Happy to help!

Yes! Pigments is a great synth to start with.

After having pigments for a while, the fact that Serum looks more minimalist and has less going on actually attracts me because pigments can be alot to take in. I was considering buying Serum but pigments just came out with an update that has a "Play" option where it's more minimalist and easy for someone to jump in and just create. You are right about Serum having more third party support and sound banks though

@@zen_nabu Yea I'd agree with that, less is more sometimes. The new Play option is great and makes Pigments more accessible.

Good insight!

Thanks so much for the encouragement. Yes - something about serum really does create a non nonsense work flow that definitely helps you get right to creating. Pigments has a wider array of synthesis types, but you can really create almost anything in Serum.

Both options are absolutely solid. I go back and fourth constantly.

Now it's obviously Pigments since it's only been getting updates since then, while Serum is still the same old tale.

Hahaha exactly this, so dumb. Also comparing the 2 most basic waves on different volumes

Yes! For me I think of that more as an audio effect rather than having it on the part of the synth where sound is shaped. In pigments there are two filters on the front panel and an additional one in the FX panel. I guess it all depends how you look at it.

Glad you enjoyed! They would both work just fine with Gig Performer. Depends which you like working with better.

Malcolm Hodnett If you’re looking to have access to a wide range of synthesis options pigments is definitely a good way to go. Let us know what you end up deciding when your trials are over!

Oli Chromoly true.....

Useful points! Serum is hard to compete with. Which other devices are you using for granular and virtual analogue?

@@LiveKeyboardist Mostly stock Reason devices like Grain and Thor

Thor is one of my favorites. Haven’t used grain yet. But I do really like granulator 2 for max for live.

-zoave - sometimes price will do it. Arturia does run exceptional sales.

Yeah right :)

Where did you find that pricing?

@@OscarFromIndia He probably got it bc he had other instrument(s) registered already.

No, I don't have another Arturia product. I think one time they do a massive offer, but I don't know if they will do it again. I buy it to a guy who buy Pigments at the same price, 50€, but I don't know how and when.

Thanks for reaching out Ian! Noticed this as well and have one on the way!

I agree, I actually think Pigments finds it hard to push out warm, rich tones like Serum. I feel like Arturia needs to work on the sound engine just a little bit more. I find I have to use a few other VSTs in conjunction with Pigments to push out the richness I get naturally from Serum.

You are asking the right questions! Ableton suite needs no other VSTs to make great music. It’s certainly optional. As to why people are interested, IMO there are two reasons. First of all, some people just really like new gear. They think a new VST will fix their problem or magically make their music better. This is not true of course. Developing your skills is the only way to do that. The other group uses VSTs for something specific. For example, serum allows you to draw your own Wavetable shapes. Ableton’s built in ”Wavetable” let’s you make Wavetables from audio but not from drawing. Sometimes VSTs come with a larger number of presets which can be desirable. Other times a vst Does something slightly better. This might be the case with EQ8 vs FabFilter. Mostly though, you can accomplish almost identical things with stock devices and VSTs Hope this helps!

@@LiveKeyboardist Thank you! This helps a lot!

they also sound different, even tough the differences are way less than it is with hardware synths.

Serum truly is a beast. Runs a little lighter at well. But as you said. Both are great tools.

I got it for $70.00. 😁🎵🎹🎶

does anyone know of a pattern on when it normally goes on sale? I plan on waiting but I am just wondering when I can expect it to go on sale.

There is some overlap. I have and use both and don't feel like it's overkill. Pigments is also on sale right now I believe, so would be a good time to buy. Pigments has some extra features that Serum doesn't; A granular synth, an extra oscillator, and analog model. I think they compliment well. I've got a purchase link in the description of this video if you decide to grab a copy of pigments.

You know, It's not too terrible. I am able to run it while performing live (but only one or two instances). Anything that is too heavy I will ussually resample. But I would say that is true of any synth i use.

Dude, that’s fucking facts bruh xD Massive x be hitting my cpu hard asf, not even as much as serum or phase plant. Tbh, that’s prob why I haven’t been wanting to use it :v

Absolutely you can. I have and use both.

@@LiveKeyboardist Thanks for the reply. I have Pigments 2 and maybe I will get Serum as well.

Serum is really great. Each program has its own special things, but I know you won’t be disappointed with it if you do decide to go that route

@@LiveKeyboardist Thanks!

Yes! I actually have upgraded since filming this video for that exact reason. A little windshield went a long way. Thanks for watching!

Great recommendation. What do you like about hive 2?

@@LiveKeyboardist the work flow is Kinda odd but I’m still diving into it now if you want massive low end for sub basses in Trap a super good one would be repro

But I usually go to Reaktor 6 Monark more

@@LiveKeyboardist im getting pigments tho i just demoed and i loved it

The workflow pigments pigments is top-of-the-line. It just feels good to use. Shouldn’t be overlooked for sure

I’ve found both to run quite well on my computer. Which synths do you recommend?

get a good computer lmao