Shimano XT vs XTR TRAIL Pedals - M8120 vs M9120 - Which is better? Long term review

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Shimano #XT M8120 #SPD pedals, Trail version, vs XTR M9120 that I reviewed in spring. Both clipless pedals launched with #Shimano 12 speed drivetrain. Does the XT have the same issues noticed with XTR?
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00:34 XTR M9120 used for comparison
00:57 A closer look, XT vs XTR
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03:29 Left, right, installation
03:55 SPD cleat compatibility
04:09 Weight, XT vs XTR
04:44 Price, use feedback
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@hardmtnbiker Жыл бұрын

I have the older XT and XTR trail pedals all the way back to the originals. They developed a small amount of play but I guess I could get a rebuild get and reduce that. The newest I have is the 9120 but honestly my 8020 is great. I have several bikes and you have inspired me to look up all the different model numbers. Thanks

@rickschock4642 Жыл бұрын

I am using the M8120s and have had them for 2 seasons. I like the extra platform and the Shimano reputation. Great pedal so far. I replaced a pair of SLX pedals I had for about 10 years and they were still working; too many rock strikes had ground away at the adjustment mechanism or I would have sold them used. I have used Crank Brothers before and liked them also, but I prefer the ability to adjust the release tension that Shimano features.

@sebastianjost Жыл бұрын

Can't you replace the adjustment mechanism? It's usually just screwed in with three screws.

@bubbachud Жыл бұрын

Thanks for doing a comparison review. Fellow SW Ontario local here. Hope to see you out on the trails. Q: Could you use the SH56 Multi release cleat with the XT/XTR pedals?

@M1keBLR Жыл бұрын

M9100 with 3mm shorter axles my love! Since we don't have big mountains here, there is no need to go for bigger platforms. Shoes are so stiff nowadays, that can provide propper support. Anyway the quility and longivity of shimano pedals is just unbeatable.

@Icamas Жыл бұрын

I went from the M8120s to the HT T2 Pedals. I much prefer the feeling of the HT engagement and pedal feel. I used both pedals with the Fizik Gravita Tensor Shoe

@joppek77 Жыл бұрын

Currently running the M8120s on my trail bike. I had the M9100 XC style pedal for a while, trying to shave some weight, but I found the M9100 _more_ difficult to engage so I sold them. I'd be curious to try the new Hope Union pedals to see how they work.

@tonyb2760 Жыл бұрын

I use Shimano Saint before I decided to give Look a try, and now my favorite is Look X-Track-Race. I have the race carbon and regular race and really don't notice ant difference at all. I also have the X-Track Enrage but prefer the X-Track race.

@kingrat738 Жыл бұрын

I run an old set of XT spd's (2014's I think) on one of my rigs... They're bomb proof and only need servicing every couple of years. I've also recently purchased a newer set of XT spd's for my big bike (170/150 XL Trek Remedy) and the biggest difference I notice between the two, is the wider (more supportive platform) I also run a set of the more XC XT's (small cage). They tend to go on my AM HT 29er... again, they require very little maintenance and work great... again, less real estate = better for more trail'ish applications. YMMV 🤘 No need to try anything other than Shimano SPD's PS - I run two different MTB shoes... One set is a Northwave trail type shoe with straps. The other is a stiffer, more winter friendly, Enduro style shoe (laces & strap). I prefer the lighter style shoe most of the time, until things get cold & damp.

@GokkunGuru Жыл бұрын

Always been curious about these pedals but I love my OneUp oil slick aluminum flats too much to convert.

@JamesLG4 Жыл бұрын

I really like the Saint SPDs, I forget the model number. I have XTRs without the cage on my gravel bike and agree they are easier/quicker to get into, I was surprised by that.

@superjimnz 3 ай бұрын

Thinner axle and lower stack height on the XTR? Supposedly better mud-clearing (due to thinner axle)

@jimbojet8728 2 ай бұрын

Thanks. A good review. I’m shopping for pedals now and I still don’t know whether to spend my money on the XTR or the pedals without the platform.

@LoveMTB 2 ай бұрын

No worries I would personally go for XT without platform

@edjesuitas1 Жыл бұрын

I have an XT and after a few months has a noticeable play on the right pedal. Upon checking the spindle and bearings there is an approximately 5mmm gap bearing to spindle. Are there any of you with similar issue? What can you recommend

@Ruben.C.C. Жыл бұрын

Excelente comparativa. Saludos desde Spain.

@manuelmartinezlopez7338 Жыл бұрын

Tengo pedales de los dos modelos xt y xtr con plataforma(por problemas en los pies uso plataforma)sin problema en ninguno de los dos modelos

@spamshare6956 11 ай бұрын

I use the Shimano ES600 on my Endurance, Gravel and will use it on my upcoming Yeti ARC build. I'm very happy with them, they are light (279 gram a set), cheap, and the locking system seem to be the same on all Shimano SPD pedals.

@LoveMTB 11 ай бұрын

What's the advantage of the sigle sided?

@spamshare6956 11 ай бұрын

@@LoveMTBI bought the first pair because they were the lightest SPD pedals. I didn't buy them for the single-sided click mount. But this could be one of the reason for the low weight (I assume the locking system is made of steel). It takes several weeks before they are always right side up. The front then points slightly upwards, making it easy to secure.

@LoveMTB 11 ай бұрын

@@spamshare6956 Makes sense

@michaelmann3636 Жыл бұрын

Are the cleat spacers required for proper operation ?

@robertmcfadyen9156 8 ай бұрын

My 8120 pedals are from a Japanese batch . 135 people have done this review on KZfaq in the past year .

@JogBird Жыл бұрын

i use 9020 on my road bike paired with shimano spd sandals.. i always get asked about them, esp when its 30+ degrees out and humid

@bogdanostaszewski7484 Жыл бұрын

Shimano 858 but there are no longer available blocks for them,

@scherzo0o Жыл бұрын

you should have included the previous XT generation as well... I have the previous generation, was curious if there's any point in upgrading to the new XT.

@scherzo0o Жыл бұрын

I was curious if the different size of the platform brings about some improvement.

@Andy-co6pn Жыл бұрын

You mention that the entry into the trail pedal wasnt as natural and took more getting used to than the race style pedals . How about when riding, do the trail type feel like they give more support than the race style or are they indistinguishable ?

@Andy-co6pn Жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB cheers , that's enough for me to stick with what I've got. 😄

@burningatthetrailhead Жыл бұрын

I run flats because I ride dj and freeride. I'm always switching it up. As long as the platform has a prominent concave and sharp pins I'll run them.

@burningatthetrailhead Жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB no. My shins someone took a meat cleaver to them 😅

@lemonadejars Жыл бұрын

Using the m8120’s, thought about the xtr’s but the walking seals puts me off. Just one more thing that needs your attention, whereas the m8120’s are solid

@lemonadejars Жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB ya, same! I just eat one less pie before the ride 😂

@dimimtb Жыл бұрын

My 8020s ended up with a lot of slop in the right pedal. Tried to rebuild them, change the bearings but none of that helped and they moved about 5mm on the axel. Just bought a pair of Nukeproof SPD compatibles. Two rides in and they are decent so far. Wider platform and there SPD mechanism is a bit stiffer. Time will tell but they were only $90cdn shipped.

@dimimtb Жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB Bought them off of eBay so not sure Shimano would honour the warranty given they have regional offices and don't allow for sales in different regions. Plus all of the Shimano numbers I found were in the US. I recall reading that there were design problems with the 8020s and it was a common issue but didn't see that until after I bought them.

@robertmcfadyen9156 8 ай бұрын

I have made titanium bushes that fix this in a machine shop .

@robertmcfadyen9156 8 ай бұрын

I have had to repair Nukeproof , Funn and Syncros ones as well .

@robertmcfadyen9156 8 ай бұрын

Axial strikes can "KILL" any small cartridge bearing system .

@fpainchaud350 Жыл бұрын

I use the magnetic clipless pedals from Magped. The Enduro pedals are for me, I just can't get used to real cleats.

@rickywoods3101 Жыл бұрын

How do you like the magpeds compared to bro al clippless ?

@fpainchaud350 Жыл бұрын

@@rickywoods3101 I just bought a second pair of Enduro II for my second bike

@robertmcfadyen9156 8 ай бұрын

The release and insertion ease - of - use of the 8120's that I currently use on my Trek is more confidence inspiring than the 520 or 540's . This is more commonly stated on forums and is contradictory to your claim . It is about shoe type and feel through the mid - sole . I am in my mid 50's and have osteoperosis .

@LoveMTB 8 ай бұрын

I hear you. I still prefer the 520-540 type for ease of in-out.

@speedfrx 2 ай бұрын

What’s the point of the frame? Is it with contact with the shoe?

@LoveMTB 2 ай бұрын

Apparently it could for shoes that are meant for it not hard sole XC shoes that ppl usually use😉

@AWEG-qu8bz Жыл бұрын

Hello. The most significant difference between 8100/9100 and 8120/9120 is the larger contact area for the foot. correct?

@LoveMTB Жыл бұрын

Yes and i personally prefer the 9100 form factor

@AWEG-qu8bz Жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB do I need special shoes/soles for these pedals? Specifically for the 8120/9120 because of the bigger Frame of the Pedal?

@LoveMTB Жыл бұрын

@@AWEG-qu8bz no you do not

@AWEG-qu8bz Жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB Great. Thanks.

@FastForwardBG Жыл бұрын

SLX ME700 and the classic - Deore M520

@Andy-co6pn Жыл бұрын

My 520s still going strong after 7 years, before that I had 525 pedals that I bought in 1995

@viniciovieirajr. Жыл бұрын

Wow... I would like to prove one of those pedals. But at the moment I will keep my crankbrothers in action...

@Atc05 Жыл бұрын

I run the M8120s. Never ridden anything else, don't have any issues with them and my riding style so why waste money on something that's not broken.

@sebastianjost Жыл бұрын

I will stick to flat pedals for my MTB. Gravelbike currently has Shimano T8000, but I'm looking to replace them with something like the pedals shown here (the T8000 are amazing, but I don't use the flat side anymore). Are there any great options other than the Shimano M8020 ones I should be aware of?

@fpainchaud350 Жыл бұрын

I still use the CrankBrothers double shots on my gravel bike. I don't really use the flat side, but it's great when I just go the the ice-cream shop with my daughter.

@McLambo Жыл бұрын

Are you sure the XT's dont have a seal ring? I have have been regreasing xt pedals for years, and remember the seal from previous model XT pedals. Usually if you poke it back in deep with a toothpick kt doesn't come out anymore

@evanm.2300 Жыл бұрын

There is a big thing u missed my friend. The lack of surface area for stability on the XT's compared to XTR. I just installed my XTR's in the garage and inspected that with at least a 1 gen shimano mt-07 trail shoe it last contacts with that spot in the back that the XT's r missing. So its a big stability boost. Shimano must-have knew what they had there with the better xtr. And even more suspicious that the older xt had the sides carved out for less weight. I bet we can mod these pedal to have that same shape to lose about 28 grams lol. I would love to see someone do this with power tools or stationary machines or at a machine shop

@LoveMTB Жыл бұрын

Good points Evan! TBH I prefer the lack of platform it's easier to clip in. And the platform, with a stiff sole shoe, does not do much. Again, that's my experience, thanks for sharing yours!

@evanm.2300 Жыл бұрын

@LoveMTB i forgot about stiff shoes my shoes have some flex on them but for these pedals i feel its a benefit. So far in the garage test fitting it feels like as it flexes the pedal will hug the outersole. So unless a stiffer shoe is a perfect fit than id probably stick to my regular smaller xtr non caged

@LoveMTB Жыл бұрын

@@evanm.2300 And I think that is their preferred use. I use the same shoes for XC/ Trail so maybe that's why there's no benefit for me.

@jamble7k Жыл бұрын

saint dh pedals 👌

@jonathianteixeira2248 Жыл бұрын

Utilizo o Welgo.

@marekvanatka2426 Жыл бұрын

I honestly do not see a purpose of this cage as it does not engage with the shoes. Or does it?

@suney20 Жыл бұрын

I’ve read somewhere the pins on the saint pedal don’t actually make contact with the shoe as the spd mechanism sits so much higher than the platform. So I doubt the cage on the xt/xtr would be any different

@syazwanabdull4835 Жыл бұрын

Nice malaysia and japan

@bnsx Жыл бұрын

crank brothers eggbeater 3 ftw :)

@wesdizz6297 Жыл бұрын

crank brothers are the worst out of all the clipless pedals. I tried them for two years and they were horrible.

@FinalChunk_ 11 ай бұрын

They need a lot of maintenance, extra cost for all the replacement bearings and axles, bras cleats, wear out after 1000km, and are more expensive overall...

@FinalChunk_ 11 ай бұрын

They need a lot of maintenance, extra cost for all the replacement bearings and axles, bras cleats, wear out after 1000km, and are more expensive overall...