Thank you

They will be insured, Trade plates only cover road tax and nothing else, they work for BCA who fully insured every vehicle that goes out on the road in their name. Also every vehicle I used to drive had MOT (or was exempt). Basically a set of Trade plates shows the police or DVSA that the vehicle has no road fund licence but is exempt for the purposes of this journey which is either for delivery or for modification (in this case delivery).

The other vehicles most likely are insured hence no trade plates. The trader is the guy with ! The trade plates so he doesn't have to go through the bother of having the vehicle insured an tax the normal way... When those vehicles are delivered am sure the vehicle he was inn will have its own proper documentation when its on the site of delivery

it also may mean two drivers may have been from the company that purchased them and are legally driving on the registered number

Trade plates have nothing to do with insurance

They'll be insured under the business insurance. Trade plates aren't for insurance purposes

I'm a full time truck driver running 800 miles a week

if you drive or not, the other people on the road are expected to drive to a certain standard and the two guys featured in the video are putting both other drivers and passengers at risk the uploader has good reason to be angry since his and the publics safety is being put it risk

You don't need to be able to drive to see how bad these people are driving. I think his 'judgement' is spot on.

probably just an Average car driver, they are the ones who need educating about driving

Nope it's a London ...

Nope - it's all over Britain - it's this present generation - no respect for anyone but themselves.

Can totally relate.

i am sick of car drivers in a national speed limit zone doing 35/40 mph in a 50mph

......... on and on about sodding trade plates innit ?? ON N SODDING ON.........

He is serious. And don't call him Shirley.

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Unless you send a couple of auditors round to the cop shop , they'll soon find plenty of staff with nothing better to do.

The M42 is basically a slow moving carpark and idiots like this only add to the caos.

50 mph , and idiots

That's the way people drive nowadays, too close, too fast, everyone is in a hurry.

That is how idiots in the UK drive. That is why multiple pile-ups happen. Cars nowadays are so safe that people do not recognise danger when it is right in front of their eyes.

I don't drive

I’m confused! If you don’t drive, what qualifies you to comment? The moment they held up traffic and actually spoke to each other was pretty stupid but nothing else I saw would I consider dangerous driving. Pretty mundane stuff. As a professional driver, I see far worse than this on a daily basis.

1:36 he said shot it from the passenger seat

He said from the passenger seat

He said he was in the passenger seat !

And CK is Cardiff plates as well . The trucks come from the Glamorgan area .

Agree. I done a double check on how many vehicles can be driven under 1 pair of trade plates...result came back as only ONE vehicle per trade plate...fine for mis-use of trade plate...£5000....wander if the offending drivers have got overdrafts with there bank accounts.

Can you tell us if they're UK plates? Maybe the lead driver is the only one knows where they're going.

​@flipper2392 Trade Plate E7735 belongs to BCA at Thurleigh Airfield just outside Bedford. I have used that plate myself a few years ago when I did a few jobs for them. They are a shyster Company and all their drivers are self employed and "negotiate" for the work (read that as lowest "bidder" wins the job). I left them in a very short time and went to drive for a much better company that was actually reputable! The way it works with BCA you have to have a driving licence for more than 3 years, have less than 6 points and be over 25 thats all the requirements. All 3 of those drivers would be BCA subbies and will have probably worked together before at some point. They definitely won't be "his mates from the pub helping him out". Also they won't have HGV licences and wont need them for those vehicles as the OP suggested. Those vans are well withing the 3500kg normal driving licence range. All 3 will have been issued with Trade Plates but probably forgot them, they only cover road fund licence anyway nothing else, but they should still be displayed front and rear. I agree these idiots need to at the very least lose their jobs (which they will if the OP sends this to BCA at Thurliegh). BCA won't report this to the police because its in their interests not to as they dont want the police sniffing around their drivers and business practices.

"May-hem." Surely it's mayhem?

You talk about Trade plates all the time , it may have only been the one vehicle that needed them , the other two may have been taxed and registered already , have you checked that ?

they sell passenger seats in some vans now, they aren’t too expensive.

I thought so too, but the rules say not (www.gov.uk/trade-licence-plates/rules) which also say they must be displayed outside the vehicle, so windscreen / back window are a no-no.

No . Trade plates are for road tax cover on different vehicles. Not number plates .

Trade plates are not necessarily needed to cover the existing reg plates ( if any) as long as they are visible front & rear clearly. If you are still unsure try checking the legality of these trade plates & where they are ment to be. I MAYBE wrong on my positioning of them but, please don't take my word i am only going by my last checking of them ( quite some years ago) & things might have changed since. So please don't take my word for it. Do your own checking on it.

Check the rules on DVLA is for displayed on front and back on vehicle so it can be clearly visible. It is for tax and insurance purposes not for registration use.

The law states - How to display your trade plates When you display trade plates, you must: put them on both the front and back of the vehicle, or just the back for motorcycles make them visible and easily readable from a distance of 20 metres put them on the outside of the vehicle not cover the existing number plates, unless it’s a motorcycle

Crime of the century.

They are registered? they have registration plates. Unless the plates are false.

They dont need to be, thats what a trade plate covers, delivering to a garage where they will be sold on.

Not just not taxed, not registered at all. Is this video a spoof or what?

They are more than likely on private plates now or simply those reg numbers have been allocated to the vehicle's but still not registered at dvla.

Because the vehicles are not taxed.

Because one had trade plates everyone is assuming the rest of them do.

Yes where I work when moving chassis on the public we have to put temporary wings on them.

These are brand new chassis cabs on the way to have a flatbed / tipper / buck or whatever fitted. The actual vehicles are roadworthy , it is the drivers that are not.

These are brand new chassis cabs. They're being delivered to a coachworks to have the rear bodies fitted. Once the body is on the wheels are covered. In this instance the police would take no notice. Its a non endorsable offence anyway...

i believe they are legal but i believe these vans would’ve been going somewhere to get a box or bed put on the back as opposed to a typical van body

After a quick google search, i discovered that If its going to have bodywork built on the chassis, in the c&u regs, there is an exception for - unfinished vehicles or trailers proceeding for completion

They are obviously brand new and not finished yet, trucks normally have truck beds or box bodies on the back, they are going to some fabrocators to be finished then registered when they have buyer sorted.. the plates though, shouldn't have been made before the registration is complete, I guess companies know the plate numbers that DVLA gave them so.can print them early, but that's probs a breach in itself..

Because they are on delivery.

I am glad you submitted the footage to the police .

Excellent, hope they'll do something about it, as that sort of behaviour can cost lives of innocent road users.

There will be no investigation sorry too busy catching people with phones easy money

😂😂😂

Tbf I've been on them buses, if it's not the public it's the road users!!! Said for a long time I wouldn't for love nor money drive buses in Birmingham or London....... 4 lives a days an understatement!!!

Should do really so surprised their on the road.

These are brand new vans which haven't had the coach works fitted so it's fine for them to travel like that for fitment etc.

Only if it starts raining.

i thought so yes

Not on trade plates; otherwise nothing would get delivered.

That’s because they’re chassis being delivered to a coachbuilder. The registration probably won’t be completed until the van boxes are fitted.

KENT

They’re delivery drivers, delivering chassis from the dealer to a coach builder. And probably employees of the coach builder

No, vehicles on trade plates must also be insured and have valid MOTs (although these 3 are new so not due MOTs yet). the plate merely covers an exemption from road tax.

It only covers road tax not Insurance so not really a huge deal with missing trade plates. The police would take zero notice..

I always thought that having trade plates meant you are a trader so you're covered under the traders insurance 🤷🏻‍♂️

Trade plates have nothing to do with insurance, it’s purely vehicle road fund. ( tax)

Trade plates are for tax purposes only

Trade plates are only to cover Tax, not insurance; part of the registration process for new vehicles will include the first year's road tax, so it is reasonable to assume that these new, registered vehicles are in fact taxed, even if the DVLA database hasn't yet been updated.

Not so. These vehicles are most likely to be going to a commercial bodyworks and as such do not need to be taxed to be moved on trade plates. The trade plate companies pay the tax for the use of the plates. It is most likely the two vehicles drivers have trade plates, but have been to idle to display them. The DVLA database will be updated when the new keeper receives the vehicles, taxed and ready for use. The new keeper receives the first V5 certificate (the Log Book).

Incorrect, if being driven direct to a body builder for completion work on chassis it is legal.

It’s a chassis cab if it’s going to have the body fitted then it’s legal to drive this way

Not necessarily. The Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986 section 63 (h) provides an exemption for unfinished vehicles to be driven (legally) on a road without spray suppression (mudguards).

Every busybody’s a bloody expert. And not one of them wonders why THREE identically coloured vans with no rear bodywork are being driven in convoy. They ain’t got the sense they were born with! 😂

What the?

Abolished in 1937. Nobody pays road tax. Roads are paid for from general taxation. I'm a cyclist I pay 3x VED for my vehicles. A Tesla pays zero VED.

There's no such thing as road tax you berk

Don't be silly. Road Tax was abolished in the 1930s. The roads are now maintained from a pot that we all pay into, cyclists and pedestrians included.

How do those relate?

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