Should You Play WITH or WITHOUT Sound Effects?

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Should you play with Sound Effects (SFX, SE, Hitsounds) ON or OFF?
This video will walk you through why you would want to play with them on or off in Project SEKAI! This can also apply to other games as well.
I will be making a Full Combo/All Perfect Guide, but I needed to make this video because if I just made one Full Combo/All Perfect video it would take me over an hour to explain everything probably. That time will probably come eventually, but not now.
This ties in together with Offsets and Note Speed, so that video will probably be next. I hope you found this video useful.
Players mentioned in the video:
Mita Kousuke: • ヤミナベ"ALL PERFECT"の瞬間 3... (clipped)
Enamel Man: • 【プロセカ】ヤミナベ!!!! [MASTER...
Rein: • 【スマホ勢と最高速】ヤミナベ!!!! (MA...
HPS: • 【プロセカ】ヤミナベ!!!! MASTER...
初心者: • 【プロセカ】小学6年生がヤミナベ!!!!（速...
REN: • 【プロセカ】ヤミナベ!!!! (MASTER...
Songs in video:
Yaminabe!!!! （ヤミナベ！！！！) - cosMo
Don't Fight The Music - Chroma
TONDEMO-WONDERZ (トンデモワンダーズ) - sasakure.UK
The Intense Voice of Hatsune Miku (初音ミクの激唱）- cosMo
Jinsei (Our Life) (人生) - Ann-Melts P
Lower one's eyes (ロウワー) - nuyuri
Shanti (シャンティ) - wotaku
Parasol Cider (パラソルサイダー) - Nanahoshi (ナナホシ管弦楽団) MORE MORE JUMP! Cover
Setsuna Trip (セツナトリップ) - Last Trip
FIRE BIRD - Roselia (from that Chunithm gameplay)
BGM:
斜陽に照らされて

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@anthonymansour8492 27 күн бұрын

You said that tapping early when having SE on is because you’re listening to the SE, which has audio latency, instead of the music. What confuses me is doesn’t the SE and music have the same latency? Why would you tap early then if you’re listening to the same timing? Also if it was due to latency wouldn’t you be tapping late, not early?

@biriamu 27 күн бұрын

You might actually be right. I did a bit of testing and tick notes (in holds and sliders) seem to line up perfectly, even with bluetooth audio. Therefore SE and the music should share the same audio latency. Thanks for bringing this up. With that said, audio latency still plays a role here. The "tapping to the music" (3:05) example kinda puts that into perspective, as when I did tap to the music, I ended up with a lot of late greats, indicating that the audio was in fact slightly behind. Turning off SE and offsetting backwards helps in mitigating the audio latency. The case about tapping early (MGPD gameplay 2:29) might be more of a touch input latency issue, meaning that after your initial tap, the tap would register ever so slightly late, which gives off the impression that there is an audio latency issue going on (based on my initial conclusion). The impact this has on the player will depend on their playstyle, but for most, I think it is largely a non-issue. Hopefully this answered some of your questions. This comment highlighted some points that I had trouble explaining for the video, so I will be pinning it. Again, thanks for bringing these concerns up.

@AsterWi 26 күн бұрын

i like playing without sound effects cause i can appreciate the music more

@gray1sh. 28 күн бұрын

the loud environment noises😭

@darkninjax39 28 күн бұрын

no bgm is more helpful and easier for me and also more satisfying to hear my taps :D

@rfunni 27 күн бұрын

rhythm gaming without the music

@-touhoufan 27 күн бұрын

Thats a bit weird

@N1GHTF3V3R_ 27 күн бұрын

game without the rhythm

@elledayooo 27 күн бұрын

@@darkninjax39 i do that when i get annoyed with songs lol

@Yoisaki_canada 27 күн бұрын

@@elledayooo fr, like me with hitorinbo envy

@WillowIsntSeenDead 27 күн бұрын

I love it when enamel man gets the recognitions he deserves

@biriamu 27 күн бұрын

His playstyle is the most beautiful I've ever seen

@lheannelheannelheanne 26 күн бұрын

Real

@SasukaRH 28 күн бұрын

in my experience, i think the biggest weakness in playing with sfx is that doing ghost taps is not really possible unless you're playing with a high volume, but sfx help you get to a correct rhythm better as they are a lot less ignorable than real finger taps.

@H.Rena_2362 25 күн бұрын

Not using SE is when your fingers make SE itselfs

@biriamu 25 күн бұрын

so trueeee

@H.Rena_2362 25 күн бұрын

@@biriamu aslo there is a person who really good with SE he have the youtube their name is CARBO28473

@floofyyy 25 күн бұрын

I use no tap sound effects because its just honestly distracting when it comes to spam notes.

@hifumindesu6784 28 күн бұрын

good video 5:09 with hitsounds, songs sometimes become inaudible at higher diff charts (hold note tick spam, catch/drag note spam, etc) 6:12 when playing trills and streams, it's also better to accent certain notes to keep track of the downbeat accenting is basically just tapping (usually once every 4 or 8 notes) slightly harder than everything else if you turn off hitsounds, you can hear and feel the note that you are accenting, instead of getting hitsounds that are the same volume for every note

@biriamu 27 күн бұрын

you're absolutely right on that! thank you :)

@insaneprsk 28 күн бұрын

shoshinsha isnt human!! also very nice explanation of SFX, thanks senma taki :)

@biriamu 27 күн бұрын

🫡

@CreativeStarlet 27 күн бұрын

I think my main problem is that though my audio is off-timing with the notes, I've never been able to figure out the offsets. Thanks for this new info though!

@biriamu 27 күн бұрын

I'll be going over offsets in my next video! 😁

@ShlokPatil_2000 27 күн бұрын

This is very helpful. Thank you!

@MegaGamer22 23 күн бұрын

this editing is great! you deserve more subs!

@Renzoe_.E 27 күн бұрын

Honestly, I mostly play with SE off, mostly because I'm more of an audio listener. But I also sometimes crank that SE volume up to 60, and maybe even turn off the bgm volume, just so I can hear asmr, and what it sounds like without music (My speed is like 10.4 [10.40-10.45 on jp], sometimes I'll try out eleven and my offset is -1.5, and I use wireless headphones :])

@ginibushitrust 28 күн бұрын

dude this is so underrated, thanks >;3

@TES00001 15 күн бұрын

CONGRATS ON 1K!!!! YOU DESERVE IT! 🔥 ❤ I WAS HERE SINCE 100 SUBSCRIBERS!

@biriamu 14 күн бұрын

lets go!!!

@-thatonecrazyduo-_ 27 күн бұрын

I play with sound effects. Why? No copyright in KZfaq.

@TES00001 28 күн бұрын

Great video 👍👍👍👍❤❤❤❤

@biriamu 27 күн бұрын

Thank you!!

@kimberly_36 26 күн бұрын

i personally don’t have my sound effects on because when i get a great it sounds rlly bad in the rhythm of the song and i get thrown off (especially when i get a lot in a row) plus not having them on let’s me hear the song more but that’s a personal preference

@hanhi2447 15 күн бұрын

I like without se cause i like the music

@angelinabvby 28 күн бұрын

i came here to see saki

@Lussid 24 күн бұрын

i turned off my sfx and now I'm getting nearly all perfects on expert diff!! this is so crazy

@realfyodor 16 күн бұрын

well I wear headphones and they are quite loud so I dont actually hear my own fingers tapping and I love the sound effects but I never tried playing without them, maybe I should give it a try

@tydude 24 күн бұрын

There are three different latencies: audio, display, and input latency, so it can be confusing to account for each! Most rhythm games have audio offset which accounts for the three latencies only if you turn off hitsounds. Rhythm games that use key sounds (unique sounds for each note like in IIDX) have no audio offset but instead have visual offset to account for display latency (these games require more visual reaction in my experience). I don’t know if there are any rhythm games that have input offset, so best way to reduce input latency is use good hardware like iPad Pro or 8000hz keyboard or mouse

@Nekomimix 25 күн бұрын

I turn off SE cause not only is audio synced with the music but I’m also able to associate haptics (touch) to the music. The only thing I have to worry about is input lag, which is the reason for the negative timing of the notes.

@furowara 28 күн бұрын

for me, i play without se, cause it makes me concentrate on the chart more.

@ConstantIce 27 күн бұрын

O: I removed sound effects, and almost beat Masters

@Oyasumi061 27 күн бұрын

SO I AM RIGHT ‼️

@siyonabaruah 27 күн бұрын

Saki Tenma

@biriamu 27 күн бұрын

Saki Tenma!

@cosmouc 24 күн бұрын

Saki Tenma?

@ericthecuberspeedcuber 27 күн бұрын

i play with no sound effects but the offset is still 0

@daRksideee 26 күн бұрын

I probably have learned the basic of rhythm game, but I still can't play fast songs that have long repetitive notes (jacks?). Not to mention everytime drum rolls appear I would missed like 80% of the notes XD

@elledayooo 27 күн бұрын

personally i play at speed 11.3-11.4 with my offset at -1.6! i also play with sfx louder than the bgm (sfx is 100, bgm is 65)

@biriamu 27 күн бұрын

ooh that's pretty fast 😯😯😯

@Sweetcakegamer 25 күн бұрын

im proud to say that i play at 11.7 im not gona lower ima die if i do ;D (btw i did a quick test i played /w my healer team no music only se on 11.7 total heath at the end was 410-420 then on 11 total heath at the end was 1050 also i did better /w only se vs only music)

@V1KZTI 6 күн бұрын

3:06 I tried this with brain fluid explosion girl With no sound effects, i had over 200 late greats with 0 offset With -2 offset, i had only 30 late greats With -2.5 offset, i had only 15 late greats At this point i could ap the song if i kept going backwards

@biriamu 6 күн бұрын

Keep at it, you can do it!

@naicherry4522 24 күн бұрын

ok im not joking when i say this i turned off the sound effects and played a show and lowkey I PLAYED SO MUCH BETTER?????? LIKE LITERALLY HOW i am playing with no sound effects from now on :3

@minoena 25 күн бұрын

hmm interesting. i’m an audio player i guess? but if i turn audio off i do perfectly fine, sometimes better. i’ve played with and without tap sounds before. i’ve also played without music and only tap sounds. i haven’t noticed any of those dramatically changing my accuracy. i play on 11.0 and barely have my latency changed. (it’s perfectly set btw, no issues with it.) i enjoy no tap sounds bc it’s a music focus. but i enjoy tap sounds bc they match well with the music. and playing without music just feels really good sometimes lol. i do that if i’m trying to fc a song and am messing up on certain parts. my sound effects are at like a 10 volume lol. anything else is distracting.

@PCIeTeam 27 күн бұрын

I turn off SFX when IT LITERALLY IS OFF-SYNC with my taps/press additional example: maimaiでらっくす has TOUCH Jugdement effect. With my offset of 1.2 [A] and 2.0 [B], I had to turn it off because wtf it's too distracting 😭

@Yumi-i 27 күн бұрын

I play with thumbs, and without sound effects

@Parafika 28 күн бұрын

well, it's just personal preferences...

@SasukaRH 28 күн бұрын

he says that at the end 😭

@Parafika 28 күн бұрын

@@SasukaRH oh ya?, i didn't watch the video actually hehe

@i_am_kaede 26 күн бұрын

just started playing pjsk and I play with sfx off because my timing is at around -14 (horrible input latency that doesn't happen in other rhythm games)

@biriamu 26 күн бұрын

that's quite a lot. what device do you use?

@Oyasumi061 27 күн бұрын

Hey I have a question can you do a video abt the app soundgamestraining this is such a good app And pjsk player should know that !!

@biriamu 26 күн бұрын

I personally don't use the app myself but I'll consider it 👍

@Oyasumi061 26 күн бұрын

@@biriamu Ooh ok tysm !!

@julianobleza3186 25 күн бұрын

0:07 How did bro fc it on that speed 😭😭😭

@biriamu 25 күн бұрын

@@julianobleza3186 we've yet to confirm whether the player is human 😅😭

@jorgebarbosajfsb8665 25 күн бұрын

I am the weird guy that play with bluetooth headphones (> 40ms latency), so i need to turn the SE off

@GobbiExists 27 күн бұрын

I would play without SFX but if it only occurred in shows and not in the rest of the game Edit: ok im dumb i kept doing system volume as I thought show volume would have to be changed every show 💀

@mewstone8442 28 күн бұрын

pow

@biriamu 27 күн бұрын

pow!

@JofoDuh 27 күн бұрын

Being an experienced a dance of fire and ice player, adofai hitsound and song always line up and when I tried out pjsk due to some friend requests, I immedietely turned off the sound effects and used my finger taps to properly adjust my offset xd, since I developed a pretty good sense of rhythm from playing adofai for a long period and the offsync with the hitsound and song really ticks me off, and this seems to be the case for almost all mobile rhythm game. Even for Muse Dash PC edition. I'd say if you have a really good sense of rhythm for music when tapping along side it, disable sound effects since it will just messes up your rhythm with music.