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Killmonger being a manifestation of Shuri's internal rage and grief was a genius move. The theater I saw this in literally gasped when that fakeout happened

"Don't you dare take that away from your mother, she sacrificed herself." He's got a point you know, I'm no fan of monarchies, but the Queen sacrificed her life to save a girl she barely knew. That's noble.

N’Jadaka did say “Before T’Challa”, meaning he had a form of respect for him, especially Queen Ramonda, when he said “And don’t you dare take that away from your mother.”, the fact she risked her life to save Riri from drowning.

Bro really pulled up in the afterlife and was like "See, me personally......I wouldn't let that slide"

I appreciate the respect kilmonger has for t'challa despite the fact that he did tried to kill him twice. But he thought he be like t'chaka but saw how t'challa was different. Saying he was to noble. I don't take that as a insult more like a flaw that kilmonger saw in him.

"Are you going to be noble like your brother? Or take care of business....like me?"

I was expecting to see Ramonda, T'Challa or T'Chaka to show up and give Shuri an inspirational speech, so when this scene came up I gasped

T'chaka told his son. "You are a good man, and it is hard for a good man to be King". T'Challa was too noble.

“Nahh that ain’t on me” 😂 I love the delivery on that line 1:00 his attitude has not changed but his respect for T’Challa is greater.

had chills man killmonger is just too good as a villian. marvel never maximized his potential

i liked the fact that Killmonger has developed respect for T'Challa and Queen Ramonda

I adore their fact that they had Shuri see Killmonger and have an interaction with him. Amazing writing and incredible acting.

I did love this though. It makes sense that it would be him rather than her mother, father, or brother. She didn’t just need to be comforted, or to see her loved ones again. She needed to be reminded of what her new role was, and there was no one as equipped to address her pain and anger and direct it towards being a good leader.

What people don't realize is that he was the last to become the Panther 💀

This was one of the best plot twist since the revealation of Vulture being Liz's dad and Mysterio's CGI bar scene.

She is correct about Kilmonger being the cause for her brother and mother being lost. All of that could have been prevented if he had not burned the herb or convince Wakanda to end its isolation.

I can’t help but think that in his own way, Killmonger was actually trying to convince Shuri not to go down the vengeance path or she’d end up a villain just like him. All his tough talk and aggression here might be him trying to hide his acknowledgement of the monster he became, mainly talking about how all his actions drove Wakanda to being better in the end. At 0:46 when he mentions the previous panthers before him were cowards, he adds "before T'Challa", showing N'jadaka has some respect for T'Challa to consider him different from his predecessors. Same thing with Ramonda at 1:02, approving how she helped the foreign outsider Riri when her husband didn't do the same for Killmonger. That led Erik to give his younger cousin a choice of being a hero like her brother that he respects (too noble) or a monster like him (take care of business). I could be over analyzing but it’s just an idea

this was such a fire scene and great twist. really shows how much inner hatred and killer mentality she had. it takes a lot to be the black panther.

His actions did indirectly cause the death of Black Panther by destroying the herb

It's not a Ryan Coogler film without Michael B. Jordan 😂

Meanwhile in another reality: Scar: Hypocrites? Those were the fools that came before me... the ones that came before Sim- Kiara: DON'T mention my father. You're the very reason he's dead. You killed him, left us with no king to protect us! Then Zira came and killed Sarabi, her blood, HIS blood rests on YOUR CLAWS! Scar: No... that wasn't my doing. Sarabi is to blame for her foolishness. Simba? He was far too noble and foolish a king. Now, what will you be, child? Will you be as noble as Simba? Or will you do what needs to be done, like me?

I feel like since they didn't go the route of Killmonger corrupting Nakia and her becoming Malice as in the comics. This scene sort of replaces that dynamic. Swapping Nakia for Shuri.

The respect he gave to T'Challa and Queen Ramonda is on another level. He had made points about Namor and T'Chakka which I think they are more alike.

If you will notice when Shuri is in the ancestral plane first she is inside water but she gets out but when she gets out she does not breathe heavily like how a person breathes when they get out of water when they are inside water for too long and even her clothes are not wet when she gets out of water. That is because she was in the ancestral plane and nothing actually happens to people who enter there. I guess clothes not getting wet or drowning or breathing heavily after coming out of water are also a part of it.

Love how it cuts to Shuri being impaled after she says that Namor would beg her for mercy lmao

Best part of the movie but people hate Killmonger because he is right

For me, their meeting was realised the moment the first Killmonger-y face details were shown. 1.I doubted they had Chadwick(RIP😪) come here as this script was an entirely different one than what they had before his condition was worsening. I doubt they had time to film that. 2.Why would her father appear? He would advise her in a wrong way, as it was wrong to kill his brother N'Jobu. 3. As for Ramonda.... I had a brief second of that idea over me, but it would be trying to stop her wish of revenge and make Shuri even angrier. Then, I thought that to see what she wanted to be wrong, she needed to be pushed by someone who she'd never believe of sharing similar traits with. And then...... (Not that I explained it to myself this thouroughly in the theatre)

I like the part where Killmonger mentioned Baron Zemo 1:25

Killpomger was right about the challa was too noble.

While killmonger was vengeful in MCU, Adonis creed was the complete opposite.

Ngl the hair really fits him

The ending got me rolling💀💀

It would’ve been SO MUCH better if they waited to show who she actually saw in the plane until later when she’s fighting Nemor. The payoff would’ve been so good

I really appreciate this scene, not because it made me feel good, quite the opposite really. I had a feeling Shuri wouldn't see Ramonda or any of her immediate family when she took the herb. How could she? As Kilmonger said, she didn't believe in the Ancestral Plain. She rejected the concept of any after life in front of her mother. Tchalla got to see the Ancestral Plain because he believed in it, he accepted it as his culture. Like Kilmonger, Shuri rejected this part of her culture and took the herb with no thought but vengeance. As a consequence, she unknowingly shut herself out of the Ancestral Plain, cutting herself off from her family and ancestors that were waiting for her there.

Minute 1:20 1:25 Killmonger watching Mirabel and Abuela Alma reconcile after so long, and judging Mirabel from his point of view... (Hypothetically, of course) Killmonger: Mirabel is just like T'Challa. She is too noble, she let the old woman who make her feel less live.

The best part of the entire movie

The tensions between these two is wild

I see that killmonger didnt change much in the end did he

I’m still confused as to how burning the herb had something to do with T’Challa death cause he was still the black Panther at the end of the first movie…

he was too noble.

For being criticizable about the potential continuity issues associated with the Ancestral Plane, this scene might be the best in Phase 4. Not only does it force Shuri to question herself, but in the end, it also lets her sympathize with Namor's backstory a little more. "The world took everything away from me! Everything I ever loved!" -Killmonger, Black Panther (2018)

Sins of the fathers. T'challa and Erik were on a collision course. T'challa didn't want to kill family. Erik thought he _had_ to. They were both wrong. Shuri _might_ be able to continue Erik's interventionist policy without descending into Killmonger killfrenzy... By being motivated by compassion instead.

Ryan Coogler just can’t seem to do a feature film without MBJ

You can tell Killmonger's speech comes from him not from him gaining insight on what actually happened from the other ancestral panthers because yeah "T'Challa was too noble" is a lie since T'Challa spent most of Civil War on a quest for revenge against the man who he thought killed his father. It's only when he realized the truth and saw how much revenge had consumed him and how others were being used by it did he decide against it. And hell it was still a struggle at point. Like he was still ready to tear through Klaw when he caught him in the first BP and had to let go of some of that rage.

The amount of mental gymnastics performed in this scene in order to make a sociopath appear magnanimous is both hilarious and sad at the same time.

Did anyone else expect the CGI T’Challa to come and dance on the grave of Chadwick

This is the stuff we like to see from Marvel. Not a bunch of crap jokes injected during terrible dialogue.

One of the best plot twists in this movie

Shruti was right.

If only they kept this part for later, it would’ve made a bigger impact to see why Shuri did what she did in the end, just to be surprised on who exactly did she talk to in the realm.

I love this scene right here. Cause I honestly did not think we were gonna see Killmonger again. He was killed by T’Challa during the first movie in 2018 then 4 years later he unexpectedly appears in this movie during this scene in the spirit area. This has got to be the number one best scene in the movie. 🔥🔥🔥

I think killmonger did meet shuri in the ancestral plane because otherwise he wouldn't talk respectfully of T'Challa and the queen And talk very negatively of the past panthers

I appreciate that Killmonger did not speak ill of his late cousin T'Challa. Even though he said that T'Challa was "too noble", he meant that T'Challa always chose to be the bigger person. He didn't call him soft.

I hate the hate against killmonger in this family, he's family and t'chaka left him in the states alone with no family and then wonder why he's angry and vindictive, he never got the love he should have gotten as a child and they look at him disgust and hatred as if he did something wrong.

Cowards that was panthers that came before me

If he’s in the ancestral plane, I wonder if Killmonger and T’Challa ever hang there together. Besides his dad, N’jdaka hates everyone else (the other panthers) there, whom all would disregard him as an outsider. But T’challa is the only one who understood his cousin’s injustice and pain, as well as having Erik’s respect. In another life (most likely somewhere in the multiverse) they could’ve been like brothers . So it’d be a nice thought that N’jdaka didn’t have to spend his eternal afterlife completely alone

I wished he had lived at the end of the first movie, he could have been another foil much like Loki, often causing trouble but also on occasion serve as an allie

this scene was awesome.

He got that swag man sheeesh

This was good

I felt just as shocked as Shuri the second they showed Killmonger instead of anyone else.

Such a great scene

Shuri definetly gave off Queen of Blades vibes until the end of that last fight

Well he did hand him over to Everett Ross in Civil War But killing is his way, he black panther did not sympathize with Zemo towards the end "I'm done letting it consume me" I feel like this bandanna guard is going to take evil Zeno into custody and maybe get a cameo from Chadwick Bose man This series was meant to be released in August which makes it even emotional She more than likely make an appearance in Episode 5 since the screenwriters said it's going to be a tearjerker unless if they did some re shoots like what they did in divisional St defining Evil unforgibvale Zemo crimes. it is pathetic lord of bake.

When I saw this scene I was hoping that shuri was about to become a dark black panther. Like a combo of t’challa and killmonger.

Those locs Michael had looked very real 😂

Man I wish they did more with killmonger, the entire movie was mehh, but once MBJ showed up it was instantly chills, he was made for the role, best part of the movie for me, some might disagree but aye.

holy shit i didn’t know he’d make an appearance

Look at Kiplinger's spitting out jewels! Mentioning the lost tribes

Way homie says “little cousin”

Why isn’t anyone asking about when Killmonger said “your mother sacrificed her life to save a young girl from a lost tribe” is Riri Wakandan?

Damn, Michael B Jordan is a good actor!

Both the queen and king have similar deaths by explosion and both T’Challa and Shuri have to go on a similar journey deciding what type of black panther they are going to be because of these events.

Creed laying down some verbal smackdown

I wanted tchaka to show up because we never see tchaka and shuri communicate

I got caught Completely off guard when i saw him because i thought she would see T'challa and learn a life lesson of keeping the family's legacy , but That was a great scene tho

Yep, I expect to see Erik Killmonger in Wakanda's version of Hell. If the ancestral plane is Wakanda's version of Heaven depending on the sins of the Wakanda native.

This scene still gives me chills- it's fantastic! Michael B Jordan is brilliant in this scene.

Shuri: How? Killmonger: Since Chadwick Boseman is dead and we can't find any actors to replace him, they got me :)

He had his way but he wasn't entirely wrong from beginning

Shuri met Killmonger becuz her heart currently filled with vengence

craziest scene in the movie fasho

Killomger was right.

My favorite scene in the movie

Kind of reminds me of conversation between Anakin and Ahsoka when she was under

Me : Killmonger is a good villain because all his actions are justifiable and true, T'chaka murdered his father, and could've taken him to Wakanda and use the Wakandan resources J'Nadaka's community, his mother's community, but no, he just left, T'challa was even angry at his own father for what happened. So, everything he said is true- Killmonger : T'challa was too noble. He let the man who murdered your father live. Me :.... get my man's name out youR DAMN MOUTH

Killmonger was my guy in the 1st movie and really wish he was in end game

Are u gonna to be noble like your brother or just take care business like me 😮

She saw Killmonger because of her feelings for revenge

What would happen if Shuri became just like Killmonger? Would she have thrown Namor into a Volcano 🌋 just like how Killmonger threw her brother into the bottom of the waterfalls?

Life after life 👨🏿‍🦱👩🏿‍🦱👼🏿☀️

He was wrong about T'Challa being too noble with Zemo. T'Challa proved to be a good man when he didn't kill Zemo for what he did to "T'Chaka. He didn't want to be noble with Bucky until he found out that Bucky had nothing to do with it and that was when he realized he was wrong.

Moon knight told us that we go to whatever realm we believe in. Since Shuri is an atheist, she did not go to the ancestral plane. This whole sequence is just her dream.

Plot twist kill monger escapes from the underworld like kratos

It is a shame being noble did not save T’Challa.

2:13 "She sacrificed herself to protect that girl from the lost tribe". Hmmm🤔 now I wonder why he said that????

Killmonger evil.

Who doin his retwist in the afterlife 😭

If T'Challa Black Panther won for the third time against someone who wanted the throne, What would happen if he saw Killmonger in the Ancestral Plane?