Should pensioners pay more tax? Feat. Ann Widdecombe & Bobby Seagull | Jeremy Vine

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2 ай бұрын

Shadow Chancellor Rachel Reeves has been criticised after appointing an advisor who once said that 'codger' pensioners were part of 'an under-taxed generation'.
Sir Edward Troop, a former head of HMRC, said in 2019 that baby boomers such as himself 'have had it ridiculously good' and should cough up more now.
Since his remarks, income tax thresholds have been repeatedly frozen. Around 650,000 lower income pensioners will be dragged into paying income tax as a result.
And this week, it was revealed that almost half a million OAPs are raiding pension pots early to cope with surging remortgage rates.
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@stuartregan1627
@stuartregan1627 Ай бұрын
Lowest pension in the western world & they want to tax that pittance. Disgusting.
@christinepalmer935
@christinepalmer935 Ай бұрын
that fact is always forgotten
@denisburgess2966
@denisburgess2966 Ай бұрын
​ts not forgotten its deliberately not mentioned.
@kevinsyd2012
@kevinsyd2012 Ай бұрын
If you have only the State pension then you're NOT paying tax. Get your facts right.
@user-qy9rt9cy2b
@user-qy9rt9cy2b Ай бұрын
Tax pensions people are struggling on the government pensions as it is .
@kevinsyd2012
@kevinsyd2012 Ай бұрын
@@user-qy9rt9cy2b No they are not struggling, it's all social media nonsense.
@jujutrini8412
@jujutrini8412 Ай бұрын
1 in 4 pensioners is a millionaire? Not in my bl@@dy neck of the woods they aren’t! 😂😂😂
@damionkeeling3103
@damionkeeling3103 Ай бұрын
They mean they live in a house which is worth a million or thereabouts. These scum have created the situation where house prices have shot through the roof and now they want pensioners living in their own homes to re-mortgage or sell. The last thing they want is for the capital gain in those homes to be passed on to the children of those pensioners. Only the super rich are allowed to pass on assets.
@NorfolkCatKickers
@NorfolkCatKickers Ай бұрын
I think its property + plus the predicted value of the pension, but yeah still seems high
@user-zw3bg9vr5g
@user-zw3bg9vr5g Ай бұрын
Some pensioners properties might be worth almost a million? Mine is worth almost £ 180,000 but the facts are we still live in our homes we still pay our tax if we are £ 1,000 over and we still pay our council tax plus an extra £40 and rising to have our grass cutting bins emptied because we own our own home. Stop pointing the finger at and blaming Pensioners who have paid into the system from age 15 to age 66. Substance Abusers are the biggest drain on our taxes and this was a choice that they made.Many of them haven’t worked a day in their lives and never will. We can’t help getting old we sincerely believed them when we were told that our National Insurance stamp would pay for our Pension which should have been paid at age 60. Never would it come into our mind to grudge our parents their Pension we were happy for them, after all they sacrificed a lot to bring us up.
@philipgrosvenor7235
@philipgrosvenor7235 Ай бұрын
Definitely not where I live.
@jacquelinesanders-jd3hh
@jacquelinesanders-jd3hh Ай бұрын
Get fed up with goin on about pensioners.lot of us work from age 15 to over 67.work hard .sayin lot young ones find it hard .so did we got no hand out .worked hard only had what we cud afford.
@margaretlarking665
@margaretlarking665 Ай бұрын
Pensioners have paid more tax then anyone else.
@mrennie5158
@mrennie5158 Ай бұрын
And yet not anywhere near enough to support themselves, to the extent that the government debt that is paying the state pension now means workers today won’t get a state pension at all and will have to work into their 70s. Yeah. Facts.
@kennethmaley2443
@kennethmaley2443 Ай бұрын
Pensioners already pay tax on the state pension and any private pension get the facts right.
@stevejones2310
@stevejones2310 Ай бұрын
A pensioner on state pension only, thus no occupational pension, won't pay tax.
@jackmchammocklashing224
@jackmchammocklashing224 Ай бұрын
@@stevejones2310 the new pension for those under 70 is more than the tax threshold of £12500 py So yes taxable
@stevejones2310
@stevejones2310 Ай бұрын
@@jackmchammocklashing224 £12,751threshold
@stevejones2310
@stevejones2310 Ай бұрын
@@jackmchammocklashing224 I didn't know that. That's an outrage
@jamesoneill5070
@jamesoneill5070 Ай бұрын
The lower limit threshold for tax is £12750 so you don't pay tax if your pension is below £241.73 per week.The full state pension is £221.20 per week and the basic state pension is £169.50 per week, all below the threshold for paying tax
@donpainton746
@donpainton746 Ай бұрын
Jeremy vine is a slimy toad.
@barrystubbs983
@barrystubbs983 Ай бұрын
always has been
@dingopisscreek
@dingopisscreek Ай бұрын
Any pensioner getting less than £20,000/year should pay NO TAX
@BrendaRichardson-je2oy
@BrendaRichardson-je2oy Ай бұрын
My husband pays £30 a month out of his private pension how can they justify that when he only gets over £12 thousand a year its all wrong to penalise us that's paid into the system since he's worked all his life just like I have its a disgrace no incentive at all to get a private pension that pays pittance a month & you get taxed on it shame on this system & country 😮🙄
@mrennie5158
@mrennie5158 Ай бұрын
Any workers getting less than that should also pay no tax then.
@fanfeck2844
@fanfeck2844 Ай бұрын
@@mrennie5158if we didn’t have to pay for all the shirkers we could
@Wrtp.
@Wrtp. Ай бұрын
@@fanfeck2844you are 100% correct to many are not interested in working because they get free this and free that and free f..king everything going if you have worked for fifty years you get f..k all .👍
@donaldellis3609
@donaldellis3609 Ай бұрын
​@fanfeck2844 be very careful, that's just what two faced rat sunrack wants you think!!!!😮
@prideofdurham4776
@prideofdurham4776 Ай бұрын
As a pensioner who worked all my life and paid more than my share of taxes ( council , income , VAT , tobacco a alcohol etc ) I find this idea repulsive and disgraceful.
@stevejones2310
@stevejones2310 Ай бұрын
If you want the state to provide for you you should be prepared to pay tax. What makes you so special?
@NorfolkCatKickers
@NorfolkCatKickers Ай бұрын
Actually you haven't, Explain to me how when you first started work compared to when you finished working the country has more debt and liabilities( like payment of your pension). While my generation you weren't alive to even have any say on the governments you created the problem have to pay the costs.
@alanwhitehurst6538
@alanwhitehurst6538 Ай бұрын
Pensioners have paid tax all there lives those who choose to live on benefits don't pay any tax just take
@stevejones2310
@stevejones2310 Ай бұрын
@@alanwhitehurst6538 pensioners are living on benefits too. Get 'em back in harness
@alanwhitehurst6538
@alanwhitehurst6538 Ай бұрын
@@stevejones2310 I'm not and put in for. 40 years
@Whatif623
@Whatif623 Ай бұрын
Leave the pensioners alone
@collier8931
@collier8931 Ай бұрын
The Labour government will tax pensioners to death, just wait and see. They do it every time they are in power.
@garnhamr
@garnhamr Ай бұрын
punished for being sensible. thats the lesson being taught by taxing pensioners more.
@kanedNunable
@kanedNunable Ай бұрын
70% of pensioners voted for boris to drive the country off a cliff. and you expect us workers to pick up the tab and pensioners be immune. you cant keep voting and be immune to the consequences.
@stevejones2310
@stevejones2310 Ай бұрын
You sound like a right victim
@ValTwineDeaner
@ValTwineDeaner Ай бұрын
@stevejones2310. Go away robot
@NorfolkCatKickers
@NorfolkCatKickers Ай бұрын
Or punished for being born, young people who are treated like slaves where the have to pay these old people a huge slice of there income, all because the same old people made a bunch of mistakes, along with the governments they elected. ... sounds fair
@TheJon2442
@TheJon2442 Ай бұрын
​@@stevejones2310forgetting governments don't have money.... If you are irresponsible that's fine as you can get free money from the taxpayer!
@damionkeeling3103
@damionkeeling3103 Ай бұрын
A foreigner has no right to talk about the native population's right to a pension. Do these people not understand cashflow? Someone living in the same house for decades is not rich just because the value of the house has gone up. These people are disgusting.
@Jj-ng8hh
@Jj-ng8hh Ай бұрын
I bought my house in 1979 I'm still living here although by todays valuation I would not be able to afford it.. is it my fault that it has increased in value or greedy types salivating at ever increasing property prices...???
@jacquelinesanders-jd3hh
@jacquelinesanders-jd3hh Ай бұрын
It's a disgrace how they gone on.about the elderly.worked all there lives ..paid there taxes .don't get on about them never worked..don't work pickin up benefits.dont get tax .or them cummin in to the country gettin benefits.never put into the system.gettin more money month.y dint say anything.cause elderly easy targets.rem u wil be old one day.
@minkgin3370
@minkgin3370 Ай бұрын
They weren’t cheap for us to buy at the time. It’s just that they’ve rocketed up in value…..is that our fault ? Also, back in the 1970’s when me & my husband got ours they wouldn’t take the wife’s salary into consideration, no matter what she earned, so you didn’t get too good a deal on the Mortgage.
@dinaworkman306
@dinaworkman306 Ай бұрын
The man in the white jacket is talking rubbish
@dinaworkman306
@dinaworkman306 Ай бұрын
Shut up Jeremy
@markstill515
@markstill515 Ай бұрын
They want to turn this into age wars rather than class wars
@damionkeeling3103
@damionkeeling3103 Ай бұрын
They want young immigrants to demand that pensioners give up their assets for them.
@johnnydoe1984
@johnnydoe1984 Ай бұрын
Divide the people , introduce your agendas or , Problem , Reaction , Solution . THEY create the problem , People heve the reaction , THEY have the Solution ! Also it WON'T be too anyone's benefit apart from THEIRS ! How many times in history has this ruse been used .
@samhodgins9804
@samhodgins9804 Ай бұрын
Socialism can only survive when division and mistrust exists
@mookyzook
@mookyzook Ай бұрын
@@johnnydoe1984 Exactly
@dawnlynch6300
@dawnlynch6300 Ай бұрын
Is he forgetting pensioners have paid tax all their working life.
@rogerbrady7772
@rogerbrady7772 Ай бұрын
Firmly NO to more tax for pensioners.
@hefinjones3385
@hefinjones3385 Ай бұрын
Pensioners have payed their share end of.
@stevejones2310
@stevejones2310 Ай бұрын
Nonsense
@NorfolkCatKickers
@NorfolkCatKickers Ай бұрын
If that was the case we wouldn't have a problem. Explain to me how when you first started work compared to when you finished working the country has more debt and liabilities( like payment of your pension). While my generation who weren't alive to even have any say on the governments that created the problem, are the ones who have to pay the costs, sounds fair.
@stevejones2310
@stevejones2310 Ай бұрын
@@NorfolkCatKickers as a pensioner, I agree with you. The Tories have looked after us oldies. I never voted for them once. In fact they never got 50% of the popular vote since the 1930s yet still formed the government for most of the last 90 years
@zog97xy
@zog97xy Ай бұрын
@@stevejones2310 Pillock
@stevejones2310
@stevejones2310 Ай бұрын
@@zog97xy that's not a counter argument though, is it?
@williamlockhart5025
@williamlockhart5025 Ай бұрын
They keep on about people living longer but they never mention thousands who die before pension age.
@NorfolkCatKickers
@NorfolkCatKickers Ай бұрын
Yeah these people are obviously working so hard paying all this tax, which goes to these pensioners, maybe if we tax the workers less and shifted the costs to pensioners more people would reach the pension age.
@mrennie5158
@mrennie5158 Ай бұрын
The millennials onwards basically who will get no state pension and will have to work into their seventies. All because of the baby boomers. Not their fault they’re boomers but they do need to pull more of their own weight.
@patriciahoskins9514
@patriciahoskins9514 Ай бұрын
Two of my brothers died before they were due to receive their state pension. This has obviously happened to thousands of people.
@bryanhouston1279
@bryanhouston1279 Ай бұрын
Pensioners who worked and saved all the their lives not going to the pub every night not saving nothing for their old age should not be hammered for saving for their old age. Cut the benefits to people who don't work or want to easy.
@damionkeeling3103
@damionkeeling3103 Ай бұрын
Just stop allowing illegals to stay. How much is currently spent on housing, food etc of just the ones crossing by dinghies?
@MrJevman
@MrJevman Ай бұрын
It’s disgusting to even ask that question.
@janehalford4601
@janehalford4601 Ай бұрын
He needs to remember we have one of the lowest state pensions on Europe
@bobcresswell5031
@bobcresswell5031 Ай бұрын
…and pay a low level of contribution through our working life. It’s up to working people to save or not for their old age, with tax advantages. If they choose not to, they will have a lower income after they stop work. Simples!
@jamiesmith27
@jamiesmith27 Ай бұрын
MP's and PM's should pay more tax simple
@dovetonsturdee7033
@dovetonsturdee7033 Ай бұрын
Steady on. The average MP is struggling by on £91,300 per annum, plus 'consultancy work' and generous expenses. Who can possibly hope to struggle by on that?
@susanmills4843
@susanmills4843 Ай бұрын
They should be banned from working outside Parliament. They obviously aren’t doing what we pay them for because they spend more time in their more financially beneficial directorships etc.
@janewright2800
@janewright2800 Ай бұрын
Wealth tax!!
@timothyking2248
@timothyking2248 Ай бұрын
So if you charge MPs more how much will it raise ?? Cretin
@terrytunney4089
@terrytunney4089 Ай бұрын
And pay for their energy
@terryelks-op3jk
@terryelks-op3jk Ай бұрын
I am 80 years old and still pay income tax on smal private pension but I am still below the cost of living amount and I am helping to support illegal immigrants and the age group 18 to 25 reported to be un employed through various illnesses 😢
@patriciawaplington9808
@patriciawaplington9808 Ай бұрын
After the war this country was broke. Our parents fought the war, we boomers worked to pay for it. No wfh or mental health issues for us. We worked.
@cynthiamorris1874
@cynthiamorris1874 Ай бұрын
And didn’t have salary top ups either, you lived on the salary you were given.
@stevejones2310
@stevejones2310 Ай бұрын
​@@cynthiamorris1874because you could live well on the wage you were getting in the majority of cases
@cynthiamorris1874
@cynthiamorris1874 Ай бұрын
@@stevejones2310 Well on,y if you were living with two wages. We didn’t get holidays abroad, if at all. We didn’t have cars. We rarely went to the hairdressers, never ever had our nails done, certainly didn’t have tattoos, or botox etc. a meal out was fish and chips a few times a year in a restaurant. Clothes lasted much longer, you didn’t throw anything away. Walked miles everyday, went to work by bus (found that a bit expensive) houses were cheaper, but for a short while paid 17% mortgage interest, I think it was around 7% for years. Saved up before buying anything, but they were the good old days and I am not complaining.
@damionkeeling3103
@damionkeeling3103 Ай бұрын
Rationing ended in 1954, while they didn't fight in the war there are a huge number of oaps who were children during it or grew up in austerity in the years following it. The dole was originally a safety net for those transitioning between jobs at a time when the 'Anglo-Saxon work ethic' was a thing, now there is little to no social stigma for not working and entire communities don't.
@stevejones2310
@stevejones2310 Ай бұрын
@@cynthiamorris1874 only 1 salary in our household. Mother stayed at home for a good few years. No car or fridge and TV on hp. But no food banks. Or obesity.
@ValTwineDeaner
@ValTwineDeaner Ай бұрын
My mum is 90, worked till she was 73. She rents at a shyte housing association house. Now she's paying tax on her pension pittance. She got 25p extra per month recently, and got 25p extra per month on her 80th birthday. WTF can she get for 25p?????????
@magnus9701
@magnus9701 Ай бұрын
aye disgracfull
@janewright2800
@janewright2800 Ай бұрын
This government is vile and coming for us all! Pensioners, disabled, homeless, immigrants, poor and struggling, single parents, the young, anyone who isn't wealthy basically,And in a cost of living crisis that they sodding created!! Whilst filling their already overflowing bank accounts!!!
@user-bo5hf5sv1h
@user-bo5hf5sv1h Ай бұрын
For that 25p I'd buy a thankyou and send it to Richie saying are you sure you can spare 25p .
@catherinescrivener9936
@catherinescrivener9936 Ай бұрын
Don't bother giving us oa ps arise as weareworseoff
@user-no1ru2wq7e
@user-no1ru2wq7e Ай бұрын
What a load of rubbish. We had secondhand furniture,carpets, TV etc , and my husband as a skilled engineer had a wage of £2000 a year. No holidays and had to pay £1000s in care/nursing home fees. Life has been hard.
@clivewalker5465
@clivewalker5465 Ай бұрын
Myself , and many Millions more , worked for 50 Years , or more , Paying Income Tax , NI Contributions Vehicle Tax , Petrol Tax , Council Tax , and V.A.T on top of it all , now , we get the lowest Pension of any of our EU Neighbours , pay Tax on it , and '' they '' call it Benefits . I have Neighbours , who gave up Work when in their mid 20's , and , when they reached retirement age had their '' Benefits '' double , when they left the Unemployed list , and got their Pension Credits .
@helenkelly4355
@helenkelly4355 Ай бұрын
pension credit pay no council tax dental charges ,makes you wonder why you bothered working.
@davidmchale5890
@davidmchale5890 Ай бұрын
Why are we trying to penalise pensioners who have PAID into a private pension Why have they waited until I have reached pensionable age to want to move the goal posts My company/private pension was originally voluntary if you are now trying to take more in tax what was the use of having a private pension I may as well have used the money when I was younger to have foreign holidays etc Why don’t we tax the big companies more how can Tesco make over 2 billion in profits whilst paying minimum wage and then we have to pay benefits to these people to help make up a living wage? So our some of Tesco’s profits our profits because who helped make these profits the people who work there who have to claim benefits to make ends meet Leave pensioners alone
@barrygranville
@barrygranville Ай бұрын
We are subisdia
@sylviawhite2794
@sylviawhite2794 Ай бұрын
Stop our taxes being paid to keep illegals in luxury
@collier8931
@collier8931 Ай бұрын
Pensioners are also screwed with VAT.
@mrennie5158
@mrennie5158 Ай бұрын
Agree, if you have bothered to arrange and pay into a private pension you should be entitled to ALL of it, no tax. End of. That’s literally your money and yes there are state pensioners who have never been tax paying workers so they don’t deserve a chunk of what you’ve bothered to save up. It is galling, that.
@kevinsyd2012
@kevinsyd2012 Ай бұрын
No tax is paid on private pension contributions (paid from gross salary) , so pension withdrawals are taxed. What's wrong with that?
@blaircorral8158
@blaircorral8158 Ай бұрын
I’d happily pay the higher rate income tax if my pension was raised to £100.000 per annum 🎉But why did my meagre private pension incur 40% tax, while Millionaires pay a mere 22% on their income?
@davidflood8881
@davidflood8881 Ай бұрын
Have they not paid tax thier whole working life? Why don't they start looking at the hundreds of thousands of working age people who aren't working/paying tax. If people aren't working thier benefits rise with inflation. Plus you get a state pension when youve never worked in your life.
@stevejones2310
@stevejones2310 Ай бұрын
You should still pay tax if your income is high enough as a pensioner.. why should you be exempt?
@Richie-su5bn
@Richie-su5bn Ай бұрын
All benefits should be taxed the same as the working man/woman/pensioner. Also if under 60 you should pay for their prescriptions out of their benefits. The working person pays income tax and national insurance, pays for prescriptions, etc. Those on benefits get the same or more than the working person and pay nothing and get deducted nothing, and get benefits on top, mobility car with no insurance, no ved, no servicing costs and the option of a new car every 3 years. Benefits should be equal to the average wage, but taxed the same. Why should workers and pensioners have to pay tax to fund benefits and unemployment benefits when they should be taxed the same and contribute like everybody else.
@stevejones2310
@stevejones2310 Ай бұрын
@@Richie-su5bn bollox. Stop whining. You're one of the lucky ones.
@chipmonk12
@chipmonk12 Ай бұрын
​@@Richie-su5bnall benefits are taxable if you receive more than £12,570.00
@antheadavison6494
@antheadavison6494 Ай бұрын
lately right..Billions of pounds paid by government a year in benefits to idle no goods that do not pay into the system.. I worked from the age of 15 till I was 68.. never got a penny in benefits..Had second hand furniture and washing machine. Worked and saved to buy our own home..Nobody gave us anything and now you want to tax our pension..Tax people that can work but don't..if pension is a benefit tax them that get benefits! Totally unfair. Seems you more sensible you are throughout your working life you more you are punished! Obscene!
@eldoofthe3rd
@eldoofthe3rd Ай бұрын
Coming from the man who made his daughter a shareholder in his company just to lower his tax bill lmfao
@soulman956
@soulman956 Ай бұрын
I'm 70 yr old pensioner who has paid tax from age of 16 and stil paying tax and it's got up again this month. As well as my full councill tax . I worked 70 hours a week to buy our house .
@beageraghty1704
@beageraghty1704 Ай бұрын
Taxation is a rich man's trick. The parasitic globalists that spend taxpayers money do not pay any tax
@turksrds
@turksrds Ай бұрын
1 in 4 my arse you guys make my blood boil😡😡😡
@janewright2800
@janewright2800 Ай бұрын
No difference between labour and cons. Sad!
@peteraston4753
@peteraston4753 Ай бұрын
They both robbed our pension funds
@vanessagray8604
@vanessagray8604 Ай бұрын
We are the riches country in the world? We get £800 per month - Spains pensioners get £2,800. Why are our pensioners being asked to live in poverty and have so much less than the living wage (ie the amount that has basically been calculated as the minimum to actually live on?
@peteraston4753
@peteraston4753 Ай бұрын
Funded by UK energy compaies owned by spanish german and french investment groups
@peterwhitear7716
@peterwhitear7716 Ай бұрын
let the mp's take a big cut in their wages or more tax on them
@jamesbainbridge569
@jamesbainbridge569 Ай бұрын
My dad payed a private pension for 40 years died at 67 my mum was entitled to 12 months if you want more money find out where all that and millions of others in the same boat went
@lindalewis5787
@lindalewis5787 Ай бұрын
We paid tax all our lives our pension in uk pathetic
@peterknight6535
@peterknight6535 Ай бұрын
This guy wants the pensioners to pay the dole money of the workshy?
@cynthiamorris1874
@cynthiamorris1874 Ай бұрын
And pay benefits to illegal immigrants.
@stevejones2310
@stevejones2310 Ай бұрын
Pensioners are working? Or are they workshy too?
@cynthiamorris1874
@cynthiamorris1874 Ай бұрын
@@stevejones2310 We wish
@peterknight6535
@peterknight6535 Ай бұрын
@@stevejones2310 If they are working, how can you class them as workshy?
@stevejones2310
@stevejones2310 Ай бұрын
@@peterknight6535 I'm asking if they're working. If not, are they not workshy. For clarity I was being a bit ironic.
@turksrds
@turksrds Ай бұрын
The living wage is £400+ pensioners are on£ 220 ish so ffffight of 😡😡😡😡😡
@kevinsyd2012
@kevinsyd2012 Ай бұрын
My mums lives very comfortably of her pension. Her house is paid for so only bills and food. Often she spends less than her monthly pension.
@MrDufben
@MrDufben Ай бұрын
If we were anywhere near the top of the table in the EU for pensions, then maybe - but we aren't. So NO!
@Thegreyreaperuk
@Thegreyreaperuk Ай бұрын
What a stupid idea. How many times should pensioners be taxed during their lifetime.
@stevejones2310
@stevejones2310 Ай бұрын
All the time if their income is over the threshold
@NorfolkCatKickers
@NorfolkCatKickers Ай бұрын
maybe people should pay on average should pay the same amount of tax, that ends up being spent on an average person, sounds crazy. Fact is a lot of old people never paid anywhere near enough tax to cover the pensions they eventually went to receive, which then goes into government debt and thus the young people have to pay.
@magnus9701
@magnus9701 Ай бұрын
@@NorfolkCatKickers i was paying £150 a week in tax in the 80s , so ive paid for my pension
@NorfolkCatKickers
@NorfolkCatKickers Ай бұрын
@@magnus9701 the total tax wouldnt just be pension how much did it cost to send you to school, how much has the goveremnt spent on all your medical costs. Tell me how we have more debt and liabilities now then when you where born or turned 18. your generation is at fault you elected morons and now you want my generation to pay for it.
@dianefarnden8577
@dianefarnden8577 Ай бұрын
Where do you get your 'facts' from?
@EggPottsKnock
@EggPottsKnock Ай бұрын
Housing was never cheap
@lynnerowsell1942
@lynnerowsell1942 Ай бұрын
Quite right, it may seem cheap today but it was still the same percentage of the wages you earned as it is today and today you ha e the benefits of mortgage companies who can give 100% mortgages or other incentives, we never had any of that you saved kept the same furniture carpets and household items till they fell apart and went without to be able to buy if that were possible as .out people lived in rented houses. DO NOT undermine what we went through. It is easier now than it was for us to keep going
@stephenturner7949
@stephenturner7949 Ай бұрын
Pensioners have paid more than enough , its time to get their money back
@tinanolan1485
@tinanolan1485 Ай бұрын
Tax the mega rich not the pensioners. People don’t live to 100 no one I know lived to 100. We have a huge excess mortality globally since 2021.
@maccampbell8359
@maccampbell8359 Ай бұрын
Why don't they just put pensioners back into workhouses?My state pension is in the region of £!80 a week : All my working life paid National insurance. What a mug I must have been.
@jackmchammocklashing224
@jackmchammocklashing224 Ай бұрын
If you have done nothing and maybe never worked in your life, you get a full pension, free housing and Universal credits, IF you have worked all your life, paid NI and tried to put what little earnings a working man earned into a small pension, Then everytime the basic pension goes up you are taxed on your £100 a year private pension DISGUSTING IF you were a Civil SERPENT then you have a magnificent pension and MP's have a Golden pension at lot more than £13500 a year TOTAL
@stuartregan1627
@stuartregan1627 Ай бұрын
100% why is public pension liability never spoke about ? 2.6 trillion. Retire at 60 with million pound pension pot . Start with gold plated civil service pensions
@user-sd2xk1if5q
@user-sd2xk1if5q Ай бұрын
Some pensioners are providing finiacial support to their families, child care, school runs, and much more.
@geoffnichols3831
@geoffnichols3831 Ай бұрын
Pay more tax? I got a £19 rise in my company pension of which £16 was taken in tax.
@harrywalsh677
@harrywalsh677 Ай бұрын
When you have worked for fifty two years in the building trade,paid tax and insurance for the full fifty two years ,paid a mortgage brought three children up i think I deserve what little pension i get..
@eenie1234
@eenie1234 Ай бұрын
If you’ve got more money than me I’m not standing for it. That’s todays attitude. Except for companies raking in billions.
@sandrastewart2450
@sandrastewart2450 Ай бұрын
This is a joke my husband got23 punds 3 days later they took 20 pounds more tax of him so in the end he got lousry 3 pounds Nd the foods going up and all the bills are going up so tha 3 pounds is a bloody joke they keep on about the younger generation they waist there money on having there there nails done all the time going abroud waisting monet on take aways going drinking buying cofees every day Paying for tatoos buying top brand names in clothes none of this whot we have ever done and could never Aford to do
@RealLabour1900
@RealLabour1900 Ай бұрын
Fought 2 world wars, I think Jeremy still thinks he's doing an interview in 1985, if you thought in the First World War you are sadly no longer with us, and then if you fought in WW2 you have to be at least 95, this idea that boomers or even the silent generation fought in the world war is just ludicrous from our media
@thetudors9875
@thetudors9875 Ай бұрын
Pensioners should not be paying Tax at the standard thresholds… ridiculous
@patrickmcardle4771
@patrickmcardle4771 Ай бұрын
No, they work all there life, leave them alone. 😂❤
@alanwhitehurst6538
@alanwhitehurst6538 Ай бұрын
Bless you spot on
@philiphoward4966
@philiphoward4966 Ай бұрын
This just illustrates what a terrible job the politicians have done in the past to get us in this terrible mess.
@patriciadrury8557
@patriciadrury8557 Ай бұрын
Of course not we have paid enough let those immigrants start paying there way no job no money we send you back enough is enough
@magnus9701
@magnus9701 Ай бұрын
aye get them illeagles oot
@michaelgibson4705
@michaelgibson4705 Ай бұрын
Pensioners paying more tax,The gift that keeps giving,after a working life of paying tax
@peterkelly6232
@peterkelly6232 Ай бұрын
This individual sounds like he wants to exterminate those people who reach pensionable age
@testingtimes7924
@testingtimes7924 Ай бұрын
The fact that the Tories, who used to have the mantra "work hard, save hard, be prudent and it will pay off in the long run" are now taxing the people who did that even more, just shows how low the Tories have sunk. The fact that they are doing it to pay for their own financial incompetence is unforgivable. Hunt should be ashamed of himself, but he seem's so smug that I very much doubt he is.
@philipwood9526
@philipwood9526 Ай бұрын
U.K.gov needs to get the work force working and paying tax rather than expecting the pensioners to pay more in my working life we worked long hours for very little.
@iaindouglas4829
@iaindouglas4829 Ай бұрын
I’m only fairly recently retired after working all my life and mostly 12hr shifts at that, I find myself now almost being made to feel “ashamed” to be a “Pensioner” (even though I’m not actually drawing my state pension yet) and quite honestly Vine’s program is at the forefront for having “Debates” about pensioners for a multitude of reasons but generally geared towards them paying more or getting out to work, used to like this show but now I see it for what it is, same regurgitated crap week in week out😒
@user-bo5hf5sv1h
@user-bo5hf5sv1h Ай бұрын
Raise the poorer pension who get less than minimum wage to in line with minimum wage than I'd be happy to pay the same tax as them.
@paulgeorge15718
@paulgeorge15718 Ай бұрын
We are not to blame for suporting boat people
@Buddingrose
@Buddingrose Ай бұрын
Why should pensioners be persecuted now? They’ve worked hard and probably lived in poor conditions compared to today’s standards that the young and entitled of today couldn’t even imagine. They should be enjoying the life they’ve got left in peace.
@thetimeisnow6822
@thetimeisnow6822 Ай бұрын
ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING WE ARE PAYING 20% TAX All I have in MY Pension that I HAVE PAID FOR IN MY TAXES.
@callumnoor8442
@callumnoor8442 Ай бұрын
Fought in two world wars? 😂😂
@stevejones2310
@stevejones2310 Ай бұрын
Yeah, that was bollox, yet it's very often trotted out. Vine should know better
@snowyowel7961
@snowyowel7961 Ай бұрын
Someone has to pay for illegal migrants in hotels, etc, so they choose to take off the most valuable seriously arse ends .
@mookyzook
@mookyzook Ай бұрын
Again you read and believe the propaganda pushed out by the right wing press. At your age surely you can see that the whole immigrant problem is being used as a smokescreen for the rich donors to the political parties to get away with schemes to avoid paying taxes whilst the poorest in society are struggling to pay their bills? It's been the same for more than fifty years, pulling out the same old rhetoric , they convince us that 'the problems with this country are the foreigners taking all out money, blame them not us', Look at the massive profits the energy companies are making, look at the amount of money the water companies have skimmed off the profits they make from our excessive bills, check out the statistics of how the balance of money in this country has gone from the poorest in society to the richest in society. Why do you think we now have food banks and working people having to rely on benefits to pay their bills? Check out the statistics of the amount of so called legal immigrants going up to provide the rich company owners with cheap labour since we left the EU. I know because I work all over the country training them and I'm still working at seventy just to pay my bills.
@kevinbrookes6550
@kevinbrookes6550 Ай бұрын
It is always the case that the grass looks greener on the other side of the fence. Once you climb over that fence you realise it is not, as I found out when I became a pensioner.
@julesw4037
@julesw4037 Ай бұрын
Yes, I remember back in the 80's when houses were given away in jamboree bags and building societies paid us to take out a mortgage - just kidding. I couldn't get a mortgage in the 80's because I was young, had no savings and had started a new job. By the time I had saved enough for a deposit as a condition for a mortgage, the house prices had just about doubled. The CONservatives dragged the country through various recessions in the 80's and 90's, when at one time, the interest rates went up to 15%. In the early 90's, it was weekly news about how many people were having their houses repossessed. Eventually fixed rate mortgages were being offered, and at 15 years in, I had a celebration at getting a fixed rate at 5%. Regarding the pension, the UK is 15th in ranking for state pensions in Europe. The triple lock was a mechanism to try and bring the pension up to something worth having, after decades of underfunding it. We still have 25% of pensioners in poverty and material deprivation. I think this brown man is a sophist. Perhaps if the 20 / 30 somethings voted for a political party, that wasn't ideologically driven to making maximum profit by suppressing wages and artificially increasing house prices by reduction in social housing, and relying on private developers, who's only interest is to their share-holders and CEO salaries, to build houses. My local MP is Jeremy Hunt. Hunt bought 7 luxury flats in Southampton from a developer that was a CONservative donor. This developer gave him a discount on the flats for buying 7. Because he bought them to rent out, the taxman gave him a reduction on his stamp duty costs. When I used to work in London, foreign investors bought up flats in new developments with no intention of living there, waiting on an increase in prices. The moderately paid locals, were then forced to move further out, until investors had bought those properties too. No-one on average salaries can afford to buy property in London anymore. The government, in the last 14 years, could have done something about this, by not allowing foreign property investors the right to buy property in the UK. It seems likely that, since 25% of CONservative MPs have a property portfolio, they rather like the house prices increasing all the time. Still, the youngsters could do something about it, but apparently they don't think it's worth voting.
@damionkeeling3103
@damionkeeling3103 Ай бұрын
Given how rich the UK is and how much it gives away each year in foreign aid, it is reprehensible that anyone born and bred there is struggling during their retirement years. You can tell the nature of a country by how they treat their elderly. It's fairly clear that many in power want the older generation to just die. You never hear their opinions on anything but occasionally they get trotted out in some feelgood story like Captain Moore walking his garden during covid. Otherwise they're just not part of public life.
@colineastwood1357
@colineastwood1357 Ай бұрын
ONLY ON JEREMY VINE!
@Rattlerbrand
@Rattlerbrand Ай бұрын
Apparently 650 mp,s are multi millionaires ? On paper ? The reason houses went up is because yall invited immigrants in more people and not enough houses ? Market forces build more houses ? But understand this is an island there is a finite amount of space
@robertwilson93
@robertwilson93 Ай бұрын
Where are all millionaire pensioners living I've yet to find or know of any.
@felicitousxDevota
@felicitousxDevota Ай бұрын
It is government dipping into the funds for other then pensioners payment.
@clivewalker5465
@clivewalker5465 Ай бұрын
Yes , Gordon Brown raided the Pension pots , and so did many Company C.E.Os .
@fubar.1
@fubar.1 Ай бұрын
This about people living to a hundred is nonsense
@Tracy-os6un
@Tracy-os6un Ай бұрын
No they should not pay any tax at all they worked all their lives and deserve better understanding
@user-dp7bk1dt3t
@user-dp7bk1dt3t Ай бұрын
I hope all those who want the pensioners to pick up the slack of those to lazy to go to work need to remember they will be old one day or die getting there
@Rattlerbrand
@Rattlerbrand Ай бұрын
Try taxing private jets cars and close the loops I just live on state pension and I had to wait a year longer to get my pension too so I’m a waspi man
@stevenostle7500
@stevenostle7500 Ай бұрын
Mortgage interest rates were 15% in late 70's and 80's
@johngalvin3124
@johngalvin3124 Ай бұрын
Thanks to the Tories
@pipins3616
@pipins3616 Ай бұрын
@@johngalvin3124not just the Tories as they were not in power in other countries who had the same issue
@brianferguson7840
@brianferguson7840 Ай бұрын
As a pensioner I would have no problem paying more taxes if I knew the money was going to help younger people who are struggling because they never had ALL THE BENEFITS THAT MY GENERATION ENJOYED !
@lynnerowsell1942
@lynnerowsell1942 Ай бұрын
Disagree with you we had very few if any benefits thank you
@helenclark2104
@helenclark2104 Ай бұрын
No they shouldn’t pay more tax they paid their taxes in one way or another over the years purely by their hard working families contributing unless you come over in a boat
@aacmove
@aacmove Ай бұрын
Where does somebody go when they sell their stupidly inflated house and every house in the area where they have lived for 50 years is the same price? They bought it because they could afford it back then, and they would prefer to die there.
@keithmartland6463
@keithmartland6463 Ай бұрын
£5.5 Billion in benefits has not been claimed by pensioners, that's what i am doing when i retire in a few months!
@richardbrown1189
@richardbrown1189 Ай бұрын
Just because you bought a house years ago doesn't mean that you "benefit from the price rise" as if you have more money to spend. If you are still living in the house and a have a low income, then you still have a low income.
@leslierowe2337
@leslierowe2337 Ай бұрын
We were told years ago to get a private pension now that we got one they keep knocking us this young lot today keep spending ridiculous amounts of money on weddings and cars and clothing all on the tick and then they mourn about it
@terrybranaghan8251
@terrybranaghan8251 Ай бұрын
Hi Exhausted with constant reference to the triple lock. This is 8.5% on less than half the minimum living wage, not on an average salary. If you only earned the current pension of £11500 you would be entitled to numerous additional top up benefits.
@Whatif623
@Whatif623 Ай бұрын
Private pensions are what you have taken out of your wages every month
@user-do4pg4wr9k
@user-do4pg4wr9k Ай бұрын
Look how much they get in spain
@royknight3346
@royknight3346 Ай бұрын
Have i now got to feel ashamed of reaching 73 yrs of age.
@davidbatchelor4715
@davidbatchelor4715 Ай бұрын
What about those of us who will not see a 70th birthday because my health was damaged irreversible by working in heavy-engineering
@user-bo5hf5sv1h
@user-bo5hf5sv1h Ай бұрын
If that was a member of parliament they'd known a way round paying it .they're not stupid .it's one rule for the rich guts and another rule for all others.
@JustTakeAMoment
@JustTakeAMoment Ай бұрын
Most people would like to see a Conservative government in power, the problem is that they don't exist anymore and that is why the country is falling apart at the seams. Labour used to break the economy and the Tories would fix it. Now, the only right wing party left that believes in smaller government is new, untried and untested. Thus, we don't even know if the system can even be fixed.
@barrygranville
@barrygranville Ай бұрын
Tax. The GiG.. Economy. who. Pay nothing. and. Non. Dom. Prime ministers. The pensioners help keep high streets afloat. Free child. Minding. We were in courage. To. have. Private pensions. Give us a Break very. Think. as become more expexsive i e. Fuel bills etc.😢
@stillgame2706
@stillgame2706 Ай бұрын
I've worked all over the country anywhere there was work when I had none, over 30 jobs. I pay tax on my small private pension, if/when the asbestos I've had contact with kills me, my wife will have just over £22 a day to live on with her meagre pension. So we're not quite in the millionaire bracket.
@shaunhw
@shaunhw Ай бұрын
From a 67 year old: The price we paid for our houses didn't seem cheap at the time, and we never had such low, long term interest rates as seen in more recent years.
@marilynsmith8054
@marilynsmith8054 Ай бұрын
They gave us the 8.5 rise so that they could drag people like me into paying tax. The civil service did the same with 10% rise in my small pension.
@DY-cq3qd
@DY-cq3qd Ай бұрын
Big negatives for Boomers. Fuel poverty until late 1970s. High mortgage rates most of life - I think the lowest I ever paid was 7.5% Car ownership most of life one second hand car NOT PCP for new cars. Started paying for pension from 18. Low income for entertainment - no hols abroad till 50, no clubbing, pub once twice a week - moderate drinks. Plain food until late 1970s. Modest 3b semi which took 30 years to pay off. Inflation didn't seem to reduce gearing of income to property until late on - again 1970s -80s. We wore out clothes out. TV very restricted until Video recorders - wow what a difference that made!! But very few channels until 2000s. Work laborious - adding machines , fax, really bad copiers ,no comps. Very little disposable income - we had to save hard for 6 months to get TV, last month I just went and bought a great one for £300. Very little credit - it was all HP at high rates. Job for life ? Yes if in public sector not in private as many companies shut down. Retraining difficult. Not everyone got free education only bottom 30%. Student accommodation pretty bad. Cold room in a house shared bathroom and kitchen. No microwaves until 1980s, electric blanket was saviour!
@vanessagray8604
@vanessagray8604 Ай бұрын
I am 64 and I also could not afford a place….. I’m female - we were not paid much and had no access to a private pension and I had to rely on my parents to help me get on the property ladder, even then I had to have a boyfriend to get a mortgage.
@arthurdixon5890
@arthurdixon5890 Ай бұрын
I’m a 74 year old and work full time. I get taxed heavily, trust me.
@willowtree9291
@willowtree9291 Ай бұрын
Please don't bring up 'fighting two world wars'. Those who fought in WW1 are long gone. My 98 year old mother was still at school when WW2 broke out. The number of people who actually fought in WW2 is ever diminishing.
@Whatif623
@Whatif623 Ай бұрын
Nick Devon doesn't seem to know what hes talking about!
@user-ps2jb5wj6h
@user-ps2jb5wj6h Ай бұрын
A Pensioners Home has to be used to finance residential care in the event of ill health. Everything you have saved for gets taken by government taxes in the end.
@chrisfox3161
@chrisfox3161 18 күн бұрын
I'd be able to pay more tax but that Truss woman took a very large chunk of my pension fund off me. The money I'd saved over the years.
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