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SHIPS OVER THE HORIZON - GLOBE EARTH

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Plane Simple

Plane Simple

Күн бұрын

This is a demonstration of the globe earth. The fact that the horizon curves down in all directions away from you like in a sphere, because the earth is a sphere, almost a perfect one.
In this case I try to capture two ships in the distance to compare how much of one is visible versus the other. One ship is closer, and the other is further away.
Also in this video is a very late sunset (around 11:00pm) off the coast of Alaska. Such a late sunset is only possible in a spherical earth, not in a flat one....But I'm sure you already knew that.

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@antonipeters2333
@antonipeters2333 3 ай бұрын
Comparing the 2 ships is not proof: Were they both full? Were they both empty? Was one full and the other empty? Were they the same size/design ship ? The real test is to film a ship going out to sea, preferably diagonally to the shore line (point of observation). It helps if it a calm clear day to maximize resolution/minimize haze at distance. As the ship approaches the horizon it becomes harder to see clearly. Now magnify and the ship will come back into view. Look closely at the waterline. You are not able to see it directly because of the optical noise close to the horizon at distance. However if the hull is brightly painted, you will be able to see the mirror image of the ship below the waterline. At this point if the surface of the water is still enough, you will see a region across the horizon line that is indistiguishable between the image of the hull and its mirror image below the water line. In between is the horizon line which due to shimmering cannot be focused on. The hull looks thin but it is just that you can't see the bottom of the hull because by this point it is beyond the vanishing point. Same for its mirror image (or mirage) off the water surface. But with increasing magnification it can still be brought into view. However, this cannot go on indefinitely because at a certain distance, regardless of level of magnification, there is simply too much material (air/water vapor) above the water surface (the column of air that is in the way of your optical path, ie the path light takes to get from the object (ship) to your eye or camera/detector. So there are diminishing returns in the ability of optics to resolve distant objects , but they can be viewed to great distances, especially using infrared, which is less hampered by atmospheric influences like haze. I am not saying it is one way or another for sure, but there are as many "holes" in either model. They are just not the same holes! And your video proves nothing unequivocally. Particularly, without controls, this is simply an interesting observation but certainly not the best that I have seen, by a long-shot!
@planesimple8514
@planesimple8514 3 ай бұрын
Hello Antonipeters. Thank you for taking the time to write such a methodically written and we'll explained observation. You are absolutely correct in every observation you made and I love this critique. You took the time to pick apart this video but in a very respectful manner. I appreciate that very much and I'll accept and welcome any criticism like yours any day. Originally when I first saw the two ships their positions were better suited to show the effect, but by the time I got my phone and the telescope their relative positions had changed enough to be far less than ideal. The equipment I was using was a cellphone and a cheap, low quality, compact travel telescope. Far from ideal of a set up. I am aware of the lack of control of all other variables, but at the time it seemed like a good enough opportunity to illustrate the point, although not very scientifically. Again, thank you for keeping the critique respectful and for adding much needed clarifications to this video. I wish more people would take the time to read comments like yours. Welcome to Plane Simple.
@ReddNashe
@ReddNashe 2 ай бұрын
So hilarious to me that people run out of zoom and that tells them water is curving. Hilarious
@planesimple8514
@planesimple8514 2 ай бұрын
If you believe Earth to be flat, would you mind explaining how a flat earth works? I'm not being sarcastic, I'd like to hear an honest opinion from the other side.
@john2k24
@john2k24 2 ай бұрын
@@planesimple8514my biggest question is how does a flat earther explain seasons, and amount of day light times etc. I’m sure there’s some convoluted explanation haha
@jaymorris3468
@jaymorris3468 11 ай бұрын
Mmm, I must gave a different type of telescope
@planesimple8514
@planesimple8514 11 ай бұрын
Hi Jaymorris , what do you mean?
@planereality3675
@planereality3675 Ай бұрын
All it's proof of is that the horizon hides objects beyond it. Cool, Who cares. How far is that horizon on that day? You don't even know how far the ships were let alone how far the horizon is.
@planesimple8514
@planesimple8514 Ай бұрын
Hello. Please explain how does the horizon "hide" objects?
@magrietdutoit689
@magrietdutoit689 Жыл бұрын
Hey brother....it you take the the supposed curvature of the earth into account (witch you sould have done to prove the theory you believe in, of a ball earth) those ships that you use to prove your point, should have been "over the curve" by then, completely gone from you sight.....so you are actually disproving a round earth. Thank you for that😂
@nordnic4572
@nordnic4572 Жыл бұрын
which witch made you so dull? Here's a guy using a better camera and time lapse, this dude used his phone. His main point was the sun setting at 11 pm since he lives higher up on the ball. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nbunqdhhvLbVaIk.html
@planesimple8514
@planesimple8514 Жыл бұрын
In the video I did not state how far either ship was. Obviously neither one was far enough to be out of my line of sight. Otherwise it would not be visible. But since one was farther than the other, you could start to see a bit of one being covered by the water between me and it. That would not happen in a flat Earth. That was the point. Also, the second point about the longer days and the late sunset, which also would only happen in a round earth, not in a flat one. How would you explain the Sun dipping below the horizon in a flat Earth? Anyway, once you believe in a certain idea, it's very hard to be convinced of any other way. You can always selectively interpret whatever data comes your way in a way that supports your existing beliefs. So if you want to take my video as "proof" of your beliefs, you are welcome to. Just do it in a respectful manner. Keep asking questions and draw your conclusions. Try not to start with the conclusion and then find evidence to support it.
@planesimple8514
@planesimple8514 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the support, and yes, my means of recording the video are VERY rudimentary. The goal of the video was to present the concepts, not the production value of the video itself. Thank you for understanding that. Let's try to keep the comments respectful since everyone has their own opinion and they have a right to it. We can certainly have educational debates here and try to present ideas. Hopefully we can educate and debate, not fight. Anyway, welcome to Plane Simple.
@glendahuntoon4110
@glendahuntoon4110 11 ай бұрын
My question is! What are the schematics of the ships. You are viewing two different ships and two different distances. Just for argument's sake. What if the hulls were designed differently?
@planesimple8514
@planesimple8514 11 ай бұрын
@glendahuntoon4110 That is a very valid point and a good observation. Taking into account that the ships are different, then my video is not a very good example since it does not control for the different hulls. However, this entire video is unnecessary and redundant because it is trying to illustrate something that is already a fact of nature, even if my video is not very scientifically rigorous. There are far better videos out there that show this phenomenon. Also, if what you are looking for is evidence of a round earth vs. a flat one, there are plenty of other techniques that you can experiment with. It just happens to be that following an object to watch it dió over the horizon is something easy to do at any time from anywhere. Anyway, sorry for the long response. Good job for taking into consideration the different hulls, that is very good thinking and a very valid point.
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