WNBA SHOULD GET EQUAL PAY WHEN THEY GENERATE EQUAL RREVENUE.
@TheVagolfer3 ай бұрын
No one ever complains female models make 100x more than male models.
@feefop98583 ай бұрын
Bottom line, if you got the goods....
@bigpictureguys84153 ай бұрын
I’ve never heard this argument made. Wow. Kinda an argument ender right there
@ralelunar3 ай бұрын
I mean, if you think about it, that's also sexism. People sexualize women way more than they sexualize men, so women's looks are more sought after. It's still not a good thing, people are still being underpaid for their talents.
@Grande793 ай бұрын
@@ralelunarhow are the WNBA players under paid when they don’t produce a profit? It’s impossible
@gusmilonas41403 ай бұрын
female strippers make more then male strippers more demand for them
@lexzone-six99123 ай бұрын
This show has covered the WNBA zero times before today. Mind you, their local WNBA team played in the finals last season.
@iwj63293 ай бұрын
When the NBA was 25 years old in the 1970s, NBA players had regular jobs outside of the season, nobody cried for them. Gtfoh.
@iwj63293 ай бұрын
This is not female vs male. It's a 25 yr. old league vs a 70 yr. old league. You have to earn that growth, fanbase, popularity and pay, the WNBA wants it to be given to them. Imagine the NBA asking for the same as the MLB in 1970. That's 50 years difference of work that multiple generations of players to had to put in, to get the league to where it's at now. Who do they think they are that they don't have to pay the same dues?
@xxslick66xx3 ай бұрын
No, the issue is the WNBA doesn't bring in the $$$$ that the NBA does, you can not pay people with money you are not making.
@Tib10103 ай бұрын
@@xxslick66xx that's exactly what he said? These players in the league today in the NBA are reaping the rewards of the sacrifices of players made for the past 75 years. In the next 50 years if the product continues to improve the wnba will most definitely be one of the most popular women's sports. They probably won't be making the insane 300 million contracts but in the next 25-30 years I won't be surprised if a generational type player gets the 100+ million contracts
@moelarry80883 ай бұрын
Of course Peter says it's due to sexism. Just the easiest, laziest reason one could possibly give while not considering the differences between the leagues at all
@jg71023 ай бұрын
Imagine being called sexist because you dont enjoy the product of a company. This show is categorically insane.
@t206kid3 ай бұрын
its like if you dont want to date a trans person then you are transphobic
@bbonds78493 ай бұрын
It's amazing how an overrated, white point guard with ZERO championships all of a sudden is making people think that WNBA players should make as much as their NBA counterparts. As far as a lot of people are concerned, Clark is making TOO much money.
@IndifferentAgainstTheMachine3 ай бұрын
Let the worst NBA team play the best WNBA team and you'll still see why they make peanuts comparatively.
@ts93323 ай бұрын
Let the best high school boys team play the best WNBA team.
@rj24vc153 ай бұрын
Paid by who exactly the money doesn't exist
@jerz3y3 ай бұрын
Don boxed peter in with the ufl argument
@benjaminberman62003 ай бұрын
1. Peter, the National Team gets compensated from FIFA’s pool. The men’s game is the most popular sport in the world by far. The women’s game brings in a small fraction of their revenue. So- that’s not a good argument at all. 2. If the WNBA would pay CC 5 million dollars to match the BIG3- we all know that the other WNBA players and their union would be up-in-arms so this has nothing to do with her at all.
@ceasarblackman95013 ай бұрын
I actually think the fact people feel like they have to announce they’re not anti this or that and being misogynistic for have a common sense take.. shows the real issue IMO
@gabrieltorres22233 ай бұрын
I disagree in part with Peter. Sexism has a role in it but if you have ever gone to a WNBA game, it's just not as good a product. The games aren't as exciting. I think it is getting better but when the product is just as good as the NBA the money will go up.
@ForestOfSleep3 ай бұрын
If it's not a good product then sexism doesn't have a role, it's just economics.
@gabrieltorres22233 ай бұрын
@@ForestOfSleep never said it wasn’t a good product, I said it wasn’t AS good of a product. Two things can be true
@t206kid3 ай бұрын
funny thing is these are the same people that say athletes make too much money (compared to like teachers) but then they want women athletes paid more? They should be happy about the WNBA salaries
@tedchen82763 ай бұрын
Can these guys even name Caitlin Clark new teammates or more than 10 WNBA players in the league? Have they even watched a game?
@scottroberts74633 ай бұрын
In NYC, there are more than enough women earning large salaries to fill MSG every night to the real capacity of the arena to watch the Liberty play. There are more women in NYC compared to men to watch the WNBA on TV. There are more women to buy jerseys and other WNBA merchandise compared to men. Are you sure you want to go down the sexism path?
@elway2k3 ай бұрын
Let me think about it for a minute..................No
@ralelunar3 ай бұрын
There's no way to have an fair discussion about this, because you have too many people who are uncomfortable with the fact that they're unconsciously sexist, like Peter said. Everyone's too comfortable with the status quo, they don't want to put in the work to help women's sports.
@Jimmysticks223 ай бұрын
Don’t think that a real quote regarding LIV golf lol
@user-fc9vu7lu2f3 ай бұрын
Do not worry about merchandise or money because Caitlin Clark is now the biggest star in the sport and makes more in nil compared to most NBA players. Women's b ball now has better storylines compared to men especially in college. the game will be fine ladies do not need the same revenue as boys.
@frederickrapp53963 ай бұрын
As I see it, the problem isn’t that the average WNBA player is underpaid. Compared to your average working American, they are not. The problem is that the average NBA player is obscenely overpaid, which is that they are, compared to your average working American. Now, you have many NBA players averaging 10 points and 5 rebounds a game who are commanding $10,000,000 a year to play 15-20 minutes a game. That’s obscene, and that’s flat out wrong.
@BakiSmaki273 ай бұрын
Not really if the top guys in your sport are making 40+. There's a scale. Plus some of those guys you mentioned don't have the eye popping stats but are still very valuable players.
@moelarry80883 ай бұрын
comparing to the average person is pretty pointless unless the average person's job also has tv contracts worth billions and sells millions of tickets
@Axecarter913 ай бұрын
NBA, G League, overseas basketball, College Bball and high level high school basketball are all better products than the WNBA. How much basketball do you expect people to watch!?
@rickshelton19553 ай бұрын
Women's sports are boring... that includes wrestling peter
@bigpictureguys84153 ай бұрын
T’haaa’ts sexist! 🤦🏼♂️ Ugh shut up Peter
@vdoggydogg39223 ай бұрын
NBA operates at a loss since it's inception, why should they get 50%? It's a tax write-off for the NBA.
@PeterOldschool3 ай бұрын
Hell no! It's not even arguable
@mikeypie243 ай бұрын
NO. the NBA revenue is 10 BILLION. the WNBA is 60 million. Peter needs a economic lesson.
@pinstrps3 ай бұрын
How many fans attend a wnba game?
@nda16fm3 ай бұрын
The WNBA wouldn't even exist if not for the NBA subsidizing them. In almost 30 years of existence, the WNBA has not once made a profit in any season. The fact is, the economics determine that the women can't justify higher salaries. The same people complaining about the salaries not being higher probably never attended a WNBA game either. The NBA brings in about $10 billion in revenue each year. The WNBA brings in about $60 million in revenue. Enough said.
@davidgreen3303 ай бұрын
They don't need equal money they need a bonus of a new stove
@TheNegativeDude3 ай бұрын
If a player name Ariana Judge broke into the Yankees after hitting 60 home runs in the major leagues, i would tune the fuck in every night just like i did for judge. But no, im not following some random league with random players who are playing mediocre baseball, football, hockey, basketball. i dont watch the pirates play. i want to watch the best of the best and if the best female players could compete with the best male players, id say pay them the same.
@IndifferentAgainstTheMachine3 ай бұрын
Then explain Peter Why did the USFL and XFL fail ? Because of sexism?
@beerme89493 ай бұрын
The answer is obviously no.
@Platerpus73 ай бұрын
Simple. If their league makes as much. Otherwise where will the money to pay them come from? Or do they expect taxes to be paying that too?
@LegionOfEclaires3 ай бұрын
Nope. When they earn the same TV ratings, sell the same amount of merchandise and sell the same amount of tickets, then they can have the same pay.
@kennethcamilleri46783 ай бұрын
Bill Burr has a classic rant on the WNBA…
@thomasgotting61053 ай бұрын
Easy answer. No! Hard answer. No! When you have millions of fans watching and a full stadium of 50.000 every game, yes. When you have 1.000 watching and an empty stadium. No! No matter what gender.
@CCubed33 ай бұрын
No nba stadium holds 50k lol
@thomasgotting61053 ай бұрын
@@CCubed3 It was an example for all sports. 🤦♂Buy yourself a brain.
@Platerpus73 ай бұрын
Who do they expect to pay it? Taxes?
@wilsonb11212 ай бұрын
What stadium is holding 50k?
@thomasgotting61052 ай бұрын
@@wilsonb1121 Really? Are you this lazy to read? 🤔
@bigpictureguys84153 ай бұрын
Not even worth having this conversation. If someone is seriously asking why they don’t make as much should simply be handed a registration form for an economics class.
@brianchua42403 ай бұрын
Business doesn't give a damn about your feelings. If you bring in the attendance and revenue, of course you deserve to make more money. Until then, shut up Peter.
@urbangorilla333 ай бұрын
Michael says it's a "tip-toe" topic the compares women's basketball to tiddlywinks. Nice one, MK! You're the king of finesse.
@zcorpalpha24623 ай бұрын
She made out with advertising deals
@schlp75662 ай бұрын
Hey Peter do the woman in WWE make as much as the men do? There are alot better woman wrestlers better than men but I am sure the woman don't get the money.
@PhoenixRising826723 ай бұрын
Dear Rosenberg Life isn't fair
@BakiSmaki273 ай бұрын
Caitlin Clark is great story and I hope her success translates to WNBA. But things have to happen organically. Lets see what happens as women's professional basketball continues to grow. The WNBA to this point has not generated enough revenue to pay higher salaries. Clark will certainly help but a lot more stars like her are needed.
@BakiSmaki273 ай бұрын
Peter, the Men's USA national soccer team isn't terrible. They missed qualifying for one world cup but for the last 25-30 years they've been competitive. You can't compare level of competition between women's soccer and men's soccer. It's not apples to apples. That being said if women's soccer is generating more revenues they need a fairer share and I belive that has been renegotiated recently.
@ChickenParmesan453 ай бұрын
The wnba is paid for by the nba 😂
@eriknewton46563 ай бұрын
sure as soon as their league starts bringing in the revenue the nba does. i like women's basketball but it doesn't generate the revenue the nba does to be able to pay their players like that. until they start marketing better and drawing more interest to their league of course there is going to be a large pay gap. its not because they are woman, its because their league doesn't generate the revenue and profit needed to pay their star players like nba stars.
@IndifferentAgainstTheMachine3 ай бұрын
Is it sexist that more people watch women figure skating than men's figure skating in the Olympics? NO. And its for the same reason here. more people like women's FS than men's. Peter just has to pander to someone , his day wouldn't be complete if he didnt.
@jhberg173 ай бұрын
It’s based on revenue. Duh.. so, obviously, no. When their league generates NBA money they should get the same percentage as the men do. It really isn’t that hard people.
@user-ex6je5vi1n3 ай бұрын
the word should in the title should be changed with can
@mattkrywyj51843 ай бұрын
Peter is so annoying LOL
@urbangorilla333 ай бұрын
As Peter says at 5:00, if there is sexism, it's not in the awarding of contracts. It's in the fact that most fans don't watch WNBA games.
@BakiSmaki273 ай бұрын
Bad over-generalized point as usual with Peter 😂
@zachstolpa65213 ай бұрын
@@BakiSmaki27 you want act like people dignify women’s sports the same as men’s get?
@blackeastertheguy3 ай бұрын
@@zachstolpa6521they don’t and they shouldn’t. It’s an inferior product. Not even feminists will watch and support the WNBA, that says it all.
@blackeastertheguy3 ай бұрын
The WNBA being an inferior product isn’t because of sexism. It’s because of biology. Men are more athletic and make a more entertaining product, that’s why no women ever play in the NBA because they can’t hang.
@bigpictureguys84153 ай бұрын
@@zachstolpa6521not finding the female athletes/competition as entertaining doesn’t make one sexist.
@MrQuinn-tc3uo3 ай бұрын
Equal pay for equal work. Its not equal work. They play less games, and are owned by different companies and generate less revenue, if they were owned by the same company and asked to do the same work, different story. Yes 10% is too low for the amount being made. Should be along the lines of 50%. Ok the nba subsidies it. Got it.
@ericmartinez34223 ай бұрын
The wnba should lower the rim to 9ft. Fans like to see dunks . Layups? That might help them.
@frederickrapp53963 ай бұрын
The NBA should raise the rim to at least 12 feet. Presently, It’s way too easy for your average NBA player to dunk the basketball at only 10 feet, and I refuse to pay money to watch a 6’8 guy dunk on a 10 foot basket. As it is, they hardly have to jump off the floor. At 12 or even 13 feet, it would be much more challenging for these guys, and dunks would be much more rare, and much more special when only a select few could still dunk at 12 or 13 feet.
@blackeastertheguy3 ай бұрын
@@frederickrapp5396next time you should preface your comment the fact that you’re a complete fool. You’ll save everyone their valuable time.
@Stacey_-bf2mb3 ай бұрын
Yes. Cap pro athlete earnings at $500k a year. That should even it all out nicely.
@bigpictureguys84153 ай бұрын
5:24 that’s such a dumb take. Not thinking female athletes are as entertaining is inherently sexist? Stop yourself Peter
@riding4beers8893 ай бұрын
Where exactly would this money come from? What a fucking stupid topic.
@ts93323 ай бұрын
It should come from the people who claim that they deserve more pay.
@zachstolpa65213 ай бұрын
Yeah only getting %10 of revenue in this day and age is definitely insulting, they desperately need to renegotiate the CBA.
@blackeastertheguy3 ай бұрын
They can’t. The League is already losing $10 million a year. If the players take more revenue when there is no profit. It becomes a $50 million hole for the NBA. League will be canceled after 5 years. You can’t justify a quarter billion dollar loss without serious mental gymnastics.
@zachstolpa65213 ай бұрын
@@blackeastertheguythe NBA is making money hand over fist, a compromise is out there. You’re acting like the NBA will fold if they allow a WNBA MVP to get a million dollar salary.
@OrientalHeat3 ай бұрын
If you think so, go take a basic economics class.
@LookingForBucho3 ай бұрын
Clown question.
@Izzy527813 ай бұрын
Peter always makes dumb comments. Sexism??? No Peter, the quality of basketball is no where near as good as the mens. Mens basketball is alot more exciting! Mens basketball is faster, more athletic and better basketball!
@feefop98583 ай бұрын
It's not even a topic worthy of discussion. Once the WNBA has annual revenues of $10B, then we can discuss it.
@SKS80803 ай бұрын
Don’t u know anything about economics???
@heyitsnunez3 ай бұрын
Peter is a tool
@gregthegroove3 ай бұрын
Start adding women players that can ball with the guys. See what happens…..
@frederickrapp53963 ай бұрын
I think you’re implying that women players couldn’t handle balling with the guys. But know what? If you let women play in the NBA, they would adapt and eventually improve and raise their game over time to play at the same level as the men. That is my sincere belief.
@moelarry80883 ай бұрын
@@frederickrapp5396it's not simply a matter of skill (which isn't very close anyway), it's a matter of biology. WNBA players could never compete with how physical the NBA demands its players are. G league teams would destroy WNBA teams based on physicality alone
@gregthegroove3 ай бұрын
@@frederickrapp5396 no I’m saying the opposite. Go ahead and put in a girl or 2 that can really get at it with the guys as a way, an avenue in to the idea so the public understands it. In fact, I’d legit open the tryouts in the D League as well. This isn’t the 70’s or 80s. I can totally see a select group of girls hanging with the guys. No question but that would open up a can of worms and the NBA wants no part of that BS
@blackeastertheguy3 ай бұрын
@@frederickrapp5396then you are sincerely a complete fool who failed basic biology.
@zachstolpa65213 ай бұрын
People missing what Rosenberg point instantly when they hear the word sexism, women’s sports do not get the same dignity as men’s sports do and that’s a fair take. Don is also right about how it’s a very young league relative to other major sports so that should be put into context.
@DM-mx9lu3 ай бұрын
🤣 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@duckz30993 ай бұрын
WNBA the League, Loses about 20 million a fucking season, how in the world IS ANY WNBA PLAYER GOING TO MAKE THE SAME AS NBA PLAYERS. It seriously is the dumbest fucking debate in the entire world. ITS PATHETIC. ITS PHYSICALLY FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE.
@cgtz95263 ай бұрын
Peter Is right. Just because you aren't a sexist person in your actions doesn't mean you don't dismiss the WNBA bc they are women . It might not be something you have thought about, but it's def true.
@blackeastertheguy3 ай бұрын
We dismiss the inferior product because it’s inferior and there is a Superior one, not because they have XX chromosomes. You’re basically arguing biological reality is sexism. That’s beyond the pale.
@zachstolpa65213 ай бұрын
@@blackeastertheguyso basically you choose not to dignify them
@blackeastertheguy3 ай бұрын
@@zachstolpa6521 No, I didn’t chose biological reality. No one did. There’s simply a better product and people only have so much time/money for basketball. Make the WNBA equal or better in talent and athleticism and then we can talk about sexism. It’s biologically impossible but you can try. People are under no moral obligation to consume an inferior product they don’t like. It is about entertainment not equality.
@zachstolpa65213 ай бұрын
Lots of people in these comments proving Peter right that women’s sports aren’t afforded the same dignity as men’s.
@vdoggydogg39223 ай бұрын
it's not as entertaining..that is not our fault. They need to be more entertaining.
@ts93323 ай бұрын
The WNBA doesn't turn a profit. If anything, they should feel privileged that they are making a living off of something that doesn't make money as a whole.
@ForestOfSleep3 ай бұрын
Women's Tennis, Women's Golf, Women's MMA all make plenty of money. Make a good product.
@blackeastertheguy3 ай бұрын
Respect is earned not given. Be just as good or better than the men and we will watch.
@WeBreakItAllDownRightHere3 ай бұрын
No one cares that professional softball players don't make the same as MLB players