Shimano XTR vs XT vs SLX vs Deore | MTB Drivetrains Explained!

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Are you thinking of upgrading your mountain bike? Choosing which drivetrain to pick can be quite confusing! Following the release of the Deore 12 speed groupset in 2020, there are now more choices than ever when it comes to 1x12 drivetrain setups with a nice variety of price ranges to suit everybody! In this video, Doddy talks you through the difference between XTR, XT, SLX and Deore 12 From their respective weights, shifting characteristics and the overall design, Doddy will help you decide which Shimano groupset is right for your Mountain bike!
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⏱ Timestamps ⏱
0:00 - Intro
0:18 - Shimano groupset
3:00 - MTB crank comparison
5:28 - MTB chain comparison
8:20 - MTB Cassette comparison
10:11 - MTB shifter comparison
11:59 - MTB rear mech comparison
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@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын

Do you ride a Shimano groupset, if so which do you use? Do you mix and match components? Let us know down below! 👇

@ziggyzuggyboi 2 жыл бұрын

I run deore rd slx casette xtr shifter….

@MYLamboReventon 2 жыл бұрын

I run XT casette, rear mech, chain and shifter, and a Race Face Turbine Crank and chainring.

@maxschindler_007 2 жыл бұрын

complete deore

@alejandromtb 2 жыл бұрын

Cassette- DeoreXT Rear D- Deore6100 Chain- XTR Crank-Deore XT Chain Ring-SLX Shifter-Deore 6100

@elwindoor 2 жыл бұрын

I run xt casette with xtr chain and xtr derailleur with xt shift lever.. the crank is Xx1 with AB oval chainring with shimano tooth profile. The reason is..I love the shimano shifting mech but i impressed by the sram carbon cranks. ✌️

@dad7720 2 жыл бұрын

I've never understood the obsession with a few grams of weight in cycling and bike components. If you have a decent dump or a pee before you get on your bike, that will save much more weight than lashing out hundreds of pounds for a very slightly lighter cassette for instance.

@ianhopwood6726 2 жыл бұрын

Im just looking down at my beer belly and thinking oh for a few less grams 😍

@XxXdarkarrowXxX 2 жыл бұрын

I understand you, those high end products are meant for racing, but that does not mean that people does wrong by spending money in a lighter bike. You can always stop to poo/pee.

@drezc5444 2 жыл бұрын

thats what i always said. im sure a few grams isnt gonna make you get 8th place and if thats the case its not the weight of the bike but the rider. the weight of the frame is probably the only thing that would make a difference.

@NONO-hz4vo 2 жыл бұрын

The last jump to XTR level components or any of the top level parts is generally a pretty massive price jump for a modest weight savings. If you add up all the weight savings and performance gains of the next level down across the entire bike it is definitely noticeable. Specifically in the wheels, but again cumulatively these differences add up to quite a bit. If you get a chance to ride a high end bike and then the low end model you may find the fun factor is worth the extra 2k in bike price.

@toshman696969 2 жыл бұрын

@@NONO-hz4vo I always look at it from a supply / demand perspective. If there was no demand they wouldn't make it. People buy it because they have the money and they want it.

@janchris7947 2 жыл бұрын

I can only afford a Tourney but the joy in mountain biking is priceless 😎

@francoisjoly7696 2 жыл бұрын

As a bourgeois: I currently use an Altus, the Tourney's XTR. Couldn't afford the Acera ;-)

@mikecoglione1308 3 ай бұрын

Tourney is the most expensive because it breaks down and needs replacement so much. Its cheaper to go Deore and only change chains and brake pads every once in a while. Trust me I did it. And if you want to upgrade Tourney the brakes, shifters, hubs and everything else is only compatible with the lower groupsets so you might as well buy a new bike. Start with Deore if price is a problem you won't go wrong.

@abdullah_556_ 2 жыл бұрын

When the groupset costs more than your bike, you know they ain't playin.

@doubleL_S 2 жыл бұрын

It's an absolute joke and just like rolex watches aren't expensive to make neither is that chainset. They're laughing at bikers wanting to shave 0.4 seconds off of a time.

@sepg5084 2 жыл бұрын

@@doubleL_S learn something new about professional equipment: 0.1 seconds can be the difference between a win and a loss. If you are not a professional, you have no need for one. No one is forcing you to buy expensive parts, you can buy an Alivio if you want or whatever 😂

@doubleL_S 2 жыл бұрын

@@sepg5084 I dunno what that is but 🤷🏻‍♂️ brakes are brakes if you're not a fat c**t you don't need amazing ones. They all stop pretty much the same.

@ludwigvonn9889 2 жыл бұрын

Fr i just recently bought my first bike and i was so confused by the different prices of the same model. How does one bike cost 500 and at the same time 1500$...

@nerglersstuff8890 2 жыл бұрын

@@sepg5084 ouch.. That's my drivetrain! I pretty recently learned what that drivetrain is aimed at, and how cheap it is. And damn dude, it's way more than just 0,1 second. Do you know how much my fork and front wheel weighs? It's like having a small child strapped to my handlebars.. :( So strange to me to complain about prices for bike parts when you consider that a pair of pants can easily go for above 100€. I bet that people complaining here have no idea exactly how crappy the cheap parts really are. For example, the Alivio bottom-bracket in my bike is 70% plastic. It looks like a rat lives in there- that's how much dirt it collects. Sorry, had to rant.. I'm very frustrated with my bike atm. Everything is fucking crumbling.

@The_One-Eyed_Undertaker 2 жыл бұрын

The SWEET SPOT is SLX chainring, derailleur and chain (best price to weight/performance), Deore cassette (steel durability) and XT shifters (functionality) PLUS SLX 4-piston brakes.

@gabaslabas6897 2 жыл бұрын

For me XT chain lasted a lot longer than SLX. I would recommend getting XT chain instead for sure.

@jakesteve5803 2 жыл бұрын

@@gabaslabas6897 There's been some good tests confirming the XT chain is significantly stronger. My bike came with an all SLX gruppo, and my only real gripe is that the XT shifters are amazing in comparison. Also bent the SLX chainring, and I'm going OneUp so I can replace the outter chainring easier and cheaper.

@thelawnet 2 жыл бұрын

the slx derailleur is not an upgrade over the Deore. the Deore xt has sealed jockey bearings, but its noot a big deal as you can lube and replace cheaper ones when they wear out, but ok. the saving with slx is not the chainring, which is basically the same, but the hollow crank arm. the Deore cassette is heavier and absolutely NOT more durable. the difference between the deore and slx is the big cog, which is aluminium on the slx, steel on the deore. you will NEVER wear out the big cog. both cassettes are otherwise steel toothed. it is the xt chain which is hardened, the slx only has some nonstick coating which will wear off. the slx chain is just a waste. you are right about the shifter though.

@Netox2 2 жыл бұрын

@@thelawnet then, what would be the right combo in your opinion?

@thelawnet 2 жыл бұрын

@@Netox2 Deore is fine for everything, but if you want to upgrade xt for chain, xt for shifter, slx or xt for chainset, xt for cassette (it's only about weight), xt for derailleur, slx for brakes

@Banshee365 Жыл бұрын

My bike came with a Deore level 12 speed drivetrain. I added an XT shifter and it’s an incredible combination for the money.

@keirfarnum6811 Ай бұрын

You did it right. The shifter is one of the best upgrades you can do. It can make a lower level derailleur work much better.

@ElevationEveryWeekend 2 жыл бұрын

After using a couple 1x11 Deore drivetrains (and finding them solid), the newer 1x12 Deore is a nice improvement, shifts noticeably better than the 1x11. I have a 1x12 SLX on another bike and it is the sweet spot IMO.

@BrettinLux 2 жыл бұрын

My son has a mix of Deore and SLX on his bike and it really great value for money👍

@bonzychinn 2 жыл бұрын

1x12 SLX shifter & rear derailleur mix with FSA crankset, KMC chain with 9-50t e-13 cassette on my hardtail & they shifts butter ❤️❤️❤️

@nicholkid 2 жыл бұрын

I've got the 1x10 deore from 2020 and it has been flawless. Never mis-shifts and the cranks are super stiff. If you are budget conscious there's barely any downsides to sticking with plain deore.

@ridesouls2830 2 жыл бұрын

Try sram xx1 or xo1 derailleur shifter you never want Shimano again

@jimbo4203 2 жыл бұрын

My specialized ebike came with Deore and its been great

@paulssnfuture2752 2 жыл бұрын

Deore But still get an XT shifter for a small amount seems the best for my usecase

@nodammit Жыл бұрын

@@ridesouls2830 I did. I never wanted Sram again..

@davestopa999 Жыл бұрын

My stock Altus on my mtb has been going strong for a year now, maybe I've missed a shift a couple times but no biggie, I'm pretty happy with it but have always wondered, is the difference in price between my Altus and a Deore (only groupset I could possibly afford to upgrade to) worth it to a casual rider like myself?

@GreenLifeOne 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video, it comes at just the right time. I am in the process of building a new MTB and first wanted to go XT but then SLX to save a little money. But I couldn't make much sense of some of the technical differences, the explanation in the video helped me a lot. I will stay with XT and try to save a little money in another place.

@mickchaganis6607 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant, well explained, nice to know about SRAM also. People say they are all the same, just different materials, partly true but you have explained the other differences in a really easy to understand way. 😁

@reeeeeeee8392 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Would we be able to get a similar video for Shimano brakes?

@jeskli11 2 жыл бұрын

My ideal setup: Crankset: Shimano SLX (maybe XT just for the looks) Chain: Shimano SLX Cassette: Garbaruk 12-speed Shifter: Shimano XT Derailleur: either Shimano XT or SLX with replaced pulley wheels

@sophiebryant9446 2 жыл бұрын

Good reviews, like the technical breakdowns.

@dash0173 2 жыл бұрын

super awesome. my life pretty much revolves around bikes, i work on bikes for a living right now(not for much longer though, thankfully) and i ride mtbs multiple times a week. i'm getting a little sick of seeing the same issues on bikes come through the shop but I never get sick of explaining what the differences are in products like these. I almost like selling bikes and talking about them more than i like working on them at this point. I've been doing it for years and years and I am quite comfortable and confident in doing 95% of all services but when it comes to talking to people about the really tiny details on different suspension products, drivetrains, saddles etc etc, it 's a never ending learning game and its nice because it keeps me stimulated vs just cranking away on bike repairs all day. videos like these really help me a lot

@paradox963 2 жыл бұрын

I feel your pain, I'm also a full time bike mechanic which is why all of my bikes are SRAM AXS drive trains and Magura brakes, set it and forget it. Flawless shifting all the time and brakes that once I set them up once I only have to touch them when it's time for new pads or fluid. I can proudly say I don't own a bike with a Shimano component on it.

@gray_wolverine63 2 жыл бұрын

I have to admit I am a Shimano fan boy from XT XTR, it's all I run on all my bike, I'm a firm believer you get what you pay for. Awesome insight 👏🏼

@danecarli 2 жыл бұрын

SLX is definitely where your getting your moneys worth. Less than half the price of XTR and lots of similiar features.

@tobyg4556 2 жыл бұрын

I agree, but after getting an XT shifter, I'd never go back.

@bitumen83 2 жыл бұрын

Actualy SLX is the worst IMO, from everything that we heard in this video and what I know from previos versions if you want to go on budget go Deore, if you want great performance, durability and tech go XT. XTR is for racers and for guys who have a lot of money to throw around. SLX is more expensive that deore but you dont get any more performance, same shifting and little less weight... and it looks fugly with that gray color.

@LuLeBe 2 жыл бұрын

I'm actually thinking deore with the XT shifter (rapid shift also to smaller cogs). My bike came with SLX but if I were to build it myself or buy from a brand where I can pick all the components, I'd see no reason to go with SLX. Sure it's lighter but most bikes these days weigh so much that 300 grams don't matter a lot.

@swyx8084 2 жыл бұрын

@@bitumen83 I agree, I have Deore XT shifter and Deore RD on my Dartmoor primal, prolly best combo I had on a budget

@NiohNiohYT 2 жыл бұрын

Not really feels *exactly* the same as Deore, so other than weight (which is legit reason for someone to go SLX) Deore is the sweet spot, preferably with XT shifter. Maybe go SLX crankset simply cos it's possibly the cheapest way to save 150 grams ever if you see difference in Deore and SLX crankset cost, but other than crankset potentially nothing from SLX makes sense over Deore.

@OwlCMedicine Жыл бұрын

simply the best breakdown of this ever. Thank you. This answered all my questions at once. You rock.

@NorthernSkiAndCycle 2 жыл бұрын

Also, XT and XTR derailleurs have a port to adjust the clutch without removing the cover.

@derekneumann 2 жыл бұрын

I have been rolling a full SLX drivetrain on my 2021 Specialized Stumpjumper Comp Carbon 29 for about a year now.... awesome!! I really haven't cleaned it or messed with it worth a damn, and still shifting great!

@1911Zoey 2 жыл бұрын

Check your drivetrain for dirt or dust. If I were you I'd baby that thing once or twice a week depending on how much time you spend riding it. 👍

@MichielBrockhus 2 жыл бұрын

Great video and most of all, amazing editing👌🏻

@iainrossiter758 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely brilliant summary 👌

@Jacob99174 2 жыл бұрын

No better person on EARTH to discuss this. I love this guy

@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын

Doddy's the expert! Thanks for watching!

@konradchristen 10 ай бұрын

Very informative thank you! Looking at bike trim levels and trying to understand why it’s worth/not worth the upgrade fees is greatly helped by breakdowns like this. Thank you!

@ScottTeuber 6 ай бұрын

Excellent! Thanks for helping me understand drive trains better.

@christopherfinnegan257 2 жыл бұрын

I was lucky when I was looking to upgrade my groupset because I found a mix groupset, shifters and crank were SLX and the cassette, chain and rear mech (deraliuer) were XT and in my opinion the a winning combination became you've got the durability of the XT and the smother shifting from the SLX

@reeceholmes8546 2 жыл бұрын

thanks Doddy, this is what i needed I'm pretty much a born again biker and new bikes are alien to me, great stuff

@zachscherpa944 2 жыл бұрын

Great informative video! Saving this one, thanks!

@simonwang3484 2 жыл бұрын

Great vid! Could you please do one on the Shimano brake lineup compared?

@charlie9ine 2 жыл бұрын

You are bang on Doddy. The cross compatibility is great because you can customize your transmission without compromising

@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly right! 👍

@gariepyf 2 жыл бұрын

I got the full SLX groupset and brakes a coupe years ago (2x11 speeds). No issues ever. Everything has been perfectly functional and reliable. I've only had good experiences with Shimano stuff. The guy at the bike shop said that's what he bought for his personal bike.

@joedatuknow 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks your great gald to have u back

@Outdoor_MED 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video Doddy!

@Cycle9568 2 жыл бұрын

A nice chart with all of the weights and prices would have been a great way to wrap this all up.

@pgjudo 2 жыл бұрын

Worldwide Cyclery did that: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a9uFpLygy8-9hpc.html

@cencoast_7.340 2 жыл бұрын

He said and displayed it all.

@moxnix Жыл бұрын

if you want to make your bike lighter replace the air in tires with helium = No joke Helium has 0.0114 pounds per cubic foot. For a one cubic foot helium filled balloon , gravity pulls the down on the helium with a force of 0.0114 pounds while the air pushes up with a force equal to the weight of the air the helium displaced, or 0.0807 pounds.

@MrJohnadan 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! Just a quick correction: SLX doesn't have Instant Release (at 10:39). Keep up the good work! Cheers!

@robbklobb6501 3 ай бұрын

PERFECT REVIEW! Nothing to add. Nothing to remove.

@WhiteMFingRabbit 2 жыл бұрын

Super helpful video, Thank you! Now lets wait a couple of year for any of this to be in stock xD

@joachimdo7096 2 жыл бұрын

That was a long awaited clarification and summarization. Please do more of this. Maybe with brakes etc.

@deusexaethera 2 жыл бұрын

Let me boil it down for you: More money = Fancier features + narrower market demographic who will actually benefit from those features. Buy the best stuff you can afford and be happy with it.

@martintin250 2 жыл бұрын

Great informative video. Well done 👍

@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Marty! Safe riding!

@admiralmachine 6 ай бұрын

That was great and informative, thank you.

@82lowe36id Жыл бұрын

Great information and you made it all make sense.

@dcv9460 2 жыл бұрын

AWESOME EXPLANATION! 👍🏽💯✔️

@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the content!

@maxspruit8370 Жыл бұрын

I remenber trying to bend/break a 90's xt rear derailleur cage plate. Bending it in the vise was hard and it would spring back perfectly. A little further and saw some surface fractures, bit sprang back perfectly. Yet further and in snapped. Case hardened with a good spring temper on the inside. Amazing quality.

@chadbouterse8617 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video!

@EimaiEmpusa69 9 ай бұрын

Defo upgrading to an XT.. Thank you for the info!

@silvanstaub 2 жыл бұрын

I don't know about others but I would like to see the same video with Sram.

@silver_c1oud 2 жыл бұрын

Sram sucks.

@benny868 2 жыл бұрын

@@silver_c1oud why’s that?

@Ghostina1 2 жыл бұрын

On Road Bikes Sram AXS is the way to go. But on the MTB Shimano is the unbeatable King!!!

@MartinTheGhost 2 жыл бұрын

they can't as gmbn is sponsored by shimano (that's why most bikes they use come with simano drivetrains)

@Ghostina1 2 жыл бұрын

@@MartinTheGhostthis is right! That's why we do not see the full spectrum of bikes we wanted to see... But the presenters need to pay there bills with the paycheck from GMBN so they have to pretend they are independent!!!

@captainbozo01 6 ай бұрын

My trekking bike has a 3 x 10 Deore/Deore XT mix and it's been working flawlessly ever since 2017!

@spikeloh 2 жыл бұрын

yes!! perfect & crystal clear explanation.

@jamestorres5582 9 ай бұрын

That was great . Liking the interchangeable parts. Works for me

@Arieleyo Жыл бұрын

Great video, thanks!

@benjaminloyer1293 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video ! To be constructive, I would have enjoyed an array to compare groupset main differences !

@098excel Жыл бұрын

Good job! Informative

@hoff482 2 жыл бұрын

Doddy, great video. I think you did a great job covering the differences. I have an SLX drivetrain on my eMTB. It works really well. I would like to go to a XT shifter for the double shifting, and maybe the XT cassette as well. Thank you for this informative video.

@AmbroseAgde 4 ай бұрын

Great video. Thanks a lot, that really helps to make the right choice. 👍

@Gabe73C 2 жыл бұрын

Well played, Shimano. You just talked me into an upgrade. 😆

@invain143 2 жыл бұрын

It is called "Upgraditis" and it is super contagious

@yannhenriot2568 2 жыл бұрын

I was dreaming of it, Doddy made it.

@kaltonian 2 жыл бұрын

that was great thank you, loving the 180 length crank arm, shimano components are great to miss & match

@andreashasibeder1483 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the nice overview, my take away is XT for the „good“ bike and Deore for the daily. 👍👍👍

@PEOdysseus 2 жыл бұрын

very helpful - thanks!!

@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын

No worries! We're glad you found this useful!

@frozencanuck6764 4 күн бұрын

I've got the XTR rear...XT front...with XT Rapid Fire Plus shifters. All my rings are Race Face. I also put on steel braided Flack Jacket cables. Bottom bracket and crank are also Race Face. The thing shifts like butter. The durability has been top notch. Highly recommended. Worth the $$.

@patthewoodboy 2 жыл бұрын

this is my mix. Hope evo cranks/chain ring , KMC 12 spd chain , Sunrace 12 spd cassette, XT rear derailleur , SLX shifter ... works fine

@tyrionlannister9376 2 жыл бұрын

I'm running an old XTR 2x10 on my S WORKS and I'm not going to change it for anything , because it is simply perfect and works flawlessly

@goforbroke2 2 жыл бұрын

I have Shimano SLX 1x10 groupset on my fatbike with 2,700 miles on it, haven’t replaced anything set. Minus the chainring I upgraded from 26T to 32T. Shimano builds quality components.

@IIISentorIII 2 жыл бұрын

Dude you are going broke the 2nd time!

@ctsingletrack 9 ай бұрын

The XT and XTR have an access port on the clutch cover for adjusting the clutch on the fly. The Deore and SLX require you to remove the clutch cover to make adjustments. I find periodic adjustments are necessary with Shimano derailleur clutches.

@polluxtroy2010 2 жыл бұрын

Very educative as always!, guys could you do a similar video but with SRAM transmissions?

@AlliKat75 2 жыл бұрын

Simple. Sram is mediocre. My gx eagle is slow to shift and misses every few shifts. I have run shimano for years and out is just smooth, crisp and lasts

@stephenshirley1496 2 жыл бұрын

Would love video on shimano brakes the same as u have done with the group sets

@beerenmusli8220 2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting, thank you : )

@christianthurow 2 жыл бұрын

That was helpful. I gotta read more on the clutch for the derailer feature though.. I didn't understand what it was from this video.

@mattd5136 2 жыл бұрын

Pick your preferred price bracket and go to town, they're all brilliant. That said, there's exactly two items I always always always go XTR on - shift cables (brake lines back in the day too) and chains. The flurocoated super slippery XTR cables will make EVERY groupset shift better. The ferrules with little hoses will help keep crud out of the lines and ease high friction points. The only upgrade from there is DI2. Chains are a tricky one because all of the proper magic is inside. Leave watts saved for the world class athletes and think of longevity. More expensive chains use better quality steel, are made to tighter tolerances and have expensive surface hardness/friction modifying treatments applied to more of their bits. XT chain in a pinch, but XTR everywhere simply because they last longer - and by extension wear less into the ultra expensive cassette and chainring.

@robertmcfadyen9156 Жыл бұрын

You can mix and match as long as the rear derailleur actuation ratios are the same & the front derailleur inner / outer cage sides accept the chainring sizes you intend to use . Also rear derailleur capacity . There are other minor considerations but these are the main ones . Also chain types are important .

@marthamryglod291 2 жыл бұрын

My neighbor used to race regionally. As a kid, I would ask to go over and just stare at his bike. He had the latest and greatest every year. All the stuff I would see in the magazines. He always used XTR

@nileshvagal Жыл бұрын

superb video 👍👍👍👍👍

@ogmr.c3714 4 күн бұрын

I have the deore Shadow+ with praxis M24 on my 2022 full suspension trail bike and it works great.

@samfalk8420 2 жыл бұрын

Please do one comparing the different tiers of brake levers!

@LoaforDie 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting video for me. Never owned a mountain bike but this video is like the equivalent of road group sets, Sora-105-Ultegra-Dura-ace. Cool watch.

@paulsack9563 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I always wondered what the benefits of a high end system is.

@robgoffroad 2 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see a version of this video covering the SRAM components. My new bike has SRAM, all entry-level (Deore-equivilent) and I'd love to know about the higher end stuff that I might want to swap on.

@szurketaltos2693 2 жыл бұрын

IMO Deore sits somewhere between NX and GX -- heavier than GX but similar build quality. SX is heavy and flexy but can be good for people starting out on a budget.

@dolphin-studio Жыл бұрын

@@szurketaltos2693 more like sx is the only option when starting out

@stephendavis7707 9 ай бұрын

This has been a good vlogg for me to better understand how to change my 2x9 into a 1x12 ,i have no experience with bikes and their parts but i am trying to do it myself mechanically i am sound i just am unsure what to buy and why so this was a great help ,..

@motoktm3042 3 ай бұрын

If you have 2x9 , you can't go 1x12, 12 speed cassette will not fit on your hub. You can do 1x11.

@Jer0da0sniper 2 жыл бұрын

Can you please do one of these video for sram, I’d love it

@michaellacny4628 2 жыл бұрын

Been running 1x11 Deore on my Beargrease and am surprised by its smoothness. My first 1x drivetrain. Still love my 2x10 and I may be a bit weird, but my old XTR rapid rise is my favorite. Set-up on an old Trek 8500.

@aapomo Жыл бұрын

What year trek 8500 do you have? I have a 2006 8500 and planning to put xt 1x11 on it

@mountainbikerides 2 жыл бұрын

What everyone usually fails to mention is that manufacturers are cross compatible too! Especially with component shortages recently many of us are running mixes of SRAM, Shimano, Sunrace, KMC etc.... How about a "best mix and match" groupset with both value and performance results?

@MrKeefy Жыл бұрын

On my other bike (hybris) I have ultegra crank and chainring front derailleur with sram rival cassette and derailleur and sram rival thumb shifters. Works fine, took a bit extra setting up messing the the front derailleur screws to limit the rubbing when in low and high gears.

@barrybullsh1tter246 2 жыл бұрын

I have 2x11 Deore. Looking to upgrade to one of these in the future.

@wd99999 Жыл бұрын

Full XT build on both my last bikes, no complaints

@harrydunn2072 2 жыл бұрын

Please do one on the sram gear, love the video!

@DavidMaruca_ 2 жыл бұрын

Surprised how much more expensive the shimano sets are. The mid tier eagle NX is roughly the same price as the Deore. :o Thanks for getting into all the dirty details Doddy!

@jasonrichardwatts 5 ай бұрын

I've always found Deore's quality and longevity to surpass NX.

@akhilmathew3639 2 жыл бұрын

This is another level

@gabinidal6908 Жыл бұрын

I still have and loving my bombproof 3x10 $300 2014 deore group...

@I-Love-Taylor-Swift 2 жыл бұрын

I have an SLX rear mech & shifter, a SRAM cassette & chain & a Hope crankset!! It is excellent :-) I love my SLX rear mech & I love my Hope crankset!

@masterecotech 2 жыл бұрын

Great info Doddy, thanks. Could you do the same thing for Sram please?

@franknicholson7598 8 ай бұрын

I own bikes with XTR, XT, Eagle etc. and by far the XTR is the best shifting of all of them. Value proposition is personal.

@reddieseled Жыл бұрын

There’s not a lot in it with modern shifters and derailleurs. The Deore 1x10 and newer are great. The 12x can be very sensitive to changes in cable length. I use a 1x11 and it’s amazing and cheap components too when it wears

@islandaerial3414 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Doddy, Last time I was in the shop I was looking at a range of chains from 601($48 Cdn) to 701 ($68 Cdn) to 901($98 Cdn!)

@larskullberg7292 2 жыл бұрын

What´s your point???

@CoffeeMonster12 2 жыл бұрын

My drivetrain consists of all Deore except the cassette and shifter. The shifter is obvious, the feel and dual downshift capability is amazing. The cassette I got mostly becouse of the looks of it. Yes I did just eing it and wasted 160€ for the looks but if I really try to think about it the rear feels a bit lighter.

@msagoo29 2 жыл бұрын

Deore, is more than good enough for recreational riders, it's better than SX and NX, all of them have great fit, finish and build quality

@MrSupermugen 2 жыл бұрын

Just use a slx or xt cassette. The weight is considerable noticeable on both pedaling an suspension performance.

@tobyg4556 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrSupermugen I disagree, the most weight saved would be changing from deore to slx cranks.

@MrSupermugen 2 жыл бұрын

@@tobyg4556 ita not about overall its about the weight on the rear wheel... which is what i basically said...

@tobyg4556 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrSupermugen I don't believe that 60g is going to make any sort of noticeable difference in suspension performance.

@MrSupermugen 2 жыл бұрын

@@tobyg4556 65g is still a good chunk to come off the rear wheel. The xt cassette is 122 grams lighter. I went from a deore to xt and i noticed how much less harsh the rear was straight away. Next your going to tell me you dont feel a difference between an alloy and carbon frame

@AlexGirodo Жыл бұрын

thank you !

@darrinkulyk9560 Жыл бұрын

I just got a XT shifter snd Derailleur . Will make my SLX Spares 😎

@deusexaethera 2 жыл бұрын

I have to vent a pet peeve of mine: The correct names are not "shifter" and "mech", but "shift controller" and "shift actuator". Also, it's amazing how Shimano has managed to reduce the functionality of drivetrains by removing the high/low chainrings, while continuing to charge the same price.

@mellissanash7517 2 жыл бұрын

Deore with XT pullys is a nice mid-level setup.

@paulssnfuture2752 2 жыл бұрын

Nice 1st setup if you dont want to go any lower than deore... then just upgrade whatever wears out or breaks... specially if its for a first bike

@markjans2169 2 жыл бұрын

There are just a few SLX shifters with instant release. The normal SL-M7100 doesn’t have it. I have all SLX with XT derailleur. Works great! But doesn’t have instant release.