Amazon handpan with & without protective rubber rim?
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@midnightsun955910 күн бұрын
Thank you Max & Chloe! My handpan is the much maligned Amazon handpan. It was advertised as the last one available. The sample video sounded good enough for my beginner status so I bought it. I was pleased that it was in good tune when I got it. When I checked it against the manufacturer's video that had many "artistic" close ups, I realized it was the same handpan with the same hammer marks and nitriding patterns. Of course it was in good tune - who would feature an out-of-tune😮 instrument? I lucked out there. I heard a distinct difference between with and without the rubber rim; there is more sustain and almost an "ember steel" sound. I am going to pull the rubber rim tomorrow to check out your findings. It's interesting you tried this as I have done just the reverse on my tongue drums. I use them for music therapy in an elder care memory facility. I bought a few inexpensive small tongue drums. Mostly they sounded, as the residents said, "tanky", except for one that has a rubber mid section. I found the the rubber was removable but then the sweet sounding drum sounded "tanky". When the rubber "belt" was placed around the other"tanky" sounding drums, they sounded sweet. I couldn't find any of the rubber belts for sale by themselves so I wrapped the beltless tongue drums with 1/4" soft hand cut deerskin thongs several times around. It works as well as the rubber belt, stays where you put it, is easily removed, comes in several natural colors and looks cool. If you want it, you can get it from Crazy Crow Trading Post online.
@maxandchloemeditation8 күн бұрын
hi there. There is no right, the is no wrong. You think out of the box, I applaud that. Having or using covered/padded mallets help as well. I do have a video on how to make your own covered/padded mallets using old gloves. on the drums- and if you crochet- you can make your own edge covers. I have them on most of my handpans. Have a blessed day!
@NRnrNnrNRАй бұрын
Hi, Max & Chloe, First few views and comment on your channel for me! Might I add that I'm glad to have found you! Grand stuff, I do say! Regarding the content of the video and the differences heard/perceived in the comparison: Upon looking for examples of the cheaper handpans that are becoming readily available, and the relating dubiousness that such entails, I followed a comment and found this video. The only amz/tem/ali example/recording, of which I've found that has removed the rubber rim protector... There's a huge difference between the two, in my humble, honest, minimally learned, opinion. Enough so that you might well have just aided in the conformation that I'd be content with a factory-made, mass-produced handpan to commence my journey into a realm, that'd otherwise be at present a somewhat expenisvely uncertain and alas, financially out of reach journey for me! If I was to recieve an unblemished, tuned pan from one of the import sites that sounds as this one does, I certainly wouldn't regret the purchase, regardless of being limited to one scale, compromising of 10 notes and however many chords that two hands has the potential to make! The overall change/contrast of the sounds envolope (ie. attack/sustain/decay) is definitely noticeable. The second, de-rubbered rim, being a more postive, favourable, reasurring, meditive factor might I add! Do I sense slightly more overtone/harmoic register? There's certsinly more 'colour'/brightness, and the gentle, immersive soundscape that one would wish to frequent. I'm only observing and listening through a (few year old flagship) Samsung and it's in built Dolby Atmos speaker and could literally feel the soundwave difference in my fingertips! Upon further reflection: I did notice that your playing naturaly switched up a level once you'd removed the rubber and sample a few notes/percusive techniques. Also, upon finishing the second sound deml, the little "hm!" of which you expressed was defiantly perceivable a pleasant suprise! Im conclusion: I don't believe I'd have been able to tell the difference between the mass produced being demonstrated and a more expensive handcrafted one. At least listening to a recording through a handheld device, that is. The rubber rim protector definitely provides a muting, 'flattening' effect and I can only presume that they're intended for shipping purposes. Out of curiosity: Do the artisans handmade handpans typically come shipped with them? I do really want to sample a cheaper handpan now, I think that it'd be a good entry-point for a novice pauper such as myself! Thank you for your video(s), skill, time and useful insight! I look forward to more of your appeasing
@maxandchloemeditationАй бұрын
Good Morning ! and a big HELLO! Thank you for your comments! Inexpensive handpans has definitely changed many people's perspectives. Production and quality has definitely improved - A LOT. All said, a lot of people especially the "handpan masters" still labelled these inexpensive handpans- a stigma- as cheap toys. AND utterly, looked down upon. Frowned- in so many words....... I would love to see everyone owning a high quality, artisan handpan. Hand made, blood , sweat and tears- and LOVE -- involved in the process of making it. In the real world...and reality, Not everyone can afford that, or willing to. In the term of comparison. YES, there are and will be subtle(or many) differences between artisan(handmade) and machine made(mass produced) Handpans. Buying from site like AMAZON....and only through Amazon PRIME sellers is the only method I wd recommend buying from. Massed drums....and especially many resellers- buys theirs from factories. To be able to SELL as the cheapest price, they purchased the lowest grade rejects or what the factory deemed damaged(or unsellable to their standard) You can definitely hear the differences when you play the artisan & the mass produced side by side. It may be subtle....but definitely, noticeable. As you mentioned, the ADSR.... The massed produced drums usually will have shorter decay and sustain.Then we move forward to how long will these massed pan hold their tuning, their stability. I had mine for a little over 4 years now(my Asteman)....and the notes are all still in tune. And that, was being played a lot- by other adults and children. The rubber rim- so far to my knowledge- that all massed drums comes with it. on one of my student's drum, the sides or edges wasn't finished properly and was...kinda sharp. Hence, the rubber band- to protect users. And...and but yes, removing it does opened up the harmonics and sustain quite a bit. Then again, to some....they might prefer a more muted, porcelain-like sounds. Subjective to all. Conclusion......Get what you can afford. Enjoy what you "can" have. While I wholeheartedly would love for everyone to own and play an artisan pan, it's not reality to many. Enjoy the journey, YOUR journey. Have a blessed day.
@dsmiddy23745 ай бұрын
To me it sounds brighter. More upper mids. I like it more with the rim.
@maxandchloemeditation3 ай бұрын
It is brighter. The rim made it more "muted". I guess you can say....the sounds are more "contained", minus the rim- you can hear the ringing harmonics- that some may prefer. Its almost like stainless steel handpan vs ember steel.....vs raw steel....and nitrided....Have a blessed day!
@yeahsooo3 ай бұрын
I kept going back to the beginning and then up to where you are now and there is a little bit of a difference.I think the sound may hang on a little bit longer with band off.But other than that they both sound good
@maxandchloemeditation3 ай бұрын
hey...I think with the band off, the sounds are a bit brighter as well.... the band does "mute" the sounds a bit. at the end, all personal preference. Have a great day!
@meandjulie-ld6nh9 ай бұрын
I like it better without the rubber stuff.very subtle difference.
@maxandchloemeditation9 ай бұрын
it's very subtle. I find the sounds are a tad brighter as well. have a great day.
@DoranMitchell_Handpan9 ай бұрын
Hmmmm sounds better.
@maxandchloemeditation9 ай бұрын
GM! how are ya? well....a tad.....to the player(in front of pan)...I think you can hear the difference. The harmonics tend to excel a bit- in a good way- I guess without the rim, it's allowing the pan to "breathe" a bit. With the rim, the sounds are more "rounded"-you can say "more stability"(when you measure the sounds with a tuner). So subjectively, it's up to the player and what kind of sounds he or she is seeking. A broader, more harmonics overtones or more controlled, muted tones. Have a blessed day, my friend.