Cooler Master NR200 Large Air Coolers: Featuring the U12S, U12A, Scythe Fuma 2, and the C14S!

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Machines & More

Machines & More

Күн бұрын

In this large air cooler round up for the Cooler Master NR200, I take a look at the Noctua U12S, Noctua U12A, Scythe Fuma 2, and the Noctua C14S. I review each one and present the thermals specific to the NR200 for CPU, and combined CPU/GPU tests. I’ll also discuss which CPU cooler makes sense, relative to the upcoming Nvidia 3080 GPU. Which one is the best for the NR200? Come find out!
Links for products mentioned- as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases:
CoolerMaster NR200: amzn.to/2FxMqSU
Noctua NH-U12s: amzn.to/3h8bWvQ
Scythe Fuma 2: amzn.to/3bGSLrf
Noctua NH-U12A CPU Cooler: amzn.to/34e2Gmo
Noctua NH-C14S: amzn.to/2Fhydtv
Noctua NF-A12x25mm PWM fans: amzn.to/3h9mFGt
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X CPU: amzn.to/34fUp1a
Gigabyte Aorus X570 ITX Motherboard: amzn.to/2Qe9yYB
Asus Strix X570-I ITX Motherboard: amzn.to/2E2aYDg
Timestamps for easy reference:
0:00 Intro
3:30 Additional Configs: 92mm fan/Rear Intake + Bottom Fans
7:17 Noctua NH-U12S
9:33 Noctua NH-U12A
13:20 Scythe Fuma 2
17:30 Noctua NH-C14S
20:40 Testing Methodology
21:40 Thermal Results
26:57 Use case summary: Scythe Fuma 2
28:21 Use case summary: Noctua NH-C14S
31:53 Use case summary: Noctua NH-U12A
33:30 The best large air cooler for the NR200?

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@AndreiE190
@AndreiE190 3 жыл бұрын
DA MACHINE: You are the ONLY ONE as of now who made the most comprehensive analysis of NR200, and you have helped so many of us who are still waiting on the case itself to shape up the right cooling components of our builds. I cannot thank you enough for the tremendous amount of work you’ve done with these series. I’m sure I’m expressing the voice of the entire SFF community and NR200 fans in particular. Thank you!
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Love it! I'm stoked that all of you are enjoying this, and there's still a lot more to come. This case certainly deserves the following it's building up and we absolutely need to give it the attention it deserves so that improvements, revisions, and competing products follow in the future, the future is bright for SFF!
@AndreiE190
@AndreiE190 3 жыл бұрын
Machines & More absolutely. By far this is the best case I’ve come across so far, and trust me, I’ve been watching the evolution of SFF cases for quite some time now, researching EVERY single case that was manufactured at this point. Considering it’s affordability AND hardware compatibility, this is by far one of the most accommodating cases on the market right now. No wonder it sparks so much interest! Don’t stop experimenting with it😎! Looking forward to the 3000 series videos now from u! Cheers! And again - great work.
@AndreiE190
@AndreiE190 3 жыл бұрын
Machines & More also, there should be an equivalent to Cerberus X (just slightly larger than NR200) with full ATX boards support, yet implementing a SFF so we could take full advantage of the hardware. Cerberus and it’s bigger brother X-version lack radiator support. While it’s possible, the options are limited that’s the reason why I ended up NOT going with it.
@SafMan89
@SafMan89 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore Can I ask, with the C14S is it better to have the fan on the top side of the heatsink instead of on the side panel? Also I was thinking of putting a fan next to it on the side panel but as exhaust to help get rid of GPU heat, that woudn't megatively affect CPU right?
@gctdonyre
@gctdonyre 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore Could you do a review on the 2020 update of the Dark Rock TF?
@thenowak9053
@thenowak9053 3 жыл бұрын
Man, your work on this case is simply beyond words. Thank you thousand times for all this comprehensive info.
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome!
@martinquintana2458
@martinquintana2458 3 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way, thank you very much! I just subscribed
@michaeltyc3479
@michaeltyc3479 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore thanks a lot indeed! I have migrated parts from the TU150 into the nr200 last week, since the GPU (3080 XC3 from Evga) was just getting choked with high thermals as a result. CPU temps (5800x) were great when paired with the Scythe Mugen 5 PCGH edition, which makes sense, considering the airflow of the case. I have slapped a single NF-A12 on now for intake since a second Scythe fan did not fit the case in the back for the pull/exhaust with the I Aorus x570 mobo. 2 slim Scythe Kaze flex are mounted under the GPU. 1 included top fan as exhaust. Aesthetically I would love a 2 fan exhaust in the top, so not sure how to approach that yet. Results for now: GPU temps under stress load are 7-9 (!!!) degrees lower than in the old case, with less fan noise. CPU is cool under load as well, although a bit jumpy in gaming, which is known for the model. So very happy so far. But just can't stand that there's only 1 Cpu fan on the tower, making me think it can get even cooler in there. So today, the C14s is coming in, and can't wait to see what it'll do in comparison.
@stockscrypto101
@stockscrypto101 Жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMorethe phantom spirit can fit and has better thermals and is quieter
@shaun3133
@shaun3133 3 жыл бұрын
Being an NR200 owner this channel is definitely appreciated. Excellent quality work.
@CapnSnackbeard
@CapnSnackbeard 2 жыл бұрын
Your extensive coverage of this case and FE combo is so good snd hits such a good sweet spot! Thank you!
@laggmonstret
@laggmonstret 3 жыл бұрын
He goes from clarity to clarity! Just deliver one top video after another, I can't thank You enough for Your deep tests and an open ear for suggestions. The NH-C14s does indeed look very promising in combination with a RTX 3080 FE. If I can snag a card I will definately look into including it into my build :) Keep up the good work and hope your channel will explode with subscribers, you're worth it :)
@awedmore5013
@awedmore5013 2 жыл бұрын
Sir - your channel is the premier location for all you need to know about the NR200 and cooling. Bravo.
@GuyGamer1
@GuyGamer1 Жыл бұрын
Such a high quality video. I was looking at getting a Fuma 2 for this case. Then I read about if it's better to intake or exhaust. Not only have you covered that, you've covered the optimal fan placement too for each cooler! And with DECIBEL NORMALIZED RESULTS! Thank you so much.
@fred_derf
@fred_derf 3 жыл бұрын
Great detailed analysis. The only thing I would like to have seen added would be the VRM thermals. It would appear that the C14S would have the best VRM thermals as it's the only one blowing air across the motherboard but it would be nice to have confirmation.
@kamata93
@kamata93 2 жыл бұрын
Dude… recent subscriber here but with one video you answered all of my questions!!! I will definitely be getting this case for my next PC. I have been looking for small ITX case for a while now and this seems the best case overall out there. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
@Andrew-cp7mc
@Andrew-cp7mc 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the effort trying out different configurations! Gives me some ideas when my Scythe Fuma 2 arrives; will probably replace the fans like you did with Noctua ones.
@samgoff5289
@samgoff5289 3 жыл бұрын
Good job man, another great video. Very in depth testing. Keep it up with this level of detail and your channel will definitely grow!
@faux_grey
@faux_grey 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to your videos, I've made this exact setup with NR200, C14S & deshrouded 3080, works like a dream.
@inmypaants
@inmypaants 3 жыл бұрын
29:43 dude this was a really great piece of advice for 3080 (FE) buyers! 100% people in that category concerned about air cooling should pick up the C14S!
@brownishblue
@brownishblue 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, I already got a system with U12A and was hoping it would fit in a smaller case than I got now! Thank you so much!
@suhaib1249
@suhaib1249 3 жыл бұрын
I came across this case yesterday after I realised that my Nitro+ 6800xt (on preorder) won’t fit my preferred RVZ01 which I liked due to the slim profile and great thermals for ITX. I am building a high end gaming rig which is to be tucked behind my living room really so there aren’t many options. Most of the ITX cases wouldn’t accommodate a 55mm thick card without compromising thermals on both GPU and CPU. After I learnt about this card, I have been watching your videos non-stop. Never before I have seen anyone done such a comprehensive analysis of the case. Can’t thank you enough for answering all my potential questions. Keep up the great work.
@leo1739
@leo1739 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing coverage of the compatibility of this case. Might be of interest for you to check out the Cryorig H7 Ultra! It's a particularly interesting tower cooler for the NR200 as its only 145mm high which might allow you to fit the side bracket.
@hansdoreen
@hansdoreen 3 жыл бұрын
Best video for NR200 air cooled setup on youtube! Good job, just what I wanted to see.
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@rektorpwr2006
@rektorpwr2006 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic and very informative test! Especially I love to see all custom fans configs that you did, it's making the fan & cooler choice a lot easier. Thank you!!
@michaelhollingshead972
@michaelhollingshead972 3 жыл бұрын
Love to see the same test with the Scythe Big Shuriken Rev. 3
@kickin123
@kickin123 3 жыл бұрын
super indepth review on this very popular case. Thanks and welldone!
@Ofangio
@Ofangio 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Please please do one with the glass panel!
@MrAlefantos
@MrAlefantos 3 жыл бұрын
Easily one of the best reviewers right now on youtube. I hope you can make different case + cooler combos in the future. Keep it up!
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
I am glad you are enjoying it. Different cases are coming right up! Last few weeks of the year will be very interesting here for SFF enthusiasts.
@prockrog5219
@prockrog5219 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the extremely useful info on the NR200!
@oil3
@oil3 3 жыл бұрын
Not even planning on building a new PC until mid-2021 (time to put down the ol' i5-2500k), but your videos have been super informative and fun to watch! Thanks for all the great content.
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. You know, next year is going to be absolutely fantastic for building. The 3060 to 3090 should all be out, in fact a 1600 series may even be out at that point, which will be an absolute steal if they stick to the same price point- figure it will be 2070 super like performance for $250ish. Then you'll also have Zen 3... going to be great timing.
@davidlan5698
@davidlan5698 3 жыл бұрын
Super helpful. Please make more videos like these. Screw the fancy lighting, the BS sponsorships, you're vids are on point. Great Work!!!
@chillkyle
@chillkyle Жыл бұрын
I thank you very much for pointing out the HDD bracket compatibility! It is super helpful.
@shaun3133
@shaun3133 3 жыл бұрын
Been researching this case I’m glad I found your videos, damn I appreciate your excellent presentation.
@rakatitan
@rakatitan 2 жыл бұрын
why I never found you faster man... I love air cooler, and sff. This vid is a real blessing
@wolfganglonien2093
@wolfganglonien2093 2 жыл бұрын
These were exactly the tips & recommendations I needed - thanks man! Really appreciated!
@Oh_Sully23
@Oh_Sully23 3 жыл бұрын
Quite happy with my Fuma2 cooling an R5 3600 on an MSI B450i. I have dual 120mm fans up top exhausting with 3-4mm clearance between the grill and the Fuma2. No rendering, just gaming and normal web browsing, so I run 2 120mm fans intaking under the Sapphire 5700XT to help GPU temps as the CPU isn't too stressed in the games I play. I've gradually shrunk my system down from a big mATX case to a Define NanoS and now the NR200, and ditched all my watercooling gear. Fantastic series of videos mate!
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@mikfhan
@mikfhan 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Hoping for a brief follow-up retest once AM5 Zen4 and Raptor Lake arrives :) especially with the power-hungry new GPUs also.
@backpain100
@backpain100 3 жыл бұрын
This is THE BEST and most comprehensive video on cooler compatibility and performance for the NR200. The quality is unexpectedly good. Great job.
@jpbier
@jpbier 3 жыл бұрын
Just wanna say thanks for this video! I came from a full-tower ATX setup but took your C14S recommendation to finally downsize to an NR200 and I'm really happy with it! I used front mount for the PSU though so I could mount 2x140mm fans on the C14S plus a 3.5" HDD on the PSU bracket and ended up with even better CPU deltas. For the C14S, I had the stock Noctua on the bottom and an Arctic Bionix 140 on top. My Asus B550i mobo also had a lower mounting position so I managed to put a second 120x25 top rear exhaust fan in there too, though I put a low noise adapter on it so that (theoretically) the top front exhaust would pull more of the GPU exhaust away from the C14S.
@ZuluKing91
@ZuluKing91 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting. Im looking to make the switch from full-tower ATX to the NR200 aswell. Got myself some 140mm fans from noctua so that would be great to use that. I'm interested in the looks of your case now. Might it be possible for you to sent some pictures to show how you've done that?
@Crftbt
@Crftbt 3 жыл бұрын
Would be nice to see which coolers have come out since this video that might be good options. :)
@jnavarra
@jnavarra 3 жыл бұрын
Dude thank you so much for this. It's helping me plan out my build so much.
@martinbuxton
@martinbuxton 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely great review and information on air cooling in the NR200. Its the case I am planning for my build and the information is top notch and no talk of RGB and how the case looks.
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
The next video will be about RGB options in this case and how to get the most lumens per dollar. :) Just kidding.
@morbentfel
@morbentfel 3 жыл бұрын
production quality of the videos improving a lot love it
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@macmac4050
@macmac4050 3 жыл бұрын
Love the video ... really helping me decide on my build ... thanks
@elijahj8101
@elijahj8101 3 жыл бұрын
wow, I just got a NR200 to build a Ryzen 5 5900X + 6800XT system in and your vids really helped a ton on deciding how to set it up!
@brandonvictor4160
@brandonvictor4160 3 жыл бұрын
this is a great breakdown. The NR200 has been on my radar for a while but not able to get one. This definitely gives me some ideas though, since I've ordered a QBX in the meantime for my first ITX build. Eventually I'll likely order an NR200, but until then I'll be working with this info for the QBX build.
@lennonchua4181
@lennonchua4181 3 жыл бұрын
Love your dedication and quality review... after viewing all your NR200 - i am definitely sticking to TU150 for gaming whilst NR200 for normal work. Owning both cases which dimensions does not differ much... TU150 is much easier to work with & front dedicated intake with 2 bottom intake.. yet get to keep Tglass. (D15 / Dark Pro) PSU cables & GPU length placement it easier as well.
@premnikz
@premnikz Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much now I finally can go for NHU12A
@jbplayroom
@jbplayroom 3 жыл бұрын
No words can express how thankful I am for these extensive analysis videos of the NR200. I couldn't find it anywhere else! Finding the best case scenario using tower coolers in the case is also quite appreciated, because well, the keyword in this statement is "best". As additional content, may I suggest experimenting with case fan configurations while using the stock cooler of the 3700X? I think the NR200 is more than capable enough to keep thermals in check. I could argue that many people who are checking out the NR200 are attracted mostly due to the price, hence, could be on a budget. Undoubtedly, the reach of the NR200 has gone beyond the realm of power users or performance enthusiasts because of that great price. I for one am wondering if I can just keep the NR200 stock fans (top and back), slap on the stock CPU cooler in the 3700X, then add a 120mm fan on the side bracket, blowing air from outside directly towards the CPU cooler. Will it throttle or will it be good enough? How does it compare to the best scenario? Sometimes I do wonder if there's too much content being made about the best case scenario, and not enough about the "cheap but good enough". Anyway, just my thoughts. Even if overlooked, I am genuinely appreciative of the work you have done so far and will not likely to change my decision of buying this case, as soon as I can do so locally. Seriously, thank you!
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Well, thank you for that. I like to present a few options because everybody has different priorities. For the stock cooler, I will be looking at low profile cooling options so that's something that I will do in that installment. Based on what I can glean so far about airflow in this case, just stick the fan on the top. The top fans will partially intake from the side anyway, but the big thing is you want to exhaust the hot air out quickly, especially since you are pushing it towards the mobo. I have no doubt the stock cooler works fine, the question is how loud can your ears handle under load! I see absolutely no reason that you shouldn't start with the stock cooler and just slowly upgrade as you need.
@aemudearyon8864
@aemudearyon8864 3 жыл бұрын
Really a great video comparing the best air cooler for this case on the market! I could see a lot of efforts been put on this video! But I have one question, why did you test Scythe Fuma 2 as an intake instead of exhaust? Because based on the previous video when you are comparing which is the best fans orientation, it shows that cpu cooler tower is better to act as an exhaust?
@Demonwicked
@Demonwicked 3 жыл бұрын
I accidentally had the C14s on my ATX rig before moving to nr200p and this confirmed that I dont need to change it out, thank you for a great indepth comparison!
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
You're just one step ahead of yourself! It won't be at its best with the glass panel but with the vented panel it's awesome.
@Randomlosername
@Randomlosername 3 жыл бұрын
Love it man. Just randomly stumbled across your channel while looking for some info. Def got a sub from me.
@kyleivy7679
@kyleivy7679 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video as always, amazing work. One recommendation would be to add timestamped sections for the different coolers.
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Done!
@kyleivy7679
@kyleivy7679 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore Beautiful, thank you!
@kristoffer4844
@kristoffer4844 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic insight and presentation. Really impressive! Thank you!
@zeus1117
@zeus1117 2 жыл бұрын
I want to say big thank you for this video! High quality and priceless information!
@ryancheah0517
@ryancheah0517 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome work man! Basically made the decision to build my workstation in the NR200 with a Fuma 2 after watching your videos. Thank you very much for the comprehensive analysis. I was just wondering if you could test out the Fuma 2 with 3 fans stacked together, with the PSU bracket rotated 90 degrees. And also a Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi, with the side bracket installed and a PWM 120mm fan installed on the right side of the side bracket as intake. Thanks in advance!
@marcusohrvall3710
@marcusohrvall3710 3 жыл бұрын
Really great informative video, i will be using a c14s when i buy a nr200! you sir got a new subscriber! :)
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@kaitwee
@kaitwee 3 жыл бұрын
this video is gold. you just answered most of my question for my next build
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@santiago.alcocer
@santiago.alcocer 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! So well explained. Thank you so much for this amazing amount of valuable info!
@arthurvincentsimon5651
@arthurvincentsimon5651 3 жыл бұрын
I have been looking for a good air cooler for the nr200. I can finally stop my search and get the NH-C14S!
@eddyx92x5
@eddyx92x5 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the C14S after you recommendet it.This was a good decision. I paired the cooler with a i7 1170K. The cooler keeps the CPU cool and does this job relatively quiet for the tiny NR200P. Yes you can hear the fan spinning but it is ok for the dimensions of the case. Overall I am happy with the cooler. Thank you :)
@lantern214
@lantern214 2 жыл бұрын
It's now possible to fit a D15-S now. There are a few modders out there who 3D printed spacers to create space for larger cpu towers and top hats for the nr200p to use a 240mm aio at the top. Along with atx psu brackets to fit an atx psu (max 150mm) inside.
@plusultra9142
@plusultra9142 3 жыл бұрын
thanx a LOT man I really injoyed this video and all the air cooling possibilities for nr200, if you can do the exact same thing with the Phanteks evolv shift 2 it will be amazing keep it up
@scientistD
@scientistD 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I really appreicate the thorough breakdown, and I especially appreciate that you've provided so many videos detailing every aspect of the NR200. Good job! The only thing I don't fully understand is how a fan blowing hot air back at the CPU (as with the NH-C14S) is at all effective at cooling it. If the NH-U12A running as rear-exhaust negatively impacts CPU thermals by drawing in exhaust from the GPU, how is it that the NH-C14S doesn't also negatively impact CPU thermals by pushing all the hot air from the heatsink right back at the CPU? In both cases you've got unwanted hot air being drawn into where you don't want it. Also, second question: I noticed the temp difference between the NH-C14S and NH-U12A is only about a degree. Is that a significant difference? If I'm running a 3950X at stock speeds should I even worry about such a small difference? Thank you.
@Kryzvlogs
@Kryzvlogs 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate all your nr200/200p content. Ty, ty!
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome. 🤗
@rossperu7871
@rossperu7871 3 жыл бұрын
wow, amazing video thanks so much this is gonna help me do my first small form factor case. Thanks!!!
@Rubberglass
@Rubberglass 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly the video I need! Great work!
@VeachOnTheBeach
@VeachOnTheBeach Жыл бұрын
Hey man i appreciate all of your work ypu do! We would lovw and appreciate an updraed version of this video as there are many new contenders in the market like the PA120 or AK620
@manman464
@manman464 3 жыл бұрын
Exaxtly what i was looking for , great video ✌🏼❤
@bhaaratsharma6023
@bhaaratsharma6023 3 жыл бұрын
You are a Subject Matter Expert on NR200. Awesome!
@greghicks7785
@greghicks7785 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the great videos, super helpful! Curious what motherboard you used for this one? I'm wondering if the lower placed CPU socket on the Asus or Asrock B550i boards would allow more space to install both of the 25mm top fans using the NH-C14s in the NR200? Or if not, might a rear 92mm exhaust give it some help?
@BiggC514
@BiggC514 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for trying so many different coolers! I've got a build with a Noctua U12S I'm hoping to migrate to an NR200. Does the case come with screws to secure the side panel?
@CaracuSC
@CaracuSC 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent content. Ihave been thinking about changing my InWin A1 for the NR200. This is giving me a lot of insight. Have you ever tried to build anything on the InWin A1? I would love to see you tackle thermals on that case, specially considering it is a premium mini ITX case. I wish more mini ITX cases would implement a front mesh to boost thermal potential. Thanks!
@thawesnerd
@thawesnerd 3 жыл бұрын
I was waiting soooo long for this thank you for your efforts
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thank you for sharing.
@manelmartinez5782
@manelmartinez5782 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis and explanation. Very helpful!!
@LongestYardstick
@LongestYardstick 3 жыл бұрын
Dude this video was so wonderfully comprehensive, I just wish I could see one on the 5950x xD
@Bound4Earth
@Bound4Earth 3 жыл бұрын
If you are ballsy you can try 4mm standoffs or modding the side panel if you already have a larger cooler. Just throwing out alternatives for people like me, that already had an old NH-D15 and didn't want to waste money on another cooler. I fell in love with this case and made it work. I chose to mod the side panel, but have seen a few cases of using shorter standoffs that worked just fine. The 4mm standoffs will cause some minor I/O displacement, but you should still be able to use everything just fine. Just be aware that it might cause issues with clearance for M.2 drives and you have to ensure the motherboard doesn't come close to the metal. You also have to ensure you have shorter screws that work in the shorter standoffs or use some kind of spacer. The modded side panel can actually turn out kind of cool. I provided an example below, not my mod btw. www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/igeyxv/cut_holes_in_my_nr200_to_fit_a_nhd15s/
@rafaelmarkbiares9938
@rafaelmarkbiares9938 3 жыл бұрын
If only my subscription would count as 1 million. this guy deserves more
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Worth a million to me! Thanks pal.
@grandpixel
@grandpixel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing all of this testing! It would be great if you could sum up all of your videos and just give a few recommendations. There's just too many hours of video here to watch it all. I recommend including benchmarks for 1) best low cost air cooling solution and configuration (maybe a $40-60 cooler, and 1-3 extra case fans ... whatever you can do for reasonable money while stopping before diminishing returns) and 2) best high end air cooler and case fan configuration (again while staying reasonable, 99% of people don't want to spend $100 in noctua case fans to gain 1 degree or 1 decibel), and then best aio water cooler and configuration... and I actually have ordered two NR200P cases, one black and one white... so it would be great to do the same final recommendations for these cases with glass, both horizontal and vertical gpu... I know this is a big ask but I think it will be helpful for a lot of people... and I know you have the data, lol
@jmasse713
@jmasse713 2 жыл бұрын
31:00 That's weird, I have a NR200, and C14S. I definitely was able to fit a 92mm fan as rear exhaust, along with 2 120mm slim fans up top. Great video!
@justTYPH00N
@justTYPH00N Жыл бұрын
hey man, I was wondering that too, thanks for that info, I might buy the C14S then. The reason is most likely you mainboard, where the mount is a bit lower. Can you tell me which one you have? And how are the termals?
@bambooex
@bambooex 3 жыл бұрын
wow actualy best nr200 video on youtube thanks
@jeremiahsingularo7340
@jeremiahsingularo7340 3 жыл бұрын
Tank you so much! I was looking for this information everywhere! are you going to build NR200 with new NVIDIA 3000 cards too? it would be interesting since the fans on those cards are placed on different sides.
@thawesnerd
@thawesnerd 3 жыл бұрын
ya this guys rocks!
@FeeFiveFoFum
@FeeFiveFoFum 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your dedication to this case! How do you think the taller Top Down coolers from be quiet! would compare to the C14S? Namely the Shadow Rock TF2 and the Dark Rock TF.
@DStantonDPT
@DStantonDPT 6 ай бұрын
WIth the recent explosion in popularity of this case, and the addition of the thermalright phantom spirit 120 and silver soul 135 to the market, have you considered revisiting this and updating the cooling results? Both are high performance dual tower coolers that come with fairly decent stock fans and are showing cooling potential capable of keeping a 12900k under Tmax
@Mr.DJones
@Mr.DJones 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video on NR200. Thank you. Just bought the C14S and five fans (3 x A12x25 / 2 x A12x15). This will be for a Ryzen 9 5900X & RTX 3080 Ti FE (waited all night on the 26th at Best Buy). Thank you again. Side Note: I just saw that a new CM NR200P came out called NR200P MAX. Has pre-installed AIO & Power. Not for me. :)
@DarrylUK
@DarrylUK 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve really enjoyed your series of videos on the NR200. I’d be interested to know what your recommended cooler would be when fitting the TG.
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
I think the addition of the glass panel will restrict the ability of the C14s to draw cool air from the top, though it will have the back opening to help (an intaking 92mm would hugely help but unfortunately won't fit). I would think that you would be better off with a regular tower there since the airflow pattern is more dependent on the top fans. So, Fuma 2 or U12A depending on budget/cooling needs. And I am glad you enjoyed the videos!
@Imperfectlink.
@Imperfectlink. 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore Will the TG close with the U12A? TBH I expected more from the Fuma 2 here.
@michaelkeith3842
@michaelkeith3842 3 жыл бұрын
Great content, thank you! Might also be worth putting the European links to amazon, for the products you recommend. I've purchased a few of your recommendations but have not been able to affiliate them with you. Hope it helps, keep up the great work!
@caribou6023
@caribou6023 2 жыл бұрын
Most tower type air coolers are meant to take advantage of the typical air flow in a case - from front to back. Since the flow of air in this case is bottom to top, did you consider trying to orient the air coolers that way? Would love to know which ones would fit that way and if it had any effect on your results.
@Shadineal
@Shadineal 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos on this case helped SO much. Love how in depth all these videos are. Liked and subscribed and that's something I rarely do. Side note - I am seeing peak CPU temps of 45 above ambient and GPU temps of 52 above ambient (Ryzen 5600x, 3070, Fuma 2 exhaust, top right case fan exhaust, no bottom fans) while gaming. Do you think that is within standard deviation of your results? I am thinking maybe my cable management(or lack thereof) may be playing a part but my results seem a good bit higher than yours and I'm not even running benchmark software. Thanks for any input and again love the channel!
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Are you using a 3070 FE card? With a higher powered GPU without bottom fans, the best config is going to be what you described- but you can get better results with bottom fans and rear intake (part II of air cooling thermals will drop later). Those aren't abnormal temps since I'm guessing you are running the CPU at stock or PBO, basically in that scenario it is boosting itself to that level because it can. It also depends on if those are results from 4K or 1440p, or 1080p, my guess is you're probably playing at 1440p and that puts the CPU at a moderate/high level while the GPU is fully utilized.
@jarrd
@jarrd 2 жыл бұрын
This was a very informative video, thank you
@richardhogben3776
@richardhogben3776 3 жыл бұрын
Very good and concise review, thank you
@momoster69
@momoster69 2 жыл бұрын
i want this guy to read me bed time stories. such smooth voice.
@BigBadZig1980
@BigBadZig1980 3 жыл бұрын
hi! can you make a comparison of the bequiet dark rock tf (topblower, 2x135 push/pull) vs the the noctua nh-c14s? as the price here in the eu is comparable, i am wondering if the 2 fans give the bequiet an advantage in performance in the NR200 (although it is 200g lighter).... PS: just found your channel yesterday and can't stop watching your vids! keep up the excellent work!
@ohwowitszead3374
@ohwowitszead3374 3 жыл бұрын
This was so helpful, thanks for talking me out of the U12a and putting forth a good argument for the C14s. I'm curious about the clearance above the C14s and fan compatibility at the top of the case. I know you mentioned that the 120mm fan does not fit for the C14s, but does for the U12a. There's a 15mm difference in the width of the two, so a slim fan should fit above the C14s right? I think that if it does, the C14s would be better for this case not only because the GPU temps have better potential, but the slim fan should close the gap in CPU temps, if not allow it to perform better than the U12a, no?
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome. I couldn’t fit a slim fan over either since there was pressure on the center making it not turn. However- this part is heavily motherboard dependent and my test board happens to be one of the higher CPU sockets for ITX boards. If you’re running something lower like the Asus Strix boards, you will probably be able to fit a slim fan over, however you will need to determine how to attach it. The CPU temps are already on par with the U12A if you’re using a good pull fan under the heatsink. The top fan isn’t strictly needed at that point. The idea is that there’s still plenty of open space for the hot air to be expelled, either side, or top of the heatsink. There’s a generous amount of clearance between the heatsink and the motherboard so still room for air to move around. Putting the 140mm fan on the rad panel also really helps.
@akotochris
@akotochris 3 жыл бұрын
I'm using NR200 with Aorus B550i and NH-U12S and it fits without "bulging" and with OEM top fans.
@superboy305
@superboy305 3 жыл бұрын
Not all hero's wear capes. Thank you for your help and work.
@dabdoub81
@dabdoub81 3 жыл бұрын
Thanx for the amazing job you are doing for all if us owner or who is interested in the case, I wish you added u12s gpu temperature there, thanx again.
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Actually I did test it, CPU temps came out pretty far down the pecking order and omitted it from the chart to keep things clean. The tested results for the U12S at stock were 50 degrees over ambient for the CPU, and 41 for the GPU, this was in a rear exhaust position with the 92mm fan. It did stay pretty quiet since the fan is capped at 1500rpm so overall noise was just around 48-49 dBA. With a fan swap to two NF-A12s the temps improved to 48.8, similar GPU temps, a hair lower, and noise was closer to 50 dBA at that point.
@dabdoub81
@dabdoub81 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore Amazing detailed reply, thanx alot!
@melmagallon6233
@melmagallon6233 3 жыл бұрын
You seriously have this case down to a science!
@BrooklynJPakathi
@BrooklynJPakathi 3 жыл бұрын
i've watched all your videos a few times now and i must say thank you thank you thank you. i'm going with the U12A and the 2 stock fans from the case box, how would i set the CPU cooler to exhaust as well as the top case fans? hope you could shed some light and expertise.
@johnnychiou6626
@johnnychiou6626 3 жыл бұрын
Great test! Thank you so much. Would you add the C14S test without GPU card ? I want to use the same setting by APU . Thank you.
@PyromancerRift
@PyromancerRift 3 жыл бұрын
I just got the case the other day, i've ordered a fuma 2 and i already have 2 NFA12x25 and 12X15. I will put the thick noctua fans on the fuma 2, i will try to put the slim noctuas in the top, i will see if the toolless pegs can do that. I am planing on geting a 3080 asus TUF, i think bottom fans are a no go with that kind of GPU, but maybe if i can fit the NF A12X25 under the GPU with deshrouding and get back the stock fuma 2, it may help everything in the case. Thank you for testing all the options. Really, thanks.
@ailluinthethyra6139
@ailluinthethyra6139 3 жыл бұрын
Nice tests. Now I'm wondering if a Noctua NH-U9S will fit with a 140mm intake fan on the side. I'm thinking of going with this for a Ryzen 3600 build.
@kamanokeokeo
@kamanokeokeo 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! Another subscriber here. I'm waiting for the video about RTX 3080 and Air cooling options in this case. Specially that C14S +A12 combination you're suggesting in this video. I was just reviewing this though, and I wonder why you haven't used two A14's instead? (one on the NR200 side panel and another one below the heatsink). I wonder what numbers you'd get with that combination.
@toriigatedigital
@toriigatedigital 3 жыл бұрын
dude you are killing it!
@1Dss
@1Dss 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely work!! Does the U12a fit with the aorus pro b550 and the nr200p stock fans in the top?
@duckchunmo3647
@duckchunmo3647 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!! 'd love it if you'd check to see if dual exhausting fans are viable on the top with the 'be quiet DARK ROCK TF'. Cheers!!!.
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