Fuck FL

Ya? In judo we call it uchi mata. Can’t grab legs in judo comps anymore but works well in bjj and wrestling.

As in Cupertino Stevens Creek Boulevard?

I think is still ok. But the 停sound like Ding!

Yes I guess after a while, grappling sports will converge into what works well, within the limits of their rule set. I'm not at all pleased with what judo is turning into though. Shuai Jiao seems very interesting.

Lol that's like saying kickboxing is just boxing with illegal strikes. Judo is about throwing the guy in a very specific way, where Shuaijiao is basically just about getting the guy to the ground. It's like the difference between HEMA and kendo, in that one is more grounded in reality while the other one has rules that make it quite different from historical swordfighting.

Yeah there are rules associated with stalling that keep the action moving. Wrestling is wrestling. No Ippon changes things a bit but in essence isn't all grappling similar?

Wrestling style takedowns are allowed, and there arent illegal grips like in judo

We do a bit at my school. As part of the sparring and Sanda but there's not Pure Shuai Jiao school in the city that I know of

With all respect, as a BJJ guy, I’m sure they would kick my ass in stand up

As somebody who practices it, there definitely are hip throws. The thing is, more is allowed im shuai jiao than in judo though, so purely because of the variety of throws and takedowns allowed, youre not going to see any one technique as much as in more specific rule sets. Theres also the question of personal style- i dont personally perform many hip throws because if i fuck up against a BJJ guy, theyll end my life cuz i gave them my back- i prefer throws that dont have as severe a punishment for failure. Also, its nit a combination of anything related to judo- this is the oldest grappling martial art im aware of, other than maybe Pankration (which nobody actually knows anymore). Its hard to say where shuai jiao originated, but the evidence ive seen points more towards mongolia, definitely not japan

Nice man, thank you for the clarification. I wasn’t saying that literally it’s a combination of judo and wrestling. I’m aware that many Japanese martial arts originated in China, not the other way around. It’s super cool that you’re doing something unique and not mainstream like BJJ

@Ari-cb2fn ah, my bad then- yeah, I have a thing for trying to preserve more niche styles purely for the sake of them not fading into obscurity/Mcdojo bs. No hate for the mainstream stuff tho

I'm guessing it's tradition, like how people use Japanese for judo.

Two styles wear different gi. It must be interesting to try

See the video " Judo.vs.chinese wrestling( shuai Jiao)". It happened in a ring in Xu Xiadongs gym.

Depends on the Judoka.

Red has overhand; why would red ever want to? Blue is the one who failed to rectify his disadvantage

See the video " judo vs.chinese wrestling( shuai Jiao)". Llavel ( topknot in red ) try as ins MMA fighters including Kai Wu.

俩人水平都不差，对方看的太死，蹬手等于给对方添力。

@@user-dr9ds1su6v 蓝方显然一直手上吃着亏呢 不蹬手强使动作，完全是自己把破绽给对方

@@user-wy8os8wz8q俩人差着功夫呢，红方拿住把之后是撑出去的，是两边的把都看紧。明显是推砖的基本功瓷实。蓝方除非俩手拆，一面拆根本拆不出来。要是蓝方撒一个把，去拆另外一个，等于输了把。常练摔跤都懂输跤不输把的道理 俩人实力有差距，把丢了直接被对方做大动作。

@@user-dr9ds1su6v 当然 是这么个理 兄弟在哪练呢

Tell me you’ve never wrestled without telling me you’ve never wrestled

Mongolians are part of the 56 ethnic groups of Chinese so they are.

Chinese wrestling absorbed elements from Mongolian. That's one of the origins of Chinese wrestling. But these two are different.

bruh ,China destroy Mongolians

No, this is shuai jiao. Bokh uses different jackets

Mongolian wrestling has different rules