Shifter: Notes on Photography 6

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DANIEL MILNOR

DANIEL MILNOR

3 жыл бұрын

The only thing that matters is the end result. The negatives. The take. As they say, you can't hide from your contact sheets. Unless you bury them, maybe. The "Good Old Days," weren't nearly as good as we want them to be but there were aspects of the lifestyle I miss. This image, and the rest of this series, are still palatable to me for one reason. I look back on them with regard to the timeframe and the lifestyle I was able to live while making these images. No computer, flip phone, and no internet presence influencing those between moments. And nothing shared in real-time. It was bliss and we didn't even know it.
This is works for me because I think it represents my Leica years and the style I lived with during that time. Short to medium lenses. Film. And just keep going into the field. Same places, same story. Build, build, build. Move on.

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@IanKnight40
@IanKnight40 3 жыл бұрын
Absolute Genius ...brilliant. Your Videos are addictive Daniel. Cheers Ian, Leicester. UK.
@ronhipwell5543
@ronhipwell5543 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent Dan, thank you for sharing!
@maciejkaron-dslr7738
@maciejkaron-dslr7738 3 жыл бұрын
I love this series, I can't wait for another. Really educating, showing what a good interesting photo should look like.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
I'm working on the next one now. It's a good image, at least I think so.
@stephencharlton2024
@stephencharlton2024 3 жыл бұрын
just bloody excellent, thank you
@mjgreeneaudio
@mjgreeneaudio 3 жыл бұрын
Always inspiring and informative. Thank you for taking the time to put these together. They make my week when they hit!
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
Cool. Glad you are finding something good.
@gyurikovits
@gyurikovits 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love your self-deprecating humour.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
Its what gets me through the day...
@LucaDeravignone
@LucaDeravignone 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, maybe the best of the 'notes' series until now for me. I can really relate with the part about the 'feeling' where all starts to match while shooting. Big hugs from Italy, hopefully you'll return here someday!
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
Luca! Yes, I'll be back. Aiming for Albania in September, to teach, so I'll be close but don't think I'll quite make it to Italian soil..
@LucaDeravignone
@LucaDeravignone 3 жыл бұрын
@@DANIELMILNOR505 I'm optimistic for next time so :) If you will share some info about your workshop (?) in Albania I cannot exclude to attend. Let's see time (and pandemic) constraints: for sure it would be great.
@tinebohinc5182
@tinebohinc5182 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best photography series! Please dont stop!
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
I've got a few more coming...
@robmcd
@robmcd 3 жыл бұрын
Loved this so much I watched this twice.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
The sign of something good maybe..thanks for that.
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic image.
@ChristineWilsonPhotography
@ChristineWilsonPhotography 3 жыл бұрын
Another gold nuggett
@badgerag
@badgerag 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing Dan. Those bookcase angles are right on. The story of your photo is fascinating, especially the fringe elements and then that feeling that something special will happen. Paying attention to spacing is going to be my goal, yeah that and getting my ass out to shoot.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
Spacing....man. So critical I think and yet I've never really seen ANYTHING about this.
@EightTwoFourWeddingStudios
@EightTwoFourWeddingStudios 3 жыл бұрын
Dan. I love your films. Please do not stop posting more content like this. I absolutely love it
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
No plans to stop as of today at 10:48AM. Tomorrow, never know....
@bowenisland100
@bowenisland100 5 ай бұрын
Good hearing your discussion of process: I learned a few things! Nice image! A few years ago I would have cropped out the guy close to the left edge, but more recently feeling it adds tension. I think looking at Egglesten shifted (!) my thinking. Love the "show and tell" opening....makes me feel like I dropped in for a visit. Thank you!
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 5 ай бұрын
I come from the "no crop" newspaper world, so it's engrained to try and shoot "right" in the field. I want to do a lot more of these films. They are some of the only things that matter.
@ImperiousImages
@ImperiousImages 3 жыл бұрын
Great insight.
@vaquerosupreme3189
@vaquerosupreme3189 3 жыл бұрын
"Shooting the fringes": Bill Allard also loved doing this type of photography.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
I had a "'moment" with him once at an event where my work was being shown. A good moment. He's a legend.
@vaquerosupreme3189
@vaquerosupreme3189 3 жыл бұрын
@@DANIELMILNOR505 Awesome! I'm a fan as well. I have 3 of his books.
@leonkrug4841
@leonkrug4841 3 жыл бұрын
The more I watch your videos, the more I realize that almost every other photographer on youtube knows absolutely nothing about photography
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
Well, I'm not sure about that but thank you for the compliment. I think a lot of people on KZfaq are NEW to photography. And if your primary goal is to be a KZfaqr you kinda have to throw out anything that doesn't get subs. It would be an exhausting situation to be in whether you are selling photography, cycling, overlanding, fishing, or anything else.
@GQGlasgow
@GQGlasgow 3 жыл бұрын
You may be right but we may never know - it seems most of photo KZfaq wants to talk about gear, not photography.
@CristianGeelen
@CristianGeelen 3 жыл бұрын
That bookshelf looks actually pretty dope.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I still have it and can't believe they let is near power tools.
@markkinsman5013
@markkinsman5013 3 жыл бұрын
Milnor, you’re stylin in that Peaky Blinders look. Great episode as always.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
Peaky FUC^%$# Blinders. Love that show. I did it myself!
@markkinsman5013
@markkinsman5013 3 жыл бұрын
@@DANIELMILNOR505 👍🏻
@bronzepodcast
@bronzepodcast 3 жыл бұрын
This kind of episode is valuable. Thanks! Ever considered episodes where you analyze subscriber submissions? Could be fun and allow people to learn.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
I have. And I've done a few. But, my schedule is so packed it feels just outside my capability at the moment.
@CourtLFC
@CourtLFC 3 жыл бұрын
You're the man, Dan. Thanks for providing the entertainment, insight and knowledge. Look forward to the next one! (Your efforts to re-record are seriously appreciated.)
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
I'll get it right, someday.
@damlandberg
@damlandberg 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, I did!! (Enjoy it, that is) - as always! I am just a happy amateur, but just bought a second M6 body, perfect for my (only) two M-mount lenses, 35 and 50. Don’t need more than that!
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
That should last for the rest of your life....congrats.
@emithen
@emithen 9 ай бұрын
New to the channel. I love it!
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 9 ай бұрын
Welcome. Glad you are here. Don't be shy.
@jeffedvalds1013
@jeffedvalds1013 3 жыл бұрын
Alright Milnor. I'm getting a bead on your humor. "At least I have that going for me."
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
Carl Spackler!
@darrenlepper1473
@darrenlepper1473 3 жыл бұрын
This was great. It made an impact on me. Great moment. Thank you Dan.
@benswanepoel
@benswanepoel 3 жыл бұрын
You had me at Louis L'Amour - During my youth he's books were placed on my shelf alongside Alister Maclean, Hammond Innes and slightly above James Hadley chase. Thanks for the refreshing content.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, I've got new names now. Wow. Thank you.
@newellharry176
@newellharry176 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Be cool to see what came before and after
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
Magic.....a great place and time.
@neilgenower9950
@neilgenower9950 3 жыл бұрын
Your photograph is a good example of when all the elements come together. Composition/lens/film stock/dev mode/black and white/weather. One of my most admired photographers is Don McCullin, his work follows a similar pattern. It is also a testament to the use of black and white, how it renders the scene without extraneous details.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
Unreasonable Behavior. Great autobiography. And he was one of my favs too. Quite a dude. I used to live for finding ways of putting myself in these situations. I miss it.
@digipak07
@digipak07 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Pakistan. 🇵🇰 . Big fan.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
Pakistan is HIGH on my list my friend. I have always wanted to go. Someday......
@lagazettedesfrancais8155
@lagazettedesfrancais8155 3 жыл бұрын
Perfectly right on spacing,... on Louis L'Amour,... and in your conclusion. Cheer up !
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
Good guy, bad guy and gold!
@wallywo7392
@wallywo7392 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this, thanks for sharing, nice to consider the merits of a picture rather just giving it a like or love heart. Have a great weekend.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
When you consider that 80% of traffic on some networks are bots....ya. Means more.
@TheGazmondo
@TheGazmondo 3 жыл бұрын
It’s most interesting what you said about your feelings, as the two situations that I too feel this is shooting pictures, and as a musician and playing music. So pleased to hear you talk about this, as I’ve said to so many people, when things are working there’s a powerful bodily sensation and excitement. If it’s not going to excite or move you at the time, then it’s not going to move or touch anyone else. Like it a lot !
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
I think that is perhaps why not many folks speak about this. It's personal and difficult to share. And not something you can sell. I would also agree with your music connection.
@martinlawrence8427
@martinlawrence8427 3 жыл бұрын
Great analysis of an epic image Dan. Thanks!
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
Gracias!
@stephencharlton2024
@stephencharlton2024 3 жыл бұрын
For me it might be (Fuji) 50mm... but I will give some time to the 35mm F2 (50mm equivalent ).... anyway ..... thank you
@paulhilbink3844
@paulhilbink3844 3 жыл бұрын
wondering if you've had the chance to read any of cal newport's books. imho, his philosophy of 'deep work' vs. 'shallow work' parallels your philosophy of 'content' vs. 'photography', and the dangers of social media, distractions, and the growing inability to concentrate and focus for long periods of time... great video, as always!
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
No but I think someone else recommended him. Hmmm, need to research this.
@scc6210
@scc6210 3 жыл бұрын
inspiring as always.
@JayGrapherTh
@JayGrapherTh 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for sharing this story
@Ricardo-SW
@Ricardo-SW 3 жыл бұрын
Reminded me a bit of when I first "discovered" you via your work on similar procession(s) in New Mexico. I think it was on a site of yours, Smog Ranch, to which I somehow was linked via a Leica=oriented website. Nice work all around!
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
That might have been a film made about me in 2007 ish. I was shooting Leica then and did cover a procession here in New Mexico. Thanks for the note.
@davidabarak
@davidabarak 3 жыл бұрын
Do you sometimes crop your images, and if you do is this one full-frame? The reason I ask is that you mentioned the center of interest in the picture is the left half, bottom 80% or so. I did finger-cropping to see how it would have looked cropped tighter and it worked like that too, at least based on the small view I had. So if you do crop from time to time, what in the periphery made you decide to stay wider than that central area of interest? If you don't crop then the question is moot of course. Either way, it really is a nice image and you caught everything at just the right moment. (Cartier-Bresson approves.)
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
Great question. This is somewhat total nonsense but I rarely, rarely, rarely ever cropped. I was taught not to crop and to print full rebate so that the viewer knew there was no cropping. This makes things harder, as you know, and I've set aside images I could have printed, but I still work this way 99% of the time.
@davidabarak
@davidabarak 3 жыл бұрын
@@DANIELMILNOR505 I tend to crop as needed, but keeping images full frame isn't necessarily nonsense. It's a constraint imposed on the process and constraints - for me at least - actually help with the creative process. Unlimited possibilities can lead to mental vapor lock. I think composing for a fixed frame size slows down the process - a good thing in documentary work.
@PatrickDodds1
@PatrickDodds1 3 жыл бұрын
Great intro!
@StuartIsett
@StuartIsett 3 жыл бұрын
I remember you hitting Sicily after Perpignan! Good way to wash off the pretense of a week at Visa.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
Same for N. Africa. Sit in the sand and cry away the layer of "concerned photographer." It never quite worked until the free drinks on international flights on the way home.
@jasonblake5576
@jasonblake5576 3 жыл бұрын
Love your content! Okay I rarely read but you got me on Louis L’amour!! What should I read, that’s a book series in your video?
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
I post all my reads on my site. Shifter.media. I'm all over the place but you might find something interesting.
@jasonblake5576
@jasonblake5576 3 жыл бұрын
@@DANIELMILNOR505 thank you!!
@joeltunnah
@joeltunnah 3 жыл бұрын
I like that there’s some space and “air” in the image. “Get closer” is terrible general advice.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
Technically, this is almost a street image....
@stinkystealthysloth
@stinkystealthysloth 3 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video talking about shots you missed/were too scared to take.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
Sure.
@GS-vb3zn
@GS-vb3zn 3 жыл бұрын
I made that same fucking shelf… yours looks better than mine, kudos.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
And we both have our fingers! Win!
@rodrigoverissimo4169
@rodrigoverissimo4169 3 жыл бұрын
I highly recommend reading "Education of a Wandering Man" by Louis L'Amour. It's a fantastic read!
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh, will add that to list. My father got me started, and my cousin Tom.
@micwarmington1
@micwarmington1 3 жыл бұрын
you said nobody seems to be doing this kind of work any more - this might be a reason for you to do a riff on what magnum photographers get up to these days...eg have you seen any of the work they did during the pandemic ? some of it is extraordinary / powerful stuff
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure there are people working and doing great work. My life is headed in new directions now so I rarely look at what is happening in the industry. I have seen some incredible work done by non-professionals who were working on the front lines.
@sprucemoose3000
@sprucemoose3000 3 жыл бұрын
Can we see the contact print to this roll ?
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
That is a good question. I'm not sure I have a proof. It might have been during the time I wasn't proofing. Just editing off negs. I'll check.
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 3 жыл бұрын
I’m very curious how you processed tmax3200 as it’s a film I never liked the results from when I darkroom printed it.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
I used so many different techniques over the years it would be difficult to narrow it down. And each with its own small tweaks. Hard to go wrong in Xtol. Keep it down the middle of the road until you better learn the film. Scanned it prints beautifully. Darkroom is a real challenge.
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 3 жыл бұрын
@@DANIELMILNOR505 I’ll keep trying when I want to experiment. I mostly use Tri x and Rodinal and get a very dense negative for the enlarger.
@maurorau
@maurorau 3 жыл бұрын
I think we’ve given up a lot of our freedom...
@raymondtan2415
@raymondtan2415 3 жыл бұрын
Haven't we already heard a talk about this image?
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe. I wasn't in my KZfaq series but might have been somewhere else.
@raymondtan2415
@raymondtan2415 3 жыл бұрын
@@DANIELMILNOR505 Still worth a second watch. BTW, I'm looking forward to more of your photo critiques with Marc Silber at AVP
@joeeley5354
@joeeley5354 3 жыл бұрын
unrelated to you: Whats with everyone saying "to be honest"? please be honest! Do people assume they are liars or do they lie most of the time. I don't get it. I appreciate the video.
@robmcd
@robmcd 3 жыл бұрын
I think it’s affirmation. It’s like “quality used cars” Why do we need the adjective?
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's just habit of vernacular. That is also a phrase that sets my high alert monitor but most of the time people are just doing it out of habit.
@joeeley5354
@joeeley5354 3 жыл бұрын
@@DANIELMILNOR505 Seems about right. One more question; quick thoughts on the Kona rove DL if/when you have time.
@robmcd
@robmcd 3 жыл бұрын
Digital umbilical. Isn’t that the truth! Since I removed Instagram and severing that umbilical, because after taking a great photo you feel compelled to share it. I couldn’t give a stuff if people like my work. I don’t even like my work.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's nice to not have that gene. Same applies for all my projects and collaborations. So many haters out there you just have to do what feels right and keep leaning forward.
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