Well now you know thats not the case 😅

Thank you man, try to implement it 👍

Yep, i believe easier variations are usually better than bands too 👍

Appreciated Brother 🤝

Sounds good man 👍

Hahahah well i disagree with Mike on certain elements, but overral implementing his advice has been very valuable (training harder, but less)

And weight lifters don't pick up heavy weight with a spotter since the don't care about The angel, It already is the right angle

Angle is not your concern man, 35kg band? Man you should be doing them Pike pushups and weighted dips at that level, you cannot cut corners with bands like that even if you are in an optimal RM%

​@@SasaVenosThank you for the response, by the way it really was just for curiosity and i only use the light band. Besides, i still don't train the planch yet i do handstand push-ups

Unfortrunely there are no cycles in my training. It might be a mistake im making but for now i am just fine. When i reach an unbreakable PLATEAU then i might change something drastically

Its normal for us calisthenics enjoyers, dont worry man our tendons are well prepared to withstand the load (most of the time 😬)

I believe it would work BUT, too slow and simply unecessary. There is a better way

Depends on your level. Band that takes away 5-8kg is the best to train the skills (in my opinion)

Good accesory, i would still prioritise anterior delt strenght

If you have money to spend then yeah, they are amazing, especially if you don't take away more than 5-8kg. I still think that bands do the job fine though

Man i love elias. The thing is for example, caffeine never had an effect to me so i would know anything about it, eating in his style was also impossible for me (eat every other day, fasting on the day you train). Its all about a persons mindset and i think elias is just a MONSTER. He also had a lot of injuries because he trained too frequently (every other day), which is fine if you do low intensity and higher volume but still. I also tried his dropset training for skills (going from bw to heavy bands, a giant set) but it produced minimal result to just training with a light band and bodyweight. He is super strong obviously so doing high volume for him is fine because he can do that shit with his bodyweight anyway, heavy bands are good for getting a lot of volume in without accumulating much fatigue, thats why they are enjoyable. However i do not think they are productive as much, if they were, trust me i would use them. Great question!

@@SasaVenos Thanks for the thought-out answer. Love your content btw - there are not many people on KZfaq, who talk about periodization and programming in relation to calisthenics/MAG.

Depending on the angle of your straddle+ you should add more hold, 10sec or smthng

I would do banded full front lever holds and slow negatives from inv hang

If you cant hit 8", still train it in full but incorporate straddles too, maybe even more than fulls

@@SasaVenos Ok thanks 🙏 Dropset is it a good option? Like Holding full in light band for exemple 80% max (to don’t reach 1rm) + spreading legs to hold in straddle to reach above 8’ hold in the set Or do you mean start with for exemple 3set of full and then go for straddle

Well i did only attempts, but honestly a lot of attempts

Do it after the static workout

@@SasaVenos then will you have to recover more after such training? add more rest days?)

Dont overthink, do normal sets with the same amount of rest and progressively overload

Hooks man

Thank you

Learn the planche + front lever first, then start doing cross lowers with feet assistance until you can do it with a light band. Im 170cm, my elbows were more than conditioned enough because i had ground straddle maltese before crosses

@@SasaVenos yes, yes I do agree with you. But 170cm height or arm span? if arm span, I'm having 10cm more and thus required longer conditionning and more strenght according to the formula - "Torque is determined by multiplying the applied force by the distance from the point of rotation to the point where the force is applied. For an iron cross, in common parlance this means half your body weight times the length of your arm from shoulder to wrist times two." This fomula can be applied to all static holds with straight arms. This is why athletes like Daniels Laizans are very very rare and nowadays dominated by those of small body structure.

Not in my opinion

@@SasaVenos ok

Great comment. Why would you do low volume planche with a heavy band? Do you know how far away you are and how many steps you have just skipped? My theory is simply this; master the prerequsities, for each skill Always. You will make it way easier for yourself in the end and you will emerge stronger. Lastly believing that progress needs to be slow is a mindset

Very strong man, i like to watch his videos but in regards to the bands i disagree with him. I do not believe that a lot of assistance is the way to these skills and improving them

@@SasaVenos what about using weight lifting as a means to improve skills ? DB OHP // Planche RTO Dip // Iron Cross Weighted Pull-up // Front Lever

​@@Devoidoften238i like that, im an advocate for it

No, why 🤣

@@SasaVenos Think it'd be pretty cool to learn from and ask questions from someone experienced like you

Awesome. Building up your prerequisites (anterior delt strenght) might have helped you to get it faster. For not-so-talented individual this is the better way

@@SasaVenosYeah I also did bodybuilding before learning planche

I was unable to record the third one so it seemed kinda pointless to continiue cuz it wouldnt be accurate 😅

170cm

Sorry for your time 😅

How to you expect to do a VG without doing planche? Or you are saying you Just dont wanna stop on planche?

I meant that these are my goals even if it takes years, but i don't want to waist my time holding isometrics if they won't help me get to my goals

​@@eduardolufte7856👆

@@uralura If you can't even hang in the bar you can't pull up. Same logic for VG. The isometric planche training is boring but you need to master it before you start dynamic planche exercises. If don't like training isometric like me, try to do planche presses from a handstand, they can be tuck, adv tuck, straddle, etc. It's effective and more enjoyable.

Vegan is great, i think he would progress faster if he was to do more light banded and bodyweight specific training. Of course it depends on the persons goals