Showdown: 2022 Aprilia Tuareg 660 vs Yamaha Ténéré 700

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On paper, the Ténéré and Tuareg look to be toe-to-toe competitors. What we found over 2,000 miles of pavement and dirt was that while they are indeed close, they serve up the experience in entirely different ways.
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00:00 - Intro
2:48 - Day 1 - Buffalo Chip Sturgis, SD to Elk Mountain, WY
7:14 - Day 2 - Elk Mountain, WY to Centennial, WY
12:45 - Day 3 - Centennial, WY to Evanston, WY
16:25 - Day 4 - Evanston, WY to Kamas, UT
21:38 - Mid-trip discussion
27:24 - Day 5 - Kamas, UT to Cedar City, UT
30:28 - Day 6 - Cedar City, UT to Los Angeles, CA
30:58 - Picking the winner
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@turbolag5107
@turbolag5107 Жыл бұрын
Oh and for the people out there that own the Aprilia go to the dealership and get your ECU updated it should be the update 106. It makes the bike feel much more responsive down low and gets rid of any weird engine stutter at around 4,000 RPM
@ZH2.
@ZH2. Жыл бұрын
Last week I bought a Tenere 700. I'm coming from road bikes (Tracer 900GT, naked bikes etc) and the Tenere is unbelievably good at everything. Slow speed, offroad, onroad. It's so damn easy to ride, really incredible motorcycle engineering. The lack of tech is a huge plus for reliability. And the sound of that CP2 is🔥🔥
@pedromatos5918
@pedromatos5918 Жыл бұрын
I have bought my 1 month ago...and i m in love with this yamaha t7!!! Almost all the bikes i had were gor roads...susuki gsxr6 ..yamaha r6...only off road was a hondaxr6 some years ago.... this T7 is so good on the roads and gives you so much liberty!! Keep safe!!
@fleshpie2129
@fleshpie2129 9 ай бұрын
do not lie to yourself, tuareg is much better in every way
@ChrisSauer-oe5ve
@ChrisSauer-oe5ve 3 ай бұрын
@@fleshpie2129🤣🤣
@bonkurwengler6339
@bonkurwengler6339 Жыл бұрын
Both bikes are exactly what I was looking for in downsizing from a 600+ lb Triumph Tiger. The electronics package was the decider for me. Reliability was not an issue to me as my last Aprilia was stellar after 20K+ miles (though it did have a Rotax engine..) . What will be a decider for many riders is the dealer network. I',m lucky enough to have 4-5 dealers within 100 miles. Most folks, not so much.... I've had my Tuareg for 3 months now and I absolutely LOVE it!
@captainamerica9353
@captainamerica9353 Жыл бұрын
Well, it's a combo of the sparse dealer network, parts availability and trouble with electronics and/or engines, I think. I live in northern WI but have 2 dealers near Minneapolis so location is not a huge deal. Some states don't even have a dealer!! I bought a Beta last year, it's great, parts are sent from California and dealers are expanding, heck I now have one only 75 miles away. I'm getting too old for an RSV but wouldn't mind a Tuono or Tuareg someday.
@Crashlewis1
@Crashlewis1 Жыл бұрын
I’m pulling the trigger on the Tuareg at the end of the month. I’m in central Oregon and thankfully a dealer just opened up in Portland about 3 hrs away. Thankfully I have a mechanic in town that specializes in European bikes so I’ll have a local lifeline. Closest triumph dealer to me is roughly the same distance but that didn’t stop me from buying my tiger explorer!
@JRHighmore
@JRHighmore 10 ай бұрын
You ever ride two up? Wondering how it handles with 2 people.
@durtkillon
@durtkillon Жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting this together, gents! Either of these bikes would put a smile on my face. It’s the sweet spot for me in ADV.
@Krutchin
@Krutchin Жыл бұрын
What a tour! Just beautiful, the bikes too... I've tested the Tuareg, so I can say it's an amazing bike. Durability - I hope it is, because it doesn't excuse the price otherwise.
@brucerossonthetube
@brucerossonthetube Жыл бұрын
Have really missed your videos as of late! I hope there are more to come.
@kaykay8686
@kaykay8686 Жыл бұрын
Great, great video! I've been watching you guys for a long time, and this one was awesome! Well done! I especially loved the input from a non-expert rider in the dirt. Getting info. from a pro is not always beneficial for the "average" rider who will never reach the level of a pro. Thanks!
@keyboarddancers7751
@keyboarddancers7751 Жыл бұрын
This is the comparison review we've all needed.
@osimnod
@osimnod Ай бұрын
Excellent ride review. Kudos to the cameraman for riding along getting great shots and drone video!
@VARider1
@VARider1 Жыл бұрын
Glad I bought the Tuareg over the Tenere. Rode the WYBDR on the 660 and it did everything it needed too; even Section 4 solo!
@robertrscott
@robertrscott Жыл бұрын
Me too, Tuareg is amazing!
@gordonshaw6231
@gordonshaw6231 Жыл бұрын
Great video, bought the aprila 2 weeks ago and loving it, it’s a slight engine stumble but I am told the ecu update corrects this. Looking forward to touring some more Javanese mountains
@Victor_Moto
@Victor_Moto Жыл бұрын
Great review! Thanks guys.
@FRv4S
@FRv4S Жыл бұрын
really well done video..good shots, good conversation, and good bikes!
@phillipbatho3213
@phillipbatho3213 Жыл бұрын
Maybe this video will steer some people toward the Aprilia, that way the ones who want a Ténéré won't have to wait so long to get one!
@dougiequick1
@dougiequick1 Жыл бұрын
Wont have to wait behind me either I hold it against Yamaha for holding back options on the 700 platform Its all their marketing ploys they do NOT want any CP2 models to have cool stuff like quick shifter and cruise control because it would screw up the psychology for upselling buyers to CP3 and higher end ...So even though it might not impact the adv line they still cant/wont give it to Tenere (same motor) while at same time claiming BS reasons it cant be had on MT07/Tracer 7/R7 They so badly want buyers to want that stuff enough they finally spring for MT09 or 10 or tracer 9gt etc ...all the models costing thousands more than CP2 powered low tier stuff Face it the Tenere is somewhat the crippled victim of being a pricepoint child deprived of premium suspension and optional cool features...I would have loved to hear the corporate infighting over that model (probably a main reason it took FOREVER to come out!)....marketing types do NOT love motorcycles (that is the engineers) they only want to sell as much whatever as possible for as much money as possible...they will fu*k anything up that gets in their way too you better believe it...those type folks tend to have pea brains and not much imagination
@phillipbatho3213
@phillipbatho3213 Жыл бұрын
@@dougiequick1 Cool story you made up in your head. Alternate take:. The CP2 is so tractable and forgiving that it doesn't need TC, or other "cool features". It's an engine that puts out power that the rear tire can handle in a very predictable way. Some people don't really want a motorcycle that just works well though, they want do-dads and "cool features". If you want premium suspension, go buy it. The stock suspension works great for the majority of riders, for whom paying for "premium" parts would be a waste. If you can't understand that not everyone wants bling to show off in the Starbucks parking lot, then go buy something else and shut up.
@dougiequick1
@dougiequick1 Жыл бұрын
@@phillipbatho3213 wow its like I said something about your wife and kids lol....they are just motorcycles dude ...btw even the reviewers gigged the T7 for lacking the electronics...ANYONE would appreciate cruise control and really there I see no reason not to OFFER things as extras...a cheaper base models for guys that hate technology or lack extra money and then option packages for everyone else...I just think Yamaha loses a ton of sales to other manufacturers like KTM who's 890 kicks butt on Tenere in most areas...but hey you love it so good on you
@phillipbatho3213
@phillipbatho3213 Жыл бұрын
@@dougiequick1 ”I hold it against Yamaha for holding back options..." Followed by 200+ word diatribe. Followed by "they're just motorcycles dude ". 🙄 Sorry, I didn't know only you should voice your opinion. 🤷🏼‍♂️
@Devastator123
@Devastator123 Жыл бұрын
The 660 is super legit
@prathapsingh5195
@prathapsingh5195 Жыл бұрын
Tuareg is great; i know it has plenty power even in lowe rpm.. i never stalled it once during my offroad miles similar to what you tried in this video. Its suspension is well balanced, fantastic on road and offroad.
@QueEstaPasando_YT
@QueEstaPasando_YT Жыл бұрын
Made me want to try the Tuareg now..Nice video guys!
@robertrscott
@robertrscott Жыл бұрын
Great video guys! I went with the Tuareg and have no regrets at all, great bike!
@robertrscott
@robertrscott Жыл бұрын
@@NMS.SuperDuper So far Garmin Zumo XT, OEM Aprilia Heated Grips, Oem Aprilia Quickshifter, and I'm waiting on the OEM Aprilia crash bars and fog lamps. Also there has been two dashboard updates from factory Aprilia since the bikes release in USA and they have improved the riding experience even further.
@billslicer3203
@billslicer3203 Жыл бұрын
Now that’s a comparison. Good job guys
@duncanelliott5120
@duncanelliott5120 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic film. Thanks guys
@raould2590
@raould2590 Жыл бұрын
Spectacular! Enjoyed it. Thank you for this. It's nice to see a grounded, real-world take on adventure riding and not the superhuman style go-anywhere one. Always enjoy your reviews. Entertaining and informative.
@paulvanhout9695
@paulvanhout9695 Жыл бұрын
Entertaining and well done review and ride👍
@VogtJurgen
@VogtJurgen Жыл бұрын
Great production, well done and thanks
@FRv4S
@FRv4S Жыл бұрын
Love this format. A story that has a comparison!!!
@brayvdb2191
@brayvdb2191 Жыл бұрын
Really hope Honda brings something worthy of this to the table when they reveal the Transalp
@nikos-giorgos
@nikos-giorgos Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure they won't.
@LooxJJ
@LooxJJ Жыл бұрын
Kawasaki is coming with 700cc adv soon.
@davidnobular9220
@davidnobular9220 Жыл бұрын
@@LooxJJ If the 2022 KLR weighs around 220kg (depending on spec), then will this new bike weigh over 250kg, keeping the Land Whale tradition alive ?
@LooxJJ
@LooxJJ Жыл бұрын
@@davidnobular9220 I find 220~250kg about appropriate for ADV bikes...if it is for dual-purpose, I agree that it should be lighter. But having those weight gives a good stability in long range rides (with big fuel tank, oversized frames, and heavier trans for reliability). For adv bikes, weight really dont matter as long as its 250kg~ish...what matters more is reliability (in my opinion!!)
@davidnobular9220
@davidnobular9220 Жыл бұрын
@@LooxJJ Ideally for me, I'd like to see a 750 twin that is relatively light, say 190-200kg dry, decent suspension, 24cm+ and a decent range. Oh, and before people say KTM.....I want it to specifically be Japanese, with minimal Nanny State electronics. As you say, reliability is important. A man can dream, a man can dream.....
@davidpearce859
@davidpearce859 Жыл бұрын
You guys always do a great real world yet in-depth review so thanks again. I know that the Norden 901 exists in the next category up but I would love to see a similar real world comparo between it and the “winner” of this comparo as these two bikes are on top of my short list. Cheers from down under! Dave
@sverremoe4087
@sverremoe4087 Жыл бұрын
Duke 890 adventure is the best...
@davidpearce859
@davidpearce859 Жыл бұрын
@@sverremoe4087 Thanks for your opinion Sverra.
@erocnw1341
@erocnw1341 Жыл бұрын
Surprising outcome given the T7 is such the it bike of the moment. A 2000 mile trip through all types of terrain with an expert and beginner rider is a great way to thoroughly test these bikes.
@moza1080
@moza1080 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant trip really enjoyed :)
@patricksandeberg8184
@patricksandeberg8184 Жыл бұрын
Sturgis ➡️ LA! Now that’s an off-road adventure!
@davidmallia628
@davidmallia628 Жыл бұрын
Much awaited comparison!
@boomcity4942
@boomcity4942 3 ай бұрын
That was a great review. I like that you spoke english and I didn’t have to do metric conversions. Having two opinions from two people with different levels age groups is valuable. My biggest concern before watching was about the heat from the Tuareg and you covered that well. I live in cooler climate and am 66 years old, so the heat from the Tuareg will feel good on my feet. I grew up in Phoenix, Az and worked many hours on hot roofs in the middle of the summer, so I should feel at home on the Tuareg. Thanks for the great review. I didn’t hear any swearing, it sounded more like whining.
@robertosanchez4021
@robertosanchez4021 Жыл бұрын
Great review guys..., Thanks
@lazy-pilot
@lazy-pilot Жыл бұрын
Spoiler Alert… Not surprised you both chose the Tuareg. I’ve also ridden both and I made the same decision and now own a Tuareg. I’ve been stacking up off-road miles with most of my on-road miles on mountain pass twisties and I am completely satisfied with the performance of the Tuareg. I can confirm that elimination of the catalytic converter with the full aftermarket exhaust completely resolves the “heat bubble” issue being discussed. Replacing the header alone would have resolved the issue but I went with a full Arrow exhaust with the Sonora model muffler and it’s just a beautiful sounding machine. I’ve pushed it hard off-road on day trips, and I’ve put both tires into the air regularly; when you start to push the suspensions really hard is where the Tuareg really pulls away from the Tenere. I bottomed out Tenere numerous times and I can’t seem to find the bottom on the Tuareg, it’s so forgiving and smooth and there’s way more adjustability to fine tune it to the rider. The slipper clutch really makes the Tuareg friendly in slow technical and much easier to manage if you have to get rolling again after an unplanned pause down technical terrain. Very happy with my Aprilia. I’ll be doing the expert sections of the WYBDR myself in about 30 days.
@mikegregas5484
@mikegregas5484 Жыл бұрын
I also have the taureg and will be heading to Wyoming in two weeks maybe hook up?
@jasonscott5043
@jasonscott5043 Жыл бұрын
Go ahead and get a garmin inreach too. You’ll need it in a year or two.
@matthew3136
@matthew3136 Жыл бұрын
I think a Tenere update will come along with maybe a new Honda offering. Luckily I have time to play on my 300 Rally a while before I go for a bigger bike. The Tuareg is a great bike and I hope it sells well. That’s what we all need to get other manufacturers to innovate.
@sanatandharma4435
@sanatandharma4435 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful presentation gentlemen! Both great bikes, but I also would take the taureg!
@mcconaloguecharlie1
@mcconaloguecharlie1 Жыл бұрын
Class video really enjoyed it
@MeerkatADV
@MeerkatADV Жыл бұрын
The reserve on the Tenere is 1.1 gallons. I was actually only a couple days behind you guys. Ended up getting chased by weather most of the route.
@kor2112
@kor2112 Жыл бұрын
I was in Centennial a few weeks ago, my uncle has a ranch there. I didn’t have my bike, we where fly fishing mostly. But I am planning on going there next summer to hit some of the BDR.
@easybutton333333
@easybutton333333 Жыл бұрын
I ride a Tenere and thought you all did an excellent and fair analysis of both bikes. THANKS!! If Apriullia can put more bikes in showrooms than Yamaha I believe they will sell extremely well:):)
@nokneedownian8521
@nokneedownian8521 Жыл бұрын
What an amazing trip and what an amazing country America is
@bretthawton
@bretthawton Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the contrast in rider skills for the off road sections since I'm looking at transitioning to a lightweight adventure bike.
@domenik8339
@domenik8339 Жыл бұрын
pssst check out the Honda Cb500x. Everybody forgets about it, and it's not for everyone, but it really is a mini africa twin.
@bretthawton
@bretthawton Жыл бұрын
@@domenik8339 it's definitely not a mini African Twin. It's a heavy street bike with limited ground clearance and minimal suspension travel.
@domenik8339
@domenik8339 Жыл бұрын
@@bretthawton It weighs 30 lbs more than these two bikes you're researching. . . . well trying to research anyway.
@RollinwithRoland
@RollinwithRoland Жыл бұрын
Incredible scenery and content with an interesting decision at the end!!! "Get On ADV Fest" was ok, believe I enjoyed the 5,318.5 mile round-trip on my KTM 790 Adventure S from Naples, FL over 11 days a bit more than the actual event(2,253ish miles to the Buffalo Chip Gate in 2 Ironbutt Days). Though with the KTM leaking oil, I didn't want to ride off-road in such beautifully unspoiled areas... Maybe next year!
@kevincrockett5155
@kevincrockett5155 Жыл бұрын
Leaking oil from where?
@RollinwithRoland
@RollinwithRoland Жыл бұрын
@@kevincrockett5155 from the main oil filter cap because WMR Performance in Stuart did not replace my O-rings with new ones after servicing my bike... After swinging by Apex in Colorado Springs on the way home and having them service the bike with new O-rings and oil, it did not leak a drop since then.
@doublex632
@doublex632 Жыл бұрын
The o-rings I think are too thin, same on my KTM450, was leaking. I took the oring and replaced it with slightly bigger one, no more leaks.
@hock4540
@hock4540 Жыл бұрын
Great video that shows the spectrum of riding abilities off road, more than a bike review. The best thing for new "off road" riders is to get a lightweight dual sport or dirt bike and learn to trust the bike at speed.. Going slow kills momentum and now you are into clutching, feathering the throttle, trying to balance and put your foot down, etc, etc. Give it some gas, let it roll, stay on the pegs, let the tires and suspension soak up the bumps and stop trying to fight the bike. Being on a small bike helps with this as you don't fear breaking things and less power and weight to control starting. Once you can speed through the woods on a dirt bike, you are ready for a road bike or ADV bike to do both. Times 10 if you are older than 40 as everything gets harder, I know. These videos always look amazing, but off road is work, less if you know how to ride it properly.
@hailwood900
@hailwood900 10 ай бұрын
@hock4540 Great comment. At 62 yrs old, lifetime of bikes, but limited in dirt. Learned on a KLX300R, (awesome in the woods), DR650 (all the mods but still too heavy for trails) and now 350 EXCF (absolutely stupendous for tight trails.). The biggest improvement I've make in technique was when my son the off-road racer taught me how to modulate the clutch. It's not a car. Slipping it is normal... Stalling a bike is a clue that you need to practice this technique. That plus standing up most of the time. Ok, now I want to do BDR's, and the 350 is no highway machine. A 450 pound bike, prior to luggage is pretty heavy. I wish for the 375/400 pound machine. Why is this not possible? If a dirt bike is 250, there seems like pretty of budget to make an adventure bike with 125 extra pounds. Yes, I know the 690, but not sure about highway... Still no perfect bike!
@brianmartindale2221
@brianmartindale2221 Ай бұрын
Excellent review
@sverremoe4087
@sverremoe4087 Жыл бұрын
Good review 👍👍
@dragoclarke9497
@dragoclarke9497 Жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks.
@MichaelShaw206
@MichaelShaw206 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the comparison and the points of view between two riders with different skill levels. I went with the Tuareg 660 and really enjoy it. Having had to change tire tubes, having tubeless wheels is a blessing. They say luxuries soon become necessities and the cruise control is that for me. I've done the Washington BDR on a Yamaha WR250R but had to truck the bike to the start and finish. Both the T7 and the Tuareg allow you to ride away from your driveway for the few hours of highway to get to the trail. I'll be doing parts of the BDR again in September and enjoy the flexibility of the middle-weight adventure bike versus a lighter (which is great on the technical stuff) but uncomfortable dual-sport. I'd be tempted by the World Raid T7 but I doubt I'll ever see one at a dealer anytime soon. Keeping my fingers crossed that the Aprilia holds up as I was a real Yamaha fanboy, yet as an old guy, the Tuareg is a better package for me. If it leaves me stranded .....
@gavinmiller1998
@gavinmiller1998 Жыл бұрын
Well, has it left you stranded yet? As someone with an MT07 I’m hard pressed to upgrade to the “same bike” and I really want cruise control lol
@MichaelShaw206
@MichaelShaw206 Жыл бұрын
@@gavinmiller1998 Not yet! Really enjoy the cruise control. But, I'm having a change of heart about the middle-weight versus the lighter bike. Perhaps, I'm just looking for justification to buy another bike, which is likely true.
@gavinmiller1998
@gavinmiller1998 Жыл бұрын
@@MichaelShaw206 leaning more towards like a 390 adventure? My friends and I all took our street bikes (MT-07, FZ-09,CBR650f) and tore down some state park roads and trails and it was a blast, just trying to gauge the best bike to really go after it is, but not of the small bikes five you cruise control
@andrewtreloar7389
@andrewtreloar7389 Жыл бұрын
Michael, 2 months on, any issues with the Aprilia?
@MichaelShaw206
@MichaelShaw206 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewtreloar7389 None, but I have decided to sell it. Amazing bike, but I prefer my lighter CRF450L for offroad and about town.
@Omid-on-Life
@Omid-on-Life Күн бұрын
Thank you so much for your honest review of these two great bikes.
@danwarren8010
@danwarren8010 Жыл бұрын
I've averaged 60mpg over the last 3000 miles of mixed riding on my Tenere. Love my bike, Oh and after a 9 month wait on back order the only color the one bike that came in was Raven Black, So glad it wasn't purple.
@teags603
@teags603 Жыл бұрын
I had a deposit on a Tenere, and it was going to be a year before I could get one. Ended up pulling the deposit and picked up a Tuareg and I don't regret it one bit! The Tuareg has been awesome both on and off road. I very highly recommend the Tuareg and am glad I picked it up.
@jasonscott5043
@jasonscott5043 Жыл бұрын
There will always be that nagging feeling though.
@billmoeller8897
@billmoeller8897 Жыл бұрын
Well done !!!
@heidicrnkovic6317
@heidicrnkovic6317 Жыл бұрын
Aprilia Tuareg 660 looks intriguing!
@rench55
@rench55 Жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison. Well done! As a primarily street rider, and wanting to get into ADV, I appreciate the points of view.
@RollinwithRoland
@RollinwithRoland Жыл бұрын
Check out some of the off-road riding coaches out there on KZfaq if you haven't already. I personally like Bret Tkacs and Chris Birch.
@krob-sn7ek
@krob-sn7ek Жыл бұрын
Just do it !!! Adv is my 70's flashback !! Too good be safe and go explore now
@christopherg9806
@christopherg9806 Жыл бұрын
Good review, guys. I'm pushing my skills to the max when I have my Super Tenere off road and a middleweight would be much easier to manage. I wouldn't have gotten the 1200 at all, but Yamaha kept delaying the 700 Tenere and I found a great deal on mine with really low mileage. It's a phenomenal bike, except that I feel really overwhelmed when the terrain gets loose and slippery.
@peterjones4621
@peterjones4621 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the very well done review. I'm going to buy an Adventure bike this or next summer and I'm just beginning my research on the several bikes out there. I wasn't surprised the Tuareg 660 won due to other reviews I've seen. I'm still not ready to make a decision but I'm getting closer as I continue with my research of all the Adventure bikes. Ducati just came out with the DesertX which has excellent review thus far but one of the big cons is the $20,000 price tag and the maintenance is expensive. Thanks again for the excellent reviews and outstanding views of your trip, it looked like a lot of fun.
@ts-cj2ym
@ts-cj2ym Ай бұрын
Got the Tuareg over Tenere. It was the tech, top heavy and the height that did it. Both great bikes!
@_Makanko_
@_Makanko_ Жыл бұрын
Great video, I really enjoyed it! Can't say I disagree with the winning choice, it makes even more sense to me considering the more prevalent asphalt roads in Western Europe and my personal off-road skill level. I'm also less bothered by concerns I've read about dealership issues, there's sufficient around. This might change as I grow in my riding and when I may decide to take longer and possibly more remote rides where "reliability" but more so nearby maintenance support becomes more important..
@motorhead.indiee
@motorhead.indiee Жыл бұрын
Even though none of these bikes are available in India right now, this was a great comparison. You don't breeze off a 35 min vlog so often. Thanks for this. P.S. if you like chalenging off-road terrains you should do an Indian episode of maybe Kaza-Manali via Chandratal. Man you will love it.
@technotv3227
@technotv3227 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, get run over by a truck coming on the wrong lane, or may be get hit by an over speeding car. Get your self, your dog and cat insured before going to India to ride. You have been warned.
@ZERODOSI
@ZERODOSI 10 ай бұрын
In India potrebbero andare in 15 su moto così! 😆
@GMan38cal
@GMan38cal Жыл бұрын
They did show the price for the blue Tuareg at $12599. That's $600 more than the standard red or yellow versions. I think they would have really raved about the Tuareg if they got a flat tire on each of the bikes. No mention of tubeless wheels on the Aprilia.
@bamills6771
@bamills6771 Жыл бұрын
Its $130 to convert the T7 wheels to Tubeless. I did it 10 months ago.. Zero Issues.
@jonr3891
@jonr3891 Жыл бұрын
@@bamills6771 Hi. Did you use a kit for your tubeless conversion, or DIY (silicone, tape etc?) I’m interested in converting my spoked Rally Raid wheels. Thx for any info.
@bamills6771
@bamills6771 Жыл бұрын
@@jonr3891 i went with the kit - off Ebay- from Japan. it only took 4 days to get. Its the same kit that woodies sold in the USA.
@jonr3891
@jonr3891 Жыл бұрын
@@bamills6771 …is it the Outex kit? Thx
@bamills6771
@bamills6771 Жыл бұрын
@@jonr3891 yes.. the trick is sanding the skoke nipples smooth so the inside of the rim is flat.
@steveelliott5643
@steveelliott5643 Жыл бұрын
good work guys
@paulvandervyver4223
@paulvandervyver4223 Жыл бұрын
Aprilia has a serious contender in the Adventure market with the new Tuareg. It surely ticks a lot of boxes. My only concern is the long-term reliability, especially with all the electronics... it is going to be tough to beat the Yamaha's legendary reliability
@mart7404
@mart7404 Жыл бұрын
great review guys. What's the name of the lake in Wyoming you camped at? I initially was hoping to buy a Tenere after riding a friends. However, no availability made me reconsider and I ended up with the Tuareg. I really love this bike. Heat is an issue but maybe in cool climes it will be nice? I'm hoping an exhaust change some day might take care of that. Now, I need to point her up from my base in Colorado to that lake in Wyoming. Cheers
@pyropunk137
@pyropunk137 Жыл бұрын
Lake Alexander. That was actually in the Uinta Wasatch NF in Utah.
@therollingpebble2138
@therollingpebble2138 Жыл бұрын
Nice countryside...curious to know what app you use to show the zoom in/out effect on the map locations....
@tbgtbg6311
@tbgtbg6311 Жыл бұрын
Yep, electronics are my first concern for adventure riding. I want as many options as possible for things to break down.
@jbb3675
@jbb3675 Жыл бұрын
They've been out for long enough that there's very little need for concern.
@vice7881
@vice7881 Жыл бұрын
even if electronics break down, the bike is still riding. so no issue at all.
@davidleonard8369
@davidleonard8369 6 ай бұрын
@@vice7881I’m guessing that you’ve never had the pleasure of trying to ride an adventure bike in sand when the traction control shits The bed and can’t be turned off. Pretty damn inconvenient when you’re motorcycle literally won’t move. Thank god for the Yamaha Tenere 7 and a tow rope.
@turbolag5107
@turbolag5107 Жыл бұрын
What's funny is I called a Yamaha dealership that also happened to be an Aprilia dealership and I originally called about the t7 but they said someone literally just put a deposit down on it an hour before I called. The guy goes have you heard of the Aprilia Tuareg and I said no and that I would check it out. I kind of chuckled a little bit and said doesn't have cruise control and he said yes and I said I was very interested. Fast forward less than a week after that conversation and I was riding one home.
@chrislovett6120
@chrislovett6120 Жыл бұрын
Great overall review, most people I’ve talked to they have owned the T7 were pretty unhappy with the suspension which seems to be the MO for Yamaha for a decade or so now.
@twowheeledadventuresuk2739
@twowheeledadventuresuk2739 Жыл бұрын
My local dealer is a Yam/Aprilia dealer, in over a year they haven't sold a single Tuareg. I went down there to look at both bikes, but i knew I was going to pick the T7 as I just love the look of it, can't stand either the front or rear lights on the Tuareg, but also there is very little after-market stuff out/available for the Aprilia to bling it into my bike. Love my T7, love the engine, it always puts a smile on my face, looks mean as with a bespoke decal kit and a few other bits - bits you ain't gonna find for the Tuareg!
@JohnSmith-ef8nr
@JohnSmith-ef8nr Жыл бұрын
In the UK the tuareg is being sold new for 9k, thats less than the price of a new T7 and thay still don't sell. There's only about 40 registered on uk roads, and I expect some are demo bikes.
@durtkillon
@durtkillon Жыл бұрын
Aprillia is an uber niche brand in the US, but the Tuareg has got the attention of fellow ADV riders here in Colorado. The dealer in my town has been selling them the same day they come in, sight unseen and over the phone. I wouldn’t say no to either bike, but you are hard pressed to get either in this area for now. People are listing T700 for $14K on craigslist. Crazy. I’m happy to see more entries in this segment. I partial to the middle weight advs.
@rjlklr650
@rjlklr650 Жыл бұрын
Positives of Tuareg, cruise control, tubeless tires, and better seat. Positives of Yamaha proven reliability and many more dealers. Negatives of Tenere lack of availability and dealers not selling at MSRP.
@speedfinder1
@speedfinder1 Жыл бұрын
I rode both on a 3 hour, each motorcycle, test day. I ordered the Tuareg due to it's more "beginner friendly power delivery" and general ease of riding. Both were awesome and the Tenere would probably have won out if my own skills were up to the challenge.
@kloppskalli
@kloppskalli Жыл бұрын
"beginner friendly power delivery" = less power ... you get used to the power very quickly. There's also bigger front sprockets that can tame the Tenere and save quite a bit fuel at highway speed
@MarkiMotoYT
@MarkiMotoYT Жыл бұрын
@@kloppskalli but the tuareg has more power..
@shanechambers9529
@shanechambers9529 Жыл бұрын
@@MarkiMotoYT and also less torque..
@redcisco8579
@redcisco8579 Жыл бұрын
​​@@shanechambers9529 the 660 has more torque. T7 has 50 ft lbs and the 660 has 52 ft lbs. The T7 builds it's torque lower in the RPM range, but the 660 is more powerful, by a very slim margin, overall in both horsepower and torque
@igioz
@igioz 8 ай бұрын
the clutch on Tuareg is sooooo smooth you can partialize every single Nm of torque, beatiful
@kostasrestas
@kostasrestas Жыл бұрын
what if we compare Tenere World Raid with Tuareg ?? what suspension is greater then ????
@bikesbabes4721
@bikesbabes4721 Жыл бұрын
I ride a T7 (from a GS1200). Im not surprised for two reasons: 1)I had to lower the bike a bit, mainly to compensate for high c.o.gravity and moved the handles closer. Combined with 20 000km, Im now perfectly at ease, but it was the first bike I ever had to change ergonomically. 2) Most people love tech. So do I, but I prefer it on my phone, so I can throw it away when it bug-erred. Tech on a bike is to introduce an unnesesary layer of complication and the most likely source of future trouble. Combined with Yamaha reliability and network, I will stick to the T7. But its great that there is competition in the market. I will trade my T7 for a T5....
@Peter-pi4zo
@Peter-pi4zo Жыл бұрын
Great video nothing more I can say. Oh yeah thanks for that 👍
@geraldmerkel7145
@geraldmerkel7145 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, what an Awesome trip! Great comparison. Beautiful scenery included in this video. Tuareg has my vote since I have an entry into the #IRODETODAY Sweepstakes 😂 I grew up from the age of 10 riding dirt, raced motocross, continued trail riding but then evolved into street machines. I have 58 years riding experience and I would like to come full circle back into the Adventure Motorsickle experience. Middleweight for sure. Thx Again.
@SmokinZen
@SmokinZen Жыл бұрын
Well wonder how the new World Raid Tenere compares but the bottom line is a Yamaha is a Yamaha and peace of mind is a big deal off-road
@taoist63
@taoist63 Жыл бұрын
Great video, nice scenic landscape, thanks for making such a good brand comparison. I vote for the Aprilia Tuareg, beautiful motorcycle. Is it possible for you to send the route? We would love to come to the US and ride it.
@brianh0000
@brianh0000 10 ай бұрын
Yes please! I particularly would like to know about those S curves in the closing scene, on top of a ridge.. love to find that
@pdrhound
@pdrhound Жыл бұрын
Sorry if you covered this.... 1. How do you like the Hornet 2? 2. how many liters of storage including the back packs did you have? 3. How much luggage weight?
@Picklerides
@Picklerides 6 ай бұрын
I was thinking of going aprilia for a while also but for me, it's the lack of dealerships close by that scares me a bit. Usually with more electronics you get restricted access to turning off the service light without taking it to the dealer and stuff like that. Having the closest dealer 3+ hours away would be quite inconvenient. We have a Yamaha dealer about 40mins away so It's kind of a no brainer for me. Touareg is a nice bike though. It apparently doesn't feel as top heavy and has a lot of options but I am a simple guy who wants a simple bike from a dealer that is close lol. Great vid and good comparison!
@YankiRides
@YankiRides Жыл бұрын
I spy a Chaseontwowheels at 2:32, along with the Pan America we had that week! The Tuareg is THE middleweight adv bike. just wish I had a dealer near us
@thomascogar8912
@thomascogar8912 Жыл бұрын
Both great bikes, and your comparison was very well done. As much as I like the Tenere, I’m not riding a purple cycle and when I saw it in person - it was a deal breaker. Maybe next year there will be better color options
@niceguyrides
@niceguyrides Жыл бұрын
They had to do something to slow sales down.
@BrendonHart1
@BrendonHart1 2 ай бұрын
Never had issues cornering the Tenere! Have so much fun in the twisties with it.......arms get sore on my GSXR1100......it is an 88 model though!
@KingCast65
@KingCast65 Жыл бұрын
Why didn't you pull the peg inserts the minute you got the bikes? I did with my Tiger 800 and I barely even go off road. I hate those things.
@deusexmachinawl
@deusexmachinawl 9 ай бұрын
Great video. Really enjoyed. Unrelated comment.. the loss of pines across the world is staggering.. so many dead tree due to the infamous insect. In `Canada some entire valleys are destroyed. However, back to the bikes.. amazing both of them. I am deciding between Tuareg, Tenere and Transalp…will see
@Rob-tl9md
@Rob-tl9md Жыл бұрын
nearly 3k on my toureg. fricken awesome bike.
@jasonscott5043
@jasonscott5043 Жыл бұрын
There was no mention of durability, maintainability and parts / service availability. Aren’t those important things to consider?
@ktg612
@ktg612 Жыл бұрын
Never been on an adventure bike. Look fun!
@richardsprings1414
@richardsprings1414 Жыл бұрын
Thinking about trading my Africa twin on the new Aprilia 660 Touareg enjoyed your content thank you for all the hard work put in
@sameermoto
@sameermoto Жыл бұрын
I did. Sold my AT and bought this today.
@mattqueen8748
@mattqueen8748 Жыл бұрын
What about riding into a head wind...did either bike have to be wrapped out to maintain hwy speeds?
@Roberta_Esposito
@Roberta_Esposito 10 ай бұрын
great vid
@ozadv
@ozadv Жыл бұрын
Spent too much time on the pretty ride and not enough detail on the bikes IMO - no mention for example of the high weight on the T7 and how the Tuareg has the tank low under the airbox. And then that they both prefer the Tuareg came as a surprise as most of the way through they gave the opposite impression. Finally, I've ridden the T7 (fantastic bike) and own the Tuareg, and there's little difference in down low torque (check comparison dynos), certainly the suggestion you cannot easily kick out the rear is nonsense.
@jayzee1968
@jayzee1968 Жыл бұрын
Amen.
@UnicornMoto
@UnicornMoto Жыл бұрын
Agreed!!
@Tom-op1pv
@Tom-op1pv Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I rode them back to back as well and half of what they said was moto journalist bullshit. No mention of the Tenere clutch cover interfering with your right boot, vague front end on the road compared to the Tuareg, POWER IS MADE ALMOST IDENTICALLY. Cruise control and other electronics are a huge selling point and they barely focused on it. It’s like they kinda made shit up to strike differences
@Tom-op1pv
@Tom-op1pv Жыл бұрын
AND Tubeliss tires. The Tuareg makes you feel things when you ride it. T7 is a fine bike but they barely touched on the real differences. Drives me fucking nuts
@tangoreal9098
@tangoreal9098 Жыл бұрын
Why would you buy a Tuareg? Great dealer support network? Parts availability? Established reputation? 14K plus bags and Bars! IMHO T7 wins!
@pgkr67
@pgkr67 Жыл бұрын
If they looked at the dynochart they made with both bikes, they would know that torque curves are close to similar. The reason the T700 feels stronger at low revs is the lower gearing compared to the Tuareg.. 15/46 and 15/42 which is close to 400 rpm differens at the same speed in same gear. I suspect the T700 to also have a heavier crank.. Funny that the front brakes feels so different. The calipers are the same 2-pot Brembo floaters… Nice review
@ChrisSauer-oe5ve
@ChrisSauer-oe5ve 3 ай бұрын
I was thinking exactly what you said, but didn’t know the gearing on each bike, easy fix on chain bikes 👍 ⚙️
@keithwhite7480
@keithwhite7480 4 ай бұрын
I've heard a lot about where each bike carries it's weight. That the tenere seems top heavy and the tuareg feels like a much smaller bike because the center of gravity is low. How did you find it?
@ShAbacked
@ShAbacked Жыл бұрын
Same price but much better equipped the Aprilia (abs, tc, cornering, ride modes, etc). T7 its all about offroad, weird that it comes with a digital cluster in 2022... and to make good use of it you need to be quite good. I went for the 890 cause Tuareg lacks some ponies I want on the road, but its a great machine and I'd have bought it if it had bigger engine
@ComfyDadShoes
@ComfyDadShoes Жыл бұрын
Even with money not being an option, I gotta take the T7. Time is more important than $ and I don’t want to waste any of it broken down somewhere.
@philipshore6924
@philipshore6924 10 ай бұрын
You didn't mention the lower down fuel tank on the Aprillia. Is that because it wasn't noticeable once loaded with gear?
@billslicer3203
@billslicer3203 Жыл бұрын
I’ve heard comments about the Tuareg putting off a Lot of heat. Since you guys went thru triple digits,what did you think?
@EvansBrasfieldMotojournalist
@EvansBrasfieldMotojournalist Жыл бұрын
The heat bothered Ryan more than me, but it was noticeable. I’ve ridden V-Twin cruisers that put out ore heat, though.
@TXLorenzo
@TXLorenzo 7 ай бұрын
The CP2 motor on the Tenere is a fantastic torque monster. You can climb a wall while idling in 1st gear.
@davidmallia628
@davidmallia628 Жыл бұрын
Agree on the verdict, but the next iteration of the Tuareg must solve the heat hotspot, and the failing gasket issue. Then, I would buy one.
@ozadv
@ozadv Жыл бұрын
If there's a failing gasket issue it must be exceedingly rare - I've not heard of it and I'm across all the forums.. heatspot is the catalytic converter and that can be resolved easily
@baklcdcvdfv3434r4
@baklcdcvdfv3434r4 Жыл бұрын
@@ozadv the gasket dosnt fail screws might not be tight enough by factory, i that rarely happens just torque the screws and wallah
@mandingojojief7627
@mandingojojief7627 Жыл бұрын
And the mapping glitch.
@Prestonesfpv
@Prestonesfpv Жыл бұрын
Well, im not into tech and electronics and i like my things simple and agricultural so i guess il keep on loving my T7 👍
@pgkr67
@pgkr67 Жыл бұрын
Well tech or not tech. Both bikes has an Ecu, and if that dies your screwed.. If Tc or Cc fails, the bike will still run.. Dont worry..
@flattopwill
@flattopwill Жыл бұрын
Good movie. You should do more like this
@HartyBiker
@HartyBiker 4 ай бұрын
I really wish the Tuareg had more availability here in Australia. It looks almost like a unicorn bike for me, but they're around $23k here (for reference, I have seen a KTM 890 Adventure R for $24,5k), and rare as rocking horse poo.
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