2020-2022 Shelby GT500 Oil Separator Effectiveness Surprise!

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ShelbyFlyer

ShelbyFlyer

Күн бұрын

I remove my supercharger lid & intercooler and get a surprise regarding the OEM oil separator effectiveness on the 2020 2021 & 2022 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500!
Time stamps:
00:00 Intro
00:20 VMP Apex Predator supercharger lid and intercooler upgrade
00:29 Removing intercooler
00:38 Oil catch can option
00:55 Which cars are affected
01:20 PDI process
01:38 How the oil separator works
02:15 The oily evidence!
03:32 Clean the intercooler
04:44 Preventative options?
05:40 Summation
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PCV positive crank case valve oil JLT J&L catch can seperator separator S550 20-22 20 21 22 Ford Performance VMP intercooler upgrade supercharger lid Predator street race 2015-2023 Mustang mods modifications

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@ShelbyFlyer
@ShelbyFlyer 9 ай бұрын
Correction: Ford did have conflicting data about what was included with the 2020 handling package cars, but working off 4 year old memories, I swapped the adjustable strut top mounts with the oil separator. The separator was in fact included with the 2020 HP cars. The adjustable strut top mounts were officially not... although some owners received some that were intended for other VINs. This was corrected in 2021 & 22... those cars received the adjustable strut top mounts.
@srhatfield
@srhatfield 9 ай бұрын
I wonder if the J&L oil separator would be superior to the Ford separator? I have had an excellent experience with the one on my 2013...
@ShelbyFlyer
@ShelbyFlyer 9 ай бұрын
@@srhatfield The people testing these cars at the track during the design/test phase found catch cans to be inadequate.
@srhatfield
@srhatfield 9 ай бұрын
@@ShelbyFlyer Ah ok. Darn.
@mustanguchiha2907
@mustanguchiha2907 6 ай бұрын
I enjoy your channel and how diligent you are. Taking notes so when I get my Shelby I can be prepared!
@ShelbyFlyer
@ShelbyFlyer 6 ай бұрын
Appreciate the kind words! 🍻
@densmustanggarage
@densmustanggarage 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the terrific video. I recently purchased a 2021 GT500. The prior owner never installed the Ford oil separator. I’ve always used JLT catch cans and love them for the simplicity and appearance. I have them on my 2009KR and my 2019 GT Coyote. Plus I like knowing how much oil is being collected but unlike you I don’t track my cars so there is no danger of them filling up. But your excellent video has convinced me to order a new JLT (now J&S) for my 2021. I’m an old school mechanic and after seeing your video I have a theory about why some oil passes through the Ford designed separator. Basically with the extra tube for drain back going back to the valve cover my belief is that as RPMs fluctuate, pressure changes occur inside the Ford unit due to the third (return) tube. By having only an inlet and outlet, the JLT can maintain the same pressure inside as the pressure or suction has no way to reverse although I am quite sure it rises and falls but never can go negative. I’m interested in your thoughts and even wonder if you were to place a tap on the line out to the intercooler for a pressure/vacuum gauge on the Ford built unit and with someone sitting in the car stepping on the throttle to vary the RPM, you might observe the condition firsthand. Thanks again for the video, Dennis
@ShelbyFlyer
@ShelbyFlyer 8 ай бұрын
My car sees extreme use. I suspect the Ford return style separator is as good as it gets and other catch can systems would have resulted in more oil getting through. The development team did extensive tests and the return style system was deemed best. Congrats on your 2021 by the way… they are bad ass cars!
@densmustanggarage
@densmustanggarage 8 ай бұрын
@@ShelbyFlyer Thank you Tim. Enjoy your track days! I look forward to more of your videos. Love the service video on your trans filters.
@marcog6470
@marcog6470 8 ай бұрын
Idk that second catch can sounds like a great idea tbh
@rayrodriguez4653
@rayrodriguez4653 9 ай бұрын
Thank you Tim. I already took Analyn for a hard run, with the new VMP intercooler. Thank you for making it happen. Would never have done it if I didn't follow your very important tips....
@ShelbyFlyer
@ShelbyFlyer 9 ай бұрын
Fantastic Ray! Congrats on the upgrade! 🤟🏎️
@ricardocorbie6803
@ricardocorbie6803 9 ай бұрын
Great job on putting this information out there!! God bless!
@ShelbyFlyer
@ShelbyFlyer 9 ай бұрын
Appreciate it! 🍻
@ricardocorbie6803
@ricardocorbie6803 9 ай бұрын
@@ShelbyFlyer you have been a leader in our community ( Shelby owners) for quite some time!! I appreciate you!! Keep up the good work ‼️
@ShelbyFlyer
@ShelbyFlyer 9 ай бұрын
@@ricardocorbie6803 Thank you sir!
@Traxl13
@Traxl13 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the informative video Tim!
@ShelbyFlyer
@ShelbyFlyer 9 ай бұрын
Thanks! 🍻
@joekoch4905
@joekoch4905 9 ай бұрын
Thanks. Very informative video as usual.
@ShelbyFlyer
@ShelbyFlyer 9 ай бұрын
Appreciate it! 🍻
@SoylentSax
@SoylentSax 9 ай бұрын
Very interesting. Thanks for the info on the secondary system. That was my knee jerk reaction and glad you checked into it.
@ShelbyFlyer
@ShelbyFlyer 9 ай бұрын
Appreciate it! 🍻
@scottmassey4330
@scottmassey4330 9 ай бұрын
Very interesting, solution, clean it up, live with it, hmmm
@maintenancethrottle
@maintenancethrottle 9 ай бұрын
Excellent vid, Tim! Good to know. Though I’m not looking forward to removing that for preventative maintenance! 😂
@Mikey550
@Mikey550 9 ай бұрын
Great Video Tim! I was about to swap out that factory one for a J&L Seperator. Think that stock one is ugly, and I'm about to swap to Carbon Fiber Coil covers, and the factory one covers the coil covers. LOL. I don't track my car like you, but do have fun on the street and drags. Think i'd be ok with a aftermarket oil seperator? Keep the great vids coming!
@ShelbyFlyer
@ShelbyFlyer 9 ай бұрын
If you go with a catch can, check it and empty it often.
@christopherchow
@christopherchow 6 ай бұрын
I'm going to make a secondary.
@ShelbyFlyer
@ShelbyFlyer 6 ай бұрын
That was my initial thoughts as well. Let me know how it goes!
@user-mh6kb6eu7s
@user-mh6kb6eu7s 9 ай бұрын
Top end lubrication, nice. Gasoline might be less offensive on that aluminum too.
@ShelbyFlyer
@ShelbyFlyer 9 ай бұрын
The problem is it reduces intercooler efficiency.
@cyclonekevin6199
@cyclonekevin6199 9 ай бұрын
Imagine how much it would accumulate, if u daily drive it. Great video.
@ShelbyFlyer
@ShelbyFlyer 9 ай бұрын
Thanks! 🍻
@rwilliams7666
@rwilliams7666 9 ай бұрын
Imagine how it would look without an oil separator 😮😮😮😮😮😮
@ShelbyFlyer
@ShelbyFlyer 9 ай бұрын
It would have been a MESS!
@rwilliams7666
@rwilliams7666 9 ай бұрын
@@ShelbyFlyer As hard as you drive your GT500, all of us road drivers should feel pretty good. Looks like Ford’s oil separator system works pretty good 👍
@ShelbyFlyer
@ShelbyFlyer 9 ай бұрын
@@rwilliams7666 Good point! 🏎️🤟
@shelbyscott3224
@shelbyscott3224 9 ай бұрын
I have the handling pack and tech pack on my 2020 and I got one.
@ShelbyFlyer
@ShelbyFlyer 9 ай бұрын
What likely happened: previous owner added it or the dealer gave it to you in error. The oil separators were sent to the dealerships separately (loose items). You likely got one intended for a different VIN. Like I said in the video… there was conflicting info and confusion in 2020 about the HP cars. In the end, Ford said those cars do not get the separator.
@shelbyscott3224
@shelbyscott3224 9 ай бұрын
@@ShelbyFlyer I’m the original owner. I guess I lucked out
@ShelbyFlyer
@ShelbyFlyer 9 ай бұрын
@@shelbyscott3224 I have a pinned comment at the top. It was the adjustable strut top mounts that the 2020 HP cars did not get.
@Mystorytilnow
@Mystorytilnow 9 ай бұрын
I don’t know if my car was an anomaly, but my car is a 2020 with the handling package and mine has a factory oil separator. It 100% was not put on after market.
@ShelbyFlyer
@ShelbyFlyer 9 ай бұрын
There was conflicting/confusing info put out by Ford on what was and wasn’t included with the 2020 HP cars. It was cleared up for 2021.
@perfektg
@perfektg 7 ай бұрын
Hello Tim, where did you get the information as to which cars officially came with the oil catch can? Was that on a document from Ford?
@ShelbyFlyer
@ShelbyFlyer 7 ай бұрын
It is from the “loose items” decal that came on the outside of the car when new. I misspoke in the video. I was thinking the adjustable strut top mounts, which Ford had conflicting info on. The oil separator came with the CFTP and handling package cars.
@perfektg
@perfektg 7 ай бұрын
@@ShelbyFlyer Thank you for that info. I'm dealing with a dealer who claims the Catch Can didn't come with "some" CFTP cars, which isn't true. I don't understand why some people/dealers default to screw the customer rather than make the customer whole for what we paid for.
@ShelbyFlyer
@ShelbyFlyer 7 ай бұрын
@@perfektg Happy to help. Good luck in your battle!
@FalloutXmaster
@FalloutXmaster 9 ай бұрын
So I have a 2020 gt500 handling pkg and mine did come with the oil separator. I have had the car since new of March 2020
@ShelbyFlyer
@ShelbyFlyer 9 ай бұрын
There was confusion and mixups with the 2020 HP cars. You likely got a separator that was for another car. These items were sent to the dealership separately (loose items).
@FalloutXmaster
@FalloutXmaster 9 ай бұрын
@@ShelbyFlyer lucky me haha
@w00tec
@w00tec 9 ай бұрын
So the fact that we still have to live with it will this be an issue down the line for the longevity of the cars ?
@ShelbyFlyer
@ShelbyFlyer 9 ай бұрын
My car sees extreme driving at the track. Cars not pushed so hard will likely have little to no oil escaping the separator.
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