The intense glory of God is what burned that image if our Savior into the cloth at his resurrection Amen

There is no god

NO SHROUD of Turin in the gospels ... I started to think about the Shroud some time ago because quite a lot of KZfaq channels claim that it is 100 % sure the burial cloth of Jesus. So I did what Paul said: 1Thess 5,21 but test them all; hold on to what is good, I searched for all the relevant "burial" verses in the gospels and I did some basic Greek word studies on BibleHub: Mk 15,46 And Joseph bought linen cloth [SINDONA, singular] and taking him down, wrapped [ENEILESEN] him in the linen cloth [SINDONI, singular] and laid him in a tomb that had been cut out of the rock. And he rolled a stone against the entrance of the tomb. Joh 19,39 Nicodemus also, who earlier had come to Jesus by night, came bringing a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds in weight [about 32 kg]. Joh 19,40 So they took the body of Jesus and bound [EDESAN] it in linen cloths [OTHONIOIS, plural] with [META] the spices [AROMATON; about 32 kg], as is the burial custom of the Jews. Mk 16,1 When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices [AROMATA] so that they might go to anoint [ALEIPSOSIN] Jesus. (1) SINDON > a linen cloth? I quickly recognised that some bible translations of SINDON are adding the indefinite article "a" although there is no one in the original Greek texts. Is it mandatory to add "a" and is it also mandatory to understand "the" plus noun singular always as one piece only? Why the gospel of John does not mention SINDON? (2) JOSEPH > purchase If SINDON must be understood as one large piece linen only (like the Shroud) - where the bandages (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION) came from? (3) SOUDARION Shroud If the complete body of Jesus was already wrapped/bound by Joseph and Nicodemus in something like the Shroud - why there was a need to add a head cloth? Also Lazarus wore a head cloth when coming out the tomb himself but how it was done in combination with something like the Shroud? (4) SPICES > stains/particles Nicodemus organised a 32 kg sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes. Together with Joseph they wrapped/bound the body in linen (OTHONION) WITH the spices. STURP (Shroud Of Turin Research Program) used many analytical methods and finally it was even emphasised that not any trace of spices/oils were detected!? But there must be at least non degradable stains/particles of spices (like for blood)!? And if in the meantime a failure of STURP was revealed - how the adding of spices worked with something like the Shroud? (5) WOMEN > anointing After Sabbath the women came to anoint Jesus. How this worked if the body was completely wrapped/bound in linen with the spices? To get access at least to his head they would have had to remove/destroy the wrapping!? FAZIT: To bring all the gospel information together ... o without twisting the Scripture, o not assuming/inventing something, o and only considering the gospels' context, ... I would claim the following: I. SINDON must be translated/understood as a general material description "linen cloth" and it means all the needed burial cloth (bandages and head cloth). Joseph should have known to buy what is needed according to the burial customs of Jews at that time. II. OTHONION means bandages and the spices were put between when the body was wrapped/bound by Joseph and Nicodemus (except the head). This was done promptly after taking Jesus from the cross. III. The SOUDARION was added also promply and it remained there until the resurrection. IV. Jesus was transported to the nearby rock-tomb and was laid in there. Nothing else was done in the tomb. V. The women came after Sabbath with the intention to anoint Jesus' head (hair/face). This was an act of honour that could have been done easily by removing/adding the head cloth (SOUDARION). Trust the gospels and not a doubtful relic to believe in Jesus!

Isn't it amazing that we KNOW what our Savior looks like?!!! 😊

@ Rhonda Johnson Isn't it wonderful that science has now confirmed what we knew by faith? 😊

@@melanielinkous8746 yes it is amazing and I'm excited to some day to meet our savior.

Me too 63 n love god 💕 Julie we too Johnson ha 💕

Exactly! Faith!!!

*For once read the Bible: Isaiah 50:6 - Isaiah 52:14 New Catholic Bible* *"Just as many people recoiled at the sight of him-* *he was so disfigured* *that he no longer appeared to be human"* *I gave My back to those who strike Me,* *And My cheeks to those who pluck out the beard;* *I did not cover My face from humiliation and spitting.* *And after all the punishment that the Bible describe he went trough...then he looks that he was having a "siesta"?*

@@vg9137 nothing is impossible to God🙏 If you doubt the truth about the shroud of Turin I believe you’re in error🙏

​@@paddyearly Some people dont WANT to believe. We know why. Sad. Be blessed 🕊

@@paddyearly *I believe that Jesus is the only begotten son of God, he died in a cross for me, he rose again, ascended to heaven and is coming again as Lord of Lords and King of Kings. All is in the Bible no in a shroud*

@@berndmayer1765 Belief is not a choice. Either one is convinced or one is not convinced. Growing up in a church, people told me that "God" spoke to them. When I inquired how they "heard" God, the would not say. I listened. And I only heard myself. A half century later and I've still only seen evidence of self-delusion and wishful thinking, like small children giddy over their belief in Santa Clause.

That makes me cry..He touched the shroud. The burial cloth that is the resurrection cloth of our beautiful Lord. Wow.❤️👑

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Lucky you 💗🌺🙏

It did, the energy was similar to Cherenkov radiation. Very rich in short wavelength UV. Dude wrapped in it was teleported atom by atom

@@christopherleubner6633 And someday, because of the price Jesus paid for us on the cross, OUR lowly, earthly bodies will be transformed just like Jesus's body. Can't wait!!!

@@SpearOfTruth333 the fact that it can't be replicated already proves its authenticity. why? because it was time, chemistry and physics that made that image. it wasn't artificial. it was made naturally which means, whatever it portrays is real.

@@SpearOfTruth333 Too bad it isn't Jesus though. If we compare what scripture clearly states, we can know it is not him.

@@dyerseve07 what in the scriptures says it is not Jesus?

there have been many shrouds over the years this one was carbon dated to the 13th century by the Swiss

The carbon dating objection is addressed in this video and appears to be rejected as invalid.

He is nice. I met him at a church in Longmont, CO, several years ago, and said to him "You touched the Shroud?!" He smiled and said yes, and held out his hand for me to shake-he knew why I'd asked that question!!

@@themysticalexperiencer8141 - he's a gent.

What is his Email ? Love to talk to him ! I have watched thousands and thousands of shroud videos including William guy comprehensive analysis of the shroud which tells of the blood , the tools used to whip Jesus ( match ) everything is Forensically accurate and cannot be disputed by science

@@kathyr.8135 - if you go to his website, there is a contact button at the bottom. His e-mail address is there. That's how I originally contacted him. I hope you have a Merry Christmas!

@@kathyr.8135 even thomas de wesselow the Cambridge art historian believes this is authentic … and he’s an agnostic . But de wesselow believes that it was caused by a natural chemical reaction between the body and cloth called the mallard reaction . The problem is no one has ever known the mallard reaction to create an image with these qualities . Again because of his naturalistic views thomas de wesselow won’t allow himself to believe that this image was caused by the resurrection process . But he stayed emphatically that this image fits NO artistic style of any period of art history

Wow!! Outstanding perspective!!!

Too bad it isn't Jesus though. If we compare what scripture clearly states, we can know it is not him.

@@dyerseve07 Please explain and would you give scripture reference too? Thanks

Lito Zulueta: read my comment at the beginning. God says it's a fake. Why do you believe a non believer? He has no biblical answer. It's nice that everyone believes he's a nice man, but that doesn't answer scripture. Hopefully God will open his eyes to scripture.

@@jerrypotter4137 So the Shroud of Turin is a fake because it is not in the Bible? John’s Chapter 20 account of the “empty tomb” says the “disciple” (John?) went ahead of Peter and saw the “linen cloth” that covered Jesus’ body “lying on the ground”. The same gospel ended with the caveat that “not all signs and miracles of Jesus and his disciples are recorded in this book.” The photographer is a Jew-like Jesus-and does not a nonbeliever’s expert opinion that the Shroud is not a fake and that it could be the real thing carry some weight and should check the naysayers and haters and self-proclaimed believers like you?

@@litozulueta6013 You are not reading the verse. There are three parts to wrapping a body as the Jews did. The head, body, and feet. It is wrapped like a barber's pole. Spiral. It over laps. God is telling you that the shroud is fake long before it ever happened. The reason that not all miracles he did were recorded because the purpose of any miracle is to show who Jesus is: the Messiah and that he is the only one who can save you from your sins. Jesus never healed the same way twice to prove that it's not what he does that's important: it is who he is. A non believers opinions don't matter one little bit. He has no answers from the bible which is God's word. If the two conflict: the bible wins. Lastly God can NOT violate his own word. THOU SHALT NOT MAKE ANY GRAVEN IMAGE... OF ANYTHING THAT IS IN HEAVEN.... So where is Jesus? OR ON THE EARTH.... Jesus walked here. OR UNDER THE EARTH, meaning the ocean. Anyone making a fish symbol representing Jesus is wrong. Icthus Ixous in Greek means fish. Each letter is the first letter in the phrase, Jesus Christ, son of God savior. There is no description of Jesus anywhere other than Isaiah saying "they plucked out my beard". Now why do you think that is?

@@litozulueta6013 the shroud is fake because of what is IN the bible. It does NOT say anything was on the ground. The face cloth was rolled up and NOT lying with the linen wrappings. The bodies do NOT lie on the ground. This was a tomb; not a grave. A "non-believer's" opinion does NOT matter when it comes to the bible. John 11:44 gives you the same details of "unwrapping him". Since Jesus raised Lazarus; then where is the imprint on his cloth? They wrapped the body like a candy cane swirl. The cloth overlaps each piece and it's impossible to have a photo of a flat picture be on the wrappings. Also God does NOT violate his own word. THOU SHALT NOT make any graven image of anything that is in Heaven or on the earth or under the earth. Is Jesus in heaven or not? Apparently you don't trust the bible. Now who's the self-proclaimed believer? Jesus came unto his own and his own did NOT receive him. Who cares if the photographer was Jewish? My teacher is a Hebrew that speaks Greek. That was thirty five years ago. A person comes to Jesus because of his sin: NOT a photograph.

@@jerrypotter4137 The linen shroud is different from the facial veil. The Catholic Church may have both-the Shroud of Turin and the Veil of Manopello. In any case you seem to discount the varacity of the Shroud because of iconoclasm. What that fotog is saying is that based on his expertise, he finds the image on the shroud could not have been painted or faked.

*The "unbelievers" are put off by all the paganism that the so call "believers" want to push on them.* *For once read the Bible and explain: Isaiah 50:6* *I gave My back to those who strike Me,* *And My cheeks to those who pluck out the beard;* *I did not cover My face from humiliation and spitting.* *And after all the punishment that the Bible describe he went trough...then he looks that he was having just a "siesta"?*

You have nothing but preconceived notions of what we atheists are like. Most of us were once practicing christians who thought about it and saw too many holes and contradictions. But of all people, we are certainly the most open to being shown some, any, evidence for the existence of god. We beg you believers for anything hidden to be shown, uncovered, affirmed. Yet we get nothing, because you have nothing. We are definitely not afraid, only disappointed.

You might like to read "Hostile Witnesses" by Gary Michuta.

I'm a believer in Jesus Christ and I do not believe in the shroud as it clearly seems to not fit with the Word of God.

Yeah I always thought of it in that sense too, and thank you for your service! My brother is a Marine also

@@ryananthony4840 thank you Ryan for your kind thoughts.

You are exactly right. We attended a Shroud event at the Museum of the Bible in DC and heard a Father Robert Spitzer speak on the specifics of exactly what you are saying. Fascinating!

it was carbon dated by the Swiss to the 13th century.

@@willscheck8072 the results of the Swiss examinations have been drawn into question by several reputable sources.

True

So do Jews

It is real, feel it when I look at it, it just does something.

the reason people are deceived is because Jesus isn't their Lord they say he is but they have their mind on this world and never grow to sinless obedience and become overcomes by death to self and being born of the spirit with a new mind and the powers of the world to come. they remain infants and cannot face the powers of darkness. no spiritual power only a form of godliness.if they read the book they would know that the cloth is not a witness, and his burial wraps were in two piles and not a roman relic to bow before .

What evidence is there that this is Jesus' burial cloth?

You have to wonder if these people read the bible, the Acts of the apostles the epistles to understand what the faith of the Lord Jesus Christ is really all about. SMH.

kind of like we do not need the Word of God in written form (the bible)? He gave us these so that we could learn and understand. who are you to say what is of God?

@@lleestimer2547 we absolutely need God’s Word that’s how He speaks to us.

@@FishesAndLoaves997 that was the point I was trying to make. That He gave us His Word. Why is it difficult to think He may have left the Shroud for us as well?

True that believers don't need it. The shroud is for the non-believers!

Wow that gave me chills, beautifully said.

The people in Japan, who were bombed in WWII, by the Atom bomb..the shadows of some of those unfortunate people still exist, burned into the cement, where they died... TO THIS DAY ! The radiation from bomb is the same radiation as that suffered from those at Chernobyl.

Indeed! If God himself were to show up in full intensity in front of us while here on the Earth......i doubt our bodies would survive it. I believe our flesh would melt off of our bones, something like the Ark of the Covenant scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark, lol. When Jesus visited me at the Windsor Park apartment complex off of Plano Rd. in Dallas Texas.....he was too bright to look at directly, my eyes were cast down to my left, and he appeared to be hovering slightly above the ground. I could however make out his right hand and forearm that was extended out towards me. In the palm of his right hand was a brilliant shining ball about 1/2 an inch in diameter. It looked like it had been purified by fire over 7 times. and had beams of light shooting out from it in all directions. The appearance was the color of Gold that shined like quicksilver. When Jesus extended his right hand out to me and had it in the palm of his hand....I immediately knew that he was offering it to me. So without speaking, i agreed to accept it, and stretched my left hand out towards his hand to take it out of his hand. When my hand got close to it, it then flew out of Jesus hand, right into my hand, and then went straight INTO my hand and my bones...it then flew straight into my HEART. And that is the very moment that i heard Jesus speak. And this is exactly word for word what he said: "What are you going to do with it?" I IMMEDIATELY knew how special it was and how powerful it was. And before i could stop myself I said something with the intention to let Jesus know that I knew how special it was and that it needed to be PROTECTED AT ALL COSTS. So before i could stop myself i said something kinda stupid and still regret it just a little bit. Here is what i told Jesus when he asked me what i was going to do with it, and this is word for word what i said: "I will keep it in my Heart and GUARD it like a DRAGON." And then Jesus disappeared.....and here I am several years later still alive by the Grace of God and his oldest Son, Jesus Christ. Otherwise known as Amen. And here i am still alive with it in my HEART and there is NOTHING IN THIS WORLD THAT CAN TAKE IT FROM ME. Amen!!!!

So lucky.

there have been many shrouds over the years this one was carbon dated by the Swiss to the 13th century.

Of course, the shroud is real. It's the "REAL BURIAL SHROUD OF THE SON OF GOD!"

Image worship is the end goal here. I have a friend who worships the replica of the image from shroud of tourin. Even if it was true, why was it not mentioned in the scriptures and the gospels? Imagine people interacting with your image and ignoring the real, live you. That is the PLAN here, to elevate something to the level of WORSHIP than the ONE true who should be worshipped. And Yahweh says "I shall not give my glory to ... images"

For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is sufficient.

You have that 100% right! So many God hating atheists have tried their best to denounce the Holy Shroud as a fake and all have failed. The Shroud of Turin is the _Real Deal!_ ✝

there have been many shrouds over the years this was carbon dated by the Swiss to the 13th century.

@@willscheck8072 You really need to get with the times, Will. It was like *18 years ago* that Dr. Ray Rogers, a scientist at Los Alamos National Scientific Laboratories in New Mexico, _proved_ that the carbon testing was done in error as the sample taken was from non-original part of the Shroud. The Shroud of Turin is 2000 years old.

@@beverlyhurd8556 you need to learn your bible he was marred more than any man the face on this rag was not.also if you new your bible you would know that this is fake i'm not going around with people who don't walk with Jesus. and know him or his word except at a baby level. you don't even know the doctrine of christ or the order of teaching and growth in a christian life if you did i wouldn't have to try to correct you, grow up .

@@willscheck8072 and the carbon dating was wrong as it was done on a chard piece of cloth instead of the un-burned area.

Amazing!

Wow!

Everyones ancestors rode on Noah's ark.

@@AA-ke5cu Adam and Eve were my aunt and uncle

Well, if we go far back enough in time everyone has had some illustrious person in the family tree but if you're just an anonymous person on you tube, it's doesn't matter

The style fits with it being a 14th century portrait, definitely not of a corpse. You ought to read Baudolino by Umberto Eco.

Too bad it isn't Jesus though. If we compare what scripture clearly states, we can know it is not him.

Indeed

I also felt this was the face of my savior, when I first saw it. It is deeply beautiful.

@@maryjeanfollen160 Sadly, it is not as it goes against the descriptions we are given in the Word of God.

It’s a fake that blood has 48 chromosomes

It should only have 24 read the Bible with the spirit of prophecy or you will be deceived

Now you should know that you must have the Holy Spirit when reading the Bible.

accept someone admitted he forged it in a letter. The first written evidence of the shroud we have in existence. Explain

@@aquila813apologetics3 That letter claims that the image was made with pigments. The Shroud's image is the result of oxidation. The claim and the evidence do not match.

@@aquila813apologetics3 anyone can claim they forged something in a letter. The point is that forging the shroud is impossible.

@@stevebeakley302 Hmmmm im 50/50 i think.

@@aquila813apologetics3 look into the matter further. Please. It's factual that it's Christ's and the marking was made by the radiation emitted by His body when He rose. Find the reasons why it is impossible to fake. There is no room to believe otherwise once you've looked.

*For once read the Bible: Isaiah 50:6 - Isaiah 52:14 New Catholic Bible* *"Just as many people recoiled at the sight of him-* *he was so disfigured* *that he no longer appeared to be human"* *I gave My back to those who strike Me,* *And My cheeks to those who pluck out the beard;* *I did not cover My face from humiliation and spitting.* *And after all the punishment that the Bible describe he went trough...then he looks that he was having a "siesta"?*

@spearoftruth And apparenty you didn't listen to anything that was said during this discussion.

this shroud and there have been many was carbon dated to the 13th century by the Swiss.

And the image is in the NEGATIVE, which means the light emanated from WITHIN the cloth!!!

Read the Gospel accounts. There was more than one cloth. Read the account of Lazarus’ resurrection his burial cloths in Gospel of John.

Truth

@@susandraluck25 All that is true and it fits the Shroud exactly. There were multiple clothes when Jesus was buried. The face cloth was used to cover Jesus's face when he was brought down from the cross. This face cloth was buried with Jesus but not touching Jesus's face. The Shroud edges were cut into strips and those strips were used to secure the Shroud to Jesus. These same stripes of linen were then restitched back into the Shroud which scientists have identified. Also, the burial custom of the Jews was not exactly the same in the Jewish community because the Rich, middle class, and poor were buried differently. Jesus had the privilege of being buried by the rich man, Joseph of Arimathea, in the rich man's tomb. All piece of evidence proves that this is the burial shroud of Jesus.

@@susandraluck25 ...Yes, the face cloths - used to cover over His disfigured face when taken from Cross to tomb. (...Which match the blood patterns and blood type.) ...Also, there would typically be binding strips. These were how this 8x2 cubit typical burial cloth of the time was then kept in place. The strips were ties, they were apparently gently wrapped around a dead body - to hold a burial cloth in place. These were found rolled, so the Gospel says - but we don't know what happened to them, right? No Jew would have ever removed blood or bloodied linen from the tomb after it was sealed, as it was part of the person's soul... Except for the miraculous 'impossible' disappearance of the full body itself - which threw so many incredibly shocking thoughts and considerations into the air... Someone who knew the true Divinity of this 'Man' - the Messiah - broke all protocol for 'revolutionary' reasons and took the shroud - and carefully hid it... And probably as a group, the disciples, who knew it needed to be kept - but kept fully secret from all around them - did God's doing, at least as they saw it. Who would destroy such a thing? It would never have survived if it had belonged to anyone else - not for any reason. We, followers, have a factual image of the Son of God (swollen, broken, bloodied and bruised) - a hint of His awesome physiognomy - taken at the very moment that He metamorphosised into spirit at His Resurrection. It's mind-blowing - like few of us can fully comprehend - me included... It's a 'photographic' image recorded in an instant in historical time of the greatest Miracle since the Creation of Life... The gift from God of His and our Eternity marking the very moment the resurrected path was struck of His only begotten Son to all who choose to take it. ...Whoa. God be praised.

John 20 :7 tells us that his burial clothes were in two piles not one

@@willscheck8072 are you sure there is not another cloth with even more detailed information of His face? and why would you assume that the power which produced the image could not have traveled through a piece of cloth to produce the image on the Shroud?

Yes, the headpiece is in Spain. The DNA matches the DNA on the Shroud perfectly.

@Pat Last why do you even care about this read your bible and pray and forget about this distraction. that is my suggestion if you are a member of a 501c3 church i would go elsewhere. if you serve God and speak to him why don't the two of you talk it over between yourselves. and see what he says, if you can't hear him for yourself then you have bigger issues beyond a piece of old rag.

@Pat Last if he told you that it has to be backed by the written word . it is not the 3 witnesses are listed in scripture the shroud is not on the list.i don't know what spirit you are listening to probably your own heart not Jesus .

Exactly. Wondrous and miraculous!!

It has also been discovered that there is a flash of light at the moment of conception! 🙏🏻

true!!

Fabulous!

@Whyare Youasking that is correct and there is two times in the Bible where HE said let us go down one was the creation of man the other was the Tower of Babel

why settle for some relic let Jesus himself live in and through you. set your affection on things above not on things on the earth.

Exactly

@@kimpozon8230 I have no clue what that energy is

You don't apply any critical thinking? You know HOW I know it's a Catholic hoax? For one, burial clothes are dispensed with as being unclean. Secondly Jesus preached a Gospel that clearly stressed man's relationship with God and his neighbor and not physical possessions, so it's clear that the "shroud" is clearly a hoax. Also fabric doesn't last 2,000 years!!!

I have Jesus himself living in my heart

@@willscheck8072 Good. He is living in mine too.

its a danger to believe a lie, study this for yourself it was carbon dated to 1200 A.D.- 1300A.D. over the years there have been many shrouds and relics pieces of the cross ect.

Believing the shroud to be real/fake has no bearing on a person’s salvation. If you follow Christ and believe him to be who he claimed to be, you are saved.

What a loving thing to say. I can think of no other instance in which the mere non-act of not being convinced by something so brutally condemns a person to eternal suffering. You were convinced. Congratulations. But our experiences are different. I spent decades, for instance, as a professional musician taking part in literally hundreds of religious rituals in nearly as many different churches, each with their own variation of rules, beliefs, and practices, often contradictory to one another. Perhaps I would have been more easily convinced of the truth of but a single one of them had I not seen all of the others. But that would have been from a position of relative ignorance compared to the such a huge variety. Also, what convinces one person may not be sufficient to convince all. Science did not "turn me away" from religion. Rather, the burden being on the claimant to show sufficient cause for acceptance of their claim, I simply have not be presented with sufficiently convincing evidence. And for that I must suffer eternal torment. If he were real, why would one even want to praise such a terrible entity in the first place?

@@Captain-Cosmo What a "loving" comment you make. Such dogma you spew. Your way or the highway. The ash heap of history is piled high with those competing with Yeshua/Jesus. So many "skeptics" have an encounter/ignore/encounter... relationship with the most loved, admired, denied, and rejected person in human history with various levels of jealousy added. I look at the information in your comment and the information in what Jesus has said and Jesus is way more wise than you. But God loves you soooooo much he's not going to force you to Him. 🎶 Love when you can, cry when you have to be who you must that's the part of the plan. Await your arrival with simple survival and one day you'll all understand, one day we'll all understand, one day we'll all understand 🎶 Peace

@@1oomkje that's what I meant to say

@@Captain-Cosmo I had edit my comment to include people who are brainwashed believing Jesus is not the Risen Messiah, the shroud of itself is not a salvation matter

It is so true.

Richter, YOU are an atheist in regards to all of the other gods you don't believe in, so your claim here equally applies to you too. "Evidence of God's existence (Zeus, Baal, Vishnu) staring you in the face - YOU will reject." That's called an own goal.

Check out what Richard Dawkins said about what evidence would convince him that God exists​@@kidslovesatan34

Comparing the Almighty God who created the universe to mythical gods is disingenuous

@@kidslovesatan34you are so disconnected with the conversation.

AMEN. searching the method the Jews prepared the body for burial states that the head was wrapped separately in a square cloth/napkin.. I don’t need any evidence to believe that My Lord and Saviour lived and died and rose again.

This is a recent creation probably burned in. This is pure disinformation at its finest. Pure lies with a fabricated name. How could his name have been jesus when he died 1500 years before the letter J was even invented? These people lie so much I bet there is a plan to create a guy named Jesus who returns and claims that name and tell the world we need a one world government. And he will probably be with genetically engineered giant people. People are snakes and very sneaky and power hungry. You cant put anything past current leadership.

could that be the piece we have yet to find?

@@lleestimer2547 Look for Sudario de Oviedo.

Exactly what I thought! People just really want to believe it was Jesus, no matter if a scripture might give you pause to reconsider. I think, that in Gods great wisdom, and knowing just how carnal man is, that he made sure the grave cloths were completely destroyed through natural means.

We walk by Faith, not by sight...💗💚💗

Phillip ~I have heard that some Greek Orthodox Christians believe that a dead person needs to have bones (skeleton) intact for the future Resurrection, is this true.?

It's fake, and not a very good fake at that. This was a medieval concoction by a not very good artist. There are serious anatomical problems with the image. Jesus' face, body, arms, and fingers are unnaturally thin and elongated, one forearm is longer than the other, and his right hand is too long. The man is improbably tall, between 5' 11½" and 6' 2" tall. Jews who lived in the 1st century were much shorter than this. (If Jesus was really this tall he would have really stood out and there would have been no need for Judas to point him out to the Romans). The head is disproportionately small for the body, the face unnaturally narrow and the forehead foreshortened, and ears lost. The front and back images, in particular of the head, do not match up precisely, and the back image is longer than the front. The back of the head is wider than the front of the head. The hair is hanging straight down, as if the man was sitting. As for blood, all the forensic tests specific for blood, and only blood, have failed. While there are traces of iron, proteins and porphyrins which are found in blood, these are also found in artists' pigments. There is no trace of sodium, chlorine or potassium, which blood contains in high amounts and which would have been present if the stains were truly blood.

@@plainsman look at Noah. We have the coffin of his wife, who was shorter than him. She is estimated to have been 18ft tall, as calculated from the bones of her finger. Preflood man was of a larger stature. This is factual evidence, as opposed to your new age psuedo science. Man is now much smaller, and lives way shorter life, from hundreds of years (falsely claimed as "Neatherdal skulls), to just 120yrs, to now rarely hitting 80s. So your Fantasy of shorter humans in Jesus days is simply non factual "circular reasoning". Causing doubt in artifacts of Christ (the shroud) puts you in a really dammed position. There is no pigments on the shroud. The simple knowledge of how a shroud would be placed over the body explains the narrow effect which still recreates a perfect 3d image and is an impossibility for any man or machine made image to be negative image, providing it was a supernatural event from inside the shroud. Negative images are only made in camera film, and an impossibility to be on a cloth without any pigments so it is misinformation spewed to say the shroud had any picture painting pigments or burns, of which none can create a 3d negative image.

@@plainsman haha modern photography wasn't invented untill over a thousand years later!.. NOBODY would even dream of knowing to make A NEGATIVE IMAGE! Haha your so desperate to try invalidate the Shroud . :p

there have been many shrouds this one was carbon dated by the Swiss to the 13th century.

Do you have any idea how many fake "holy relics" there are out there? It was a huge industry in its time. Each one sits in its gilded case and is venerated and worshiped by the faithful. Doesn't make any of them real.

Not all of us who wander need salvation, because we are not lost, merely exploring our surroundings in peace.

Not when they have happened to you ❤️✝️❤️

There are no miracles if so no Christian would have cancer die in car accidents or plane crashes in 2 decades we have had 2 major tsunamis killing 350 thousand people many of them children and Christian . Nature does not have free will but a miracle could stop all this suffering but it Never happenens

If only there were a single solitary "miracle" we could actually witness.

Have you conceived a child?

The facecloth was used to cover His face and head when they took him down from the cross. Then it was taken off as the shroud was placed over him. The stains on the shroud and the facecloth match up exactly.

@@beverlyhurd8556 Thank you!

@@beverlyhurd8556 Joh 20:7 And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself.

it looks like you read your bible another problem not including the fact that this shroud was carbon dated to the 13th century by the Swiss. his face was marred more than any man . that fake was not the face of someone marred more than any man. you my sister are an astute student of the scripture.i knew instantly years ago when i first saw this it was fake. even the Catholic Church does not believe this is an icon that means the original.

No it’s not. Read the description of His grave clothes in the Gospels.

@@susandraluck25 Absolutely correct. (John 20: 6 & 7) Also: The Bible reports that his beard was plucked. A follower of the law polls (cuts) his hair every year. He was not over 6 feet tall! He faded into the crowd. If he was that tall, he would be a towering giant! God did provide 500 witnesses! However, relics were an obsession of the Roman Catholic Church. We do not need relics (bones, fingers, pieces of the cross OR this cloth) for our faith.

​@@eswn1816 no crucified victim ever received a cap of thorns on their head, spear wound to the side of their ribs nor their bones left unbroken.

@@nahj1don706 Which was all described in the Bible way before the shroud was known. John's gospel does not confirm one piece of cloth. Jews (Lazarus) were buried in strips of linen with a face covering or handkerchief. People are witnesses. Today the Holy Spirit witnesses. I don't need a relic from the Middle ages! 🙏

@@eswn1816 poor people and rich ppl were buried DIFFERENTLY... Jesus was buried in a LINEN shroud by Joseph, a rich man. The strips of linen the bible spoke of actually the 2 strips of cloth cut from the side of the shroud to tie the shroud to keep the body inside it. Also, the face cloth is actually the sudarium of Oviedo that's in the museum.. go and do some research. Then even if that's not 100% compelling... explain how can a body in a shroud release 32 trillion watts of UV light in a split second to form the image on the cloth... as scientists suggest is the amount of light needed to form the image???

No, the Shroud of Turin is fake. God does not deal in trinkets.

Check out Ray Downing's work on the shroud. Using precise computer calculations he was able to recalculate what the face would actually look like in real life. It's absolutely stunning...

Remember, Jesus had been beaten. No telling how different he looked after the beatings from his normal self. 🙏🏻

@@jettyharrison4377 There is a Scripture that says - People hid their faces when they saw him. - His face was distorted in some way. He didn't want man to be drawn to him because of his looks. Truly he lived a life of the cross, dead to self.

Not now! He came to me in a glorious amazing dream in 1973, and He is breathtakingly beautiful. He does not look now like He did when He walked the earth. Nor when He walked the earth, did He look like He did in eternity past! He is Perfect in beauty.

@@sandrajohnson9926 did they hide their face because they were shameful or because he was physically unpleasant? These claims you’re making is just personal opinion, I’m not saying you are wrong but I am saying we cannot be 100% sure..do you know what I mean?

Jesus said, I am the resurrection and the life, NOT and the (light).

...Err, well it's from AD 33, more or less!

@@matthewstokes1608 No, dunderhead. It is what it can be dated back to, with reasonable certainty.

@@jonglewongle3438I was just saying the obvious... if it's truly the shroud cloth of Christ, then following what 'science' dictates to a pointless year makes a mockery of reason - following faith makes infinitely more sense - because I don't need carbon dating to know precisely what I do about the cloth if it's genuine. It's 33 AD.

I can’t find any information on an ‘antiochene sculpture of the head of Christ’ can you please direct me. Tia.

​@@jonglewongle3438 No one has been able to disprove the tests that have been conducted.

you can talk to Jesus anytime at all just listen and wait on him to answer, its easy even little children can talk to Jesus a friend who will come in and talk and enjoy your love for him.

@@willscheck8072 I already do but generally do not get answers for such question now.