Shogun - Lord Toranaga betrayed by his brother Saeki

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@micowez5723 Ай бұрын

It took 9 cuts to remove the head, according to the adult Toranaga's conservation.

@menumlor9432 27 күн бұрын

It's kind of like how Theon Greyjoy beheaded ser rodric with multiple cuts and kicked it off. Very disrespectful and shameful.

@ysgramornorris2452 11 күн бұрын

Interesting. 9 is a number associated with suffering in Japanese culture, like 4 is associated with death.

@masktuxedo77 Ай бұрын

When the boy lord swing his sword, I thought "no way it is a clean cut, the show seems to mess it up, but who could ask a child actor to make such a convincing cut". 😅. Of course later the conversation between the adult Toranaga and his most trusted general, Hiromatsu, revealed that the show did not mess it up at all.

@CrniWuk Ай бұрын

Who asks a child to be his second?

@ryanserdan4267 Ай бұрын

@@CrniWukI think it may have been intentional, to embarrass his opponent with his last breath

@therealistintheboot8822 29 күн бұрын

@@ryanserdan4267I can see if he was a grown man then he botched swings yeah but most of his men would say to the selves he get better.

@zzman305 Ай бұрын

1:30 The samurai taking his dead enemy's head is a fantastic detail. This was a common practice during the time period Shogun takes place. The taking of the head of an opponent you had killed in battle was considered evidence that you had done your duty to your lord. It was also used as a method to record who specifically had been killed in battle. Heads of high ranking samurai with recognizable faces would often be presented to a victorious lord at the end of the battle in a ritualized head viewing ceremony known as "Kubi Jikken".

@LazyIndieGamer 25 күн бұрын

Its primal

@KobeJordanHakeem 17 күн бұрын

@@LazyIndieGamer and they call the english "barbarians" lmao they the real savages

@ethansmedley724 17 күн бұрын

@@KobeJordanHakeemLooking back in history, there’s plenty of “savagery” everywhere, in every time period. In the time we live in now, we can look at things like this and be rightly horrified. But, don’t think that everyone else’s hands were any cleaner. This was their way of life at the time, and while brutal, I’m sure we can find just as much savagery anywhere else, albeit reflavored for different cultures. Some things are just part of the time period, while others can be seen as terrible atrocities. You can go anywhere from Rwanda, Henry the VIII, and Native American genocide to Hitler in that regard, for example. Bloody hands everywhere.

@user-pk1qe5yl7v 14 күн бұрын

@@KobeJordanHakeemもちろん野蛮だろう。野蛮でなければ「太陽の沈まぬ国」はできなかった。

@ysgramornorris2452 11 күн бұрын

@@KobeJordanHakeem The Romans had their enemies crucified or fed to the lions. The English drowned or burned "witches". The American scalped the Natives. The Aztecs sacrificed both their own people and their captives by ripping out their still beating hearts. Barbarism and savagery are universal human traits. So if you're like "[insert specific culture here] are the real savages", you're wrong. Because your people are also real savages.

@xlDeathlxJosey Ай бұрын

All these characters "betraying" Toranaga knew exactly what he was and what his goal was, you really dont get that till the end of the show though. It was really a game of kill or be killed so i really can't look at any of them as "betrayers", they knew what was up. Toranaga was just better at playing the victim as well as playing honorable and that makes all the others look more corrupt and backstabby, that was why they lose in the end.

@stefan13M Ай бұрын

Would you turn against your brother when he asked for your help?

@xlDeathlxJosey Ай бұрын

@@stefan13M given Toranaga was basically planning to use his brother as a back up chess piece I kinda get it. He was trying to play his brother and got played, fair game. I don't really think there were any truly GOOD people vying for power in this show, we saw that at the end when Toranaga was terrorizing Yabu's village after he was the one who burned the boat. Everyone was sacrificing those close to them.

@themjpaul 26 күн бұрын

He knew his brother would betray him.. it was all part of the ploy. The show kept telling us. He was traded as a boy and he learned, enemies are everywhere and Zero friends.

@elonwhatever 18 күн бұрын

@@stefan13M Depends on the actions of the brother. Just because you are tied to someone by blood doesn't mean you want to be associate with their actions. I wouldn't want someone like Trump or Putin to be kin of mine.

@Turboy65 Ай бұрын

Saeki was entirely too cheerful and friendly to be trusted right from the start.

@themjpaul 26 күн бұрын

Many enemies and zero friends.

@giuSE2004 9 күн бұрын

I'm sure Toranaga knew this, everything that happened was planned by him and fell all perfectly, he won the war before it even started

@bagussunandi6540 Ай бұрын

ngl saeki is armor and his army looks cool af

@calebh7902 Ай бұрын

Not as cool as Young Toranaga

@lm2449 Ай бұрын

記憶違いかも知れないが昔、ロードショーのテレビ番組で龍の忍者の放映の時、終わりの解説で荻昌弘さんが　真田広之が世界で活躍することことを祈ってます。と言っていた。。　40年以上経ってその通りになった。

@Oakland510 Ай бұрын

Amazing !

@user-vy1bv2se6c 5 күн бұрын

遅いし、日本人俳優としては数が少ない。使いっ走りだし。

@user-zp1mq9mb9i Ай бұрын

Thumbnail was the only thing i wanted to see in series.

@themjpaul 26 күн бұрын

The entire season he keeps telling us he is surrounded by enemies and no friends. I picked up on that line.

@jamesericpham4139 10 күн бұрын

Isn't it his brother In-Law !! That would make the deception easier to understand

@Config2025 14 күн бұрын

When it comes to sword fights azumi was one of my favorite.

@thefluffyshark5202 13 күн бұрын

Watching this show high was a mistake, this scene and the one where Toranagas son slipped and cracked his head open, certainly a shock

@thrice5560 Ай бұрын

SHAMEFUR DISPRAY

@obi-wankenobi1750 Ай бұрын

MY LORD! OUR GENERAL HAS FALLEN!

@redsol3629 Ай бұрын

My Lord! Owa men a running from the Batterferird!

@colinmerritt7645 Ай бұрын

TORONAGA-SAMA! YOU PRAY TO FURRIES TOO?

@JackMeoff46 Ай бұрын

Total War Shogun, I had totally forgotten about that game

@mertylmaz1189 28 күн бұрын

Takeda Clan gang rise up

@shaundavenport621 25 күн бұрын

The thumbnail would make an excellent painting!

@vdubmerc3 27 күн бұрын

Look at those cheek bones, of course Saeki was going to be the bad guy.

@geoffquartermainebastin9302 12 күн бұрын

I loved the book, EXCEPT for the name changes. Why did Clavell do that? The history is accurate, everything except the names, yet any student of Japanese history knows them perfectly well..

@luiscarlosmotasantos729 5 күн бұрын

Ni idea. Se entiende lo de Mariko San porque lo adaptaron de Garasha pero lo demás no tanto.

@user-yd7jy7yr1t Ай бұрын

Many Japanese people hold the Bushido spirit close to their hearts

@JackMeoff46 Ай бұрын

Bushido was not a thing in the sengoku era. The show depicted this accurately, it was eat or be eaten.

@blacktree4200 14 күн бұрын

False lol

@user-yd7jy7yr1t 14 күн бұрын

@@blacktree4200 What do you know about Japanese people?

@oven5997 13 күн бұрын

@@user-yd7jy7yr1tmore than u

@HF-mo7fo 6 күн бұрын

そんなものはないよ

@renevalice3056 5 күн бұрын

I could be mistaken, but I swear I heard an elephant in the background; these samurai must have been fought far from Japan?

@pisuoxide Ай бұрын

So Toranaga was encircled in Edo. How did he escape with his forces?

@timothy1949 Ай бұрын

it doesn't matter 😂😂 he wins no matter what, thats the point

@OkaNieba Ай бұрын

As i understand is, the forces we see are but a garrison( during the meeting with the Teahouse owner, she stated it as such). After Mariko died he fled Edo and joins his main forces gathering elsewhere.

@calebh7902 Ай бұрын

Did you not watch the rest?

@OkaNieba Ай бұрын

@@calebh7902 I did thats why i answered. Its hinted that the troops who were hit by the earthquake arent his main forces and after Marikos death the Lord of Osaka gets a report that Toranaga got away.

@vk45de54 Ай бұрын

@@OkaNieba Yeah... how did he get past the surround forces? Plot armor.

@siyamikoksal960 24 күн бұрын

Shogun is egual to disappointment

@majemaje0805sweetvoice Ай бұрын

The novel ends, but the history of Japan is interesting from here on out.The battle at Sekigahara with Ishido, a grand location similar to Game of Thrones, thousands of extras, and a bloody battle scene alone could make a second season. In season 3, the battle of Ochiba (Yodo-dono) who turned around and led Toranaga to victory in the Battle of Sekigahara, and his son fights Toranaga at the impregnable Osaka Castle, the winter camp, the battle of the summer camp, and the novel is written in a foreign country. Although the original author is a human being, starting from season 2, Japanese historians and talented screenwriters selected from Japan will be involved in the production, so the Japanese culture will be doubled.In season 2, Ochiha will be played by Fumika Nikaido, who will be the main character. It will be interesting because he will be the main character along with Hiroyuki Sanada.The Battle of Sekigahara, the Winter Siege, and the Summer Siege will reach the climax in history. Also, Mariko-sama and Yabushige, who passed away in season 1, will appear in flashback scenes, so they will likely appear in season 2 as well. Seasons 2 and 3 are likely to have a larger global audience than season 1. Please consider making a season 2.

@calebh7902 Ай бұрын

Where did you get this info? Are you sure they will be making a season 2? The battle scene would be historic.

@nmc400 Ай бұрын

Nope no season 2, this is where the novel ends. In ep 10. If there was a s2, they havent started filming yet. So itd be ateast another 5 yrs.

@JackMeoff46 Ай бұрын

Me when I spread misinformation on the internet

@pogiakolagi1909 20 күн бұрын

No season 2. The story ended. He already told us what's going to happen. And we already know what his 3rd heart really wants.

@calebh7902 20 күн бұрын

@@pogiakolagi1909 what is av3rd heart?

@ancientruth5298 16 күн бұрын

This is very dangerous pls dont do this at home

@stefan13M 17 күн бұрын

We have good news. "A second season renewal of the limited series is in the works." tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/shogun-season-two-renewal-in-the-works-for-fx-drama-hiroyuki-sanada-signed-to-return/

@davidguglielmo1177 16 күн бұрын

i don't want a second series, the series ended precisely where he needed to end, nothing more nothing less