Shinobi Update! This 2023 look at Shinobi CCTV System Helps show the power of open source!

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=== Timestamps ===
00:00 Beginning
00:09 Introduction to Shinobi
01:48 Thank you to my Patrons at Patreon
02:55 User Interface Overview
03:20 Quick Reminder of iSpy Agent DVR
03:43 Shinobi Live View
04:50 Left Side Navigation
07:40 Live View Layout
08:43 Streams and Local Resource Usage
14:42 Editing Regions for Motion Detection
16:20 Installing Shinobi
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25:21 Post-Installation Setup
29:08 Add a User Account
30:40 Login to Main Site with New User
32:19 ONVIF to Scan for Cameras
33:42 Add a Camera to Shinobi
36:50 Set Up Motion Detection
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@martinboone1043 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your work in open source!

@AwesomeOpenSource Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

@wubster100 Жыл бұрын

Great video thanks for the information!

@AwesomeOpenSource Жыл бұрын

You bet!

@hfislwpa Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video 😊

@AwesomeOpenSource Жыл бұрын

My pleasure.

@leocorreaee 4 ай бұрын

Great video, and thank you for all the info you deliver through your channel. It would be interesting to see a comparison with Frigate NVR.

@AwesomeOpenSource 4 ай бұрын

Let me se what I can put together.

@doodelinux 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing this, Shinobi is amazing and fully customisable too. You can even create a fork of their development branch and install from your own git hub with customised themes. :D

@AwesomeOpenSource 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@friendlymerc7276 Жыл бұрын

I used Shinobi for many years and have recently setup Viseron as my new primary NVR, shinobi is now a backup to it. Viseron is much more basic in terms of features and it uses yaml configuration however it leverages AI person detection via CPU or GPU which makes motion detection far far more accurate, much less junk recordings and much shorter time getting the system tuned as a result

@AwesomeOpenSource Жыл бұрын

I’ll check it out. If it’s open source, I’m definitely interested.

@try-that Жыл бұрын

I did look at Viseron, but that was nearly a year ago and found the documentation was pretty sparse, but after using frigate for a while, yml files are a little easier to use now😀Another bit of software to have a relook at.

@YudhiSetiawan96 Жыл бұрын

Totally agree 👍

@johnwuethrich4196 19 күн бұрын

@@try-that frigate looks slick. I just finished getting my cam (test model)(soon to be cams) stable with Shinobi and then wanted to look at a few hrs of recording. Hit fast forward only to get a message about how I need to pay to do that. Fuck that I just put in hrs trying to make their shit stable only to be told I should pay for a wrapper/interface to allow open source players to fast forward? Fuck Shinobi. Grabbed blueiris as a quick comparison. It just boom worked. Frigates going to be what I try next. Not alegic to paying but having used Shinobi 5 years ago and then setting it up again last week... 0 has improved over 5 years. But now for the same half baked open source wrapper they want a monthly income lol...nah

@DavidDavisL Жыл бұрын

The best option almost always includes a measure of personal preferences. I have tried ZoneMinder, Shinobi, and Frigate. Currently using Frigate and have been satisfied overall. Using a Coral TPU device helps quite a bit with reducing detection processing demands. Frigate can also leverage quicksync for intel cpu's that provide that capability.

@AwesomeOpenSource Жыл бұрын

I’m planning a frigate update this summer.

@caioguibr Жыл бұрын

Just commented about that. Can you say something about hardware specs to start using Google coral ? In your experience?

@salabur Жыл бұрын

@@caioguibr I use it on a Pi4b@1.9GHz. frigate is working just fine on this hardware with 4 cams and some other docker containers. Regarding the coral for detection I never had to touch it since I installed it with a powered usb-hub.

@DavidDavisL Жыл бұрын

@@caioguibr I think the main thing you want to do is make sure to plug in the Coral USB to a 3.0 port (the USB Coral is all I have experience with). My system is using a 12th gen intel i7 and 32GB of memory, but my understanding is that the Coral can be used successfully on a raspberry pi. Finding one is finally getting easier with supply chain issues improving. Just follow the frigate documentation for the configuration and you should be up and running pretty quickly.

@bhthllj 8 ай бұрын

Hello! have you tried PTZ cameras with frigate? If so, how was your experience? EDIT: I just checked out the author`s github repo, and as of mid 2022, they don't support PTZ cams. I didn't delete my comment just to share this information.

@RacelifeCo Жыл бұрын

My reolink cams streak when I'm trying to pull the same feed into two different servers.

@AwesomeOpenSource Жыл бұрын

I see this occasionally, but I don’t know that it has anything to do with number of servers.

@RacelifeCo Жыл бұрын

@@AwesomeOpenSource I guess I should clarify... I'm using a couple of older real link cameras and one of them will start to smear occasionally. But if I try pulling two high def feeds from two different servers it will guarantee smears frequently. I'm using zoneminder and tried to use a second zoneminder for high def backups and every time I connected the second one the smears became frequent

@t0d0r Жыл бұрын

I didn't hear you mention Frigate, seeing that you use HomeAssistant and it has a nice integration. Have you tried it?

@AwesomeOpenSource Жыл бұрын

I mentioned it toward the end, but planning on an update on it this summer.

@marc3793 8 ай бұрын

Hey. Just thought I'd mention that you have something that looks like a password in your search bar for a good portion of the video. Just letting you know in case it is / you haven't changed it already.

@AwesomeOpenSource 8 ай бұрын

Yeah, that was a password for a camera. I changed it a while back now, but they also only run on my home (local network). I appreciate you letting me know though.

@mikedien3609 2 ай бұрын

amazing video. i just wonder, since we both use reolink cams with shinobi, i use 4x reolink e1 outdoor pro 8k cams, how you are able to select "hls stream" in the stream section of the monitor. i have to choose mjpeg there, to get a video picture. when i use hls i see nothing. even when i wait 10min. so without hls i dont get audio recorded. thats kinda strange...

@AwesomeOpenSource 2 ай бұрын

Not sure. I don't use 8k cameras...so maybe that's an issue...with scaling for the monitor?

@mikedien3609 2 ай бұрын

@@AwesomeOpenSource naa, that was just misstyping, not 8k cams, just 8MP Megapixel, i use the reolink e1 outdoor pro 4k cams. but still no cam pictures on shinobi dasboard when using hls... when using mjpeg is no problem...

@marcosramirez1625 6 ай бұрын

Can I connect an Onvif camera through the public IP? from the modem, of course forwarding ports from wan to lan to the tapo camera

@AwesomeOpenSource 6 ай бұрын

I don't think so. I think you'd be better to use a VPN to connect to cameras outside your network.

@cjlowe1650 9 ай бұрын

What pc or setup are you running on? I plan on using a Pi 4. 8gb. Probably 4 rtsp cameras

@AwesomeOpenSource 9 ай бұрын

I ran it on an LXC container. I thinkn I gave it 8GB RAM, not that it needs that much, but make sure to setup the main stream for recording in higher definition, and if available, the sub-stream for viewing. Makes a huge difference in resource usage.

@ArizerExtreme 2 ай бұрын

hi, is camera trigger options better than before? thanks

@AwesomeOpenSource 2 ай бұрын

They were about as I remembered, a bit wonky to tune, but good once you get them set properly.

@PaulGJanzen 9 ай бұрын

Hi, I have a question. I followed your instructions and installed it on Proxmox as a CT, and everything is working fine. But I did make my disk too small and then decided to increase it in Proxmox, but the Shinobi server does not recognize it. Do you have any suggestion?

@AwesomeOpenSource 9 ай бұрын

I've done similar things. Make sure that the Container recognizes not just the increased disk size, but that the partition is also resized. The application really reads the partition, and I've found Proxmox doesn't handle the resizing of a partition, but you have to do that from within the CT or VM OS. Hopefully that will help.

@LuisMartinez-ge1bi 6 ай бұрын

Is there anyway to access Shinobi remotely? Is that possible with any NVR?

@AwesomeOpenSource 6 ай бұрын

Sure. You can create a VPN and use that for the most secure way to keep your surveillance streams safe. You can, alternatively, use a reverse proxy and give your shinobi server a fully qualified public domian name (like "myvids.mysuperdomain.org"). OF course use https for this only.

@caioguibr Жыл бұрын

I found one named frigate with facial recognition accelerated by google coral USB thumb ia acceleration..

@AwesomeOpenSource Жыл бұрын

Frigate is pretty nice. I’ll do an update video on it this summer as well.

@SlyNine 6 ай бұрын

Wish you would have clarified how to create the images. Lost me on that unfortunately.

@AwesomeOpenSource 6 ай бұрын

When you say create the images, what do you mean? The images that docker pulls down come from dockerhub, and are already created. The image is then used by docker to start a container for Shinobi. If you need more help, jump over to discuss.opensourceisawesome.com and post in the #help-me-please channel.

@jasim17 2 ай бұрын

can i use shinobi in reactjs or react native if yes then how is there any video on this topic.. if anyone read this comment and know how to integrate shinobi with react and react native pls reply me with links thanks in advance..

@AwesomeOpenSource 2 ай бұрын

Shinobi makes a mobile app, but as far as I know it's not open source, and a pay only app.

@nivedm6234 23 күн бұрын

Sir, now I am encountering another issue: unable to connect the inbuild object detection in shinobi. I have installed the object detection plugin in the super user panel, but it is still showing not connected in the object detection session in the main dashboard. Please help sir it is an urgent situation.

@christopherklein3829 Жыл бұрын

Shinobi vs Frigate? Coral support?

@try-that Жыл бұрын

Last time I used Shinobi and keep an eye on the forums,. I found that it worked with the coral, but nowhere near as good as with frigate. I also found the author didn't seem that interested with frigate or object detection. I see shinobi is now using the new dashboard so will have to take a relook.

@AwesomeOpenSource Жыл бұрын

Don't have a TPU to test with, but I believe you can use it with Shinobi now. For sure, you can use ti with Frigate for improved performance.

@mdobaidullahal-faruk3457 3 ай бұрын

Hi, I have a query. Is it a VMS system? Actually, I'm finding it difficult to distinguish this with VMS

@AwesomeOpenSource 3 ай бұрын

Is VMS (Video Management System)?

@mdobaidullahal-faruk3457 3 ай бұрын

@@AwesomeOpenSource Yes. Video Management System

@AwesomeOpenSource 3 ай бұрын

Not really, no. It's for security / surveillance cameras.

@johnwuethrich4196 20 күн бұрын

as far as i can see they want $60 a year to enable the button to play back at more than 1x speed. Someone should do a video on how shinobi became a cash grab. I can see paying for a lot of things (like object or even motion detection). but holy crap ill screen record my grid streamed through vlc before i pay someone for the ability to playback a video at 2x speed in 2024. If shinobi nvr cant show me basic required functions work with out my wallet theres no reason to belive they will with. Or that more advanced things work. For all i know it helps hide the fact that the video drops 10 min into the 15 min file. It takes a lot to get cameras stable and not burning up all your cpu. Sort of enrages me that i put all that effort to maybe have some stability but after hrs of tinkering i find shinobi nvr has become a cash grab masqurading as open source. kinda gross. off to delete the container.

@AwesomeOpenSource 16 күн бұрын

Yeah, not super great ways for them to monetize for sure.

@cjlowe1650 9 ай бұрын

Also installing on 2tb SSD NVMe

@AwesomeOpenSource 9 ай бұрын

Nice.

@johnwuethrich4196 12 күн бұрын

Sounds like a waste for cameras

@cjlowe1650 12 күн бұрын

@johnwuethrich4196 why a waste of cameras? What do you use your pizero 2w and cameras for? The cameras and shinobi are lightning fast running under dietpi.

@nivedm6234 Ай бұрын

Sir, we have connected our camera through ONVIF but there is a problem arising. The streaming is showing died randomly after sometime, what might be the problem? How can we solve this issue

@AwesomeOpenSource Ай бұрын

Onvif tries to pull the right information, but sometimes it's better to look up the RTSP stream URL from the manufacturer. Make sure the firmware of the camera is up to date, etc.

@nivedm6234 23 күн бұрын

@@AwesomeOpenSource Thankyou sir the issue is solved.

@mr.boniato6402 Ай бұрын

How does this compare to Blue Iris?

@AwesomeOpenSource Ай бұрын

Never usedBlue Iris, as it's closed source, so can't say.

@mr.boniato6402 Ай бұрын

@@AwesomeOpenSource How many cameras does this support at once...does it support sub streams? - is there an app for it to view the cameras on smartphones?

@alabamathunder2891 6 ай бұрын

Can't say I'm a fan of Shinobi. I have reasons. The developer seems to have a chip on his shoulder. I watched him just totally rip apart some guy over on Reddit, then ban him. I did my own research, and then I found there was some truth to what was said. The docker setup isn't great on following some best practices, makes it hard to know if it is secure. For example, no prod branch, only develop, and the MySQL is baked into the Shinobi image rather than kept separate. I would have liked to use a separate MySQL server, not use defaults with a blank password. It just takes a little more trouble than it's worth, IMHO. I'm trying Viseron, Frigate. I really need a dedicated box, no matter what I'm using, because it's hard to pack in GPU acceleration in rack servers (PSU - no 6-12 pin aux connector).

@AwesomeOpenSource 6 ай бұрын

Totally understand. Doesn't sound specifically like it's the software that's the issue, bugt the project lead, which is a shame. I would also like to see the docker version without the MySQL db included, or at least more configurable, but that's the great thing about open source. We can change it if we want to, or put out a bounty to have it changed by someone else, and really kind of do whatever we feel is best.

@AM93000 Жыл бұрын

Did you get paid by Shinobi to make this video? Shinobi is not free to some extent

@AwesomeOpenSource Жыл бұрын

I did not. And I speak about the costs portion. It’s not a requirement to use it. As far as I know I’ve never even been in contact with Shinobi.

@MrDave9111 2 ай бұрын

Shinobi is NOT free. There is a free, open source version, but its 4+ years old and it has issues. I have no idea why you are reviewing this as it is NOT OPEN SOURCE. I recently tried to "upgrade" to the newer software and was willing to buy a license, I entered my card info and all of that and then nothing. I couldn't get my license and that was the end of that. If they can't collect my money without screwups, I'm not going with the paid version which is really the only option. If you don't have a license, certain things are disabled. But they don't tell you exactly what is disabled, so is it not working due to your config or due to items being disabled due to licensing issues. I'm done with this. I am willing to pay $5 per month per machine, but this software is getting worse, not better. So Shinobi is no longer open source. I can't pay for a license and I HATE the new interface. Can it get any busier? How about tabs. Not one giant long list of everything I could possibly choose. The interface sucks. Its extensive, and it sucks. And I'm a programmer used to very complex interfaces. I tried Motioneye and its interface is much cleaner than Shinobi. But it is no longer being developed and its motion detection is like Shinobi. Everything sets it off. I don't need video of grass blowing around. My next attempt will be Frigate and if it looks even reasonable, I will add a Coral USB accelerator ($74) and give that a go. I'm really looking for people and animals. Everything else I can ignore.

@AwesomeOpenSource 2 ай бұрын

This is a fairly old video now. But yes, they have a non-permissive license for sure. They have moved to Gitlab, so maybe you're looking at their old repo for the source. As for the paid licenses, I just don't know. The good news is there are some really great alternatives out there now like Viseron, Frigate, and ZoneMinder is still really powerful; and that's just to name a few.