Vernon improved himself during the past years and that's what i'm proud of. His rap wasn't as good as others but he tried and now he is a famous man.

Vernon must have felt so uncomfortable I'm crying T.T

Vernon said he regretted going on SMTM because he thought SVT's name got known in a negative way and felt so sorry to the members for being greedy, which is so sad. It's still an experience which is good to go through and I think thanks to the program he was able to realize more about his rap and improve himself, working hard towards today's Vernon ;w;

He did it for seventeen

I’m proud of vernon, he’s gotten so much better as a rapper.

Now he is more famous than anyone here 😝

Honestly why did pledis even let him go on. But the past is the past, look at him now.

Why i love this survival is the judges was fair, they doesn't care about idol rapper or underground rapper, this is pure competition to show rap skills. This competition can show us idol rapper can break the stereotypes too.

I never heard Vernon say that during the interviews after all the hates he gained. That's what you call idol bruh.

LOOK WHO HAD THE LAST LAUGH? Yes, it’s our Nonie.

I like seventeen but man... Vernon's rap was mostly off the beat and his rap-sing part... "I'm zoning out~" was off pitch as well... And Andup really has a point... According to Vernon himself he just came there to promote his team and to have fun... Which would naturally offend someone who treats this show as their dream🤷‍♀️

awww poor baby was so innocent

Vernon...so proud of you...Look at you now. ❤️ Still making music and rocking the rap-hip-hop world.

Why are you guys mad at the judges? They were right. This wasn’t great and Vernon probably should have been eliminated. But NOW he’s improved a lot. NOW he’s a great rapper. You guys don’t have to pretend he was amazing just because you stan him 😂

andup hate idol sm but didnt he know infront of him was an idol too? j-park(ex-2pm), zico (blockb).. n mybe bcoz verbal jint has watched Seventeen debut project n judged them so he knew Vernon's potential in hip hop.. anw, glad Seventeen is wellknown today n their hiphop songs in mixtape are more sharper than some rapper here (seventeen never release any hiphop song mixtape which contain a lot of diss coz their released songs are for carat n people who love music n diss song only for haters

Vernon has improved so much. But back then, i'm agree with the rapper who talk about vernon. Vernon is a little bit too much i think. But i can understand that he still young and have a cool badass concept for his rap. And rapper have a prejudice that idol are bad so it just because a mindset they have. (Sorry for my bad english)

I know it's been years but Andup isn't totally wrong tho lol. Vernon's rap but isn't really suited for smtm, it's very much like a typical IDOL RAP. It's a good thing seeing him improve his rap skill now tho. But anyone hating andup for being straightforward can't clearly see the point here. Even the producers are wondering how did he managed to pass that round. No hate on him.

Vernon has improved so much ever since he joined SEVENTEEN

But look at it now. Vernon is more famous than all them now PERIODTTTTT

I didn't know they have such a stigma around the term, 'Idol'. I think I know why now. Rappers like to portray a persona that is always Gangsta/Savage, and they probably thought that Vernon as an idol coming on here was not serious about rapping, just cause Vernon said he came on the show to have fun. But that's such a gatekeeping way of thinking. You can be a Kpop Idol, have fun rapping and still equally take rapping as a serious form of art. They just didn't open their minds to that being a possibility, which caused Vernon to get such a backlash. So they cope by saying that, YOU CANNOT HAVE FUN WHEN YOU RAP, THIS IS SERIOUS ART!'. Like Come on, artists don't have to be miserable to die for the craft to be respected or taken seriously.

Ngl, even me as a person who doesn't listen to rap that much, thinks vernon's rap here is bad. But isn't he only 17 then? At that age a kid has to work hard preparing to have his debut which he's been waiting for yearS and practices rap for the show at the same time? sorry i think even the greatest soldier cannot do that. i can see his only purpose to participate the show is to get svt's debut known more (so endearing) and about the thing for fun, lol pledis must have succeeded in convincing him. anw, you can see he really regrets doing this so much. He is a good kid, always thinks for his group, i'm glad he is where he is today.

I think his name is not andup i think its ENDUP "END UP"😂😂😂

WHY PPL HERE ARE LIKE THIS IS THIS REALLY THE CONCEPT LIKE BE SAVAGE AF AND BRING OTHER PPL DOWN IM SO SORRY BUT THIS JUST TOO MUCH😭

I love Tablo's comments!

I'll admit this is cringe. and I also admit Hansol is just effortlessly handsome and no one in the room can do anything about it. but how old is this Andup guy trying to take on a kid who's voice isn't fully developed yet. no wonder scoups didn't let this slide

I would rather pick a guy who's trying his best to be the best but has the calm and kindest heart than someone with talent but arrogant. Vernon dream is to be a singer not to be a rapper. When he auditioned in pledis he is trained to be a vocalist during the process he change and wants to be a rapper. And while in the show his preparing for SEVENTEEN debut. He is not a born to be a rapper kid. He is nurture. He strive to be the best he could be. I like his perseverance and dedication. I don't like how people in the comment section think Andup gesture is right when it's an act of bullying. I can't count how many times he verbally harasses vernon that even hoshi and seungcheol hate Andup. Tablo once said to Andup, "worry more about developing his own talent in order to win against the idols rather than harboring hostility towards them." Vernon has a talent, it's a work on progress and now he can finally show it of. 😊

The thing is, people will do what they need to make it in life and for every person that’s gonna come with their own goals, limitations, and passion..its true that luck plays a part, but riding that wave depends on how hard and how SMART you’d work for it..it clearly has worked for some contestants of REALITY TV idol or not

I KEEP COMING BACK TO ZICO AND JAY PARK WANTING TO BEAT UP SAN E 😭😭

Vernon has improved so much since then and he is still better than those other rappers.

Wow, there are so many Vernon anti here hiding themselves behind the word "criticism". You can criticize his past performance but then proceeding to keep shading him on the comment section?? Just say you hate him and go, you don't have to pretend you like him. Thank you for your attention. Vernon will keep on thriving no matter what you say or do :)

why are everyone being mean to vernon that time as if he holds that pass fail button. IT WASNT HIS FAULT.. if hes not yet qualified for that show then they shouldve just eliminate him at the first place. vernon was literally just 16 that time. the other contentants literally looked back at him after that man got all pass i hate them

God, Vernon was just a kid.. you don’t think that was just a little too brutal-? He doesn’t even deserve such feedback regardless of his age or status. Maybe his rap wasn’t the greatest.. but to tear down his confidence like that? You’ve seriously got to work on yourself if that’s the way you wish to treat other people.

Vernon looks like he's about to show off his hidden power and burn the stage HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH i cnat

7:38 I always thought they would have cameras in the rooms and then just zoom on someone's face for the dramatic effect not literally being with the whole thing right in front of his face!

VernonAt that time, we did admit that the strength was not good, but what the hell was one of the judges doing? Why did you leave him to be coldly and ridiculed if you thought he was not good?

Vernon now most succesful👏😅 very humble

He already said sorry because of his behavior

This video really pissed me off

This society just works like this..You don't even know a person but you just gotta criticize him..Regardless of how much effort he's putting into..You just gotta grab that person down, you just gotta crush his confidence by your own two hands instead of encouraging him to grow more. I'm so fed up with all this stuff.. VERNON improved himself and proved to everyone who he is..We don't need some andup to say shit about Vernon..Gosh..! it's frustrating..

This experience made me vernon from seventeen now! So thanks to this he improved to “next level”!!! Amazing vernonnnnn

Maaan this makes me cringe. Still love u tho vernon.

Carats are so mad because that's how everyone reacted. SMTM is a RAP SURVIVAL SHOW, Vernon is lacking if you compare him to other rappers there. And to say that Vernon is more popular than anyone on that season of smtm then you couldn't be more wrong. Mino (Winner) and Jooheon (Monsta x) are more popular than him.

those ajusshis were just clocking out on poor vernon , he had so much potential he has improved so much, so proud of him, look at him now not just a rapper but lyricist, full time korea music copyrights association member, , equally good dancer, one of the thirteen pillars of seventeen, he must have felt so small after the show broadcast, but the members comforted him , this why i love seventeen, when scoups dissed show me the money , it felt so good in my heart.so much for hating a little boy just because he was handsome and lacked a little , do better guys

I'm proud to say as a carat that he improved a lotttttt👏👏

Vernon got a good grownup and we are so proud of you.

I love Vernon and seventeen but Jesus that was a mess and I really don’t know why he passed. But I know now he has improved so much and works so hard and is extremely successful. In my opinion, tho his rap has improved so much I think he is much better as a overall performer then a rapper. Because his rap and vocals are around average for idols but his dance and stage presence is no joke. Which is why I think he is better as a overall performer then a Individual rapper even now. Vernon keep going your doing amazing💕

idc but that andup guy sounds very arrogant to me, if u didn’t like his rap keep it to urself, and also stop bringing down idol rappers

I feel like people should realize the people don’t just become great you have stepping stones back at this time period he was not the best but he learned grew and became amazing you have to work hard and that was what he did he worked and became the great person he is in 2023

I already smell some ppl here are regretting for laughing at Vernon . Accept it or not,he is one of the best rapper of this gen, and his style is more unique

Why do they treat Vernon so rudee😞🥺

Aww, I feel bad, I thought he just auditioned in front of judges not in front of other rappers. That must've been really embarrassing :(

Vernon💕

I really don't get why the guy kept throwing shade but then again I don't understand rap that well but imagine if they meet in the near future ooof the other guy would be attack by carats

3:57 wait that’s mino on the right ahahaha

just for experience .. look now he's young rich famous.. and more important still humble..

Vernon was soooo bad, how did he even pass in the first place

Now vernon is succesfull than most of people in this comment section🔥

Our vernonniee

tablo’s sunnies make me laugh

Vernon is still savage in american way

And where is this Andup guy now? 🤣🤣 Don't get me wrong I'm a casual listener of k hip hop as well but I'm mostly into h1gher, aomg and others like Bloo, Nafla etc etc

Sorry but insult a whole room of people is not rapping. Maybe this is like the Korean adapted version of rapping but in America the second dude sucked. All he did was just insult people and they thought that was so cool. Vernon followed Drake's style of rapping when he rapped on Drake's beat. And also can we talk about some of their hairstyles because OO CHILE no no no. Just no.

To me every Korean rap sounds the same so I have no idea where it went wrong

vernon was a trainwreck I'll admit but that dude is nasty for straight up hating on vernon without considering the struggles he mustve gone through too. It looks like xenophobia in disguise to me. s.korea is known for bullying halfies so we can never say. He also assumed vernon isn't interested in "hip-hop" right away. Vernon didn't went there to win, just wanted to put his group's name out there, PLEDIS was broke af dat time. That guy has no empathy or whatever. Hope he's doing well with that kinda mentality. While vernon is part of the "Hip-hop" unit, doing wat he love, producing music, performing with jooheon himself.

For those people who are smiling to Vernon NOW HE'S A WORLDWIDE FAMOUS RAPPER ! you guys are just nothing -

LMAOOOOOO😭😂😂

oh gosh, u came this far judging my boy So hear the song he made now, and hear the song Seventeen made for u lifeless ppl who criticized vernon here

We Love You Vernon

my vernon is more more more famous than you😝🤗

But look at vernon now he is one of the famous rapper not even a singer but also a grreat songwritter and composer.

I love you Vernon but I'm sorry that was bad and I was cringy and felt uncomfortable the whole time (maybe bcause I'm a carat 🙈😁). But so glad you have improved and keep improving ❤️ fightinggg!!

Awwww vernon 🥺

Stream Vernon's Band Boy kzfaq.info/get/bejne/admbituj2NPZcnk.html

I felt bad again watching Vernon, the reaction of some participants was so rude, Vernon is only 17 yes his rap was totally bad but those smirks and glare of them was too much, I know that was one of the hiphop swag but its too much as if they're too perfect.

Andup cup have a worst attitude that is a big no no for being a idol.

In the end And Up respect Zico and Mino, he acknowledge their skill. He was on Zico and Paloalto team. Btw I love vernon but I agree with Zico his skill not good enough at that time, we know now he workhard after this and become great rapper, respect. And I hate San-E it's look like he pass Vernon to cause something. And smtm 4 was ruined because of san-e and reverse jint . . . edit : Just found out Andup and Zico already know each other lmao, they collab at 2011. but Zico being Zico pretending didn't know each other haha, he did that too with woodz in produce 101

idk why i laughed at his rap im sorry, but the insults were 🤮 but like he's gotten better now i suddenly want wonwoo on smtm🤭

Verno anh làm tốt quá ii

this endup guy,honey if i was there i'd literally cut u. *no one hurt my baby* anyway,love u hansol

Insecure people.

vernon was clearly lacking the way he started off was v cringe let's get over this

2:47 기가 차서 웃는 비와이 ㅋㅋㅋ

5:54 well said man

If u don't know how to appreciate other hardwork ,u better know how to not judge.😉 My boy Vernon u did great but there is a line " getting flop is also a way of success " because this things make u stronger to face people, so carats like Vernon, slipping on the ground is good, but not getting back from it that's bad. Horanghae!!! 🐯

Vernon is popular

lmfao

2:47 hey andup stop laughing,Run Get a autograph from Vernon

Andup has only 71 subcriber awts

Why do they dont like vernon's rap? He already tried his best.. Ugh

I know this was years ago but I'm just so annoye. Vernon's rap isn't actually that good but that andup is so full of himself

4:32

Vernon

to the 4:40 failure , see now who is eliminated. I even don't know who the f*ck are you , but i know who is Vernon. I think now you can see who was eliminated Probably You !!!

He has a point tho

Andup ❤️

J

2:47 다음시즌 우승자 비와이가 비웃음 ㅋㅋ

go andup

I wish if BTS rapline went on this program, they would have ended everyone there. 😂😂 RM and Suga(AgustD) will be enough to roast all these rappers. RM is Korean Nas and Suga is Korean Eminem, but the only difference is that they talk about real stuff rather than sex, drugs or female body. Real Winner : Cypher Pt. 1,2,3,4 ended kpop and k-hiphop kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZsyfarBeqeDToIU.html : Cypher Pt. 2

버논은 시바 랩하라니까 뭐하냐 ㅋㅋ