Shotokan Black Belt Test Kumite

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ISKF Black Belt Test Philadelphia 2010

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@stevebrindle1724
@stevebrindle1724 3 жыл бұрын
They could do with a few more examiners on that front bench!
@mauricefaulkner455
@mauricefaulkner455 2 жыл бұрын
Lol they've got less on strictly come dancing
@DJAraRealSalsa
@DJAraRealSalsa 22 сағат бұрын
😂
@raihanislamchowdhury6835
@raihanislamchowdhury6835 Жыл бұрын
After being into kyokushin kumite all my time.. shotokan kumite doesn't feel in place formfull contact.. yeah it's good for sport point style kumite.. but when it comes to full contact i would say kyokushin is more preferred according to me
@JoesGeekShow
@JoesGeekShow 9 ай бұрын
I myself started Karate in Shotokan and learned kumite this way. Almost 3 years ago my family and i moved and I had to find a new Dojo to train and the only one was Kyokushin. It's definitely a different beast and feels more practical and I honestly enjoy it more. It would be really hard to go back to Shotokan style sparring
@tadaaaa952
@tadaaaa952 29 күн бұрын
@@JoesGeekShow Black belt in Shotokan, tried kyokoshin for about 4 months. I did find the kicks much better, and the greater focus on take downs useful. But I really hated the punches. (the style) and the fact I couldnt go for the head.
@JoesGeekShow
@JoesGeekShow 28 күн бұрын
@@tadaaaa952 yeah the punching is always going to be more preferential. I think Kyokushin overall has more devastating punches and kicks, although the lack of head punching is a shame sometimes. But if I had to choose I would still go with Kyokushin because while Shotokan gave me really good footwork I struggled with pulling my punches and kicks a lot in the beginning. It would now be so hard to adapt back to a light contact style with sparring.
@tadaaaa952
@tadaaaa952 28 күн бұрын
@@JoesGeekShow Yeah I loved the full contact aspect. Made it more real, But then I had my front teeth knocked back to a wobble (they recovered) from a kick in shotokan when I was 15. I'm trying boxing now i'm 45 and thats pretty darn good, but they were very annoyed with my lack of face guarding at first. (and they were right) Boxing really works, It's been properly tested for real fights. From my experience I think thai boxing is likely the most all rounded that combines kicks, viable blocks, and all parts of the body. Add a bit of judo and you have an all round useful art. But then MMA has proven a lot of this. I still love Karate, but I understand it's limitations.
@bogse
@bogse Жыл бұрын
Question: In usual Shotokan kumite can you only do certain movements or can you "free fight" so to speak? I mean Im a "jumpy" guy and like to stay in fast motion and do jump kicks which are my own style, didnt learn them anywhere. Can I use these in Shotokan kumite? Ive trained other MA but just a beginner in Shotokan and going to my first kumite lessons. Dont get mad at me but it feels kind of stupid if you cant free fight. I understand that in competition there are rules what you can do but in kumite there shouldnt, in a street fight everything is allowed and in my opinion Shotokan kumite should also teach a student to be prepared to any "street fight" and that means you can do what ever you see is useful in that situation. Shotokan is when you are good at it very powerful in street fight (like any other MA) but if kumite is restrcted in just certain moves I feel "prisoned" or restricted to fight worse than I really could fight. Opinions of my thoughts?
@Dankelheit
@Dankelheit Жыл бұрын
They are "free fighting". That's what kumite is. They are testing for their blackbelts and thus must show their fighting skills IN KARATE. Because that's all is being judged, the karate. Karate doesn't grapple on the ground for a reason. It was originally developed to defend against an armed attacker or multiple.
@bogse
@bogse Жыл бұрын
@@Dankelheit Ok thank you. So it is restricted to certain zukis and geris ex. if you would do a flying knee to the chin wouldnt be karate move and you would fail or at least noticed not to do "weird" movements outside of karate. I dont know, maybe everything is allowed except grapple on the ground. Also maybe it would be extrely hard to do flying knee against karateka. Im sure I will learn and understand this stuff later.
@Dankelheit
@Dankelheit Жыл бұрын
​ @Bogse's soultrain absolutely not limited to certain techniques. More like following the ethos and logic of karate. That said, there are so many different styles and ethos of karate. Some even grapple on the ground(Kudo). Some fight till knockdown(kyokushin). Some use swords and sais. Karateka absolutely do flying knees. Check out MVP's in bellator. Cracked Cyborgs skull. The karate is in no way restricting anybody from doing anything in a "free fight". This black belt kumite is literally called free fighting. A trained fighter will always beat an untrained one if everything else is equal. When you're self trained or a "street fighter" you have no technique because you wouldn't even know enough about fighting/martial arts to know what you don't know. See street fight videos and people literally flail at each other because they never learned how to throw a proper tsuki Anyway, you have the right mentality as a yellow belt to question things and see why they work and I'm sure you'll progress a lot farther OSS
@tadaaaa952
@tadaaaa952 29 күн бұрын
@@bogse Once you get to black belt a good club will teach you to shorten everything and make things practical. Everything up to blackbelt is training muscle memory, once there, then you can shorten and loosen up, and adapt the moves you have programmed into your body. Full technique blocks simply dont work in kumite, or anywhere else. Simply put you cant react and get there before a guy who threw a punch unless you knew in advance it was coming. So boxer defence with all your blocks minimised and shortened. Don't do stiff stepping punches, instead fast on your feet lunges to get distance folllowed by combinations. tap someones foot for example as if going for a sweep then go in for a long punch to the chest. Karate gets a bad rep in real life situations as much of it in its taught form does not work. BUT it WILL work if you use all that muscle memory to do things faster, looser, shorter, and less "full form".
@Simon0
@Simon0 9 жыл бұрын
just started shotokan karate and learned the stance and a few punches. Still have no idea how it is going to transfer to free sparring!
@mooselee902
@mooselee902 5 жыл бұрын
partner drills
@Rashidamin
@Rashidamin 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the club, actually anything that works goes 😆
@tadaaaa952
@tadaaaa952 29 күн бұрын
Shorten everything, be way more loose on your feet than static stances, combos are not somthing you learn much in training, so join together urakens, yamazuki etc... and hold your guard up higher than they teach you, blocks rarely work, if you do use blocks use them in a shortened form from a boxing pose. (elbow flicks, wrist twists, or move to avoid and use blocks to reposition the person past you as they travel and hit them in the sides or back even.
@Simon0
@Simon0 28 күн бұрын
@@tadaaaa952 thanks very much. I had some things happen (private really 😛) and ended up stopping. Thanks anyway! Free sparring never clicked but I loved doing katas
@falastineshatila67
@falastineshatila67 Жыл бұрын
Wow 13 or 14 Examiners at the table? 1 examiner is more then enough for this high velocity high impact.................something.
@slurmforfree1754
@slurmforfree1754 6 жыл бұрын
The right guy did not make a single technique with kime. Whats wrong there? Why are they wearing protectors? As a Black Belt you should be able to control yout techniques.
@putty2812
@putty2812 5 жыл бұрын
a lot of clubs have to wear protective gear or it invalidates the insurance which sadly is a sign of the times we live in
@etrijuni
@etrijuni 3 жыл бұрын
I showed this video to my senpai. According to him, it is because not ALL blackbelts are REALLY black belts. Some dojos make it easy (too easy, IMHO) to their kohai to get black belt. Some even only need 2-3 years to get a black belt. At our dojo, it takes AT LEAST 4 years to earn a black belt, if you practice at least 3 times a week AND show significant progress. There is someone at our dojo who has been practicing Shotokan for almost 8 years now, and hasn't earned his black belt. Our senpai thinks he is not yet deserve a black belt. He is stuck at brown, kyu-1. Me? I've been practicing Shotokan for two years and stucked at orange. But one day, some students from other dojo came to train with us. Much younger than me (I am 40 by the way). They are blue and brown belts. I was surprised to see how awful their stamina were. Their stances were awfull too, let alone their zuki and geri. My senpai had to repeatedly correct their stances and movements. After the training, with a big smile my senpai told me, "Now you know that color doesn't matter. I could give you a green belt, or even blue or brown, but I won't until I think you deserve it." I agree.
@iagoaraujo617
@iagoaraujo617 3 жыл бұрын
@@etrijuni in my dojo (2 x week) we need 7 years to get black belt
@konohagakurejonin4461
@konohagakurejonin4461 2 жыл бұрын
@@etrijuni Good for you, compared to others, you are training in the right place.
@moeshow22
@moeshow22 8 жыл бұрын
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