The KV-34XBR910 is the exact same as the KD-34XBR960 except: 1) DVI instead of HDMI 2) No CableCARD 3) Does not accept MemoryStick Pro Duo without an adapter A couple notes: CableCARD is all the stuff cable companies use to uniquely authorize a cable box, except in modular form so that you can stick it in your fancy HDTV TV… the digital equivalent of a “Cable-ready TV” that doesn’t require renting a cable box. It was also useful if you brought your own cable box, like a digital HD TiVo, and didn’t want to pay to rent one from the cable co. Unfortunately, they charged almost as much for the CableCARD as they did for you to rent a cable box. iLink is just Sony’s marketing name for mini IEEE 1394 FireWire. Lots of digital camcorders and even the PlayStation 2 had it. Pioneer and others were pushing IEEE 1394 as the standard digital video interface over DVI/HDMI but it didn’t work out. I’m guessing Sony only has it to connect their digital camcorders for playback, hence why it is only on the front. The KV-34XBR910 and the KD-34XBR960 have the exact same SFP tube. The XBR970 switched to an inferior Taiwanese-produced tube. I’m the original owner of an XBR910, albeit, the 30” version that they discontinued for the XBR960 series. Back in 2003 I went with the KV-30XBR910 because many on AVSForum were reporting discoloration on the larger tubes that were supposedly due to the size making it difficult to keep the aperture grille aligned (green blobs). It’s also technically the highest DPI of any tube Sony ever produced, since it’s smaller but with the same resolution. It doesn’t like HiDef NES (640x480 only), UltraHDMI, or PC due to really sensitive timings but it still gets “WOW!”s every time someone sees it.

It’s crazy I had a great flatscreen lg tv from 2006. Must’ve been one of the first I guess. Picture was always great. Was a gift from my uncle when he got a new one. I would’ve still been using it as a spare today if I didn’t bump it into the garage door carrying it to my truck

I have a Philips DWIDE, it's SD but I love this wide CRT, geometry is perfect, flat screen, great for PS1 and up

FYI: iLink is Sony’s miniature FireWire connector. IEEE1394 FireWire was once competing with DVI and HDMI to be the digital Hi-Def standard, so those probably work like extra digital inputs. Only devices I know of that ever used it for a digital output were miniDV cameras but there might be a DVD player or two. AFAIK, the PlayStation 2 only used it for networking.

Neat video ilink was for communication with cam corders and that's also the main reason Sony put memory stick slots on the TV's for a bit. Cable card is really neat and it's a crying shame it was never really pushed more. Basically if you had a cable TV subscription instead of asking the cable company to rent a cable box, you just ask for the cable subscription card. Cable boxes used these same cards, it's a decryption / account key card. So basically if you plugged a cable card into your TV, your TV could access all the encrypted cable network channels on your paid account removing the need for a cable box!! Cable companies didn't like tv's to have this cause they couldn't rent you decryption set top boxes

Woooow beautiful 😍😍😍 I want this CRT

Wow, that's Great! Shall we have a Review about New Consoles on this HD CRT? From PS3, X360 to New Gen? I've seen a LOT of videos about this HD CRT and ALL people mentioned Input LAG but you're the first I've found who actually properly mentioned AND measured. Now that we know about Input LAG, what about Picture quality?

Cool video, but you seem to be using confusing input lag and response time as the same thing. Input lag is how long it takes for a signal to be displayed, response time is more so the amount of time it takes for a pixel to actually change when there is a change. A poor response time leads to lots of motion blur, ALL CRT's, HD or not, have an instantaneous response time. As soon as the gun scans the phosphors again, it changes. Some HD CRT's (basically all sony's) do some image processing (as you found out) which introduces a lag between when the signal is sent and when it is displayed. Your testing coincides exactly with mine, on a KDP-65WS550. 720P is 20 MS mid screen, 1080i is 30. not ideal, as 720P doesn't look great at 65 inches. There are service menu settings you can change which disable image processing at 1080i on the XBR960, making it very very close to lag free.

I have a Toshiba 32 inch HD CRT. The composit inputs show 576i when I check the settings. I absolutely love playing the old consoles on it. It seems like the SMS was built with this TV in mind. I have never detected any lag of any kind. I have even played Mike Tyson's punch out on it. My actual LCD in my living room is terrible with old consoles. It runs HD content through the HDMI port at 720i. The mini consoles are at home on this TV. Never detected any lag on them either. However, my Super NT Mini will not work through the HDMI port. I bought a HDMI to composite down scaler and it works perfectly with it. I'm guessing that this is an analouge HDTV. I read that there are a few of them out there. I can't find any information on the TV any where. So, that is my guess.

Ive had an RCA D34W20 since 2002 and it is fantastic. It supports 1080i over a DVI connection. My only gripe is that time hasn't been friendly to it. The right speaker went out around 3 to 4 years ago and all the front panel buttons seem to either not work correctly and will trigger other buttons. I want to turn the volume down and It ends up changing the input or opens the menu for example. I recently replaced all the capacitors in my Atari Race Drivin's monitor so I feel confident doing it on my HD CRT but I haven't gotten around to it quite yet.

i’m getting a square one of these for free. the wide looks cool, but i’m pretty excited. seems like a great choice for modern retro. so hooking up the steam deck will be fun oh it’s a kd-32xs945 i can’t seem to get a lot of info on the differences between the models. it really just looks like this one but square

dude you are becoming a professional

This CRT is basically the same as my really old SONY LCD, KDL-32V4000. It has RGB, S-video, composite, Component, RF, VGA and HDMI. I have a CRT in my setup that has RGB, S-video, composite, RF. Both of my screens are perfect for classic gaming. I mainly use the CRT for the older stuff like PS2, PS1, SEGA consoles, Commodore 64 etc. But still runs and looks good on the LCD with the correct input's.

Think my issue with a HD CRT is that if you want the best TV to play PS3/Xbox 360/ Wii era games than a Plasma is just better no? Native 720p, slightly lower input lag on good models, less bulky/heavy, cheaper/easier to find and they still have fantastic motion clarity. Maybe I'm missing something though haha I've just been thinking about whether I want a HD CRT or a Plasma...

I found my Panasonic Tau 26” HDCRT for 20$ at a second hard store, and I’ve never seen a working one pop up ever again. Still works with the remote

Those "Ilink" connections are indeed FireWire 400 ports. Those were intended to connect digital camcorders using tapes like mini DV or Super 8.

I just bought an hd crt today. I really don’t notice any input lag for anything right now.

12:55 nahh cause those 00s tv sets are just so spicy ykwis like even with a slight amount of higher input lag it would be so awesome to use plus the size is pretty wide of an array so from at least as small as a 13? Imch tv to about a 40 inch ( "Latin North" as quoted from the service menu so not certain what regions exactly that it ,eans by that are pr well would have or at least were prppossed to be released as big as a 42 inch screen size diagonal measured model specifically the Kv42drc if I recall from the list of about 12 or 16 different tv sets from about 20? Or 26 inch to 40 for "Hawaii" and "Us" and "Cnd" obviously latter one is canada... "Destination" models so I read specifically for purposes of the kv32hv600 (an improvement based upon peeps apparently not wanting always to be given drc or digital reality creation applied to their images... such as specifcially line doubling or else "Clarity×Reality" adjustments etc from a KVxxHS500 being a pre KVxxHV600 model so same but slight cjange to address complaints of customers etc or critiques both in either the 2002 model uear or else 2002 AND the latter of the 2001 model year oh also Dvi was added obviously for the compliance of the dvi function being part of most 2002 to 2004 then 2004 onwards using HDMI so digital video AND sound onwards to present with minor tweaks over time added to increase varjous finctions such as adding 3d for somebody if they can see 3d or have even vision in botj eyes that also woshed to use it but that kind of never really to my knowleadge took off exactly enough to stay relevant... it was around 2013 ish when curves became all of a sudden a lg and samsung tv thing (twist that tiem was the IN facing curves not the OUT faced screens of the lower end albeit lighter front and more back/rear heavy types of "Fishbowl" tubes for displays of the lower end and or smaller less expensive to acqiire models of direct view at least.. crt sets of the 00s and near all of the pre 00s sets startng in the 30s or so when mechanical tv became obsolete or surpassed

I want a 27 inch verison of this. Seems like it might be movable at that height

awesome video! I Subbed i wish i can find this tv i always tho HDMI CRT was a fake thing but this video made me shack I hope u can tell me where u found this tv i will catch it xd

I have the XBR970 and it's barebones in features. The PCM/ Dolby Digital out was for satellite signals so I can't run my consoles through HDMI and pass the DD signal to a surround sound receiver. It also goes 1080i, but I still just use 720p because I think the screen's too small to notice a clarity difference.

Laserfights must have the coolest house in the world full of the best stuff.

My mom actually has this same model for her to watch her old VHS and DVD movies/TVshows.

The problem with PS3 games is that the console had no hardware scaler so most HD games supported one HD resolution or the other, meaning 720p or 1080i. You didn’t exactly get your choice. It was even worse for most HD CRTs since they typically only supported one HD resolution and if that wasn’t the one your PS3 game had it would get knocked down to 480i/p. This wasn’t a problem for Blu-Ray since the playback software actually could scale it but that wasn’t happening with games since the CPU was obviously busy running the game.

Hi Laserfights, what brand of analog converter did you to use to connect the Time Sleuth to the CRTs? I'm having trouble finding a reliable, lagless HDMI to component converter.

I'd love one of these to play my old videogames hehe =/

I've heard if you go into the service menu and change the HDPT and YOSW settings to 0 that it will make 1080i/540p sources near lagless. I own the exact set but not a time sleuth. Would you be willing to test this out at some point and upload a follow up video?

I do miss the scanline and contrast effect of crts, but that's kind of it really. My 2004 Panasonic plasma has all of these inputs and seems to have zero input lag with analogue consoles when set to game mode - everything from the SNES all the way up to the Sega Dreamcast looks terrific. Picture wise, composite looks best though. Because once I push the resolution and clarity any higher than 480i things look jaggy and terrible.

I picked my self up a 480i Widescreen 50hz/60hz set non of the stupid 100+hz Set. it is perfect for everything. if i want the sharpness of HDTV sets, i mint as well go with a Oled.

CableCARD lets you get your premium cable TV channels without a cablebox, cheap as hell to rent from the cable company, wish you paid for cable TV, would love to see a cablecard in action. The Control S in/out are for Sony VHS and DVD as a way to turn the TV on/off and switch input when a casette or DVD is inserted.

My Samsung hd crt has the best response in 1080i but after a hdmi doctor dongle on hdmi the response is better then compo in any resolution.

I had one, miss it. Played wii and ps3 on it.

Hey, have you tested with a high speed camera to see if 720p is actually drawing all 720 lines or converting to 1080i? Because most people say it converst to 1080i but your results suggest otherwise.

This is exactly what I keep telling people that 480p and 720p is where these sets shine. people just feed it the wrong signals. you can't expect a flat panel to work well just plugged in with a 240p/480 I these are the same. using them correctly with the resolution it works with they are great. people just constantly talk down on them so most just end up in the bin unfortunately.

So, your recommendation for PS3 or Xbox 360 games would be a 720p setting?

What is a herretic?

but there is widescreen crt's some can have 1080p, samsung also made a few rare 2k crts?

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qqp8hNV4sKvShn0.html This TV is lagless at 1080i. You need to enable HDPT in the service menu.

I own this tv and I play retro and modern games and I never felt input lag

Do light guns still work on HD CRTs?

I wonder if this does 240p. The samsung hdctr slims do. Edit: it does. So this is perfect for most retro games. Still good to have a regular crt with this

I like HD CRT TVs better than flat screens. The only drawback is their weight.

no HD CRT output 720p. It can take those signals but will either upscale to 1080i or downscale to 480p. So those PS3 games shown at 720p were actually in 1080i in all likelihood. The best uses for a widescreen HD CRT are for widescreen Wii games (DK Country Returns, NSMB Wii, Super Mario Galaxy 1&2, Metroid Prime, Mario Kart Wii, Wii Sports Resort, Legend of Zelda TP and SS, etc) because you're getting a one to one 480p in and out. It's the best the game can look and run including modern TVs. The PS2 and OG Xbox each had several dozen games that ran in widescreen 480p and each had a handful that ran in 1080i so for these games a HD CRT would work brilliantly. Pretty much every Xbox 360, PS3 and Wii U game will need some scaling involved, up from 720p to 1080i or down from 1080p to 1080i which is why Plasma and LCD televisions was the way to go for that generation

I thought S-Video could only do up to 480i

So you can't buy a time sleuth anymore?

Oh man infamous is such a great game so is infamous 2 man no joke

How heavy is it?

Go to the service menu, then find HDPT and change it from 1 to 0 and that will turn off the 1080i processing reducing lag from 33.00 to 0.78 for 1080i inputs. You are welcome.

I wanted this for of xbox

Only Xbox and ps2 do 720p or 1080i respeticvely from the 6th gen as far as hdtv videogames etc from the 6th gen consoles whereas dc is svideo or else 480p by a vga out... or else gamecube nintendo is also 480p albeit by either component video or else a japanese region only "d terminal"

It's a shame they didn't sell those one in EU...

2:36 not composite but rather component inputs

720p is the sweet spot

No shit, the analog input that is labelled for progressive scan, is the first one that accepts it (480p). @ 9:32

1990s meets 2010s

Short answer: no

It is not the same. I brought my Sega in a circuit City back in 2004ish. I got many smiles. Sonic is the best way to check for lag. The console has none and the signal was composite. I'm guessing that everything had to be converted to digital first because the game sucked ass and I was not amused and never looked back. We are used to twice or three times the lag as back in the analog days. It could make you a better gamer if you ever go back.

Lucky bastard, I've been looking for one of these forever, they're like a white whale to me lol.