SHIITAKE LOGS FOR BEGINNERS, Tips and Tricks for Shiitake Success

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Renegade Mushrooms

Renegade Mushrooms

Күн бұрын

Step by step demonstration of how to inoculate Shiitake mushroom on hardwood logs using the "drill & fill" method. This video is geared towards beginners, but is full of useful tips for success, whether your goal is to have 10 logs, or 1,000. The name of the game is keep those logs hydrated at all times. 35% moisture content is recommended. Shiitake mycelium can't survive below 23%, so don't forget to water!
WR46 strain sawdust spawn:
www.fieldforest.net/category/...
Field & Forest Products tree/mushroom species compatibility chart:
www.fieldforest.net/category/...
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@friendlyfiend89
@friendlyfiend89 3 ай бұрын
Props to the fine lady who told you to put your glasses on.
@davidvincent9888
@davidvincent9888 Жыл бұрын
Just got into growing mushrooms. I really want to do this for a living I did not realize how much I was going to like this. Thank you for all of the great advice and sharing all the videos. I learned a lot and hopefully I'll be able to do what I love in the future at some point.
@RenegadeMushrooms
@RenegadeMushrooms Жыл бұрын
There's definitely a huge demand for your product, so I'm sure you'll get there. Best of luck to you 👍
@esrcornwell
@esrcornwell Жыл бұрын
Great explanation!
@Gunjaroo
@Gunjaroo Жыл бұрын
Amazing work. Appreciate this❤🙏
@Gunjaroo
@Gunjaroo Жыл бұрын
Beautiful doggo
@RenegadeMushrooms
@RenegadeMushrooms Жыл бұрын
He's a good helper 😁
@xiongfa2152
@xiongfa2152 2 ай бұрын
I'm just starting a small commercial operation. Put in a 170sf bed of Wine Caps, 20 logs of WR46, 2-3 logs each of Halo and Jupiter strains of Shiitake and 4 logs of Chestnut. All the spawn from F&FP. I'm curious if you (or anyone else here) has tried ANY mushroom on Hickory. I have more Hickory than Oak or Maple on my property, 2nd only to Sweet Gum. I've asked F&FP and they said they didn't think Hickory was a good host for Shiitake. But, I'm just wondering if anyone has tried using it for anything. TIA. I've watched a lot of F&FP's vids and some others. Your vids are really good and have a different approach. Subscribed and Thumbs Up!
@RenegadeMushrooms
@RenegadeMushrooms 2 ай бұрын
I have never tried hickory personally, but if all else fails, you could grow Turkey Tail mushroom on it. There is a demand online for dried USA grown Turkey Tail in the medicinal/herbal world. If you are looking to sell Winecaps, make sure you pick them very early. They are very productive but have a tendency to get full of fungus fly larvae pretty quick.
@ryanmorris9141
@ryanmorris9141 Жыл бұрын
I have that bit for angle grinder it makes life so much easier when doing mushroom logs
@RenegadeMushrooms
@RenegadeMushrooms Жыл бұрын
It's amazing how fast it is, a must have IMO.
@mse1333
@mse1333 Жыл бұрын
Hey Renegade, Mark from Charlotte, I did this yrs ago with great results..got about 3 yrs of growth. But sure is a pain to fruit. I would put a tarp in the bed of my truck, fill with water and soak the logs a couple times a yr and stacked in the shade. Had good results but the slugs and bugs were a problem. You are a great teacher!
@RenegadeMushrooms
@RenegadeMushrooms Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😁 I like to put mine in the garage after I soak, that keeps the bugs off of them.
@mse1333
@mse1333 Жыл бұрын
@@RenegadeMushrooms I thought about doing that but I was under the impression that I needed to continue hosing them down till they pinned. So I guess a good soak is all they need? Then allow them to sit in the garage till they fruit?
@RenegadeMushrooms
@RenegadeMushrooms Жыл бұрын
@@mse1333 Yeah I do a 24 hour soak in a barrel of cold water, then on to a tarp in the garage. All you may have to do is mist them with a portable spray mister once they're in the garage to keep them happy. Works great and keeps the bugs off.
@michaelcarey9359
@michaelcarey9359 6 ай бұрын
Never grew shiitake, although I've researched cultivating it quite a bit. I've read that after cutting the logs, they should sit for a few months to let some kind of natural antifungal substances break down or diminish.
@RenegadeMushrooms
@RenegadeMushrooms 6 ай бұрын
That's only if you cut the trees during the active growing season, which should be avoided if at all possible. During the growing season, trees secrete antifungal enzymes to protect themselves from infection so you need to give them time for those enzymes to dissipate. The best way is to cut them during the dormant season, basically between leaf drop in the fall and bud swell in the spring. If you do that you can inoculate immediately or let them rest under the snow until temps are conducive for inoculation (spring). This depends on your climate of course. Winter cut logs will also have a higher sugar content so your yields will be better and your bark will stay attached longer.
@stefansochaczewski-yg3tz
@stefansochaczewski-yg3tz Жыл бұрын
Hey bro, have you ever inoculated birch? I have a bunch of 6-10 inch diameter river birch logs. What mushroom species would you suggest and what method. Totems or drilling? Thank you
@RenegadeMushrooms
@RenegadeMushrooms Жыл бұрын
You could probably do either with logs that size. Here's a link to the Field & Forest tree suitability chart, it's a great resource: www.fieldforest.net/category/growing-mushrooms-on-logs
@johnnyseko
@johnnyseko Жыл бұрын
Awesome. I have spawn, dowels and all I need now are the logs. I wonder if a tree service company would sell oak logs like that?
@RenegadeMushrooms
@RenegadeMushrooms Жыл бұрын
Possibly, worth a try. Oak, Sugar Maple, and Beech all work great for Shiitake.
@nobeardthepirate9172
@nobeardthepirate9172 11 ай бұрын
Small business owned tree services are more than willing to sell or give you logs and/or wood chips. You might have to cut the logs to size after, but if you notice a company cutting down an oak tree and offer to take the logs or cuttings; you're likely to get it for free.
@badumtss5773
@badumtss5773 3 ай бұрын
Good day. Is there any update video for this one?
@RenegadeMushrooms
@RenegadeMushrooms 3 ай бұрын
As soon as it warms up I'm planning on making a video showing how to force fruit/soak the logs. I'll also cover grow out strategies and harvesting.
@jimbobsquarepants6052
@jimbobsquarepants6052 Жыл бұрын
Hello, Can you use the same technique for turkey tale? Cheers
@RenegadeMushrooms
@RenegadeMushrooms Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, it works great for Turkey Tail 👍
@coryyounger3313
@coryyounger3313 Жыл бұрын
Hey bud what is the difference between shitake sawdust spawn and a shitake fruiting block? I understand the fruiting blocks have wheat bran and gypsum in them in order to feed the mycelium through the whole fruiting process but is sawdust spawn the same thing or is it just the hardwood fuel pellets and water in sawdust spawn? I'm asking because I want to inoculate some logs like you did here with sawdust spawn but I only have shitake fruiting blocks started. Can I use them to inoculate the logs or should I go online and purchase sawdust spawn specifically?
@RenegadeMushrooms
@RenegadeMushrooms Жыл бұрын
You can absolutely use fruiting blocks to inoculate your logs. As you mentioned, fruiting blocks are just spawn blocks with some extra nutrients added. One 5 lb. fruiting block should do around 20 logs.
@coryyounger3313
@coryyounger3313 Жыл бұрын
Ok great thank you!! And for future reference, do you know what sawdust spawn consists of? Is it just straight sawdust (HWFP) and spawn?
@RenegadeMushrooms
@RenegadeMushrooms Жыл бұрын
@@coryyounger3313 Yes, typically it is just straight aged sawdust or HWFP. Sometimes, depending on species, there are other additives to help with colonization. But for the most part it is straight sawdust.
@davidmitchell3671
@davidmitchell3671 8 ай бұрын
So, if the logs get too dry, does the mycelium die, or do you just have to get them wet? Or do contaminants take over? I've got a deep probe moisture meter and some of my logs are 45-55% MC and some are 20%. I'm just wondering if the 20% logs are not worth keeping. Thanks.
@RenegadeMushrooms
@RenegadeMushrooms 8 ай бұрын
The mycelium will die, you can try to completely submerge and hydrate them for 24 hours if they're borderline, but they eventually get to the point where the mycelium dies and the logs won't absorb moisture.
@davidmitchell3671
@davidmitchell3671 8 ай бұрын
@@RenegadeMushrooms Thanks. Living in Appalachian Virginia, in the forest, I would hope the logs would stay moist enough, since we have lots of natural mushrooms all over; but certainly could have. The other issue I wonder about is contamination. I don't think I have been careful to keep my logs off the ground during the early spawn run, so with our diverse wild mushroom population, the logs may struggle more with competitors. It is surprising to me that sometimes I will cut a poplar tree down in the woods, and within 1-2 years there are wild oysters growing on it, but some of my oyster logs never produce, despite pluggin them! I'm planning to do a neighborhood workshop to plug some logs and tell people to weigh their log when they get home and then keep a record of the log's weight over months. Do you think that is a good way to keep track of moisture too? Thanks.
@RenegadeMushrooms
@RenegadeMushrooms 8 ай бұрын
@@davidmitchell3671 I think monitoring the weight is a great idea. I've never owned one, but I've heard from others that some wood moisture probes can be pretty inaccurate. I used to grow oysters and shiitake commercially outdoors on logs for restaurants, and we always left one end of the log on the ground. Sometimes you'd get a little false turkey tail growing here or there on the ends, but we would just trim an inch off with the chainsaw. For the most part it wasn't an issue. I highly recommend the totem method with larger diameter logs for oysters vs. plugging. That method always gave us much better results for the oyster species we grew.
@davidmitchell3671
@davidmitchell3671 8 ай бұрын
@@RenegadeMushrooms Thanks for the tips!
@mtwenhafel
@mtwenhafel 3 ай бұрын
What will logs cut in spring do vs cut in fall
@RenegadeMushrooms
@RenegadeMushrooms 3 ай бұрын
Either is fine, you just want to cut when trees are dormant so after leaf change in the fall to before bud swell in the spring. I prefer to cut mine in late winter, usually in February.
@carolyn9547
@carolyn9547 Жыл бұрын
Will this work with Lion's Mane?
@RenegadeMushrooms
@RenegadeMushrooms Жыл бұрын
Yes it does, but colonization takes a long time and Lions Mane doesn't yield very heavy on logs. Lions Mane is one that is much better to grow indoors on pasteurized hardwood fuel pellets. It's less effort and more return. Here's a video on that if you're interested: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hJOBo8VksJ6pfGQ.html
@saaklart
@saaklart 4 ай бұрын
You need protective eye gear🤣
@RenegadeMushrooms
@RenegadeMushrooms 4 ай бұрын
Chips a flyin 😂
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