From my understanding, Tiamat wasn't actually a ruler of the throne; she predated it entirely, which is why the Qaditsu are using her to return the world to a state of chaos that will let it be reborn without it.

Atum was also mentioned by Abdiel as one of the previous rulers.

A neat fact I found talking to Thoth in Bethyl Egypt, there's a curse on the throne placed by Marduk. It rejects any who bear the divine aspect of the serpent. Atum attempted to take the throne but failed due to this curse, and the divinity as the sun god Ra was passed onto Amun who took the throne. An odd added note Thoth says is that though Amun wasn't a bull god, as a horned god he held the throne for a long time.

@@noodle4542 Since Lilith constantly referred the rulers after Marduk as “Descendants/Lineage of Horned God.” I supposed that the god doe not necessarily needs to be a bull god. Amun’s symbol was ram,and Horns of Amun was also considered symbols of Kingship. In addition,after some extra search,I found out that the cult of Mnevis bull was later assimilated to the cult of Ra,and Ra himself is also believed to assume the form of a ram as setting-sun.

Oh yeah it’s all coming together now

Speaking of which,since Tiamat and Marduk were all gods from Mesopotamian myth,I was also wondering if Kingu was more suitable for the role of “The one who wanted to revive Tiamat” better than the Qadištu,as they are from the Zohar rather than Enuma Elish.

To be fair that was eons ago, so it's natural for us to not see Marduk. We only get a facsimile of Ra in the form of Amon and Khonsu Ra as well. Could be material for a future expansion, though, if they want to go that route. And yeah, apparently Samael and his cohorts summoned the Qadistu from another world entirely.

The Fiends including the Demi-Fiend were implied came from an alternate world as well.

@@viren-ab1063 my bad, totally forgot that Demi-fiend, the fiends and Lucifer are all from Nocturne.

@@kieranray5340 It's not clear if Lucifer came from Nocturne and there's support for the theory he didn't. For now, the interlopers are: -The Fiends except Alice. -Demi-fiend. -The Qadistu. -Dagda and Danu (the one in the quest, not the one Maria turns into if you do Neutral in CoC). -Satan.

Defeat Mastema first

Go into the Empyrean dungeon then warp out, he'll have quests then

Samael is one of my favorites, I liked him in Nocturne, really great boss

It's in your inventory via story means. The quest itself is unlocked when you enter the Empyrean.

@@DMSwordsmaster oh ok

@@DMSwordsmaster thanks

Samael is supposedly the Serpent who made Adam and Eve eat the Forbidden Fruit.

@@onetruesavior69and his name means the venom of god

@kaiserwave5977 He's often identified with the Serpent from Eden and some also identify him with Satan. The name Samael is also sometimes used as another name for the Demiurge too.

Too lazy for a redesign idk

@@onetruesavior69 in smt v he isn't the serpent i dont think, it was lucifer who got humans to eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge.