First, dutch government must do official apologize for hundred years of their colonization/occupation to indonesian people.

@@alifoemry5217 That seems fair. The Dutch government represents the Dutch state and what it did in the past so it seems correct that it apologise for past injustices committed by the Netherlands - as should other former colonising countries. I hope the Netherlands has done this? Dutch people today should try to be aware of their country's past. Thank you! P.S. I have liked your comment.

@@robinsen8858 Yes, Dutch government apologize for 1940's killing not apologize for hundred years of colonization/occupation (by dutch kingdom and VOC). But what people dont realize, so manny native indonesia was dead in hundred years history of dutch colonization. We dont ask money for that just apologize for hundred years of colonization history. I dont know why your government dont do that apologize but for me its like politic diplomacy, maybe? And as indonesian i can said.. generally indonesian new generation (specially educated) dont have hate to duch people.. Maybe you can discuss my question with your friend. www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-24060913 Note : i have liked your comment too cause i respect your manner. Thank you..

@@alifoemry5217 Again thank you for the information and also for the article link. By the way I am not Dutch, but British with some Indian ancestry, so I do understand the need for former colonising countries to apologise and try to make up for the past actions of their countries (by compensation or by acting together wirh the former occupied country). I also agree with you the importance of young people in the former colonies being aware of their history including that part of their history when they were colonised, and not to simply dislike the former coloniser but to make it aware of its previous actions and work to improve the relations between the countries and people. I think that one of the things that impressed me about the elderly Dutch man in the video going back to Indonesia was that rather than pretending that these things didn't happen he acknowledged them. Most people in Europe don't know and don't want to know about their colonial past. It's simpler for them to profit from the wealth it gave to their countries, and forget about where that wealth came from. It is important to make them aware of it, but then also make them feel they can do something to correct this part of their history, for example Dutch people to be interested in and to appreciate Indonesia). Love and respect to Indonesia!

@@robinsen8858 You're welcome.. wow british with india ancestry, wonderfull. Love and respect to british and india. Godbless you my friend 🙏

May he Rust in Peace

That was not a rebellion againts any other nations. Indonesia had already announced its independence day, before Dutch Army landed again on Java Island. We were already got our freedom.

tara bagyo I’m not going to argue semantics or who was right or who was wrong. I was simply sharing the effect that war had on one of its participants.

Anaphalis Javanica Apparently you didn’t read my last post very closely.

Srry buddy but u r father was an asshole all imperialists are

My apologies, and thank you.

In the Netherlands, they don't teach much about the 'policing actions' in Indonesia because the dutch government thinks that they are so very gentle and did not ever do anything wrong in that conflict, moreover, it was supported by the fake royal family, they were afraid that would lose their economic interests and freebies out of that Indonesia. I am born in the Netherlands but I don't have anything up with that country their government or the so-called royal family, they are are all cowards in their own mind.

@@peterjanrouw2805 No, they only talk about the Dutch and japanese war crimes and forget everything else. There happened more there. They should have told the whole story including the cruel colonial conquests, the suppressing colonial system, the bersiap, the "politionele acties" and the supressing Indonesian annexation of the RMS and Moluks. Do the same with Suriname in the West. History is not about guilt. It is about what happened. The guild should be in the interpretation.

@@Treinbouwer We are not only talking about the history of the Dutch and Japanese colonialism, even more dark tragedies what we learned and know compared to what you call the G30SPKI tragedy, the Santa cruz tragedy, and many other dark tragedies, but I don't agree on one thing about RMS because they are rebels who are influenced by the Dutch, but why do we Indonesians often discuss The Dutch in our history books because the Dutch colonized Indonesia (the archipelago) for 300 years, because at that time we lived under pressure, a caste system that burdened the natives, forced cultivation, forced labor, exploitation of natural resources, trade monopoly (VOC), annexation, genocide ( Westerling and many others), all the relics of our ancestors were taken (until now you can see many relics of Majapahit and Sriwijaya in the European and American museums as evidence of the plundering ever happened) and many more things that I can't convey here because it's too sadistic , what do you think after knowing so many terrible tragedies happened in Indonesia, even after we became independent we forced to pay VOC debts (Dutch companies), you have to read from both sides of history to find a common thread from history, of course we know Indonesia is not a good country that doesn't have a dark history, if we talk about dark history of course all countries have it, but of course We will not forget the hundreds of years of colonialism by the Dutch, which until now there has been no compensation for war by the Dutch, unlike Japan, which immediately admitted defeat and gave compensation in the form of money, educational infrastructure and the economy, but now we do not hate your country, that all past history, I also don't agree with war crimes committed by Indonesia, studying history for a better future, and I am also very grateful for the arrival of the Dutch, our Indonesian people, consisting of various tribes, races, and religions, unite for the same enemy namely the Netherlands, and pledged together with the Sumpah Pemuda (Youth Pledge) consisting of Jong Java, Jong Sumatranen Bond, Jong Bataks Bond, Jong Islamieten Bond, Indonesian Youth, Jong Celebes, Jong Ambon (moluccan), Katholikee Jongelingen Bond, Betawi Youth, Sekar Rukun and many more, to establish a country, namely Indonesia, sorry for my English bad because I use google translate.

@@Treinbouwer bruh same goes with us they literally only teach us about the dutch colonization

@Megalodon Unlocked we don't hate the Germans😂

@@nusavandenboogaart4971 😂 lmao

Past is past but as a muslim country u would also know that dutch today hate muslims, difference today from then is that they today use indo people by educated people and take them to west with money or use them as traitors. Do not forget your past, i hope my indo brothers and sisters will wake up and make indonesia more prouder without western involvment insallah.

Osmanli Turan and you still use youtube and facebook, twitter..whatsup..microsoft that make by infidel???...lol

Andre Retel I think what was experienced was that the Dutch were a far better trade off than Japanese occupation

Nathan Robinson you are right. Both my grandfathers died in Japanese concentration camps during the war. It was a terrible time from the stories I have been told by my family.

Andre R They were tricked and bought the propaganda of the time. Sadly, for many.

Kturunan penjajah

@@khairulfuad1985 Don't be rude. I'm Indonesian btw

Gillbert Nightray biarlah mereka menghina toh segala sesuatu di catat sama gusti Allah, di hari pembalasan nanti juga mereka tanggung sendiri. Ngapain kita susah" menghakimi tuh yg lebih berhak menjadi hakim nya gusti Allah. Kekerasan tak perlu di balas kekerasan. Saat ini jaga lisan, jaga hati dll agar kita selamat dunia akhirat

Tp kalo kita di katain bilang aja " lu tainya"

oki haykal No, after they broke my grandfather arms with hammer, hell no !!

Still my apologies -Dutch person

@@af8915 Did they really do that ??

Setuju banget bung!

ikr! thank you

andri rianto Agree

andri rianto I agree with you, as an Indonesian I'll tell you all that Indonesian people offcourse not forget all the victim of our Indepence war, many monumen had been built to commemorate their sacriface but now we wellcome for you all if visited our country

lupakan masa lalu kata lo? tdk menghargai pahlawan sama sekali kau melupakan masa lalu... bangsat pula kau ni.. kalau pahlawan masih hidup pasti mulut lo sudah hancur kena RPG...

Mohamad Hasan I don't understand the point you are trying to make? Wilders is an idiot with a few loose screws in his head. But I doubt he doesn't know anything about Indo-Dutch history. He's part Indonesian himself..

Good to know he is not that popular in Holland. I guess it's the US and UK media that promotes him to attack Islam.

Mohamad Hasan He's popular with a certain kind of people in the Netherlands. They are a minority, but sadly a loud minority. He does attack Islam a lot, that's his 'thing'. It gets him a lot of exposure and votes. Sometimes he has a valid point, sometimes he does not. But it's the way in which he makes those points that turns a lot of people off. He's often very offensive and rude. Everyone is allowed an opinion, but you don't have to be a dick about it.

Mohamad Hasan Hubungannya sama wilder apaan tong? Gak usah bawa sentimen keagamaan lu.

Kamsyah Hadeh, nyamber aje lu cil. Lu aja masih pada bingung ngartiin arti kata church, mau ngajakin debat agama lagi. Hubungannya sama Wilder tuh, bangsanya die dulu menjajah Indo di era kolonialisme. Mayoritas org Belanda ga ada yang tau cerita sesungguhnya. Sekarang malah mereka nuduh Muslim yang nggak-nggak. Kasian Muslim (sebagai minoritas) di Eropa yang gak tau apa-apa tentang situasi politik yang terjadi di timur tengah.

It is what the Romans (Ancient Italy ) already concluded in the beginning of recorded history: "Homo homini lupus est !"( Man is a wolf to mankind ). This doesn't mean that I approve the actions and crimes commited by the Dutch occupationforce.

We agree that. We are sorry - a Dutch person

Still my apologies for our cruelty

@puput.....kamu anak gundik belanda

Unforgiven.

We also have forgiven you...

@Rico it's been more than 70 years since our proclamation of independence. The Dutch are nothing but very kind to us. No use for all the hate

Thanks for that. But your government still must do official apologize for hundred years occupatio/colonization who make indonesian people suffer..

@@alifoemry5217 I think well pass on that, thanks.

@@alifoemry5217 and does your goverment give excuses to the survivors and relatives of all those thousands and thousands dutch and indo-dutch civilians who just were slaughterd due the short Bersiap periode by the so called Indonesian guerilla's? Complete familie's where slaughterd, mostley elderly people, woman and children... villages with Indonesian critians were attacted to and sufferd so much casualties, they where so glad to be protected by dutch soldiers, otherwise your so called Indonsian freedom fighters would have whiped them all out, just because they had a different religion.

@@alifoemry5217 well....maybe we can look at the way the R.I is treating the people of West papua and the moluccan islands right now.... talking about human rights...

Why would any Dutch people have hard feelings towards Indonesians?? Raar commentaar…

@Randy Satriani Lu aja kali yg merasa dijajah. Emang msh byk orang bego kyk lu yg gk mampu bersaing, & ketika jd pecundang yg lu salahin orang lain.

@Randy Satriani Lu pecundang gk mampu bersaing jgn nyalahin orang lain. Udh dari leluhur lu itu pecundang.

@@antonkurniapurba3683 mungkin pernyataan yg bener kyk gini, "Mentalitas orba masih melekat di pikiran kebanyakan elit politik Indonesia".

U can easily say that cause u r colonial people

Yusril yusril lmao nice english kiddo

YOUR GRANDPARENTS WAS PURE CANCER AF

@@helpme10ksubsnovideos28 Ooga booga shut up

@@yusrilyusril2381 But you are a narcist anti-social dump muslim. Go pray idiot hahahhahahahahaha. Islam is way way worse then all the other religions

P. Tjandra Well said

ercan kilic haha😂 funny

Twentenaer wjat you expect us to do sit their while you regain the colony and started killing us all over for another century the chinese were commies even if they are innocent they should go back to mainland china and better dead than red literally. i heard that the nazis treated the dutch with kindness idk why did they ever wanted freedom i mean they did it to others im sure they liked it

Twentenaer tell dat to your ancestors who invaded our motherland.. 😊 for me, we all are human not angel or god.. people have done bad things to you.. it's nprmal if you hate it, want to have revenge.. you are the one who decides it ofcourse ahahha.. but for 350 years.. don't forget "kerja rodi" that netherlander made our people died beacuse of that.. yoi should learn history not just from your side.. 😊

Don’t forget the worst imperial country ever - Japan, also occupied them. It was the Dutch, the British/Australians, and the Americans who fought to free them. Indonesia to this day mistreats the people of west papua.

My apologies -Dutch person

@@damien4246 fake news

Dutch are still better when it comes to admitting the horrible things they did in the past. Unlike Japanese.

⁠@@imawormbeforeiamaman4261true, but japanese did the whole asian race and maybe the world a favor by proving the master race dutch aint invincible. The mentality like forgiving is the reason why Indonesia was able to be colonized in the first place (even dutch admiral saw that mentality as a sign of weakness). The only proper way and “civilized” way to treat colonialists is like when Koxinga kicked out dutch from Taiwan or when Vietminh marched those 8000 french troops to prisons which resulted in many starvation and deaths. Besides, Indonesia should ask for those 4.3 billion guilder back, gotta teach those master race some humiliation and the proper meaning of “actions have consequences “. I cant fathom why most asian these days still have mentality of worshipping white race, some even went as far as getting blue eyes surgery. Crazy.

where is his service deployment take place?

Some people...I mean, lots of people who suffered from those wars are still alive 'till these days. They told us lots of horrible stories about those wars. My mother lost her 3 younger siblings while moving out of town to escape from the Dutch Army. They were all children under 5 y.o. Her 3 older brothers joined the student army, and got into the guirella confronting the Dutch Army. They were not living huge at that time. They were just common people who lived as common citizens in Jogjakarta. My grandfather was once a chief of a station. His house next to the station was ruined by the Dutch bombing from their air force. Lucky enough, no one got hurt because of it. As a chief of the station, my grandfather spoke Dutch very fluently. He died not long after the second agression in 1951. He was so much depressed.

@@tarabagyo8129 i totally get it, i would hate them for it for what they have done to my family. but how harsh it may sound. the war is over and there is nothing we can do to make it all ok again. we should still think about those days and how horrible it is but there is nothing to do about it. im not saying we should never think about it again but we should not keep this in mind on a daily basis. because unfortunately there is nothing to do about it, the only thinkg you can do is just accept it and be happy that life is better now. and i am very sorry for your grandfather! and ofcourse tge rest of your family

@@nickdevries5146 Yeah. It was all in the past. I hope there will be peace all over the world. Quite interesting to read the different perceptions that appeared in the comments about this video. The Dutch people seemed still to call it police actions, while the Indonesians said those were Dutch aggressions. Perhaps, losing Indonesia was quite hard for Netherlands to accept.

@@tarabagyo8129 i think it was pretty hard to accept that. because well there were a lot of Dutch people living in Indonesia at that time for example my grandfather too. but luckily it is over now and most of the time we live in peace and happiness which is more important to me. and indeed i like everyone's perspective on it

i get what you mean i am also dutch but we also have to remember a few things here 1 back then the politicians of that time tought it was the right thing to do its right in our period easy to say its wrong same with the VOC and there slaves ect its wrong in our time not theres i am sorry for what happend and i found out one of my great grandfathers also went to indonesia to fight but that dint make him a bad man in my opinion or brings shame to me and my great grandmother lived there and would proberbly have provited of how we treated them on witch i cant be proud of but still i am not ashamed they did because in that time it was normal i am not saying its a good thing what they did but still thats the truth to it all we can keep saying sorry but it has happend and the time between has long been gone its a sad war for both partys we should remember it but lets just call it the past and focus on our future we got a bigger crises on our heads right now the global warming the korea shit and the trade war ect and that effects all so lets focus on that nothing more

@@eelkeniemeijer1639 Normal? Are u serious? Damn...what a logic did u have man, is there any compassion at all back in the Times? I guess there is

​@@rifqiadreansyah6005 all i am saying things an point of views change over time and there were people who found it not okay but as far as i know not a lot and like i said i dint find it okay either but its what was back ten i guess normal because if it wasnt why would they do it then

@@galonkosong6201 why ?

​@@rifqiadreansyah6005 i didnt even know who he was untill now that westerling and he might have been a Hero in our eyes back in those Days but your forgeting that country's have chanced a lot in the past 100 years Even you might hate me or what ever but i am not the one who shot your Great grandfather or shot you greandpa i am also a Guy who dint support the war because i wasnt there also your Great grandfather died for a lot more then just nutmeg and spices and tbh i hope you are proud on him i cant say the Same because mine was on the outher side maybe he was the one that shot yours i dont know and tbh i dont care bc i cant care about something i wasnt there and also yes we wernt fair to you Guys but at least you dint end up as the Congo or so and you May not fogive me for something i never did or intended and i just have been Born in a country you May do that and its your opinion but i am sorry to hear what my country men have done to your familie i cant chance the past only the future and thats that we have to work together one day sooner or later

Trus?

Yup

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actually majority of dutch dont even know what the dutch exactly did in indonesia other than 'maintaining order to keep it a colony'

History is written by the Victors. Please remember this very well. The new generation cant help it. But..................... even the old generation couldnt help it. Why did Columbus leave Spain in 1492? What happened during that time in Spain?

Well we can't blame some children for being children of criminals, right? It should be like that, but I'm sorry some Indonesians won't agree with me, they believe if their ancestors are killed by someone's ancestor, they should kill that "someone".

"Until the philosophy which hold one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned everywhere is war."

In war, there are no winners. Only widows.

@@bloedblarre what why ? You steal our land

@@bloedblarre why your country kill many Inocent in Indonesia, Read the wresteling history he killed many Inocent

@@cindyftm4550 Maybe he is from malaku or west- guinea?

Pretty sure kampong comes from Malay as we do not use the word in the Netherlands itself. It is true that there are many dutch words still used in indonesia, i saw quite a lot of them when i visited there.

In the kali (river) 😂

​@@laustudiein vietnam too

ramoseven I watched a video (forgot what channel it was), about a Dutch war veteran. He has pure heart, lovely lad, and never shot any Indonesian. When the boss/captain asked him to kill an Indonesian, he pretended to shoot him and let him alive. When he was telling a story, he cried. He also sang our national song. Ah also, I saw an old touching pic on Insta about an army Dutchman shared a piece of bread with a lil Indonesian kid. So yeah not all Dutchmen in the past are evil. There're a good Dutchmen as well :) God bless yer opa and yer opa's brother. Peace and love :)

I do not know a single well educated dutch person who does not know about the attrocities comitted by the dutch. People are honest about it and fully acknowledge the suffering indonesians had to suffer under our rule. That said there is some VOC pride in the netherlands, but that has more to do with our own struggle of independence against spain at the time and the fact that a small european backwater managed to become one of the most powerfull trading empires. Basically people like the trade part, but not the exploitation and supressing of locals.

@@laustudie That is good to hear

Both of them are wrong? What are you talking abt? Why dutch came to 18.000 km across from their home and claim this land is theirs territory? For 350 years? And how many people suffers?

@@hasanuddinan-najah7599 right. he talked about two side are wrong... the heck! doesn't make sense

Bodoh sekali anda..belanda itu penjajah..indonesia itu berjuang demi tanah airnya...masa indonesia juga salah..bodoh sekali

@@hasanuddinan-najah7599 tell them brother this sick dutchies think The Indo where wrong wtf??

@Hammerschlägen M Stop whining? Even you guys (Dutch) still bring up about what Wehrmact did to Netherlands 🤣, see to yourself before speak moron

🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍we will never stop to fight you

My apologies.

Not all Indonesian good, not all Dutch good. Just learn from the past bruh. No need to hate each other now ;)

@@TheMissasori agree

Well I like dutch people and want married one of them I am Indonesian. All country have good and bad people. We can't hate them

He was saying it was a inocent civilian, and that he was shocked his fellow countrymen would do such a thing

you kill bali king, an ally of dutch republic after japan. no matter how ugly dutch republic they don't kill a king as far as i know

THE NETHERLANDS IS A ROBBER STATE OPIUM TRADE CULTURAL SYSTEMS APPARTHEID POLICY

"Please Bring bang our stollen indonesian artifact" Biat mereka ngerti

susah bro, lha wong sini aja tidak mau mengejar. yang dipikirin cuma menggendutkan kelompoknya.. hahaha

Actually japan was on number 1

@@SnowtigerVIL You should read more and do your research. When the Dutch, English, French and Portuguese were colonizing in the 1600's Japan wasn't even in the picture! BTW..what about the USA? Do you think the massacre at Wounded Knee was okay, etc? Or more recently the US torture in Abu Graib? I don't think God will ever forgive the A-bomb of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Massacring innocents not in combat, is a USA Communist supporting profile.

@@elaine1034 I was talking about how many people they have killed and what their goal was seems like you are talking about time and how many things but I just understood what you meant with the dutch being the most cruelest you are talking about an opinion im just into the facts and I wish you a beautiful day being frustrated about something while you werent even born yet me neither so I wont tell my opinion about it because I cant be frustrated or call some people more cruel while I havent seen them doing these things And of course countries have done bad things but Japan had clearly 1 goal and it was taking over the world the dutch went for the cash and would tried to keep that with battles I said Japan is on number 1 because of the amount of people they have killed is way larger than the dutch and their goal if you compare the dutch and japan with the time and making people poor correct but they are both different things And I think you cant compare those or it will be an opinion because you cant tell if the dutch people hated or liked (were nicer to) the indos more than Japan have a great day!

+@@SnowtigerVIL My opinion is based on books I've read. The Dutch were colonialists as were the English, the Spanish, the Portuguese and the French. However, in the book Caribbean it was reported that the Dutch colonies were the most cruel. As for Japan they were not colonialists. What happens in wartime or when you're being invaded is a different thing altogether.

@@elaine1034 I think you made a mistake while reading they probably meant the most cruel of the time (so not like the most cruel things that ever happened or did they say that?) you were talking about 2 different timelines before and im sure the book didnt compare these timelines and in the book carribbean is surely never the japanese empire mentioned if im correct and thats why I cant give my opinion about that because 2 different timelines with different cruel things isnt always comparable

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Tapi Jepang sekarang jadi negara tujuan Ekspor terbesar Indonesia sedangkan Belanda malah di luar 8 besar tujuan Ekspor Indo

We are taught in school. I know i was at least, for a full year pretty much.

Itulah sebabnya belanda jajah kita hingga lama... lawong sepeninggal belanda sesama indonesia tega saling gigit...

Cina

how about raymond westerling !!

The netherlands are on 28 peace missions, right now.

They didn't beat anything

They didnt beat holland lol, the USA pressured the netherlands to step back, or else they would pull in the marshall care

The indonesian war for independence was a indonesian military defeat the KNIL and dutch volunteer corps made significant gains and beat back the guerilla's during both operation kraai and operation product the only reason we were forced out was because the US threatened to withhold our marshallplan

@@bloedblarre Where are You From. BTW

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@@gretawoxe4269 😂

There was no Indonesia before the Dutch came keep that in mind

You must be joking. Gajah Mada would have died.

They will form Malaya !

@@jarisalmazani5016 why would they called it Malaya? They would still call it Majapahit

@@leonardopurba.s Well, it's actually an EU4 joke

@@jarisalmazani5016 oh okay. What is EU4? Sorry for bad English