Shirogorov F3 vs. F3R -- Knife Comparison!

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Doctor Frunkey

Doctor Frunkey

6 жыл бұрын

Comparing the regular production Shirogorov F3 with the F3R. Upgrades to the blades, the steel, the bearings, the handles, and the clips all amount to a noticeable improvement in all aspects of the knife. But is it worth $250? That depends...
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@MattH-wg7ou
@MattH-wg7ou 4 жыл бұрын
God dang I need an F3R with those copper laced scales!
@jonduncansakurawallknifegarden
@jonduncansakurawallknifegarden 2 жыл бұрын
I miss the docs videos. I used to live almost completely off of dr frunkey, Jt’s knife life, and Eugene Kwon, all who have stopped making videos today. We miss you guys. But I hope all is well.
@slidetek
@slidetek 6 жыл бұрын
To be fair, the $250 comparison would be between the G10 F3 and awesome CF F3R. The gorgeous micarta version F3R is $100 less than the CF. So they're pretty darned close. A lot of knives get close to a Shiro, both less and more expensive. The Porsche analogy is perfect though - there's only one rear engine flat 6 that can smoke Italian 12 cylinders or American iron and still use as a daily commuter. You didn't mention the clips though!
@DoctorFrunkey
@DoctorFrunkey 6 жыл бұрын
I did mention the clips!! 08:53 This is a spectacular knife, but the price is a bit high. Like the 911T, awesome costs money.
@kevinlynch3588
@kevinlynch3588 6 жыл бұрын
The M390 isn't flat on top, just got one from Recon1, still jimping and a different cutout than yours. I like the F3 clip better.
@DoctorFrunkey
@DoctorFrunkey 6 жыл бұрын
Kevin Lynch cool! I couldn't remember perfectly as I was saying it. Thanks for clarifying!
@nupersoob
@nupersoob 6 жыл бұрын
The audio signature of the Shiro actions are always so satisfying. It's like an ear massage
@RobertDavis-bh1hf
@RobertDavis-bh1hf 6 жыл бұрын
The loss of 1/2 ounce is what I like the most about the new version.Like you said you feel the difference.Thanks for another great video.
@frankbutta9344
@frankbutta9344 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice knives! I like the action on the new knife, but wonder if the milled out liners will collect more lint. I’ve been using can of compressed air on my knives lately, especially those with bearings(!!!!). Thanks for sharing these great looking knives!
@chrisw3249
@chrisw3249 6 жыл бұрын
~27% more, is it worth it? To me (& you!) yes it is, to some it will be considered a obscene amount of money! For whatever reason it is not considered a plus point with some if you can afford something they can't, you handle the financial side ok, price is obviously a very important factor when buying a knife, we all have different price points we are comfortable with, don't feel guilty! continue with the great reviews.
@DoctorFrunkey
@DoctorFrunkey 6 жыл бұрын
Chris Wood thank you. I try not to be a jerk about cost. It will be prohibitive to some.
@nooneknows5390
@nooneknows5390 6 жыл бұрын
Dr. Frunkey your taste in knives excellent.
@mchef117
@mchef117 6 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@DoctorFrunkey
@DoctorFrunkey 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@nickkazarian3334
@nickkazarian3334 6 жыл бұрын
What a stunning pair! You have great taste. 👍
@DoctorFrunkey
@DoctorFrunkey 6 жыл бұрын
Nick Kaz thank you my friend
@tacticalcenter8658
@tacticalcenter8658 6 жыл бұрын
There is a new Vanax that just came out last year. its just called Vanax now. its even better than the other variants now. but it requires more advanced heat treatment. i have knives on single row bearings that drop shut easy. MRBS doesnt make that difference ultimately. thats more about the complete design of the knife but primarily detent. i mean take for example the single row bearing Grimsmo's.
@totschopper
@totschopper 6 жыл бұрын
I've always wanted a neon but these shiro frame/liner locks are looking miles ahead of the neon in tech
@earlyx1225
@earlyx1225 6 жыл бұрын
YOU are a bad influence on me! Luckily I don’t have enough cash that it makes any difference. I enjoy these videos
@DoctorFrunkey
@DoctorFrunkey 6 жыл бұрын
Kerry Johnston buhuhahaha 😈😈
@picnicsinspace198
@picnicsinspace198 5 жыл бұрын
would you be willing to sell one or know of one
@don0giorgio
@don0giorgio 6 жыл бұрын
Damn, thats a lot of money
@DoctorFrunkey
@DoctorFrunkey 6 жыл бұрын
don0giorgio you are correct.
@oromoto
@oromoto 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice!!
@TheStabbyCyclist
@TheStabbyCyclist 6 жыл бұрын
Now you just need a Custom Division F3 with the SRRBS so we can see how that compares.
@asphyxiate14
@asphyxiate14 6 жыл бұрын
One question. Did you see a difference in action when you added the new copper dust c.f. scales into the older one. It just seemed like the first time you showcased the knife it pretty much had the same action as the newer model when it still had the stock g10 scales. Maybe I'm wrong. Both are beautiful either way. Nice vid!
@DoctorFrunkey
@DoctorFrunkey 6 жыл бұрын
Asphyxiate14 the action improved dramatically on the older one when I added the titanium backspacer. The action on the MRBS is improved.
@andrewemerson9319
@andrewemerson9319 6 жыл бұрын
All shiro’s are super smooth. The attention to detail is in a league of its own. In my top 3 of favorite knife makers which they all put up a heck of fight for the #1. How do you compare a shiro to your Koenig as far as fit and finish?
@DoctorFrunkey
@DoctorFrunkey 6 жыл бұрын
Nice comment. I think they are similar, but Koenig is a MUCH newer maker. The Shiro is more refined right now, but Bill is rapidly evolving his Arius, including internal milling that was just introduced.
@slidetek
@slidetek 6 жыл бұрын
Andrew Emerson: I'll just butt in here, I don't have a CF Koenig, just a Ti (used to have a Gen1 as well). But I've handled the CF version which is pretty similar weight aside. It's hard to compare directly when they're not liner knives as that's where fit and finish (or lack of) are really noticeable IMHO. The Gen 1 (Millit built) was noticeably less well finished than the Koenig built Arius. The Arius is excellent, but there's a slight lack of detailing compared to the shiro. Such as the smooth clean hardware. The Arius just has Torx screws and that "D" pivot. So, win goes to Shiro if that's the deciding factor.
@DoctorFrunkey
@DoctorFrunkey 6 жыл бұрын
slidetek nailed it
@Teethingpains
@Teethingpains 6 жыл бұрын
Nice vid as always, Doc 👍🏼. Given that the blade weights must be pretty close on both the versions, how does the milling on the F3R affect the balance? The F3 is the liner lock version of the F95, if I am not wrong, and my experience with the F95 is that it’s a fairly heavy blade needing weight at the rear to achieve the balance in hand.
@DoctorFrunkey
@DoctorFrunkey 6 жыл бұрын
Ankur Sureka I would say the balance is handle heavy on the F3 but quite well balanced in the F3R
@totschopper
@totschopper 6 жыл бұрын
How much smoother is it?im looking at an f3 on bladeforums right now!?quick!
@kerryrwac
@kerryrwac 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not even going to convert that to Canadian pesos . Show us pictures of the roller bearing Shiros since thats what you're rolling towards :P
@brandonryan6050
@brandonryan6050 5 жыл бұрын
Which Shirogorov should I get if I want all titanium version? Thanks love your channel.
@DoctorFrunkey
@DoctorFrunkey 5 жыл бұрын
Get a variant of the F95 or the NeOn.
@brandoneklund
@brandoneklund 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!👍🏻
@elmanhrvacic5949
@elmanhrvacic5949 6 жыл бұрын
Do you find f3 too thick im not sure what shirogorov to get f95 Haiti or f3 ... can't afford all so which one do you prefer?
@DoctorFrunkey
@DoctorFrunkey 6 жыл бұрын
Thickness is not really an issue for me, but the F3 is significantly thicker than F95.
@RobertDavis-bh1hf
@RobertDavis-bh1hf 5 жыл бұрын
I hesitated on the f3 because of the thickness.I prefer thinner knives but the f3 is so comfortable that the thickness is negligible.
@totschopper
@totschopper 6 жыл бұрын
Have you considered my proposal?😬😂😂😂😂🤣🤣 I'm waiting for a neon to pop up on recon1
@SuperArtarded
@SuperArtarded 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty nice for a Chinese knife
@DoctorFrunkey
@DoctorFrunkey 6 жыл бұрын
SuperArtarded there it is
@tacticalcenter8658
@tacticalcenter8658 6 жыл бұрын
you dumb*** its not a Chinese knife at all. back it up otherwise you are foolish.
@SuperArtarded
@SuperArtarded 6 жыл бұрын
@Tactical Moron, It's called a joke.
@kevinlynch3588
@kevinlynch3588 6 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you like the Sigma?
@Keith_the_knife_freak
@Keith_the_knife_freak 6 жыл бұрын
I can see the value for the extra money... but ugh. Im not a Dr... how about the rat 2 in d2... 😂😂😂😁😁😁😂
@DoctorFrunkey
@DoctorFrunkey 6 жыл бұрын
That's why I share these videos, so everyone can enjoy!
@Keith_the_knife_freak
@Keith_the_knife_freak 6 жыл бұрын
Doctor Frunkey thank you!! Can i borrow it for a few weeks to try it out...I'll pay all shipping charges
@itsme5279
@itsme5279 6 жыл бұрын
👊🏽🗡
@SilverStackers
@SilverStackers 6 жыл бұрын
not worth the money. for $900 i would want a hand rubbed finish and better looking hardware. the shape may be well thought out, but the execution is lazy.
@DoctorFrunkey
@DoctorFrunkey 6 жыл бұрын
alfred rodriguez I think you are missing some of the details here. Get one in hand and I think you'll agree the level of fit finish and detail all are present.
@SilverStackers
@SilverStackers 6 жыл бұрын
no doubt fit and finish are spot on. my point is the execution is lazy. stone wash blade, easy to machine hardware. no challenging productions steps were dont to make this knife truly great. i believe a great knife will have all these boxes check marked.
@19471919
@19471919 6 жыл бұрын
OMG...you could of bought a nice transportation beater for the money spent on these!! Insanity insanity
@totschopper
@totschopper 6 жыл бұрын
Mike M he's a brain surgeon.im sure he has a porshe
@19471919
@19471919 6 жыл бұрын
Jay c THEN...give it to someone less fortunate who NEEDS a transportation vehicle!
@totschopper
@totschopper 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe you can persuade dr.fronk to buy car for for someone?.......
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