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Shotgun Mic Shootout! Video Mic Pro vs. NTG-3 vs. 416 vs. S-Mic 2 vs. CMIT 5u

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@ThatAudioGuy
@ThatAudioGuy 5 жыл бұрын
This video was a blast Parker! Thanks for having me
@TevanValtinson
@TevanValtinson 5 жыл бұрын
ironic how That Audio Guy sits in silence for the first 4 min :)
@Boostinpulsar
@Boostinpulsar 5 жыл бұрын
@That Audio Guy - Brendo, I just recently subscribed to your Filmakers Guide to Audio. Really looking forward to getting into it and learning as much as I can. That ending was great. Hearing @Parker Walbeck laughing is so rare, so its funny to see kept in the vid :). You should include more of that. Its great to have that entertainment aspect to any teaching/learning scenario ;) That was great, you two!
@ThatAudioGuy
@ThatAudioGuy 5 жыл бұрын
@@Boostinpulsar Welcome to the club!!
@str8frmthacr8
@str8frmthacr8 5 жыл бұрын
Audio engineer here myself. Don't know too much about shotgun mics, but for the Deity, would you be able to hook up a cloud lifter? 🤔 the swooshing is coming from boosting the mic levels, correct? If that's the case that just means it has a super low output. Most dynamic mics do. Maybe give that a shot and see how it sounds? This is what I recommend to anyone using a dynamic mic. Doesn't have to be a cloud lifter, possibly a sE electronics DM1. But these require phantom power so this may not be possible. Again, Idk much about filming but I hope this is possible and able to help. 🤘🏼
@Markus_Kennedy
@Markus_Kennedy 3 жыл бұрын
Brenden, I'm wondering now if the cut on your cheek in this video is from your live stream "action cam" setup hahaha kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e5aHgMZ9pquvn5c.html
@SoundSpeeds
@SoundSpeeds 5 жыл бұрын
Ok, I'm a professional boom operator in the film industry and have some input here. I've used all of these mics before and, quite honestly, there are a bunch of unfair tests here. Let's start with level matching... none of these mics are level matched which skews results. People are more accepting of things they hear slightly louder than others. I appreciate what you guys were doing and tests with this many mics isn't easy (so you deserve a lot of credit there) but I have to share my thoughts here. Test 1: Your mic cluster has all kinds of issues in it. Since they are jammed so tight together, you're changing the pickup patterns. Angled in, on the bottom with an fully open interference tube is the CMIT 5U. Of course it'll sound best in that circumstance and the Deity is literally jammed between 3 mics with the only open side facing up (away from your mouth). Since it's a supercardioid pattern mic, you're cutting into the pattern so of course it sounds thin. The Video Mic pro has foam around it and that space keeps other mics away from interfering with it's pattern. The 416 also sounds off because the slits are facing into other mics. I see what you're trying to do by testing so many mics but test 1 is skewed all over the place. Test 2: Again, in the array you show the mics are angled in and stacked on top of each other. I can't see which mic is where but all jammed together with zeppelins all over the place is going to affect the sound again. Off axis sounds can only be tested fairly if you level match, use the exact same zeppelins and don't have other mics or zeppelins coming between the mic and noise you're trying to reject. Test 3: Not fair for the CMIT and probably the others too. Again, jammed together and this time the CMIT is on the bottom where the element has to listen thru the slits and in the way are, you guessed it - other mics. You hear it being blocked because it goes slightly muffled and the level drops more than it should. Test 4: Sounds like a fair test to me. The Deity had a weird sound in there and definitely didn't win this one. I thought the others all sounded about the same on your voice... at least on KZfaq. Where it stands out thought is the background noise. The world around you seems most natural and attenuated on the CMIT followed by the 416 and the NTG3. Test 5: The tight cluster array where mics interfere with each other's pickup. Being closest to the wall reflection behind you will likely lead to picking up more reflections by the mic closest to that wall. Aside from that... The CMIT is a very bright mic with low noise and great reach and deserved to win but I still prefer the DPA 4017B which wasn't part of your test. I will add that if it were part of your mic cluster, I'm not sure it would have performed up to it's full potential either because the interference tube slit blockage might have skewed the sound. There's a lot to mic placement and anything directly up against a mic or even right next to it will affect the sound. Remember that the elements inside the mics need to hear out of the slits in order to sound accurate. The Video Mic Pro was very impressive in these tests but... I've used it before and the low end coloration gets to me when it's on top of a camera but did sound quite good in these tests - probably because it had the same wind protection in all environments, didn't have mics on it and wasn't on top of a camera. The 416 reach, natural noise floor and signature sound made it quite pleasant to listen to. I've used the NTG3 and it did sound very unaffected by most of your tests. I'd almost say it sounded better than I remember it and can't help but wonder if there was a little favoritism shown in it's place in the array because the two I've used didn't sound that good and natural. I own two of the S-Mic 2s and recognize what it does well and where it it is lacking but being honest, the clarity was off and it routinely sounded thinner than either of mine. I don't know why and don't believe you'd sabotage it so I'm wondering if it wasn't getting along well due to it's proximity near other mics when clustered. I went back and listened to my own review and compared it so I feel I'm being fair here. I would have loved to see a test with the mics right on top of your head barely out of frame. For many sit down interviews and vlogs, that's where you'll have it. I know I'm coming on kinda strong here and I'm sorry about that. What you did wasn't easy to do with so many mics and it's very difficult to be fair to all of them when trying to get them close enough to be positioned in roughly the same place. I can't help but feel that in post the results were also skewed on some tests because they weren't level matched. I made the same mistake by using the wrong level matching technique on many of my earliest videos so I recognize the importance. Thank you for doing this test and I wish you luck in all of your future tests.
@SoundSpeeds
@SoundSpeeds 5 жыл бұрын
@@fulltimefilmmaker I know how hard it is to compare 3 mics so 8... geez! Mad respect for what you're doing bro!
@SoundSpeeds
@SoundSpeeds 5 жыл бұрын
@@ThatAudioGuy Thank you and thank you for sharing that PDF. Checking it out now. So weird that they were level matched! They didn't sound it at all. Funny the tricks different sound waves play on the ear. In your opinion do you think that the positioning of the slits in the mics affected the results of your tests? During one of your earlier tests I could have sworn the Deity sounded kinda like it was in a tunnel. How about the CMIT in the leaning back and forward test? I used the CMIT on everything from Walking Dead to Stranger Things to Fast & Furious 6 and know how much it sucks in so it has me wondering.
@ThatAudioGuy
@ThatAudioGuy 5 жыл бұрын
@@SoundSpeeds Yeah it's wild. The most interesting thing to Doug and I (guy I mentioned in my video) is how different mics had different "compression". Not that they were compressed per se, which is why we avoided even bringing it up in the comments. But for example the Sanken seems to "compress" vocals more than something like the CMIT. To our ears it seemed to sound a lot more dynamic, making it "seem" quieter, when it actually wasn't. Wild. We spent a full day just listening through all the files and it was really interesting to say the least. I'd love to chat with you about it if you want to hop on a call. Super fascinating. I didn't feel like the slits affected the results as much as I thought it would have. The sound was more altered when we tried to space them apart, just because they were pointing in a different direction and causing off axis rejection. The Deity really was not a great mic for us. I don't know if it was the mic we have? Maybe a dud? I just wasn't impressed. Even when I was using it on its own not in the cluster it had that same sound characteristic. Really tinny sounding, and especially in the wide test it picked up SO much room it was just really unpleasant. The CMIT leaning around test rejected the most because it's SO focused compared to something like the Sanken. I love both of those mics. The CMIT (both in the test and on set experience) definitely sucks the vocal really really well. Which is why for the off axis rejection test we found it didn't hold the clarity, volume and bass like some of the other mics. The positive and the negative about that mic (depending on application of course.) At the end of the day, I find myself swing CMIT Sanken and the Schoeps 541 the most on shoots. They're all really really incredible microphones and I love how natural the Schoeps sound. I had a ton of people asking about different mics (including Parker which lead to this whole thing) and was curious myself how they would stack up against each other. Especially the Slate ML-2 microphone.
@SoundSpeeds
@SoundSpeeds 5 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of the Slate ML-2 but after hearing it on your channel, I've added it to my Amazon Shopping cart which is what i do to remind myself to investigate something later. Sounds fascinating. As for the Schoeps mics. I love the 561/641 but got over the sound of the CMIT after about a year of listening to it. The brightness started to get to me. Lately I've been into natural and flat sounding mics. Probably a reason why I love the DPA 4017B so much.
@ThatAudioGuy
@ThatAudioGuy 5 жыл бұрын
@@SoundSpeeds Yeah it's great. Like I said, wouldn't be my first choice for dialogue on a film set, but at that price point it's a great mic, plus all the emu's. That makes sense about the CMIT. I need to try out the DPA! I LOVE their lav mics
@saskelee
@saskelee 5 жыл бұрын
that audio guys just sitting there looking so proud
@thatmanjustyawned
@thatmanjustyawned 5 жыл бұрын
hahaha just like what I thought
@saskelee
@saskelee 5 жыл бұрын
@@thatmanjustyawned lol
@thatmanjustyawned
@thatmanjustyawned 5 жыл бұрын
I prefer the sound guy from the potato jet channel
@keith-kalfas
@keith-kalfas 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha. He's happy because he's in the zone.
@NickKautz
@NickKautz 4 жыл бұрын
He should have held form and slowly fallen forward out of shot onto the floor
@onemomentproductions-weddi595
@onemomentproductions-weddi595 5 жыл бұрын
TEST! 1 2 3 4 5...That is going to be stuck in my head now. Thank you for this.
@GuitarZero2Hero
@GuitarZero2Hero 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing video Parker! I just bought the NTG3 a week ago - had the same dilemma as you and was tossing up between the 416 and NTG3! Good to know i made the right choice. Keen to start implementing it in my vids :)
@Damageonthestack
@Damageonthestack 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. So much content concisely edited. And as a 416 owner, I was surprised at how good the NTG sounded in comparison.
@ThatAudioGuy
@ThatAudioGuy 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah that to me was one of the biggest surprises as well. I've been hearing for years that the NTG-3 is the "knock off" 416, but it was really hard to tell a difference a lot of times. And when you could, it was just "different" not necessarily better or worse. VERY impressed with the NTG-3
@Nate-zf8yf
@Nate-zf8yf 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for including the Videomic Pro in this review. I haven’t used it as a boom but even though it didn’t rank as high as the others, hearing its capability in those different scenarios encourages me to move forward with it in projects until I can upgrade.
@artysanmobile
@artysanmobile 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparo! I have used 416s for decades in really harsh situations and been amazed by the durability. Sonically, I was super impressed by the NTG3. If it comes anywhere close to the 416’s reliability, it’s a no-brainer.
@TommyCallaway
@TommyCallaway 5 жыл бұрын
I love my Sennheiser MKH-416. Never selling it, lol. I love comparison style / battle tests. Great work bro.
@therickestpicklerick
@therickestpicklerick 4 жыл бұрын
1:08 homie looks hella high
@ChaseCharifa
@ChaseCharifa 5 жыл бұрын
You are so awesome! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge to the youtube community. You have inspired me to start my youtube channel and shoot video properly. Your content is always so specific and so helpful. I was actually looking into buying the rode NTG so this is perfect timing.
@onemomentproductions-weddi595
@onemomentproductions-weddi595 5 жыл бұрын
@@fulltimefilmmaker Thank you! I am picking up the Rode NTG-3 from B&H as we type. lol great recommendation. I started my wedding company, One Moment Productions, last year and I will be joining full-time filmmaker to learn more. I was able to start with 5 weddings last year and with some of your tutorials, I am now booked this year for 10. Cant thank you enough. Side note, I shoot with Sony A7iii, so i am excited for your thoughts on it. I know that you are typically a canon user.
@InspireDose
@InspireDose 5 жыл бұрын
Parker Walbeck makes a post. I run! I grab my headphones. I set video to highest quality. I fall in love!
@MurrayFrost
@MurrayFrost 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine editing this. you would go crazy....
@michaelmannheim
@michaelmannheim 3 жыл бұрын
This video is EXACTLY what I needed :D :-) ! So relaxing to see that you dont get lost in all the technical details but instead just show me as a beginner what I need to know !!
@JVsGalacticAdventures
@JVsGalacticAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
What's the best mic setup for two people sitting side by side like you guys were in the video?
@Loqu4
@Loqu4 5 жыл бұрын
Watching this on an iphone xs Plus and there were ZERO differences between all the mics haha
@remikus
@remikus 5 жыл бұрын
ZERO difference on iPad as well LOL ... seems like Rode is the best ... 1/10 of the price of the most expensive one 😜 and sounds exactly the same
@robertadams3666
@robertadams3666 5 жыл бұрын
I had the same experience but then I watched this on my 4K tv with surround sound and there was definitely a difference between them. Also a difference when I watched it on my iPhone with my Bluetooth skull candy crusher headphones.
@colgatetoothpaste920
@colgatetoothpaste920 5 жыл бұрын
Are you on drug
@dirface
@dirface 5 жыл бұрын
You point makes ZERO sense as audio production isn't made on a phone.
@MarcinRutkowski
@MarcinRutkowski 4 жыл бұрын
I had to use my audio interface and mixing earphones to hear it. With it it's quite notiable.
@brown2840
@brown2840 10 ай бұрын
Surprised you didn't do a sensitivity and SNR test as those are incredibly important, but this was a fun video to watch.
@erikjuarezdk2367
@erikjuarezdk2367 5 жыл бұрын
This just proof, that i dont really have to change out my RVMP+ for any other mic with the type of videos i do. For the price its a damn good mic !! Great video!
@VitalisProd
@VitalisProd 4 жыл бұрын
Million years of editing and not getting confused and mistaken for each mic) Thanks, but for me they sound almost indentical
@maialinobabe4232
@maialinobabe4232 4 жыл бұрын
I am undecided between H2N / H4NPro / Shure VP83 / Azden SMX30 / RODE Stereo VideoMic shotgun. What do I need to do to use what advice? I register events, excursions, dialogues and film my children. Thank you
@patrickjdrahman
@patrickjdrahman 5 жыл бұрын
They legit all sound so similar... but thanks for the video Parker. I wanna learn more about audio. And thanks for having Brendo; he's hilarious lol and really smart.
@JeremyRatzlaff
@JeremyRatzlaff 5 жыл бұрын
I remember trying to decide between the 416 and the NTG3. Ended up talking to a professional sound guy who had experienced the NTG3 fail on him in the cold weather, and he swore up and down on the 416 for its ability to hold up in rougher conditions. So it's not a fair comparison to put up $$ tags next to only audio samples, there are other factors in the build quality and long term reliability that make the difference in price. Fortunately, I ended up finding an MKH-416 on eBay for less than the NTG3's retail price. :) Buy used if you can, especially because those mics are built like tanks.
@SeanCaldwellvo
@SeanCaldwellvo 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed...I have both and am glad I have the 416. If anyone else is searching for a used 416, just make sure it's a real one...there are knockoffs from China (a friend got burned by buying one in 2017). They can even sound similar to many. txsound.com/blog/obsession-with-fake-sennheiser-mkh416-microphones/
@AnamorphicArts
@AnamorphicArts 5 жыл бұрын
How impressive was the video mic pro considering! 😮 Awesome video Parker!
@Sutterjack
@Sutterjack 9 ай бұрын
I've used the 416 for years and I understand why it's a industry standard - very faithful sound and a workhorse mic for most environments. My biggest gripe is the it's so focused (a good and bad trait) that it's very unforgiving with following moving subjects - you have to be spot on.
@nickvandervegt
@nickvandervegt 5 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have come in at a more perfect timing. Had the Sennheiser in my cart and saw your video go up. Looks like I'm going for the Rode NTG-3!
@adityamaheshwari9150
@adityamaheshwari9150 5 жыл бұрын
I love every bit of your videos , I hate the time it takes you to create a new video , I die out of sheer wait
@GusDaCosta
@GusDaCosta 5 жыл бұрын
Poor Deity...☹️ I might be bias because I own one, but the NTG3 is a great mic and my favorite of all the mics tested.
@dietwedge
@dietwedge 5 жыл бұрын
We own and use the SMic 2, 416 and the NTG3 - I don't have the issue you hear with that Deity mic that they used here. The Deity more than holds it's own in all the testing we've done. It's a big improvement over the original, which we've had access to as well. We've been happy with the products they delivered.
@pathfinder9602
@pathfinder9602 5 жыл бұрын
this comparison is in many ways biased. you should check curtis on detailed review of every industry standard mic. kzfaq.infovideos
@XrayCinema
@XrayCinema 5 жыл бұрын
The fact that I don’t have to goto a fancy school to learn all this is definitely a motivator. Channels like this is the reason I spent everything I had on starting my production company, my first year as a director and you wouldn’t believe the progress I’ve made. #Xraycinema🎬
@HealMyTech1
@HealMyTech1 3 жыл бұрын
Well done for a great comparison video! looking to upgrade my audio so I will check out the NTG...!
@soacker25
@soacker25 5 жыл бұрын
NTG3- So good, gotta get one! The boss thing about the NTG3 is its has a damn low noisefloor and is quiet sharp/esssie... means if you slighty darken it up or eq it, it will be even silent. Maybe one, if not the most quiet shootgun on the market. The cmit and 416 sounds smooth inside but will lack in hf totally if used in a blimp (my opinion) outside. Never forget, you lose quiet a bit of sparkle in the high end this way. if you wanna restore it via eq you crank the mics self noise up badly. And the cmit is quiet noisy anyway. This is from a sounddesigners and mastering guys perspective. Im not talking about run and gun broadcasting and isolation.
@justfaisallatif
@justfaisallatif 4 жыл бұрын
hey Parker! i was hoping you could tell me what stand you are using to hold up your boom pole? and is there anything else i might need to hold it all up? thanks man!
@MyInstantSearch
@MyInstantSearch 5 жыл бұрын
I was just looking for this, Thanks Parker for the video. Should've included Senheiser MKE 600 and Rode NTG4 plus.
@MyInstantSearch
@MyInstantSearch 5 жыл бұрын
and here I came again to this video but this time for S-Mic 2
@jflachap
@jflachap 4 жыл бұрын
...and THAT...is how you make an excellent review video. Props Parker, Brendo. Way to set the pole...I mean the bar, on this one.
@qayoomkhiljivlog277
@qayoomkhiljivlog277 11 сағат бұрын
Can rode go 2 wireless mic used by professional filmmakers. Waiting for your response.. thanks
@HeavySpiral
@HeavySpiral 5 жыл бұрын
In this video we are going to focus on Mike's scar. It got me distracted. Also a side note, I've heard that the RodeVMP+ sounds better if you remove the foamy filter and use a rode deadcat instead. Haven't tried it yet though.
@suspendedsound
@suspendedsound 3 жыл бұрын
Guys! Incredible comparison video! Really appreciate the effort put into this. The edits were EXCELLENT for actual sonic comparisons. Gold standard for a video of this type.
@TheMadHermit
@TheMadHermit 5 жыл бұрын
Really thorough comparison. Thanks for taking the time to put this together!
@mpactdesignmedia
@mpactdesignmedia 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for this test! I will be picking up an NTG-3 due to it, possibly two. I'm tired of 'laving' on screen interviews up. Well done!
@maxgotts5895
@maxgotts5895 Жыл бұрын
I was trying to decide between the NTG3 and Deity S-Mic 2 (and the 416) for bioacoustic fieldwork in Panama-this was so helpful, thank you so much for this high-quality, well-thought-out series of tests. NTG3 purchased! ¡Muchas gracias!
@RUSVVO
@RUSVVO 4 жыл бұрын
It will be interesting to see the same comparison with new RODE Videomic NTG
@santiagorojasbarba8564
@santiagorojasbarba8564 5 жыл бұрын
So great parker! I immediately click on your videos, dont stop creating!
@hoopscoop2726
@hoopscoop2726 4 жыл бұрын
Easily the best channel on KZfaq for filmmaking tutorials...
@Dracomies
@Dracomies 4 жыл бұрын
I'm genuinely surprised at how fantastic the NTG 3 sounds, seems to sound just as fantastic as the 416 for a fraction of the price. Deity sounds much worse to the NTG3 and 416 - actually worse than all the other microphones here.
@oldoneeye
@oldoneeye 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’ve been going back and forth on which mic to get and it looks like the NTG3 is the best option - to I’ve saved me from considering the deity so thanks for that!
@jamestristanruiz1
@jamestristanruiz1 5 жыл бұрын
Makes me want to buy rode video mic pro+ For the price I think the quality is awesome But I got a bad experience with video mic go Got some problems with little use only just after the warranty expires Awesome video!
@ianmerenguez
@ianmerenguez 5 жыл бұрын
Finally, new video at my favorite filmmaker
@omerfit10
@omerfit10 5 жыл бұрын
5:22 PLZ somebody do a REMIX for this/:
@mlentsch
@mlentsch 5 жыл бұрын
Revisiting this months later to now agree with your findings. I hate my s-mic, now after "learning" to hear from months of real recording work. I pit it against an Octava w/hypercardioid and the Octava blew the s-mic away. Cheers-
@tjscottphoto
@tjscottphoto 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for this shotgun mic shootout. I almost bought the Senn 8060 until I saw this video. Now I am purchasing the Rode NTG3...thanks again!
@klamup
@klamup 3 жыл бұрын
The free bit of info about proper placement for movement what the bee's knees
@FoxWebSchool
@FoxWebSchool 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing video Parker - these detailed comparison videos are super valuable.
@miracledzns8615
@miracledzns8615 5 жыл бұрын
This video was extremely Helpful!!! EXTREMELY And I liked ur honest opinions Thanks for the help!
@the24hourlayover78
@the24hourlayover78 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video Parker, always love your videos.
@mattburlesonproductions1298
@mattburlesonproductions1298 5 жыл бұрын
Ive purchased from B&H before and the service was pretty efficient! My only problem with B&H is there ability to relay proper information concerning ETA's on gear on back order. For instance, I preordered the BlackMagicPocket CinemaCamera4K from them because they told me that it would take about 3-4 weeks for it to arrive (keep in mind that I preordered it in January after I spoke with them). My friend preordered his from another company who told him 4 weeks as well but got his after a week. So I called B&H and asked about an updated ETA on the BMPCC and they said it would arrive in April....I told them that they originally told me 4 weeks rather than 4 months and they said "Sorry, nothing we can do about that"...decided to cancel my preorder with them and place it with the company my friend got his from. Only instance where Ive been annoyed with their service. Awesome video though Parker, as always! Thanks!
@danilo352
@danilo352 5 жыл бұрын
Is there such a thing as color blindness for audio? I tried so hard but could barely notice any difference between them.
@CinemaSteve
@CinemaSteve 5 жыл бұрын
Wow that Deity sounded pretty terrible. My results matched Brenden almost every time so maybe I'm a snob? But holy cow I expected a bit more for $350 compared to the Rode hot shoe camera. I'm definitely gonna look for the NTG used. Much appreciated as I was looking at new mics!
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 жыл бұрын
He's gotta be doing something wrong. Checkout DSLR Video Shooter. He uses that mic exclusively with the Sound Devices Mix Pre 3 and it sounds incredible.
@ThatAudioGuy
@ThatAudioGuy 5 жыл бұрын
@@WhatAboutTom Definitely didn't do anything more than plug it in and push record. We did it in 3 scenarios and it performed the same consistently. We also did it at Parker's house (where we are in this video) and it yielded the same results. In the recap at the end of my video I mentioned how if you just used this mic on its own it would sound fine. But when you put it up against all of these other mics it really stands out how bad it was. Doug (the guy I do Audio Guy with) and I spent a full day going through blind tests of all the mics and critically listening to all the aspects. The Deity consistently came in last place in terms of tone quality against the others. Maybe we have a dud? But it was always "oh man...what is that mic?"
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 жыл бұрын
@@ThatAudioGuy What were you recording into? I also highly recommend you checkout Caleb from DSLR Video Shooter and tell me what you think, because these tests you did sound drastically different than what I hear from his videos.
@CinemaSteve
@CinemaSteve 5 жыл бұрын
@@WhatAboutTom I definitely trust Brenden more than a KZfaq review channel with Brenden's experience on set and mixing shoots. Unless I'm wrong about DSLR Video Shooter, but from his videos I haven't seen him or heard about current professional experience being an audio guy on sets consistently as a freelancer or him making his career by doing solely audio.
@ThatAudioGuy
@ThatAudioGuy 5 жыл бұрын
@@WhatAboutTom On mine we did Zoom F8 and on Parker's it was Zoom H6. Which video are you referring to? I mentioned in my video that the results will be different for every voice, location, and recording scenario. If it's this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/atOHhbR0tKm9h6c.html it's super close to his mouth. Which would make any mic sound pretty great. In a real world scenario (2.5-5 feet like we did in here) it's going to produce way different results. Between its sound and weight I would never use this in a professional context. Like I mentioned, it always sounds like a poorly placed lav mic to my ears. Even in his video it has the same gross sound that I was hearing in our tests, although because of distance it's a lot less exaggerated
@Albanez39
@Albanez39 5 жыл бұрын
Can you review and compare $60 - $200 shotgun mics? There are some VideoPro, Polsen, Boya mics that are very cheap but everyone seems to love them...
@MoCo_Filmmaker
@MoCo_Filmmaker 5 жыл бұрын
Woot!!! Always look for your videos man. Keep up the great content.
@StylishIrisman
@StylishIrisman 3 жыл бұрын
Ntg3 sounds amazing I realised the other day that I really like the sound of the ntg3 and this video proved it because I preferred it’s Audio in the blind test.
@WorldofThaiFood
@WorldofThaiFood 5 жыл бұрын
Very useful test/video. Thank you.
@AKSTUDIOUSA
@AKSTUDIOUSA 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I've been using NTG3 over 5 years and i love it very much.
@SinominStudios
@SinominStudios 5 жыл бұрын
Parker, can u make a video comparison, rode videomic go vs micro? I’m planning on buying my first dslr soon and cant decide which to get.
@andrewrice9383
@andrewrice9383 9 ай бұрын
Natural sound test 1 - neutral, pleasing. 2. Brighter, might work for more authoritative presentation. 3. Sharp, good for certain things. 4. Maybe nasally 5. Natural, a bit bright All good for different situations, 3 is the only one I would really avoid. I like the dark character of number one, which I would guess is the deity. Edit: all right, the deity is brighter than I gave credit for. Some of the rode video mic models are hit and miss but I like that one on your voice in this scenario. Most likely, the playback system will have a stronger influence on which one sounds best than the microphone itself. As well as the voice and the room.
@JeffTaylor
@JeffTaylor 3 жыл бұрын
Great mic review!
@lukejaque-rodney
@lukejaque-rodney 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review thanks so much
@str8frmthacr8
@str8frmthacr8 5 жыл бұрын
Audio engineer here myself. Don't know too much about shotgun mics, but for the Deity, would you be able to hook up a cloud lifter? 🤔 the swooshing is coming from boosting the mic levels, correct? If that's the case that just means it has a super low output. Most dynamic mics do. Maybe give that a shot and see how it sounds? This is what I recommend to anyone using a dynamic mic. Doesn't have to be a cloud lifter, possibly a sE electronics DM1. But these require phantom power so this may not be possible. Again, Idk much about filming but I hope this is possible and able to help. 🤘🏼
@PatentSTM
@PatentSTM 3 жыл бұрын
this is a crucial test among those mics...
@kerbosee
@kerbosee 5 жыл бұрын
That Rode NTG-3 is the goat. For most small budgets and stuff I can't seem to justify the CMIT's price tag but I'm usually helping fund my projects myself. It's nice to see how well the Rode really holds up. Might have to add the NTG-3 to my kit and stop renting stuff so often.
@JoeZahaitis
@JoeZahaitis 5 жыл бұрын
Perfect. Just the comparison I was looking for. Probably go NTG3 with you when I get there (not too long but not just yet) but those exact others were the perfect comparisons that I was looking to "shotgun mike shoot off". Thanks guys.
@ClearCallMinistries
@ClearCallMinistries 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys! Awesome and super helpful comparison!
@theoakwoodguy
@theoakwoodguy 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Parker and Brendo! Very useful information!
@bryanrodriguez6731
@bryanrodriguez6731 5 жыл бұрын
Can you pleaaaase do a tutorial on iPhone X Max videography tips! and color grading!! :)
@nathanielhawthorne704
@nathanielhawthorne704 3 жыл бұрын
Nice thumbnail really says everything we can expect from the video🙏
@newlifeeveryday1821
@newlifeeveryday1821 2 жыл бұрын
I am a newbie to the world of sound and would be grateful if you could answer a question: I record video on my Sony A7iii of streams and rivers and want to add high quality sound to the video. I can't figure out the equipment I need to accomplish this result. I could use a RODE Stereo VideoMic X which seems to be the simplest answer but many people seem to attach Zoom F6 devices to their camera along with mics and other equipment. What kind of configuration or equipment would you suggest buying if I want to add very high quality sound to my videos of streams and rivers ? Is the Sennheiser MKH-416 the right mic for the job ( I keep reading it is the industry standard but I am pretty sure it is unidirectional so will that be a problem if I want to record streams and rivers in nature ). Thank you.
@FridayEveryday
@FridayEveryday Жыл бұрын
The Schoeps cmit 5u is a fantastic microphone ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ - not only for voice recording in the studio/field but also for recording acoustic instruments. In many ways it has the same sound/capabilities of a large diaphragm mic.
@MystiqWisdom
@MystiqWisdom Жыл бұрын
It's 3x the price of the NTG-3 and more than double the 416, bro. It better be the best. If you look at the trophies and the prices, the NTG-3 is the clear winner.
@DillonLoomis
@DillonLoomis 5 жыл бұрын
Hey man! Question for you. So I have been teaching myself about codecs lately and I notice that all of the KZfaq videos that discuss export settings from Adobe Premiere Pro to KZfaq recommend the H.264 file format. I have been wondering to myself, why not H.265 since it's newer, better and uses smaller file sizes? So I decided to do a test on my own channel by exporting the exact same video twice with the only difference being using H.264 on one and H.265 on the other. Once I uploaded to KZfaq (privately listed) and played them back the H.265 (HEVC) was NOTICEABLY clearer and sharper. Am I missing something on why everyone is still recommending H.264? Thank you!
@simmiist
@simmiist 5 жыл бұрын
To be honest, there is no big difference in sound. Maybe it is the KZfaq compression? (Using the DT 1770 Headphones)
@rag3geCKo
@rag3geCKo 5 жыл бұрын
No difference worth $1000. :D
@reflexfilms
@reflexfilms 5 жыл бұрын
Shout out to the legendary sound guys across the planet. When you work a shoot and edit where there is a budget for a sound pro you get gold! Its a shame there seems to be less work for these guys as video shooters are often working as a one man band doing their own sound. (I wish it wasn't so!) On the sets i have been on - the sound guys seem to be the most enthusiastic movie aficionados on set - ironic but true? Remember the saying - "great audio is very visual."
@raypic
@raypic 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome Review guys, thanks for giving the sound the importance it deserves.
@WOTheRobin
@WOTheRobin 4 жыл бұрын
You just saved me some bucks not buying the Deity S-mic. Think I will continue working with the Video Mic Pro+ and think more about the room and positions!
@andrewhutto5269
@andrewhutto5269 5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see another collab with you two comparing popular lav mic setups like the rode, tascam, senn and etc. Great review guys!
@andrewhutto5269
@andrewhutto5269 5 жыл бұрын
@@fulltimefilmmaker Just subbed to his channel. Thanks! Can't wait to see your thoughts about the A7III. I shot with canon for about a year, then found that Sony offered a great low light camera at an affordable price, absolutely fell in love with the camera. I appreciate your honest reviews from a pro filmmaker's point of view. Your tips and reviews always stand out from the rest.
@zubair.asyraf
@zubair.asyraf 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison parker, really in the market for a nice boom mic that could last me years of use..
@Joeteck
@Joeteck 4 жыл бұрын
What about Shotguns mics that are not name brand and are Sub $200? There has to something worth it. They make them and sell them. Have that video? I can't afford anything in this video. Can you help?
@raimanenglishmusic2146
@raimanenglishmusic2146 5 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely fantastic! You guys know EXACTLY what we watchers are looking for! Thanks so much for paying attention and delivering to us! Two questions! 1. In a scene shooting an interview of two people with one camera. Sometimes people turn their heads away from the mic. Any thoughts on the mic performance when it comes to this? Will placement do the trick? ... or would a lav be possibly better? 2. I have a supercardiod vocal mic - the neumann kms 105. I looked at the polar pattern compared to the NTG3 and it's less directional even though they're both supercardiod, but any thoughts on using it as a boom mic for video? (and also super/hypercardiod vocal mics in general)
@ThatAudioGuy
@ThatAudioGuy 5 жыл бұрын
1. With people turning their heads, it comes down to placement and also planning for it. That's why people actively boom rather than locking it off on a c stand. If it makes sense, I usually have people redo the take. 2. Give it a shot and see if it sounds good!
@raimanenglishmusic2146
@raimanenglishmusic2146 5 жыл бұрын
@@ThatAudioGuy Thank you! I'm not going to active boom two people at the same time so I'll have them speak in one direction 😏 And as for the mic! Sounds like a plan! Will let you know the results!
@PavelSupanenka
@PavelSupanenka 3 жыл бұрын
NTG3 is still my favorite mic. Love it
@priestlygarments4004
@priestlygarments4004 3 жыл бұрын
Hey? Which extension cable should I use for my ntg to mount on my boom pole for my canon 90D? I got the rode VC1 10 inch cable but it keeps cutting out and I hear static. Which extension cable should I buy or what can I use to extend the cable?
@The_Drive_Inside
@The_Drive_Inside 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video... helped me a lot
@ll-mel
@ll-mel Жыл бұрын
Excellent review. One question though: Do you have any idea about the life span of a Rode NTG-3? (I recently ordered a pre owned one that released about 10 years ago)
@TheInventar
@TheInventar 5 жыл бұрын
To put the Rode Video mic pro plus you need to use it without the foam. You'll be blown away with the results!!
@UnitedDestinyEntertainment
@UnitedDestinyEntertainment 5 жыл бұрын
I don't have to boast on my audio experience. film and audio are both my profession for many years. Here is my thoughts, the rode video would be the better option on budget if you can't afford the ntg-3. I do agree the ntg-3 is just a solid overall sounding mic in most applications, including the open reflective room. I can tell the difference of each mic easily. My ears are that solid. I would also recommend not spending a dime on the cmit microphone. The price didn't match the quality just as the U87 for neumann microphones don't also perform well with every talent that uses it. It sounded decent but definitely not worth the asking price. The other solid sounding option was the sennheiser. Although it wasn't perfect, it peformed very well retaining the true sound of the midtones even in the reflective room which was nice. Most of the mics did a great job focusing on the audio close to it in proximity or range. The deity sounded awful and is a complete waste of money. I wouldn't use that microphone unless you have really solid audio editing skills in post.
@hcl8836
@hcl8836 3 жыл бұрын
I was considering the NTG-3 for long now but after watching this i clearly tend to the 416. The frequency response is more natural. There is something in the lower mids in the NTG-3 which can't be taken out with an EQ without interfering with the fundamental frequency of most human voices while some booming in the bass area can easily be corrected with a low shelf or cut. The high frequency responce is also a bit harsh. Yes that's probably on a nitpicking level for most viewers but if i spent that much money the additional 300 bucks are worth it.
@ili6065
@ili6065 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review!!!!!!!
@BrandonCawood
@BrandonCawood 5 жыл бұрын
I would have loved to see the NTG4+ in this video, good stuff though! I've shot with the NTG4+ for about a year now and I love it. the NTG3 is next on the list though. Moving away from a lav mic was the best thing I've ever done for my videos. Keep these great videos coming Parker, and Brenden you now have a new subscriber.
@alamdaali8776
@alamdaali8776 4 жыл бұрын
What mic do you think they use in MAHOGANY SESSIONS??? PLEASE TELL MEEEE
@This-Is-Austin
@This-Is-Austin 3 жыл бұрын
dude brando so chill.
@crd7876
@crd7876 2 жыл бұрын
Feels good to have picked all the same shit as your audio homie in my run through of the video
@nexttvc
@nexttvc 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you amazing video learned a lot.
@CarFinanceSimplified
@CarFinanceSimplified 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant test - many thanks!
@dylanj8676
@dylanj8676 2 жыл бұрын
12:38 that face says "just get a used NTG3"
@MichaelWTurner
@MichaelWTurner 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice test. The NTG3 is definitely the best bang for buck
@Excellent2009able
@Excellent2009able 2 жыл бұрын
Could you recommend a decent Cam Mic for recording music live ?it’s for live street gigs (I think a shotgun would be fine as it would be directed at an AER Domino 2A Amp.. We tried using an Apogee MiC (just perfect for live ‘indoor’ venues but too clean for outdoor gigs) I came across a few cam mics on eBay that I thought may suit & well priced , sE Electronics ProMic Laser, Deity D3, Rode video mic pro & Sennheisers.. I’m guessing the Sennheisers & Deity maybe a little bright? Does a deadcat soften the high end detail more or maybe too much compared to a foam windshield ? I would still like to have a little street ambience. Thanks 🙏🏻
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