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Kariuki Ke Yup. And Java salaries are going to be through the roof.

LOL!

lol. I'm a big fan by the way. Been watching you since I was an aspiring programmer. Now I'm a professional. keep it up!

We are missing or misinformed the true reason to why Google is slowly moving from Java to Kotlin www.theverge.com/2019/11/15/20946398/oracle-google-java-copyright-lawsuit-trial-supreme-court-request This is also the reason behind Dart Programming language exists. As far as Java being so complex, I've my reservations. It's not the Java language that is complex, but Java EE. Two different things. Even the learning curve between Java and Kotlin is nearly the same for someone with no OOP experience.

Thanks Bilbo!

Hi Stefan, I'm beginner android dev, just started to learn Java basics and android studio. How do you think, what is the future for android devs, considering the appearance of Fuchsia and Dart ? And how Fuchsia app development will differ from android? Sounds like good question for a new video, huh?

Thanks!

I'm in your exact position right now. So I'm wondering ..3 years later...how are you doing ? how is your progress and do you have any tips for me ? Would appreciate it a lot ! Thanks :D

There you go. Geo is always important.

Garrett Rose - I thought BOA mostly use Python.

And what about Golang, Dart and Rust?

why anyone would want to work for a big, slow, heavily regulated company using legacy systems is beyond me.

"especially Bank of America" *Hahahaha* #JavaSecurity

Probably true.

Well put. I had a bigger laugh than I probably should have. +1

LMAO... Hell yeah!!

It’s a sad fate that one day we will all die. 😞

And Java will remain strong as an oak tree.

lukijuxxl HTML isn't a programming language goddamn

ObinAtor 1 neither is xml god damn.

Love the JVM. Hate the language, and its culture.

Good point! When I think agnostic, I think of the end result: not being 'religious' about one language or another. If you follow what I mean.

Your right on the money Denis. Basically treat the languages like tools rather then a absolute. Focus on good practices. "The right tool for the right job!"

Den, well for me that sounds like you don't believe that any language is good at all lol To me Stefan's term still sounds better.

Bastien Auxer polytheistic if we're gonna go down that route lmao

Code Jihadi :D

Java could die but yeah is and C++ are a lil newer than the old java java is the first programming language in the world.

This is true. But I think that the main point here is "what job do you want?". As a Java dev with 4 years of experience I have had enough. Legacy, inner systems of big corporations... ow, the horror...

Dude! I get that!!! Exactly, choose languages based on the TYPE of work you want.

I'm going to try and make myself a FrontEnd Dev. I already know AngularJS so I think that MEAN stack will be good, along with some XXAMP. My goal is to get to UI/UX designer from the coding side. Quite a way to go but I think that this will suit me most. I prefer to work from home or in a small company. Open space just kills me...

@J W - I think the main problem with "MEAN" is the Mongo part. I'd rather use PostgreSQL: the data goes somewhere safe at the end of the day, but I don't have to put up with Oracle. (Pg also has JSON types to use to prototype things as "documents", then figure out core data constraints later as actual, mandatory, checked, etc, columns) I say this because any app of significance usually has data that long outlives the hacky code of the day attached to it, and Mongo might not be where you really want you data slopped away into a few years from now. I love ECMAScript, though. It's like Smalltalk, er, Ruby, with a dash of Lisp-ish stuff thrown in. Yummy.

Cool. Rod Johnson first introduced an early version of Spring in a book he wrote for Wrox. I remember it well.

Spring Boot for the win !

give me your fb pls..i want to be in touch with you !!

Lukas David hello , can you please suggest one of the free onlIne sources to learn spring framework thank you

@Lukas How do I set a /register and /login endpoint which is secured with spring security and stores that auth information back in mysql? I've looked at many tutorials and tried to do this about 4 times. Each time, there is some bloated error. I just can't get into Spring even though they dub it as lightweight, it feels so bloated. I managed to finish a fullstack crud app with authentication and rest endpoints in few hours in MEAN stack, but with Spring, I cant get the auth part itself to work. And I am quite good with Core Java(or JavaSE as they call it). So any good resources to learn? thanks

Couldn't have said it better myself!

This indeed. My education was 90% Java and after graduation I also continued working with Java. However my education mainly teach how to program. Now programming is skill people should learn, not specific language. Even I am most fluent with Java, I have done multiple software with React, Angular, C++, Python and Ruby. I love learning new languages and with every project I really think what technologies I am going to use. Sticking with language because "I am good with this" or "I think language X is best for everything" is really bad thing. Is Java useful? Definitely and I think I will work with Java for good some time. Like this video says it is really used language in big systems for big companies (I myself work mainly in educational sector). But I still like to use other languages as well. I have developed our company internal software with React and I've done so much fun free time projects with other languages as well. Huge thumb up for programming, huge thump down for "my language is best in the world"

I learned Java after C and I couldn't stand it. I hate putting everything in classes and most of what you are taught in Java revolves around stuff that you should NOT do, since Inheritance is highly problematic and shouldn't be used. So learning Java is like learning the arbitrary rules of an overly complex and tedious game, but those rules don't help the coder and they don't help the computer. Plus, as I am not a fan of the Smartphone market (and their bad OSes and gimmicky cash grabs) there is literally no field that Java dominates that I am remotely interested in.

"with a legacy system built on Java 1.4 / Tomcat 5. " Holy crap .... that's really old-school! There are and will be lots of legacy Java code to maintain for years to come.

Develop apps and post them on sites like Github

I found that a lot of companies actually hire remotely, although that it's mostly node.js, angular, python and similar (mostly web dev.) so you might want to check that out.

I have my resume out, and even though I say .net, I've had a couple like that pop up. I'll have to look some more into it though. And for your earlier question, I would say C#. I've played a bit with java, and I don't mind writing the basic code that I have, it does seem to get bogged down compared to other solutions that are out on the current market. In my searching, I'm not even searching specifically looking for .net positions, but they seem to make up a huge chunk of what I see regardless. But like Stefan said, it's probably a regional thing. Plus, C# has a million uses. For instance I was playing around with the unity game dev software because a lot of the scripting is done in C#.

The salary is going to be the reason I am planning to quit my internship where I worked with React and spend 4-5 months on learning Java and getting a job as a java dev

Hey! Yes ... for freelance, PHP is great. Loved Java back in the day but PHP is so productive.

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have you tried to relocate?

How there are so many jobs posted and so few opportunities for juniors? I wanted to start learning Java but this is really scary.

I think it's because Java involves "industrial-grade" apps that enterprises are not willing to take risks on jr devs without a 4 Year Degree. Some enterprises do have a program for top talent to retain their future skills but they certainly won't put them into Java development right away... that's what was explained to me by high-level managers and top headhunters in my local market.

I disagree. It really depends on a project and on existing code-base and people behind it. I have worked in several HUGE enterprises and the situation is always the same: 1. The bigger enterprise - the more old/legacy/never-ending projects it has. In this case, almost each time code itself will be in a poor condition and you will be forced to deal with such code as you would not be allowed to tamper with things that "just work" 2. The bigger enterprise - the more people with extremely poor IT knowledge it would have. This especially goes for foreigners from third world countries. Such people usually think, that EU, for instance, is a good place to escape and Java is easy to learn. Combine those two and you will get >=50% of "developers" in a BIG enterprise.

Strange weather these days. Thanks!

Thanks! I always liked the xfiles! ;)

Yep.You are correct. Did you know that Swift can run at nearly C++ speeds!

Welcome.

Yes. PHP is very lightweight. That said, Tomcat was bad back then ... I used to use Caucho Resin.

Agreed. Going to stop shooting at F1.8. Shutting it down to 2.8.

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Learn something else before you learn OOP. Classes should be used like structures: When they are useful and not always for no reason like in Java. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pZ-geN2YrdXWeGQ.html Another problem is that when you learn Java you may be taught all this stuff about inheritance and dynamic types and all the overly complex rules that were invented. But the problem is that inheritance is a bad idea: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msePhdmflcfZXZs.html Since Inheritance is so problematic, you will learn so many rules of this overly verbose (in the wrong places) language that are simply useless for your own programming. All these "features" that take months or years from your life that should not be used... What does Java have left to make up for that?

TheJacksDan With Java 9 we have this Module System ( Project Jigsaw) so you get to choose only the part of the API your Application needs (makes it less heavy; it's good for cloud based applications ). With Java 8, Java 9 and in the coming releases Oracle will be implementing major syntax elements to make Java code less verbose, for example lambda expressions (since Java 8), Project Valhalla ( for Java 10, most probably), JShell ( similar to Xcode's playgrounds), etc

Java 11... September... COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT! ORACLE IS ILLUMINATI AND WAS BEHIND THE 9/11 ATTACKS CONFIRMED

You can make your app at home and sell it on a site, you can also make websites, android apps. Java is great don't worry ;)

You forgot Clojure? (did say "etc", though) There are so many better replacements for the Java language, it's hard to choose just one :-)

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Absolutely correct. Thanks!

Yea. In this one I talk about my courses ... but only a few shameless self promotions in 500 videos is pretty good!

Stefan Mischook yeah, your videos always contain a lot of useful info, thanks for that

Which programming language do you use? I like Java's syntax coz its closer to C/C++/C# than say python. But yeah Java's code for a web project can feel super weird and ugly.

Got my BS-CS in '88. Java *IS* ugly. Much ugliness was inherited from C/C++, but they made Java wordier along the way. C# sucks a little bit less, but, you know, Microsoft. Shudder... (Rob observes a moment of silence for Borland, et al)

Am I weird if I don't find it ugly, but rather beautiful in its degree of clarity and descriptiveness? And if I use a good IDE, I don't even have to type much.

William Freire: 1) You're not weird. My guess is about 2/3 of the industry prefer the wordy, restricted, approach. I just happen to be in the other 1/3 or so :-) 2) What the IDE spews forth, I then have to read, often many times. :-(