The moment where Nigel says welcome to whistle watch, we love this gent

All of it! Gotta Ask tho will you be back for the autumn nations series

Nigel Owens not knowing that Frans Steyn was the ball carrier after Mackenzie lost it in the tackle...priceless

Why does he not indicate what the correct ruling on the Weber try was? What is he avoiding... why don't you show the Steyn tackle in real time... trying to avoid the truth of terrible officiating? Shifting blame to the Waterboy? Refs not explaining the rulings... Why are the players not entitled to refer a decision for a review... works well in Cricket... Bryce Lawrence and Darryl Harper would have had no career with DRS...

@@wildripeach1 as a Sarra myself, I don’t like the water boy antics either… really don’t want to see that start to come into our game - football has enough of rubbish like that. 100% on the Steyn tackle though, so clear that he strips the ball in the tackle but every non Saffa seems to ignore that - apart from the Aussies who seems to also hate the whole deliberate knock on interpretation…

Risky move that might not pay off in the long run, I'm sure he has his fingers in plenty of world rugby pots

Keep in mind World Rugby is providing all of the recording and post-editing resources.

THANK YOU, Dmac knew he got away with it too which sparked the scuffle...

Frans has to show daylight, which results in him knocking on? Because, you know. He's ripped three ball from Dmac, who's holding onto Frans, not the ball.

The All Black player knew he even rolls away

@@sverleis no. Daylight is for the ball on the floor not in that situation.

@@ryanwaugh1 Sarcasm is difficult to convey on text...

Agreed. Title is rather misleading considering he just tells us what happens rather than whether the try should have been sent for review based on the specific incident - 9 times out of 10 I would have expected an incident as chaotic as that to be reviewed, many are reviewed for far less. The TMO could be heard on the broadcast and he said something along the lines of "it travelled backwards". A commentator then immediately said, "well I don't know how it travelled backward off his forearm". While it was an SA commentators, you'd think it warrants a look, but it seemed like the forearm was totally ignored, just the initial contact after Etzebeth. Nigel hasn't been afraid to give his own opinion on some decisions before... funny why he doesn't here. He also describes the Frans Steyn incident extremely vaguely... doesn't even sound like the same tackle. Seems very clear that it was ripped before... Steyn should have been awarded a penalty. Finally, I think the ref, Carley, did have a very good game all round. He had great communication, good control and he wasn't afraid to penalise either team, but especially the ABs, in the dying minutes - something most refs historically are hesitant to do, e.g. SA Craig Joubert. But, his consistency was strained. In the last few minutes of the game, he gave a penalty to the ABs (after the SA drop goal) for not rolling away when the tackle area was essentially clear. Earlier in the game he had been telling players to "leave it" or "roll". But here he hesitates, sticks out his arm halfway and then commits. But then rather than play advantage he immediately blows the penalty. Something he had been reffing consistently throughout the game, probably changed because of the scoreline and time of play - both essentially refereeing cardinal sins. But bear in mind, this lack of proper review probably is none of Nigel's doing. I doubt he has any conflict about the decisions or what he believes should/shouldn't have happened. But being on a World Rugby channel discourse will always be limited when it comes to the officials... a pity, because clearer interpretation and evaluation would help the game so much.

World Rugby sponsors this show O now see Nigel could not raffle the feathers. I am done with him as well he has disappointed me.

Agreed. Nigel now one of world rugbys cronies

Hi Darren. Remember that this is World Rugby speaking through Nigel Owens' mouth. Out of them serving their own self interests (and probably him not wanting to bury a referee), you probably won't be hearing too much in-depth analysis from him. The best that you can hope for is him saying that offence X is blown in this way, so that means the ref saw maybe that the daylight rule has been violated, or something.

@@asezangozo1914 They not only sponsor the show, they own the channel. So yeah, he is beholden to them. Also, there is the matter of the reffing fraternity to be considered. I don't think Nigel wants to attack any ref and even if he wasn't beholden to Wolrld Rugby, he would probably not be burying the ref, even if a wrong call had been made.

Does he really need world rugby? Mr Owens can start his own podcast and I will support it. World Rugby as an organization is not forward thinking nor innovative...

Thanks for watching! What questions do you have lined up for the future?

yep the phase of play from which the 50:22 kick orginates must start in own half

@@victorkotze7934 No, that's a different one - the one the water boy was arguing about was one that was taken back in SAs half before being kicked into the 22m

@@rhysduncan8676 Yes you are right, thanks. I re-watched the game last night and saw - the officials were spot-on. In fact, I think they were pretty consistent and had good games.

Clear and obvious to all, it was a tackle & strip, and the advantage line moved with him towards NZ try line Dmac Pen for being wrong side & not rolling away, it was not about tackle release at all, possession changed hands, as a result original carrier was offsides and failed to roll away.

@@TheCryptoSniper Yup, technically it was a strip and then tackle. A tackle only occurs when the ball carrier is brought to the ground. Stryn made contact, stripped the ball and was then brought to the ground as the ball carrier.

Fingers crossed Nigel is back sooner rather than later, how else are we going to spend out Tuesdays?

@@WorldRugby hope not with vague descriptions of tackles without any analysis

What was your favourite moment or question of the season?

And when you see the ref giving no respect to a captain? look at Siya with the lions tour. Ref never listened to him but had tea parties with the B&I lions captain

That would work if these "refs" had the same level of respect for all team captains.

Whistle Watch for you, Whistle Watch for you, Whistle Watch for everybody! What was your favourite moment of the season?

Woo! We can't agree more! Do you have all your questions prepped?

Remember to not forget the difference between a cow and a bull 😳

He just said that the TMO already checked the replays before the conversion was taken. And it's true. I heard the Bok players ask the ref if it was knocked on and the ref said it was already looked at and deemed a knock back. End of story.

Season 2 had to end some time! Hopefully we are back on the farm soon enough!

It's sad that season 2 has come to an end! Any favourite moments?

Rassie Erasmus will disagree.

@@jaymeister4850 and most SA commentators

I think it is scheduled for the end of October.

If we were to return, what other challenges/quizzes do you want to see Nigel do?

​@@WorldRugby Quizzes of the evolution of the Rugby Laws throughout the past years till today would be awesome. Looking forward to see you guys back! Cheers!

One of the very best! Who else impresses you with the whistle?

@@WorldRugby Ben O’Keeffe has been a favourite of mine for a long time, both in accuracy and demeanour. I have also really enjoyed having Luke Pearce for TRC 21!

Do you have a favourite moment of the season?

@@WorldRugby yes. the Savea try against SA last weekend. that was Epic!!

But you won didn't you?

@@Nineteenseventy2 Won what?

The game.

@@Nineteenseventy2 not me, the boks won the game.

@@Nineteenseventy2 what ………

If Nigel is no.1, who would be no.2?

More of the sane home town decisions

cause they’re the best team

Which other referees are at the top with the whistle?

Please elaborate chief

@@mthunziphakathi4215 Be specific.

You would think the autumn internationals

We passed it back into our territory from the previous phase, hence carried back, the same as in passing the ball back into the 22.

NZ were in their own 22.. No way the ref would know that they would score a try from there. Even the penalty was harsh as he was clearly attempting to catch the ball judging by his hand position.

Watch closely you will see that he starts off with both hands and then ended up with one hand trying to catch the ball. Physiology dictated that his' right arm ended up further away from the ball and was preparing to assist with regathering. Maybe if you have played the game you would understand what was happening.

@@mthunziphakathi4215 so... no chance of catching it. Got it, that's considered an intentional knock-on.

Owens is beholden to World Rugby (it is their channel) and they would hardly allow him to speak out against any ref. Furthermore, Owens is not going to speak out against a ref on his own volition, I suspect due a sense of loyalty towards them. As for "interpreting" the rules, sadly that will not change. This is how the legal system works as well - certain judges can interpret certain legislative directives to mean different things. The reason why things work in this way is that it is impossible to write a rule for everything that can happen in a rugby game (or in law). So there are tons of things that may not have a bullet point law written for. In such a case, the referee (or judge, in my example) has to examine a certain incident and apply the laws that may apply.

@@jaymeister4850 thanks. Agree but he has in the past said what's "should have" been done. So he does point out mistakes.

Bias refereeing I guess.

You heard about it, you did not actually see it until the on field ref stepped in.

Dramatic much?

@@mthunziphakathi4215 No. Stop the BS from Soccer creeping into rugby.

Easier way is to go with slap down = pen+, tip up = attempting to steal, so knock-on only. You're almost never going to get it with hand facing down (unless over your head). Where amazing intercept try can be yellow card and even penalty try if you're off by a centimeters is a bit daft (maybe the passer should have done a better job if there was a clear overlap!)

@@RugbyGuide yeah I’m fine with looking at the motion of the hand actually. Downward motion = penalty, anything else just a knock.

I think it's a silly rule it puts a lot of players off going for intercepts just in case they don't get it just make it a knock-on and carry on like the old days

Joe moody is a walking sack of penalties.