i have never ever needed 100 for anything ever xD so i dont know how painful it is my dog will listen before getting even HALF that

@@nightskylerj I have a german sheppard unfixed female. She use to respond to to 5 out of 100 on recall instantly. One change in her ruiteen and no number helps and iv tested the device. She learned how to fight it. I even noticed she gets more energy and feeds off of it if you dont just stop an find new approach. Not sure if the collar is low quality but i have tested and it still hurts on 5 out of 100 its petainer brand

@@johndon2010 Ahh my male is also intact I usually have him on leash but when I don’t he wears this I’m not sure of your situation because I’ve never had a female dog but my males are usually pretty good at listening

Right?! He’s amazing

Right most dogs only need 5-30 this man is a monster for taking the max

why?

For sure, but apparently it really depends on a dog how much they can feel. And some PEOPLE can't even feel lower than 10 at all. doesnt mean it's the same for a dog tho. So if your dog reacts to lower than 10, then it means they can feel it and it's probably good to start there.

i have actually tried to educate someone on it and asked wouldnt you like to feel it and they kept saying no even when i used it on myself they dont want to learn they just object to it

@@nightskylerj this may be a stupid question or comparison, cause I've never felt an ecolar, but I have used one of those crappy slimming belts once (that uses electric pulses to contract your muscles) LOL. It felt a bit tingly on low levels and would really contract the muscle at higher levels for a couple seconds and then let go. Is it anything similar to that?

@@viqala9159 no; it is a nonsense comparison

I live in Austria, I also did it without dog trainers, first I did it with my GSD, then I did it with my Malinois (still being trained). Not only that, I used e-collar and prong collar, both illegal in my country. Yet, I still opted to use them. Why? It is the best way to train. A dog requires correction, not bribing. All I did was I used videos on the internet and various articles. There are enough to find. Most of them agree with each other. It is still a learning process, not every dog reacts at the same speed to it. I was able to teach my GSD the recall without an e-collar, nothing special. But later I used one for safety purposes and I wanted to take training further. I wanted to walk in the city off-leash without being concerned. Luckily, no one ever mentioned anything about it. I never intended to train any dog in order for him to become a prize-winning champion. I just want them to behave near me and not near me. If I were to solve all the problems I had with my dogs, such as leash-pulling on a 50kg GSD, the same problem for a Malinois puppy which I received fairly late from a close friend in a positive-only manner, I probably would have never gotten rid of the problems.

@@thouartstrong9507 yes! I also want a well behaved companion, not a brat of dog. I don’t consider making him a competition champion, he just loves to learn so we are having fun with it. Also unpopular opinion: I think positive only works only with stupid dogs, that can’t think by themselves. Maybe I’m mistaken, but dogs represent a mental ability of a 3 year old child. That’s the age when children learn to lie. So dogs also can be like this.. why not eat the cookie and have the cookie? Why not go chase the squirrel and then get a treat, bc it came back after all, right? Both highly rewarding. Not treating the dog in this situation would end up with the dog not coming back at all. I’m not saying positive only is bad. It’s great, it should take the majority of our training. It depends on the situation and the dog. I am aware that sometimes going with positive will work better than balanced. Like resource guarding, or some real severe fear aggression, at least until the point the dog can understand correction. I had to snap my leash pretty harsh, in my opinion, for my puppy to get the idea that lunging at other dogs is not a go to behaviour whenever he is not sure what to do. he acted like a wild monkey, he wanted to play and at the same time he was scared and had no idea what to do. Some dogs ignored him, some accepted his play invitation and some snapped at him without warning. That just confused him more. He had no idea how to behave. He thought acting like a squirrel on caffeine was the thing to do. He had firmly established trigger threshold, that months of positive only never made it better. The shock from the snap threw him out of that closed circle and allowed me to point him in the right direction. Now I basically work with positive on his reactivity. Whenever he gets a bit too emotional I can lead him away with a few gentle tugs, like half halting a horse (I know positive folks would flip, “never ever tug your leash, it will destroy relationship with your dog, you will lose it’s trust”). Now we can pass by a dog on a forest track with him only stretching his nose out with curiosity. Once we pass he loses interest. He gets agitated with other dogs reacting to him as well, but it’s only natural. Sure it’s still a lot of work. But surely not years of training, few months maybe - take the note - I’m a novice dog handler. I’m considering getting an e-collar. Basically, for recall off leash. I think for a 9 month old pup his recall is almost perfect. But he is not 100% sure when there is game involved. It’s a hunting dog and there is a lot of wild animals around here. He is good with game at about 40 meter distance. Or game he is expecting and is given strict instruction to stay close to me. Anything that jumps out unexpectedly can trigger him to chase. I can’t blame him for it, it’s instincts. I just need something physical to reach him. Working on a long line, that most of the people here take as the gold solution, doesn’t work. He ain’t stupid, he knows he is restrained even on a 30-40 meter long leash. Then the chase is not a thing and his recall is 100% perfect. And it just tangles and messes up and gives him unnecessary corrections for no reason. I got him a gps for now for my own comfort. Can’t decide if e-collar in my inexperienced hands is a good idea and if my pup will react nicely to it. And there is that people around here take the need of using aversives as a failure in training. Especially with a breed known as easy to train. So somehow I still can’t shake off the feeling of shame 😅 so for now I’m learning as much as I can and listening to the voices of both camps 😊

@@TheTeenese Regarding that positive-only works with some dogs, I agree. A smaller dog bred to sit in your lap and look cute will without a doubt react differently to training than a dog bred for guarding sheep and fighting off wolves, as an example. And dog reactivity on the leash is in my opinion purely a thing of experience. What I had to learn quickly was that every situation is a part of the learning process. At first, I started training in a relatively open space, somewhere out in nature. There were a few dogs so that helped with making sure it is focused on me. Because if no one is there, of course, the dog will be focused on you. The more distractions my dog had to face, the more I realized it had to learn. So I had to get over my fear of not taking out my dog to places I didn't want to be simply because I knew it would be a difficult situation. So I exposed my dog more and more to difficult situations. That's how you deal with them and that's what worked for me. Of course, I used a prong collar and e-collar. I think this channel talks about it as well, it is called proofing your dogs. Making sure they can talk the talk and walk the walk, regardless of distractions. I think an e-collar could work for you. I usually used a long leash for that, about 5 to 10 meters at first. After the dog knew the basic command of "hier" which is "here" in German, I advanced to the next stages. I kind of scheduled each walk. I had a time where I made the dog strictly walk by my side, commonly known as heel. And for toilet time, I just used the long leash and gave the dog some freedom. Every once in a while I would recall the dog to practice. Eventually, I went to the e-collar and long leash, as seen in the video. Then I would let my dog off the leash, it was a bit of practice at first, but with the e-collar, it was as easy as it could be. It is also not always about the right tools, sometimes the relationship needs to be built yet. I don't know about your status of training but what I lacked at first was a better relationship. It was just to connect with the dog better. The dog needs to realize that you are the one - everything the dog gets is from you. Food, attention, treats, toys. Whatever it may be. But the dog has to make the world you, not around you. This took me quite a while but as I said, I practiced with the long leash until I had that relationship. Anyways, if you decide to get one for your dog, which I recommend simply out of safety purposes, make sure it is either e-Collar technologies or Dogtra. The rest is not approved by the majority of dog trainers. It is usually either one of these brands. Also, don't be ashamed to use devices for training. I have to admit, I was also ashamed at first. Then, when my dog behaved better than anyone else's dog, everyone watched it with big eyes. It is just a matter of getting used to it. Dog training is not some complex topic, it just takes a lot of consistency and time. Some days it will work better, some worse. I had to sacrifice a lot of my nerves but I built up the patience for it eventually.

@@thouartstrong9507 I know what You are talking about. I go to places and expose my pup to things. Hiding was never a thing to do for me. I knew I wanted my dog to be reliable off leash as I want my dog to be a stable and hack rides companion. It’s really important to me. And I would never sentence my dog to a life on a piece of string. He is just born to run. I don’t really correct him when he does something I don’t want to when I know the situation was just way too much to handle for him and he is out of his mind. Smashing my dog in a state like this is just wrong and won’t achieve anything by it. I try to slow down a little, not to overdo with the pressure. I can also see that there is a better connection between us, he looks at me for support and guidance more often. I’m slowly getting better at reading my pup. So now I know when he can benefit from a correction or praise and when to just get away and start over. I other words we are learning each other. We have structured walks, there is time when I have him at heel, time when he is free to explore when he is on a leash and time for him off leash, with simple commands like here, sit, down, stay, back up, trying some hunting dog basics, or some fun commands like weaving between my legs during the walk. There is time for serious work, time for play, and time for my pup to explore by himself. As for recall, my dogs knows “tu” or 2 short whistle signals as “here”. At both cues he runs to me at top speed. The only time he doesn’t respond is when he is in a really focused chase mode after a deer when he gives in to the instincts, which doesn’t really happen often. Usually he looks at me with a “what now?” look before he goes 😂 “leave it” stops him then I am well aware I would have to start over with a leash, all that conditioning stuff. I think I want to practice conditioning just in my backyard on a leash at least a month or two just to be sure he responds well, before I go any further. If it comes to it I think I will go with e-Collar technologies. Dogtra’s transmitter looks easier to use, but I’m not sure if it has the stimulation level locking feature as educators have. I don’t want to flip the switch accidentally when stuffing the transmitter in my pocket and then giving my dog way too strong stimulation if I forget to check the levels. Thank you for your response and words of encouragement 😊

@@TheTeenese Dogtra is also good, I just went with e-Collar technologies because it is the most used one and it is easier to follow the majority of advice that way. Sounds like you are on the right way! Wish you all the best.

The doggos r like: "The first rule of Fight Club: you don't talk about Fight Club." 😎

@@thejindoman7471 you don’t BARK about the fight club 🤣

Hahaha 👍

Excellent video.

@Jim D. and sometimes I just use the vibrate function and that is all I need.

Some of the cheap brands malfunction alot and can cause burns (was just doing research and alot the cheap ones had horrific reviews of whole patches of hair and skin burned off)but the good quality brands had great reviews so it's definitely a case of you get what you pay for. Research pays! Haha great vid!

@Me yes indeed. I think it’s the “birds of a feather” thing. Lol

I don't agree with your logic. I would not base my training standards for my dogs on the two options that you have defined. I aim for the highest standards for control, balance, social etiquette, etc so that my dogs can be off leash with a neutral attitude around people and dogs; only greeting other people and dogs at my discretion. I would never go to a dog park -- not because my dogs are not trained to be controlled and balanced in that environment; they are! But because I have no control over the training and behaviors of the other dogs and people there that are not known to me. That's a risk that you cannot control other than choosing not to go there. Forget about dog parks and do some research to find good trainers in your area who can provide you and your dogs access to controlled and safely supervised interactions with their controlled, balanced and well trained dogs. If your dogs have social reactivity issues, then you will be in the right place for safe and competent help. You can't reliably get that at a dog park.

@@TPinesGold Yeah, I've learned a lot since nine months ago, haha. I know that dog parks are no good, and my dogs are offlead now. :]

With Dogtra collars, the transmitter frequency cannot be changed from the factory setting. But any compatible receiver can be easily re-set by the user to be paired with the transmitter. No limit to the number of receivers that could be paired with a given transmitter. I would guess same for brand shown here. I have never used two rx's on the same strap, but I keep a spare strap & rx set to the same tx because the rx tends to become discharged before the tx. If I goof on keeping unit charged, no big deal to switch to spare rx without interrupting my session.

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@@shieldk9 Thank you!!

and guarantee these social justice warriors don't even own dogs

The same force-free SJW's are dead quiet when a dog with no training or positive-only runs out the door and gets hit by a car.

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@@shieldk9 you are one of my favorite trainers.. your dogs are incredible & the way you explain things are clear & concise. I wish I lived closer to you unfortunately I live in CT 😂

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