Shoreditch: Experimental Music School 1969

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dorlec01

dorlec01

10 жыл бұрын

London, UK
MUSIC IN SCHOOL:A NEW SOUND
Programme number: EFE1112K Date: 02/02/1969
Children from infant, secondary modern & comprehensive schools apply methods of contemporary music, including demonstrations of simple tape & electronic techniques. The children discuss with teacher how different sounds may be produced and experiment with electric circuits and loops on the tape recorder.
with:
Peter Fletcher
Brian Dennis: www.musicnow.co.uk/composers/d...
Part of Creative Archive project. 2006-7
BBC and Arts Council England
Info here:
www.bfi.org.uk/archive-collect...

Пікірлер: 107
@dannydangerously4533
@dannydangerously4533 9 жыл бұрын
I remember music lessons in the early 80's, we were encouraged to create the sounds of the wind, animals, space. it captured my imagination. One of the most important lessons in music, imagination
@waheex
@waheex 8 жыл бұрын
actually way ahead of it's time.
@morganfitzp4147
@morganfitzp4147 10 жыл бұрын
The experimental theatre piece about cholera gets super intense at the end! I see echoes of early film like Batteship Potempkin, mask/dance work of Oskar Schlemmer and the Bread & Puppet Theater, electronic soundtracks like Forbidden Planet and the work of John Cage, all made by kids-SO GOOD!
@cooptrol
@cooptrol 9 жыл бұрын
in a society that promotes this kind of learning, it was obvious that they would end up having Aphex Twins, Cabaret Voltaires, Autechres, Adrian Sherwoods...
@richardanderson8696
@richardanderson8696 6 жыл бұрын
Used to. Not any more. Only in very expensive private schools.
@RickNance
@RickNance 6 жыл бұрын
More likely (by the dates) create a bunch of people that Aphex, Autechres, and Sherwoods would be listening to. (Gavin Bryars et.al. )
@not.spir0s
@not.spir0s 5 жыл бұрын
hey, we got james ferraro, oneohtrix point never, and a few other neat wacko musicians. those are they two that come to my mind though.
@jameslerouge
@jameslerouge 9 жыл бұрын
Stunning footage and so important! Recalling my study of A-level Music - we had zero access to things like this, that was during the 90s. By the time i went onto University, everything was so tech based, i feel i missed out on an important hands on exposure to the creation of sound. I teach kids Music, and i'm well aware that for some, it's just a complete doss around. I wonder if children realise the value, the social and cultural purpose of music....
@artistwintersong7343
@artistwintersong7343 4 жыл бұрын
I agree so much. I am even trying right now to decide if I can be accepted to do a PhD and include this film and similar groups as part of a research plan; books, films, and so on. Brian Dennis has so sadly passed on. I have no idea if anyone continued as his protégé. I wish I could figure that out.
@mantriccaravan8228
@mantriccaravan8228 6 жыл бұрын
Now thats called breaking the old conservatory musical rigors. Expanding the instruments beyond what they are/where expected to be used for. Brilliant and pioneering stuff especially incorporating the creative minds of youth. Eno got the hint!
@saxophones
@saxophones 9 жыл бұрын
THAT LAD ON THE REELS IS A CHAMP
@chreod
@chreod 9 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Anyone have any idea what machine it might be?
@ChrisEgonSearle
@ChrisEgonSearle 9 жыл бұрын
Ok there it is. The best film on the entire Internets.
@allgoodmatt
@allgoodmatt 10 жыл бұрын
great to see there are always adventurous teachers around
@sethskundrick6623
@sethskundrick6623 10 жыл бұрын
“heat, radiation, and relentlessness”
@gelerickson
@gelerickson 3 жыл бұрын
piece sounds like something by This Heat
@exempligratia101
@exempligratia101 2 жыл бұрын
This film is an incredible look into the style that Brian Dennis sought to enable children to access music in such a creative, provocative avant-garde style. It’s important that we can still do this, albeit beyond what schools and modern education (which is now dumbed downed greatly) currently teaches. Timeless and very powerful creativity.
@katherineeaston6214
@katherineeaston6214 6 жыл бұрын
I was in the BBC school programme Making Music back in early sixties. I went to Ridgeway Primary School I have a photo but would love to see any footage. Think it ran for at least six weeks. Fond memories meeting the Blue Peter team
@artistwintersong7343
@artistwintersong7343 4 жыл бұрын
what photo? of music like this?
@johnsept4985
@johnsept4985 9 жыл бұрын
Sadly, there's no space allotted for anything like this now. Creativity teaching will in future be restricted to accounting alone.
@TomMcRand
@TomMcRand 9 жыл бұрын
in the USA it's all sports, but yes the same
@derocov
@derocov 6 жыл бұрын
Now this is when I Love interwebs! Finally shown. Angst is not dangerous, neither are bizarre, strange cluster noises. Sound-pictures gives clues to creative and central idéas on how to rehearsal and organize sound material and develop storytelling. Sir Roy Cooper You are a HERO. You seem so encouraging. Peter Fletcher, Brian Dennis you are certainly too.
@mcspongeicus
@mcspongeicus 9 жыл бұрын
This is great. All kids should go here!
@badgardener
@badgardener 7 жыл бұрын
Really powerful ending
@PERRODESAPARECIDO
@PERRODESAPARECIDO 5 жыл бұрын
Great document. Thank you
@antigen4
@antigen4 6 жыл бұрын
very inspiring - great job
@aaronstern498
@aaronstern498 2 жыл бұрын
blessed by the algorithm. Thank you for sharing this!
@neil_estate
@neil_estate 10 жыл бұрын
Wish I'd gone there.
@nsputnik
@nsputnik 10 жыл бұрын
wonderful!
@afrigal2420
@afrigal2420 Ай бұрын
love it!!
@cbashe
@cbashe 9 жыл бұрын
Wonderful.
@olm7080
@olm7080 Жыл бұрын
This is amazing
@IanTeaVids
@IanTeaVids 10 жыл бұрын
Michael Gove should be forced to watch this. Clockwork Orange style.
@orphicaalbum
@orphicaalbum 5 жыл бұрын
How amazing.
@SolidEyeYEG
@SolidEyeYEG 6 жыл бұрын
Summer of '69, but the cool one I would've wanted.
@inzaroque
@inzaroque 9 жыл бұрын
awesome.. !!
@johnlemaine6298
@johnlemaine6298 10 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@michaelbauers8800
@michaelbauers8800 8 жыл бұрын
I always think, go around with recorder. Record a lot of interesting sounds. Use a sampler or similar device/software to make music with. You can augment the recorded sound with synths or anything else you fancy. Many years ago, people did this sort of thing with tape, and it's much easier now.
@sellersgarner
@sellersgarner 8 жыл бұрын
Musique concrète " I believe
@edgeeffect
@edgeeffect 7 жыл бұрын
Now we know why Shoreditch has ended up the way it is now. ;)
@user-tt2qn1cj1x
@user-tt2qn1cj1x 2 жыл бұрын
Never had any music lessons like this at school or college.
@ernesto4429
@ernesto4429 10 жыл бұрын
brilliant!!
@user-oc1pi9xn1o
@user-oc1pi9xn1o 9 жыл бұрын
Further proof that with all that acid around, more or less everybody got contact high by the end of the sixties
@Digiphex
@Digiphex 10 жыл бұрын
When did they take the acid?
@udomatthiasdrums5322
@udomatthiasdrums5322 3 жыл бұрын
YESSS!!!!! Love it!!
@bostich1
@bostich1 4 жыл бұрын
lucky generation, great school and teachers
@Ian-gw2vx
@Ian-gw2vx Жыл бұрын
Brian Dennis' hair is just as experimental as the music.
@blazed85
@blazed85 2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for a sign in life for me to trip balls on acid. Stumbled across this video and gonna watch it peaking hard.
@suricatafari
@suricatafari 9 жыл бұрын
genial!
@marfaus4894
@marfaus4894 9 жыл бұрын
Wow!
@WoWitsGeorgii
@WoWitsGeorgii 10 жыл бұрын
Those kids are like "what the fuck am I doing here.."
@TheChurchOfKaiak
@TheChurchOfKaiak 9 жыл бұрын
Thats nice :-) Its so much better than all this "singing the same old boring songs" and the helpless "letting pupils play ordinary instruments in old fashioned ways". I know what I`m saying as I had to work as a school`s music teacher for some years, always having the books of the great Gertrude Meyer Denkmann in my head ...
@aradachantaradol9604
@aradachantaradol9604 9 жыл бұрын
Percusion is basic of the other symphony so if have a good percusion will encouraged that band.Mimicking nature is the best playing music
@MrAbsentwithoutleave
@MrAbsentwithoutleave 9 жыл бұрын
Why is this not still a thing??????
@sdfitz65
@sdfitz65 8 жыл бұрын
+Adam Walton Funding and the fact that parents/educators just don't care beyond teaching kids how to exploit people for money...
@MarceloChorus
@MarceloChorus 9 жыл бұрын
muybuena!
@taranburns
@taranburns 10 жыл бұрын
I reckon the teachers were influenced by Stockhausen and Carlos, but never got as far as White Noise
@PaulTheSkeptic
@PaulTheSkeptic 6 жыл бұрын
I've transcribed a short excerpt of talk covertly recorded during class. "What are we doing here? Seriously, what the fuck are we doing here? All I know is I better get an A for this shit. Billy, you're in tune. Sorry professor. Is he crazy? I don't know. I think he might be into to some pretty heavy drugs." When these students were confronted with this tape, they promptly submitted it as a class project under the title "Concerto for Elephants" and were rewarded an A.
@Azi282
@Azi282 4 жыл бұрын
This is way ahead of its time, quite unbelievably fantastic. Ima go listen to Bodysong after this
@darkdubh
@darkdubh 9 жыл бұрын
I wonder did Stephen Stapelton of Nurse With Wound go to this school?
@danielbeller972
@danielbeller972 9 жыл бұрын
darkdubh We all would have liked to be in that class...
@chockergram
@chockergram 9 ай бұрын
From the days of the visionary Inner London Education Authority. As destroyed by Margaret Thatcher in the early 1990s.
@koronaentertainment5474
@koronaentertainment5474 3 жыл бұрын
Cool-tural :)
@FKKNNOIZE
@FKKNNOIZE 10 жыл бұрын
fkkn great
@drwalker_liquidsky
@drwalker_liquidsky 10 жыл бұрын
yes!
@zxomb
@zxomb 3 жыл бұрын
So this is what school was like for my parents
@LovevonMelenEkman
@LovevonMelenEkman Жыл бұрын
This is pretty wild imho
@shaftsbury94
@shaftsbury94 8 жыл бұрын
this could be a the day today sketch
@perry1559
@perry1559 5 жыл бұрын
I’d like to know if any of these kids went into a career in music in some way.
@innersoundz
@innersoundz 10 жыл бұрын
to my grandmother.
@artistwintersong7343
@artistwintersong7343 4 жыл бұрын
? "tell me more"
@enilesnirkette
@enilesnirkette 10 жыл бұрын
Joyce Grenfell at 12:55 :)
@The5Bullets
@The5Bullets 10 жыл бұрын
Samples for days...
@jamied1969
@jamied1969 9 жыл бұрын
A young Johnny Rotten on the right of the younger kids group during recording playback perhaps?
@randomdudelife
@randomdudelife 4 жыл бұрын
he went to catholic school
@nasrosubari49
@nasrosubari49 10 жыл бұрын
I can't watch these old documentaries/studio discussions without thinking of Monty Python (e. g. Gavin Milarrrrrrrrrrrrrrr)
@xjn
@xjn 10 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid that after having seen "Look Around You", I can't take this seriously.. continuously looking for something ridiculous to happen.
@DonEllis
@DonEllis 10 жыл бұрын
As if Experimental Music were not something already in the genre...
@ernesto4429
@ernesto4429 10 жыл бұрын
you mean something like looking at the BBC News
@DonEllis
@DonEllis 10 жыл бұрын
BBC News has been material for parody since long before the Pythons did it "way back when"!
@marcellaobdrzalek8435
@marcellaobdrzalek8435 4 жыл бұрын
experimental music has the right to children
@Muzztein
@Muzztein 9 жыл бұрын
nice haircut
@colinclarke4285
@colinclarke4285 6 жыл бұрын
Deiv Muzztein it's obviously a wig
@peterosullivan9808
@peterosullivan9808 5 жыл бұрын
Dave, what's the story behind this?
@johnnydowdofficial
@johnnydowdofficial Жыл бұрын
Sign me up
@StefanSzczelkun
@StefanSzczelkun 3 жыл бұрын
For more see The Scratch Orchestra At 50 Facebook page for more
@antonkazmerchuk3105
@antonkazmerchuk3105 9 жыл бұрын
Brian Dennis has dat haircut
@TomMcRand
@TomMcRand 9 жыл бұрын
this is really incredible. do they still do this for kids?
@sdfitz65
@sdfitz65 8 жыл бұрын
+Tom McRand... hi dude... not always although specific funds are often allocated depending on the school system. For instance a high school near us is a train wreck with regards to many aspects of education yet they do have quite an advanced music program which is a good thing for the very few kids who are intellectually advanced and have an interest... the rest of them listen to crap on their devices and cop sum rock-bottom attitudes.
@davanmani556
@davanmani556 7 жыл бұрын
"Music picture."
@jonkennedyfederation
@jonkennedyfederation 10 жыл бұрын
FUKKING HAIRCUTTT!!!!!
@squiremuldoon5462
@squiremuldoon5462 3 жыл бұрын
Too bad creativity has now been cancelled.
@davidford3744
@davidford3744 2 жыл бұрын
Theses fake Programme cue countdown clocks really get on my nerves. Everyone knows they're fake so why bother
@dorlec01
@dorlec01 2 жыл бұрын
sorry to disappoint - its real
@davidford3744
@davidford3744 2 жыл бұрын
@@dorlec01 well if it is real I do apologise. Its just I know that most of these intro clocks are fake as I made a few for folks to use in the Uk back in the day, and everyone seems to be doing it now. Incidentally an edited sound bootleg vinyl LP of the Shoreditch film was in circulation here in the UK about 20 years ago
@orangejuiceman
@orangejuiceman 9 жыл бұрын
I find this sort of pathetic. If they are to teach them music, teach tgem classical music or contemporary music of back then like jazz, boogie woogie, rock 'n' roll, and etcetera.
@orangejuiceman
@orangejuiceman 9 жыл бұрын
WET AMANDA Ok
@ScruffyJedd
@ScruffyJedd 9 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing you're not really familiar with music concrete then, which is what this is. It actually falls under the category of contemporary music and if you study music in school you would learn about music concrete along with other contemporary music as well as jazz, classical, romantic and barock. However when it comes to rock n' roll its not really covered because its not really considered "art" music which is usually what formal institutions would teach.
@gkiltz0
@gkiltz0 9 жыл бұрын
I live in the US, my parents though that by exposing me to classical music, they would make me "appreciate" it and "give up that silly noise!" Only made me a BIGGER rock fan!!
@orangejuiceman
@orangejuiceman 9 жыл бұрын
Lol
@DannyLHarleEuphoric
@DannyLHarleEuphoric 9 жыл бұрын
emphasis on boogie woogie
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