Totally agree the new dd ar9 is essentially the psa arv copy lol

Kel-Tec must be running low on nose candy.

Since i got my rock, ive wished there was a chassis for it. Im way more pumped for this than i am the flux 365.

@First_name_youtube_doesnt_likeNever forget how PSA took advantage of price gouging in 2020/2021/2022/2023. If you don't need it, don't buy PSA.

Innovative no, they just make up copies of existing guns. And some their spin on it but using old technology some new perhaps as well. Now, they are creative and putting a lot of guns that people want and are more affordable yes. For the most part but they also still have lemons and growing pains. Some QC and reliability improvements are still needed. Over time, as they grow, you would expect them to get better and better. I truly hope so. On paper, many of their guns I really like. I just do not want to fork up cash for a possible lemon that may not work and hassle with repairs.

In today’s world, a 1000 5.7 Pdw is cheap, especially since it’s a mp7 clone, the next best mp7 clone is the B&T MP9 and that usually sells for $2500… and it’s only 9mm

Kel tec got the mp7 clone for $300 they said fk Psa without saying it.

​@bassproshophat8999 if it's reliable I'm buying it.

I’m just gonna save my money for the 308 jakl and the Tommy Built T7 pistol its $3,500 but I want one cause it’s a real MP7 clone in 4.6x30mm just semi auto

Henry needs to make a 57 bolt gun also!

@@pricelessppplever action 5.7

​@rednecksniper4715 yeah that looks great and he made some improvements in the receiver also.

Kriss Vector 5.7 when?

I agree

Well no, actually the MP7.

That .308 JAKL perked my ears up a bit but I might put some money aside for "We have MP7 at home."

i mean you could always just move yk.

Dude… move to America wtf

@@vaden706🤣🤣... I know it freakin sucks over here!!

@@bolriconyc3795 by staying you’re granting consent to be governed that way. These tyrants only have as much power as we tolerate. I fled ny for that exact reason and it was the best decision I could’ve made

@vaden706 I know what you mean.... but it's not that simple for us right now, we just bought our home about 7 years ago and refinanced during the Pandemic to a ridiculous low interest rate so for now we are kind of stuck here. The only thing that is working out for us is that we are on Long Island where we still have some FREEDOM left, but trust me we cannot wait until that moment comes where we can leave this dump!

arguably better if it ends up being lighter with less parts, comes stock with a brace, they didnt even bother tempting you with tax stamps.

It's better than a Tommy built if it runs

Exactly

Yeah that is a jammomattic

CMMG Dissent 9mm MkG

We already have 4.6 ammo available commonly though?

@AjackLee4 I've never seen it. It may be that it is much rarer than 5.7

I get that, but it’s a nice added value, and the mbus pro add more value than they’re likely adding to the price for them. Even the gun without the radian or mbus for 1k is a steal

​@@alexlevinson8629@alexlevinson8629 IDK, I would agree since their Rock57 pistol is like $560 top. So I thought around $800 for this more reasonable(w/o the MBUS pro). Sure, I get it if someone thinks this is the 'next best thing to mp7 you can get at home'. Then anything below $3k could be considered 'worth it'. By any chance you know if this is a fixed barrel?

How cheap can you be? Even at $1500, they wouldn't be able to keep it in stock. It's a steal at $1k

@@virtuaguyverify@virtuaguyverify LMAO, do you even know me? How superficial can you be? PSA fanboi much? You must also not know anything about business thinking something based on a $550 pistol can be sold above the PS90 package(mags, red dot, ammo) price. Mind you, Keltec P50 is ~$700.

@JohnZ556 the only thing I know for sure is you are a cheapskate and the p50 is a fugly azz gun

Nah, each has thier own uniqueness, both companies are great. I have guns from both, but I give the edge to PSA

I imagine direct blowback. I think a fixed barrel would be better.

Better to be DB for accuracy, and reliability when suppressed. I hope.

My only concern is it is a tilting barrel like a pistol because it’s using a rock frame. If it is a tilting barrel I won’t touch the thing.

Elite ammunition and vanguard are standing on business with 5.7 ammo

It's 10mm all over again

It has to have something in it to prevent high chamber pressure extractions

It’s blow back. From what I heard it’s a Rock 5.7 slide with a longer barrel and muzzle device that has a frame built around it. Looks a lot cooler than it really is. You could have a 5.7 pistol and put it in a chassis system and have a very similar gun.

P90 is straight blowback@@pennsylvaniatoast

Good luck sourcing ammo for it

@@cameroncornelison8878 fiocchi makes ammo .52 cents a round