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The new 2025 Forester is Beautiful! Since I have had many Foresters and one Outback, I am sticking to the Forester!!!!

Toyota's hybrid system's cost performance remains remarkably strong. Subaru's upcoming hybrid will also use the Toyota system, so we're looking forward to it.

YOU NEVER TALK ABOUT THE SAFETY , SUBARU HAVE THE FIRST PLACE 🥇.

Im going to say this in every comparison. Bigger wheels is not a benefit. Higher tire cost, worse ride and lower fuel economy.

Test drove both 2024 editions and I went with the Forester 🙌

A comparison on a Saturday, we’re getting spoiled, great video!!

Enjoyed your videos. I drive a 7-8 year old Subaru Outback. I really like that it has auto-dimming rear view mirrors (optional). They make driving at night a lot better, without getting glares. This option is something that most cars in the price range don't even offer. A lot new luxury vehicles offer the feature only on drive side mirror. I think you should consider in your feature comparison. :-)

Leased a Subaru and it was be my last. 2019 Subaru Legacy with oil consumption issues. They refused to do an oil consumption test and just did free oil changes until my lease was over. The service manager literally said they are not allowed to do oil consumption test unless it’s severe. Mine was burning about a quart every two weeks. I wonder what severe was!?!?! Toyota all day. Now own a 2022 Camry Hybrid LE and it’s great.

5yr+ old design of the rav4 is still going strong..even compared to redesigned/refreshed models..that speaks volume on how good the rav4 is..

One caregory you omitted was safety. Check the IIHS ratings.

Great review. Just discovered Car Confections and I will be returning as I compare cars. Well done.

Although the Forester has a larger infotainment display, it’s arguable the usable viewable area is smaller for maps as it’s in portrait mode, and parts of the screen is permanently dedicated to HVAC controls.

You should include glove box storage along with console storage.

I don’t know but my forester pulled rav4 and crv out of snow in Minnesota in past two years.

Please make the decibel measurement during acceleration also.

Forester all day, every day.

We have both. The forester is much easier to get in and out for older less flexible people. The RAV has more power ,better fuel injection system and is more fuel efficient.

I’m very happy with my 2024 RAV4 hybrid Limited here in NZ - haven’t seen the new Forester but as a past owner of 2 Foresters, I know they’re good. Hybrid system in Rav is great - I’m averaging 5.5 L/100

Wish they could’ve compared this with the Limited RAV4 since it would also be the highest trim level.

Thanks for the great reviews! I just bought a 2024 Subaru Forester Touring, as I kind of like the features over the new 2025. Please do a sound test locally so we can get a comparison. Also, on your "sound test chart" you have a smile rating....what is the basis???

Waiting for my 2025 Forester Sport !

I like Forester. But that weird CVT acceleration bugs me. I like how the engine sounds with the classic gear switching. But when the car accelerates and the engine RPM freeze at 3000-4000 RPM it sounds like you trying to run a car on the first gear only. Weird feeling.

What do mean by dual exposed outlets on the rear of the RAV4 vs SF?

Which model is cheaper to maintain and service?

The Forester lacks the passenger shelve that the RAV4 does have and also the lack of physical knobs for the HVAC is a huge disadvantage for the Forester... *they both suck regarding approach angles...

Can you please do a comparison between Honda CRV - Touring & 2025 Forester- Touring? Thanks

Wondering if Subaru still have the TCV failure issue or changed the design yet. Heard they even avoid to honor the warranty.

I've been watching your reviews for sometime now. You guys are simply awesome! I'll go with the Subaru Forester anytime!!!

I don’t get the part why the forester gets .5 point for $500 price difference. Gas alone would save you more money in a long run + 2 free year Toyota care.

Ventilated seats only come on the highest level of the Forester as well. Won't find it on Sport, unfortunately.

Good comparison!

Forester for me.

I live in NJ, and we have had rough winters, so I would get the Forester.

Love your video 📹 ❤️ 💕 ♥️ 💗

I did not see the the comparison of the superior 4 wheel compared to Ravv 4 . What happened ?

It’s strange that you don’t have the hybrid option for the Forester, it’s the only option available in the UK.

The forester 0 to 60 is PAINFUL

Hi guys ,does the 2025 Subaru Forester come now with a redesigned the cooling system.regards

Would it be fair to do a gas model versus gas model instead of hybrid versus gas model?

Love your videos but how is comparing a Hybrid to a gas powered car equals when is comes to mpg. I feel that if this is gonna be more objective and straightforward you should leave gas mileage out of consideration for points. But I do respect your choices and do think you guys are very helpful

Until the Forester release a real Forester Hybrid this showdown goest to the Rav 4.

Wasn’t it 8.2 for both?? How did the rav-4 win? Didn’t get that one….

Looks like a ipad or tablet just glued onto the dash for the subie

I’ve never expected boxer engines to be efficient.

Subaru sound system sounds terrible with too much bass and tinny treble, and no midrange but since you used different music we don't know if it was the song's fault.

Gonna tell you one thing. I’m 6’6 and I don’t fit in a rav4 at all. As a passenger I can squeeze but my knees hit the wheel to drive so keep that in mind. I do fit everywhere in the forestor.

Forester has a CVT. The gas Rav does not. You did mention CVT? Why?

I love the Forester, but Subaru needs to improve the power train.

Forester owners loves the start stop features.

I test drove the new model rav4 when it came out and at 5'11" it felt a little cramped up front, I did think the camera in the mirror was cool though. On the other hand I've driven a newer model Forester recently and it is super roomy up front, both with head room and the distance the wind shield is away from the driver. It reminded me a lot of the 2005 Scion xB I used to own. I currently own a 2017 Outback and it feels just right.

If you want awd the lowest trim for the rav 31+ Subaru stars at 27+

Being a 6 times Subaru's owner, my next will not be Subaru anymore. Main reason is in my country, dealer are not bringing in any turbo model but all the boring and NA model. My next likely will be Hybrid and there's only 1 Hybrid king in the market and that is Toyota. Another reason is Subaru seems to ditch turbo variant. I'm not sure why there's no turbo model for Forester but they bring it back to Outback.

Wow first time ive seen a tie breaker!

So, technicaly, if forester had same power train as Rav-4, then it would be a clear winner?

How is outlander mitsubishi as compared to them??

I think I'd go for a base model mazda cx90 for 38k, need to test drive it first though and it's much bigger, lol

Love this one!!

On looks alone, the RAV4 is a zillion times better, I don't care how "old" the design is.

Для тех кто не любит вариатор ... Прочитайте про коробку xa 50 которая стоит на rav и вы будете неприятно удивлены какие проблемы с ней на 70 миль пробега. Многие на нее плюются и говорят что вариатор тойота ходит дольше чем АКПП на порядок. Те надежные 4 ступенчатые АКПП ушли в прошлое.... И это общая проблема что и dsg на Volkswagen.

Rav4 of course!i tou dont care the overheated cvt choose subaru

For the price point, Subaru > Toyota. I had the 2022 RAV4 Hybrid XSE and it felt cheap with the road noise, fake leather, cheap interior, bland sound system, and finicky rear lift gate. $40k is much better spent on the Subaru!

I just bought a 2025 Forester sport. Love it so far. Amazing interior quality, smooth ride, with low road noise.

Also take in mind what vibes your local dealership is giving out? Did they hold down prices when the Covid things was in swing? Is the service department good enough? Does the sales team feel pushy -- fast talkers? Do people buy the same car or brand again? Toyota has loyalty, but we hear of discontent about the RAV4. OK that may be common place as well. In real life safety, the RAV4 AWD is doing well, and the 2WD OK, but the Forester is pretty consistent every year as a top score with Insurance claims and does pretty good with Death Rate in Cars data, though the top pick in actually the Outback --- tops in safety. Looks wise and power to weight wise, the CrossTrek looks like a good choice? If driven on the highway and in town more, which to buy??? I looked at the Mazda CX-5 some time back, but the A pillars seemed fat to me, and/or in the wrong position for my height and seat position, perhaps, to see out properly. Do others find CX-5 sightline lacking? Otherwise -- cool car!

You are aware the Subaru is a CVT. The Subaru CVT is a 100k to 125K mile Transmission. The Rav four is a 250k to 300k transmission. The Subi trans axle is double the rebuild or replacement cost. The car can become instantly worthless at 100k miles. As long as Subaru offers ONLY CVT by their choice, I will consider them junk.

Sad how they butchered the redesign IMO. It's an Explorer clone now. The previous design was so much better. Took it off my list because of it. Just can't get over the front end.

Having a fully digital gauge cluster is absolutely NOT a benefit. How could that possibly go wrong???

Conventional engine (ICE) is better compared to Hybrid like almost all cars nowadays. Nothing to worry about if look after it and change the oil periodically without fail. Less fuel consumptions for Hybrid considered nothing if it is time for you to change batteries. Moreover service charges for repair, cost you a lot more than the conventional engine!!!

Personally I'd go with Forrester... I prefer its looks more than the softer Toyota look they've been doing for a long time, and its a bit more cramped in the driver seat from what I've experienced. I debate on going hybrid....sure you get more HP and you save on some maintance and gas, but you kind of kick the costs down the line for when the battery or e-cvt needs fixing down the line - basically looking at traditional transmission repair costs. Subaru's are pretty reliable and have better saftey and real AWD. Not a beast fort sure, but the additional maintancese and gas use does hurt it. But you will get more bang for your buck and their interest rate is way lower than Toyota's lately who don't care if you walk out the door lately.. Its a tough call and you can't go wrong with either. It comes down to preferences really

I would go with the 2025 Forester, if Subaru comes out in late 25 or 2026 using a "Toyota" Hybrid System, this will be a RAV4 killer!

So happy Subaru decided to make it look like a Ford Escape. Winner! 😅

The fact that a 4 year old vehicle ties a NEW vehicle means the Toyota is the winner regardless.

This is just the comparison I was waiting for. When I come out of the grocery store into the parking lot it seems every third vehicle is a RAV4. For that reason I'd go with the Subu although I think I'll wait for the hybrid version.

Great video. The problem with Hybrid that people don't take into account is the cost of the car + ownership time. The only way you're breaking even on your money with Hybrids is if you own the car for about 7 - 10 years depending on which year you got it. I always feel this should be addressed. I just wish Toyota would update their RAV 4 design. I personally think it's just outdated and the interior just feels plastic like to me.

Amazing job on your site with all the info. When I researched with my insurance company one car I was looking at was half as much as another same class car for yearly insurance. Be interesting to list this and factor that in also.

I find the Forester has more comfortable seats, better suspension, and with the low center of gravity boxer engine, corners better.

Two great cars.

なぜSubaruは、いつもデザインで茨の道を自ら選択するんでしょうか。

How come no one knows if you push the sun roof open button one more time the glass will open all the way?

How does air come through the moonroof ?😂

I recently ordered a 2025 Subaru Forester Touring to replace my 2018 Subaru Forester Limited. This will be my 5th Subaru. I also, currently own a 2019 Subaru Ascent Touring.

The Subaru Forester is great on snow and ice. I like the 2.5L non-turbo boxer engine of the Forester. Don't care for the look of the Toyota.

I like almost everything about the Forester better than the Rav4 except for the power and fuel economy. Therefore, I would buy the Rav4 over the Forester until I've had an opportunity to see what the Forester's new hybrid option offers.

Both are great cars, but different at the same time. This Forester is a new generation, and in my opinion has a better (more "premium" ) interior as well, however the RAV4 is a hybrid option...well..not an easy choice but fuel efficiency aside, I would go to the Forester.

Toyota and Subaru are now join venture companies.

Ha, finally figured it out, The new Forester takes design cues from Toyota...and Ford. I said this in so many of the new reviews of the 2025 Forester. Now it's obvious! Too bad Suby is losing its own brand looks to homogenize w other cliche brands.

The biggest "no" for me in the forester is the CVT.

CAN’T YOU USE THE TOP TRIMS OF BOTH?! YOU ARE USING THE TOURING FORESTER AND XSE HYBRID RAV4! LIKE USE THE LIMITED RAV4!

Subaru por lejos ofrece una mejor calidad e integridad.

What's up with the brake light on Toyota being as small as a 1970's bicycle tail light?

I prefer the Forester for safety all around. Exclusive Symmetrical all wheel drive. Hybrids are good in the city/ frecuent stops help to improve gas mileage. In the highway, the story is different; no gain. More weight to carry over.

2025 forester leasing at 8.49% APR in Ontario...😂😂😂 they don't want to sell.

It's about time to see a comparison with a point differentiation of 0.. haha. Now Subaru gets the hybrid and Toyota realizes it doesn't live in a vacuum 😅

Hate SUV's I want wagons like the ones in Europa, Asia, Australia... better handling, lower roof line - easier to load a Thule box... bike, etc.

I'm all in with the Suby!!!!!!!

Why did the Subaru sound like that when it was accelerating?😭 it was groaning

What's up with the "accent lights" on the RAV4? I've been trying to find out if those just look "cool", or if they actually function like fog lights. The XSE trim is the only one that uses these instead of nothing, or traditional fog lights. Seems dumb that if you want the upgraded suspension that comes with the XSE that you can't get fog lights. Plus the mandatory two tone color scheme, with the only choice being the black roof, where you can get higher surface temperatures to really bake on the bird droppings (which will really stand out against the black. I've seen some IR scans of different exterior colors, and the black gets significantly hotter than light colors). Toyota "content packaging" people live on a different planet than I do. Subaru builds in a lot of content for the money. The blind spot monitor on the Subaru has indicator lights mounted on the cabin side of the side mirror casings. They are larger than most of the indicators imbedded in the mirrors and easier to see, and not confuse with the turn signal lights. Adaptable headlights sound good, although I have not test driven at night. I have driven several trim levels of the '24 Forester, and although nice, could not get excited about a long-term relationship with that drivetrain. I'm looking to replace my Forester XT, (2 liter, twin scroll turbo) and the wheezy old 2.5i just doesn't cut it. (Even worse in the heavier Outback). It's fine for around town and speeds up to about 50, but for on-ramps or passing, once it gets past about 50, it just feels agonizingly slow to pull that next 10 mph gain. It is telling that the RAV4 beats out the Forester, given that this is a new model Forester, and the RAV4 is probably in its last model year. Subaru has been asleep at the switch on drivetrains. I hope they do something "worthy" with the hybrid, and that it adds some much needed punch to the acceleration. I'd like to see some testing on slippery surfaces or snow/sand/mud to see how the electronic motor provided drive to the rear wheels compares to the full-time mechanical AWD.

Let’s compare with 25 Toyota

Easily the New Forester Reason Being No Need to Change the Hybrid Batteries in the Future 😕❤😎🇺🇲.

i liked the 2024 design subaru forester, they took the face than represent this suv brand away and put a ford explorer copycat on it. its awful.