Really interesting to hear this. I'm 6'1" and weigh 90kg and have more steroid injections than I care to remember, followed by microdiscectomy surgery at L5/S1 and sacroiliac joint fusion surgery and although I now walk 6km five days a week and swim three times a week, bending is not something my back likes and it can flair up from time to time resulting in the usual symptoms for someone like me, e.g. spasm, nerve pain down the leg etc etc... but these are short blips thankfully I'm 46 and stopped playing golf 10 years ago due to back pain, which the surgeries have now improved. I was playing off a handicap of 15 when I very very very reluctantly admitted defeat and quit the game due to pain that became both chronic and unmanagable. My clubs were 2nd hand regular spec off the shelf clubs and always felt too small for me in hindsight. Now I'm keen to start golfing again, and have practiced hitting a few balls with a 4 hybrid (i.e. long club) with a changed swing, i.e. using a lateral turn as you describe. Can you tell me what clubs you are using please? what shaft flex and weight etc? are the clubs all one length? where you got them etc please? I've gone for a club fitting which was a waste of time as the club fitter didn't get someone with requirements like mine, i.e. he was just saying, yeah you need +1" senior flex graphite with standard lie angle. This may be correct for my swing speed and my dimensions etc, but it's not correct when viewing the golfer as a whole, i.e. a +1" 9 iron is still too short for me to be comfortable. Getting out playing the game once a week is my priority, not getting a low handicap or shooting great scores, playing 18 would be like winning the lotto after the years of pain and sleepless nights I enduring before the final sacroiliac joint fusion surgery. In the worst nights of pain, after being poked and prodded like a lab rat, when at times I felt like giving in and felt like accepting the Oxy the doctors prescribed me (which thankfully i never did), what kept me going was the pure determination that I would walk pain free again, that I would swim again and that I would golf again and I wouldn't stop until relentlessly trying, pushing doctors to think outside the box, until eventually after years the sacroiliac joint surgery gave me my life back. Therefore the likes of +3" really interests me as this sounds like just what i need. Really appreciate any info from you (thanks if you had had the patience to read this far!!!)

Do you find you get a lot more club head speed?

Tommy Fleetwood grips down in on all of his clubs about inch, if you have a look. But good point, its just to do with you height and angel of impact on the golf ball.

@@chriswilkins222 www.golfwrx.com/640380/tommy-fleetwood-witb-2020-masters/ ... I was surprised even the 3w by 1/2 inch & 5 wood 3/4inch ,1 1/4 compared to some 5woods now 42.5

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You should.

@@fredmarks6949 i think i might just. I've only just been gaming cobra cb /mb since July but it may well be worth looking into the forged tec irons one length.

I gamed the Sterling one length irons and was fitted for them and I had one hell of a time with the 8-SW irons, no matter what lie angle they were bent to, I still pulled all shots left by 10-30 yards, and the shorter long irons were a bit shorter distance than my standard length irons I normally played. I was really consistent with the 7-4 irons , but struggled with the short irons, I played them one season and went back to my old standard length irons. Not saying they are bad for anyone, as one of my playing partners actually went and bought the Cobra one length ( after hitting my Sterlings ) and he improved his game and still plays them after 3 seasons!

@@darrell3118 i have a bit of lateral movement on my short irons . Always done it, but recently I've had a few lessons and I'm not doing it anywhere near as much but it's when I get to the 7 iron i don't do it at all. Probably be a good thing for me.

Yeah it would Kevo, I may have to steal jigs clubs lol

Good man 🤘🏼🔥⛳️

Lengthening 1.5" means your 9-iron lie angle should now be the same as your 6-iron was before. You need to adjust them approx 1.5 degrees flatter.

How has this been for you since you lengthened your irons? I’m also 6”3 but playing with regular length shafts on my irons and thinking about getting the shafts extended

​@@morgandunn9335 Its far better than the original length, iv become much more consistent on all irons. As the above comment mentioned though with lie angle being off my 9 iron does go similar distance to my friends 7/8 when I compare, but I don't find it an issue as I have 56+52 degree wedges and I never got used to the irons at regular as they were new when I lengthened them.

@@stres7288 did you lengthen your wedges?

Couldn’t agree more

Great minds think alike. So if you get more spin from the short irons I'd would equate that the long irons in the one length would have less spin so go further or just as far as a normal length long iron, but because of the length would be easier to control even with reduced spin. And the one ball position would surely help consistency.

Gapping on the longer clubs is an issue with single length irons. Same length, stronger lofts, same swing speed (because the clubs are all the same length) results in lower flight with clubs above 6 iron (i.e. 5, 4) with the same ball speed as the 7. Do the math; you'll find that the longer irons don't carry much further, if at all, and the difference is runout because of the launch angle and lower spin. To make them work, you need to cultivate a much faster swing speed, which may or may not be in your particular tank.

@@boydgrandy5769 it certainly is in my tank! I love hitting the ball hard when I have to. My mate says I'm scary long when i have to be. That's good info about the longer irons. I play really windy conditions on my home course so lower spin might be good. I've already considered 4,5&6 iron skipping the 5 iron and having stronger loft on the 4 iron so i can play extra wedge plus carry my 2 iron and hybrid.

Yes mate torn between one and a GC4.

@@JamesRobinsonGolf I'm liking GCQ more lately over trackman, seems the spin numbers can be more accurate on some occasions. I've been following you a good while now but I genuinely believe your channel will benefit in the long term from a good launch monitor as tests will have more weight in them such as txg for example . Also with club head data you could do videos with getting rid of the fore left 😂

No mate it surprised me too

Did you get longer clubs? I'm coming back to golf after discectomy and fusion surgeries and I'm thinking of longer clubs as I'm comfortable bent over a 3 iron but not a 7 for example

Absolutely does buddy

Cheers buddy

Yes mate

That’s not very nice mate

@@JamesRobinsonGolf sorry mate just looked like you had a big breakfast 😂 😂 😂

Strange thing to point out in all honesty mate. Hope you enjoyed the video.

@@JamesRobinsonGolf sorry didn't mean to offend was meant to be light headed sorry again. Yes love all your content watch everyday

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Hey Andrew thanks buddy! I’ve not changed anything? Always post at 13:00 uk time? I wonder if daylight saving has done us over! I’ll look into it buddy

Not too bad buddy why’s that?

It must just be me then. I'm in the minority. Sorry. To me, your friend sounds a bit condescending. I feel bad even saying this.

@@jplowedge4255 thats cool mate. Everyone’s different.

It would adjust the spin axis mate so yeah potentially would give more spin and control

Depends what guys are looking for Vishal...

Haha

Pretty much lol

@@JamesRobinsonGolf So on a wet/windy Saturday with the Courses closed I guess I'm not the only United fan waiting for the game to start at 8

The lie would only effect spin axis. The shaft weight probably had an effect but the spin will be down to the excess club speed

Suggest basketball 😂 Jokes aside, presumably you have long arms aswell, so measure your wrist to ground distance. There are useful charts to indicate what shaft length you should have based upon your wrist to ground length. Critical to note that this is just an indicator, you absolutely need club fitting

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I don’t understand how you can’t hear it mate? Appreciate the feedback but I have no problem hearing him in the edit?

Btw... new mics ordered 😂😂😂

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Haha

No mate. Lofts and weighting are optimised for one length clubs

Hahahhaa wheyyyyy

Bandit Baker would you have to choke down on it😂😂

@@roberthampton6438 Good question....I suppose it depends on the Hole I'm "shooting" into! 😜

@@roberthampton6438 but at my age to be honest I need all the length I can get.........and an extra stiff shaft would definitely help👴

To be honest mate I usually just leave them in lol

@@JamesRobinsonGolf damn u actually make that little mistakes. Impressive

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They aren’t trashy like that. More clicks doesn’t always equal better. I would not have watched it with a title like you describe.

@@brett7011 It was just a bit of a joke between me and James. We know each other and I know he's not trashy.

Yeah I agree, but tweaking loft would move away from the shaft length argument wouldn’t it? Definitely a lighter shaft would have helped

@@JamesRobinsonGolf I agree, if you just want to add length to a club and not change everything else to dial in your launch and spin that is a recipe for disaster as you proved in this video. But my guess is if you manipulate loft and keep the extra length your can drop your spin to around 9500 and have a functional PW. either way I don't think people should do it based on dispersion issues. keep up the good work

Wheyyyy 😂

😂😂😂 when did Rick do this video buddy?

Also I think his last name is Shiels mate. 😂

@@JamesRobinsonGolf copy cat every day ffs

@@bytpranks8089 😂😂😂 your point would be valid if Rick did this video buddy... but hey. At least you can spell my name right.

@@JamesRobinsonGolf he did a video in week before the masters u goat

No worries buddy, often we make them the same day as products are under embargo. I guess there’s only so much content to go around. Also in fairness I haven’t seen Rick do a video on wedge shaft lengths? Unless you can point me to it? If your referring to just shaft length... it’s a hot topic in the golf world. Not just on KZfaq 🤘🏼⛳️

@@JamesRobinsonGolf awesome thanks

If you think this is clickbait I don’t know how to help you Martin... it’s a simple question?

@@JamesRobinsonGolf Hi James, thanks for responding. I hope you're well in these dire times. :) What I ment, more specific, was that you have created a general feeling, about your video titles, that has made me distrust the content that I'm about too see when I click your uploads. That feeling has made less compelled to watch your creations. Hope that clears it up. If I feel this way, others might have the same perception and the outcome could be less clicks, subscribers and view time. This might not be the case of course but I'm sharing my thoughts and you can do what you will with them. Regards Martin

@@Warp33 Thankyou for sharing your thoughts Martin. I always appreciate feedback and wonder what has sparked your comment in this video, as you said... tough times... I’m fine, I hope your having a good weekend. 👍🏼

This is the most unclickbaity title possible Does longer clubs mean more distance and the video is James using a longer club to see if it goes further 😂

@@JamesRobinsonGolf Here is the morning routine here in Texas. 1. wake up. 2. make coffee. 3. stagger over to the computer, kicking putting balls out of the way. 4. watch James Robinson Golf, which is THE most trusted, sincere golf content on KZfaq. Martin dearest, i'm concerned that you over-complicate the smallest of things. I would suggest a good recipe for Texas BBQ, a nap, and whatever you do.........relax.

Mate... watch the video...

@@JamesRobinsonGolf the point being James is the spin numbers and everything else is irrelevant when the lie is so far out, how is it even a comparison. Shouldn’t allow comments if you only ever want positives, negative comments can be positives if you use them correctly 😉

I didn’t see this as a negative comment buddy? Unless that’s what you want it to be? Also just so your aware. Upright lie angle will produce more loft. Not less. I assume youve been done by autospell. But hey. We’re always learning aren’t we. 👍🏼

@UCtNpbO2MtsVY4qW23WfnxGg yes mentioned but still pointless comparing the two surely, do the same with adjustments made to lie and bingo you have a true comparison 👍

@@Andrew-ds9ms why is it pointless? Take into account spin axis which we did. And there’s no problem surely? Assuming we know what the lie angle does to the flight.