Ryota Kozuka and Toshiki Konishi really outdid themselves.

True. Especially DDS' soundtracks.

RONDE is the only one exception

I need this ost now

💀

Both are worth buying :)

​@@Magnetite_Eater 0.02 cents have been deposited in your account

it sucks but atlus has been doing this since forever so its unfortunately not gonna change

I don't think it makes a difference. You can just pretend the original release doesn't exist after all.

For reals

Hell’s version of Chicago is post apocalyptic.

This is just the average day for a midwesterner

really fun game with great visuals. try it out if you can!

Persona games are trash

Persona 3 Reload is good game, but bad remake.

@@nr2676how so?

yeah there cooking up all that bacon you gave them lol

Wait, was is this “social life” you speak of? Is it dlc? Because I’ve been on Rebirth and Unicorn Overlord and Paper Mario is coming out soon and I haven’t even picked up Stellar Blade yet. You know what, on second thought never mind answering the question 😂

@@systematicallyshocked LOL i'm in the same boat brother. Im still on Rebirth (chpt 7), I picked up Unicorn, pre-ordered this for PS5. Elden Ring DLC in June, and so many other titles in my backlog including Persona Reload/5

I haven't even finished Persona 5, and I'm still on base game SMT5, not even the DLC. I got it late 😢😅

I don't see how it's different footage than the other places where the trailer has been posted. Even NintendoLife stated their preview experience was with the PS5 version.

@@Baritocity this trailer has switch button prompts

@@Baritocityand 60 fps, also those spiky graphics

Nice! 👍🏻

No

With any Sega game from around that time, if you waited 3 weeks you could get it 50% off. I did it with the original smt 5 and Persona 5 royal. Sonic frontiers was 50% off around then too.

Luckily for me, I've bought the special edition at full price and haven't played the game yet only to pick it up again last month... Then I saw the reveal for smt vengeance.. yeah I feel kinda betrayed, pretty torn on what to play now

​@@shade4404 How? It's your fault you didn't play it lol. 5 is great.

if we can at least transfer the save file .. that would be better.. still painful though

⁠@Infernal_CrusaderYou’re right in the sense that the new additions are sprinkled throughout the game as a whole, and it’s not just a single new part that’s been added. But to say that you should pay for all the content again that you’ve already paid for once is just absurd. I think a lot of people are getting tired of this business practice that Atlus are going with. It would be better for all of us as consumers to just pay for what is new, and then allow us to start a new playthrough via the same copy that we already own. This trend of releasing games again, has begun to make people just want to wait a couple years for the rerelease instead of having to purchase the game twice

This game has an entirely different campaign with 80 hours of new content, reworks to the old campaign, and enough new features to make the original game look like a version alpha. Calling it a DLC is disingenuous when it offers more from the base game than most sequels

Whatever just give them your money cash monkey.

Thanks for beta-testing the game tho.. I appreciate it.

Like any Playstation ekslusive game from Sega (Virtua Fighter 5 Ultimate Shodown, Sakura Wars 2019, Fist of The North Star: Lost Paradise, Valkyria Chronicles on PS3, Valkyria Chronicles 2&3 on PSP). As a 3rd party publisher, you only limits your already niche audience.

I mean....they somehow do it better than square enix which probably will end up being sold completely.

​@@nindieboy4194Square Enix would release two story DLCs that would improve a little the story and then release a novel with everything from the story that was left off.

New story mode.

Complete version. Basically the main route stays the same with new demons and skills/qual of life features, and the old dlc. New route has a whole new campaign which apparently is extensive. I kinda hope they'll expand on some of the other routes in base though. LAW is well fleshed out, but NEUTRAL felt sorta abrupt and CHAOS is kinda dropped with a cool idea but without any real lead in. Regardless, SMT games rarely require you to play the previous game. SMT 1 and 2 are separated by hundreds of years. SMT 3 is in its own timeline. SMT 4 and 4 Apocalypse are also in their own timelines but 4A doesn't require you to have played 4 to understand it, it just has a lot of crossover and a retcon. SMT Strange Journey also is its own timeline and self contained.

@@deykuzor Oh Ok because I have the original version but not time to play it, so I can sell my old version and get this one? Perfect

​@randomgamier9782 i would sell your old one and get the new one. You get base smt v with all the upgrades and a second fully fleshed out route also.

Funny enough, I'm pretty sure the SMT team is the same as the Etrian Odyssey one. At the very least they said a new EO game is in the works, but I'd also really love to get a remaster of 4 and 5.

​@yoso378 yeah the director of this game is shigeo komori who worked on most of the etrian odyssey games

Wish granted. He’s a recruitable guest character, presumably after you defeat him.

Me too. I would’ve bought it if it wasn’t for Daman Mills.

They most likely will optimize the game better this time on switch. But I going for the PC version as well because I want 60fps.

Atlus thought the changes to the gameplay and story in Vengeance were so massive that they needed to include the original untouched version in the new one. When you start up a save, you’ll be asked to play the Canon of Creation, which is the original story, or the Canon of Vengeance, which is the new one.

Or even 8k if you have the hardware for it

Oh my goddddd shut up. This doesn’t happen as often as you think.

SMT always had human party members (Megami Tensei 1 & 2, SMT 1, SMT 2, SMT If, SMT 4, SMT 4 Apocalypse, Strange Journey, Devil Summoner series, Devil Survivor series, Majin Tensei series, and Digital Devil Saga series). In older games you had usually 2-4 human members in 6 party. Only Raidou Kuzunoha, SMT III Nocturne, and SMT V dont have, and you play whole game solo + demons.

@@nr2676 only played SMT-V. Thanks for the info.

@@nr2676 You forgot Shin Megami Tensei 3: Nocturne(The first Shin Megami Tensei game to be released in the west), Dante from Devil May Cry was in there?🤨

@@Unknown_User174 I forgot about Dante and Raidou, so except Raidou games and SMT V

It's been 50% off for months on eShop.

just get this one because it will have both the original game's story and the supossedly equally long alternate route

Mate it's Atlus we are talking about here as such will not have a "upgrade patch" instead will be an slightly enhanced full price re-release

@@bamban_garcia5562 You may be right. I can’t imagine tripling down on this game , but I probably would, if the rumors are true about the S2 having as much graphical power as a PS4 Pro, and the way developers were able to push the Switch so hard.

@@samuraigundam0079 They did it for Persona 5 $59.99, then Persona Royal another $59.99, then Persona Royal PlayStation 5 another $59.99 in which all they did was enabled a locked 60fps mode which also costed $59.99, then the mocking "1 more edition" priced at $119.99 Adding all those up comes out to $300.00 honestly a massive waste of money Like I said just hold off on buying it for now since a full price re-release "definitive edition" will come sooner or later

@@samuraigundam0079 Had 3 $59.99 re-releases followed by a $119.99 "1 more edition" adding up to $300.00 Like I said you be better off just waiting for the inevitable re-release full price version

Had 3 $59.99 re-releases followed by a $119.99 "1 more edition" adding up to $300.00 Like I said you be better off just waiting for the inevitable re-release full price version

Good stories: SMT 1, SMT 2, SMT 3, SMT 4, SMT Strange Journey (this game have best story in series) Bad stories: SMT 4 Apocalypse No story: SMT 5

if that happened then it would have stayed on the switch

@@teddysaliwa5770wym?

I think there's too much new content to just make it dlc.

I get it, but at the same time the amount of content here is effectively a new game + numerous system wide changes that would spice up the OG campaign’s gameplay as well. A more generous studio would make it DLC for sure, but unfortunately this is the one time I kinda get it.

@@AnimeXFever54 No rerelease means that every other console would get the same SMTV but now they have to purchase the DLC along with it or buy the version that comes preinstalled with the DLC for $70 and on top of that all of the other DLC is still separate content from the game so who knows if they would feel pressed to make those free in order to equalize it with the Switch version. Not to mention they'd find it much harder to implement the fundamental changes they're making to the gameplay systems.

Nah just Atlus way of milking a full price re-release by calling it an "expanded version"

They're describing it as an alternate scenario that is similar to base v in the beginning but completely diverges by the half way point of the game. There will be a ton of new sidequests to flesh out the world and about 80% of the ost is redone. Basically it's a new version of SMT V with more content and an "expanded" story with more emphasis on human characters.

@@techno-- I mean I'll admit the endings were not really that satisfying to me but 60 dollars for that Idk.

This will essentially be the definitive version of SMT V. Like persona 5 versus Persona 5 Royal

Get this one

Wait for this one since it will be the complete version. That's what I'm planning on doing since the Switch Version isn't exactly the greatest. I'll get it on PS5

How close are you? Apparently you can carry over 3 demons from your compendium to this one and there's some other bonuses too... but if you're not that far, it's not like save data carries over. And if you plan on playing on a different console that carryover thing doesn't matter anyway.

Thanks for your inputs; I just beat the hydra and then never came back to it (100%ing Xenoblade and Fire Emblem games will do that to a person) so I guess waiting seems more logical

i believe the entire smt franchise & persona franchise share monsters. my friend said that it makes sense lore wise

It's because persona is a spin-off of SMT which is why the enemies are the same. So the monsters in persona originated from this franchise (but more accurate to say mythology)

Glad you asked. Persona is a spinoff of the Shin Megami Tensei Series, though it got so popular that more people know about Persona than the original. In SMT, the Shadows and Personas are called Demons, so people with more experience in the series tend to call them Demons. In 1994, Atlus released a game called Shin Megami Tensei If, which is a “what if” scenario for the first SMT game asking what would happen if a high school was taken into the demon world instead of demons breaking out into the human world, which is what happens in SMT1. In the canon ending, the protagonist and their chosen partner character seal the door to the demon world with the partner and her brother still in the demon world, preventing demons from ever going to the human world again. Demons do manage to get through, but they cannot maintain a physical form most of the time and often need a human to summon them as a part of themselves in order to manifest, creating Shadows and Personas.

if you want you know how SMT and Persona are connected, Persona is a part of an alternate timeline where the nuclear apocalypse of the first SMT game didn't happen

It's Atlus mate there will be a couple of "definitive versions" later on once they milked this one enough

they tried to but ended up just making a straight up au interquel lol

Hey Gladly. ATLUS been supposing the Switch heavily and been getting great results and sales. Now all they waiting on is Switch 2 or Next Nintendo console to release Metaphor and Persona 3

And I dont understand how people can see an 80 hour second campaign with 40 new demons, unique skills for every demon in the game, 5 human party members, a full new daat map, new bosses and quests in every area, new story cutscenes that span whole gane with unique story bosses and its own endings and ask why it isnt dlc, what dlc did you last buy that was 80 hours