Sidechain Compression for Kick and Bass

Sidechain Compression for Kick and Bass | Logic Pro X Tutorial

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Күн бұрын

Sound engineers HATE this ONE SIMPLE TRICK to...actually, no they don't. It's pretty great and they use it all the time! In this tutorial we’re going to look at how using sidechain compression with your kick and bass tracks using Logic Pro's built-in compressor can clean up the low end of your mix and prevent frequency masking!* This method can also be applied to other DAWs and compressor plug-ins of choice as long as they support external side-chain inputs.
0:00 - Introduction & Overview
2:02 - Pre-Sidechain Listening
2:53 - Setting up Kick Track as Trigger
4:55 - Setting up Compressor on Bass Track
6:23 - Adjusting Parameters for Compressor
8:16 - A/B Comparison
* Because this video focuses primarily on taming low-end frequencies, it may be easier to hear the full impact of this effect by listening to this video with either headphones or studio monitors!
Remember, the guidelines I covered in this tutorial (relating to attack, release, ratio, and threshold settings in the compressor) may not work identically for your own music, so use your EARS when mixing and adjust to WHAT SOUNDS BEST!
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@SamMulligan Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I've been trying to learn how to do this for a while now, and your video is the most straightforward and clearest resource I've found. Nice work!

@MartinDHayes 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the clear cut video on Sidechain for Kick and Bass. Nice diagrams and explanations. Thank you!

@MegalocefaloBill 2 жыл бұрын

Oh man the pre fader bus and the no out put settings made my day. Nobody is talking about it in other channels. Glad I found your channel. Definitely subscribing 🙏🏽

@DonnyNSN Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jake. Out of the dozen or so vids I looked at, yours makes the most sense to me. Now, that I've done it, it's not so bad, but I'll have to go back and re-do some of older mixes (again). Cheers.

@JoshMathewsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

Best side chain tutorial I've seen on KZfaq.

@blakealford9608 10 ай бұрын

Hands down best explanation on this technique that I’ve found.

@rafbass Жыл бұрын

8:38 that look you do to the camera speaks for itself! The happiness of an audio engineer expressed in a look! Hahaha

@alexnavarrete3341 2 жыл бұрын

very solid video. really helped me understand sidechaining and some unexpected compressor info. also the music is giving me some heavy The Warriors vibe I love it!

@giacintomantovani2993 Жыл бұрын

Awesome, I have watched many videos on this subject and yours was by far the best. I wish I found this clip sooner. Thanks. You have a new subscriber.

@paulgioia9730 Ай бұрын

Brilliant tutorial mate. Thank you

@InFamousProductions Жыл бұрын

Jake, I just found your channel. And I've been trying to wrap my head around side chain for a long time, and you made is so easy to understand, and giving some compression start points Is so great. I feel this topic is not really expressed enough , because your demo was night and day on the kick/bass . great job and thanks.

@mattwright466 2 ай бұрын

FANTASTIC tight, simple tutorial. Put this on my latest track and it totally brought the bass to life! Thank you :-)

@VOLTIJmusic 6 ай бұрын

really clear and straightforward explanation - thanks

@JanelNabong 2 жыл бұрын

Such an awesome tutorial, helped me so much, thank you! Liked and subbed!

@kervondebisette6740 Жыл бұрын

Gold info. great tutorial bro thank you. All the way from Trinidad.

@amberbanduk 23 күн бұрын

Great stuff man thank you!

@zackreyes6619 Жыл бұрын

Very Helpful video! good job man!:)

@sonofsheepdog 3 жыл бұрын

Very clear and concise, thanks!

@praisenationkids 3 жыл бұрын

thank you for this - you got right to the point and showed us how to get it done! I didn't waste 30 min. of my time only to not really find anything at all. Finally a great tutorial!

@jakethomsonaudio 3 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate it!! I try not to waste anyone’s time 😂

@praisenationkids 3 жыл бұрын

@@jakethomsonaudio sure thing! Good vid.

@StanAlien Жыл бұрын

very helpful! thanx

@boscojohnny8980 Жыл бұрын

honestly you have been a great help to me, i am from kenya in africa i really appreciate everything

@lozmusic4421 Жыл бұрын

great video, really helpful!!!

@ashthereverseflash 2 ай бұрын

This was so helpful in 2024!

@georgedownesmedia Жыл бұрын

I just clicked subscribe when you were on 999. I feel epic. Thanks for the tutorial bro!

@benyaeast4741 2 жыл бұрын

THanks heaps mate 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

@jakestoneshow Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video. My name is Jake Stone and I subscribed to your channel. I appreciate your videos a lot.

@michjackfan1534 2 жыл бұрын

damn this really helped me a lot. I've been doing it wrong this whole time (well, not as efficient as this lol). TYSM~✨

@sisinn8437 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man ! :)

@chief_bin9544 Жыл бұрын

Dope Vid Bro Thx

@Scarliner Жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot! :)

@shredie8957 2 жыл бұрын

Dude preciate!

@vewilli 3 жыл бұрын

👍🏻👏🏻💪🏻 Very interesting. Never heard of it. I‘ll try to apply this to my newest song.

@MichaelSydneyJones 11 ай бұрын

Thank you! 😊

@jamescrutchfield65 2 жыл бұрын

fantastic!!!!!!!!!!

@kayejeyeracer 2 жыл бұрын

J!! Dude...You R The 1!! Thanks Man!🤓😎👏🖖🤙✌

@genosatino4563 3 жыл бұрын

now I understand how this works...thanks man

@jakethomsonaudio 3 жыл бұрын

Great to hear Geno, thanks for watching!!

@blurg7030 3 жыл бұрын

nice vid

@ViniciusBuscacio 3 жыл бұрын

thank you

@johnviera3884 8 ай бұрын

this is the right way to do it.

@MarContrerasmusic 7 ай бұрын

thanks :)

@ThomasDJTomcatPerez14 8 ай бұрын

im all late to the party but thanks for this clear video on how to use side chain! I was always so confused about it but I tried it and it sounds great! now Is sidechaining something to do to other tracks? or is it primarily for kick n bass?

@j.e.b.206 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, Jake! Question: I noticed you didn't click on the 'side chain' button at the top right of the compressor. What would be the difference with having that selected vs output (as you have it in this video)? Thanks

@jakethomsonaudio 3 жыл бұрын

That's true, I didn't really go over the options that Logic offers when you click the "side chain" button, but when you do click that button it gives you more control over the sidechain detection, including different highpass/lowpass EQ filters that allow you to fine-tune the frequency range of the sidechain detection. So for example if you wanted the sidechain trigger to be focused only on the deep low-end of the kick, you could adjust the filter so that the bass ducks whenever that specific frequency range pokes through. I believe the default setting compresses your track based on the full frequency range of the trigger (if you make no adjustments to the sidechain menu).

@jeramybearamy8539 3 ай бұрын

What happens if you set the sidechain trigger as a pre-fade input instead of sending to the aux/mix bus? Can you pick pre-fader for the input (channel) trigger, or is it a post-fader trigger at that point?

@im_rick_james Жыл бұрын

Is there a difference with running the side chain directly to the kick track versus a kick bus?

@marlongasparotto5867 Жыл бұрын

WOW, just followed this tutorial and copied most of the compressor settings for a Techno tune I've been making. Instantly my kick is coming through so much more and not driving my master levels right up! Just one question, why do you send the kick to a bus first, then select the bus from the sidechain option in the compressor? I usually just select the main kick channel to directly trigger the compressor. Thanks :)

@ElGDONCRUZ 2 ай бұрын

Why are there other video that say to send the comp on the bass to a buss and use the sidechain button on the comp

@AMNOR 19 күн бұрын

What if you have a bigger project, having too many compressor plugin just for side chaining is not gonna eat up too much of cpu?

@hakonsand6553 2 жыл бұрын

Very nice video! But when i follow your tutorial my bass gets so low i cant hear it in the chorus. But in the verses it is very loud.

@MeloGbeats 8 ай бұрын

🐐🐐

@javiiig 3 жыл бұрын

this was by far very good use of tutorials especially for logic ! quick question , for the side chain kick , how do I select the "pre fader" section ? if it doesn't let me chose any of em. I know it has to do with something in settings but im completely lost :/

@jakethomsonaudio 3 жыл бұрын

Make sure you've already set up a bus in the "send" region of your channel strip, once you've done that you should be able to click where it says "Bus 1" (or whatever number bus it is) and select "post pan", "post fader", or "pre fader" from the dropdown menu. Hope that helps, thanks!

@javiiig 3 жыл бұрын

@@jakethomsonaudio okay I think that’s where I was lost , do you have an insta I can dm you on ? cause on my screen those options are disabled for me . It lets me choose the bus but still isn’t enabled. how do I do the send region ?

@StratsRUs 2 жыл бұрын

Is this always entirely separate from EQ ? Thanks , I'm just using the eq pocket thing but not entirely sure.

@johnviera3884 8 ай бұрын

But what is the harm in doing post fader? If the kick is not present in the mix then there’s no need to duck the bass

@Crazy3189 Жыл бұрын

my output on the kick is gray and not blue. I can't change the pre\post fader settings. anyone know what options i need to change?

@Dogaocak Жыл бұрын

you have to hold the button down for a bit

@texatexa 5 ай бұрын

I want it the other way round, it's for bad bass players: when the kick hits, then the bass must sound. When the kick does not hit, then the bass must be silent. How do you do that?

@winnyjstew 3 жыл бұрын

How do you record you screen? I have a 2012 Mac Pro ...

@claynivore 3 жыл бұрын

Go to quicktime player> file> New screen recording.

@aoldatabase548 2 жыл бұрын

not sure if you are still working on this track but im watchin this video in 1.5X speed and its such a banger at that tempo!

@jakethomsonaudio 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I kinda put this track on the back burner but I’ll take your suggestion and throw some varispeed on it!! 😂

@aoldatabase548 2 жыл бұрын

@@jakethomsonaudio hell yeah! also great video its helped me big time!

@2.22.hz. 3 жыл бұрын

question, what is the benefit of doing pre-fader vs post fader when sending to bus? thank you!

@jakethomsonaudio 3 жыл бұрын

Hi there! So the reason I sent the kick to the "Kick Bus" with a pre-fader send (instead of post-fader) is that no matter how much I decide to change the volume of the kick later in the mix, the pre-fader send routes a consistent level to the "Kick Bus" that won't be affected by any volume fader adjustments in the original kick track. And because the "Kick Bus" is only acting as a trigger for the compressor's sidechain function, we will turn off its output so that we're not hearing the audio from the bus (think of it as a muted copy-and-paste of the kick track, simply acting as a sidechain trigger). Sorry if my response was long-winded, let me know if that makes sense! Thanks for the question! :)

@2.22.hz. 3 жыл бұрын

@@jakethomsonaudio perfect! thank you for such thorough explanation, i completely understand it now. keep posting! wishing you much success and great abundance 🌌

@jakethomsonaudio 3 жыл бұрын

So glad to hear it! I’ll definitely be making more vids, thanks for watching! 🙏

@rasmussavic4289 2 жыл бұрын

Hi man. I decided to try this and made a new project with only two tracks, a lead instrument and a kick. Once i get to exactly 3:13 in the video, where you're gonna chose Pre-fader, i fail. Nothing happens when i click the little arrows to get the dropdown menu. It doesn't let me click it. Any advice? Still, great tutorial.

@Dogaocak Жыл бұрын

you have to hold the button down for a bit

@AfiScruggsplaysbass Жыл бұрын

Thanks. I have a quick question. Do I have to convert sidechain source midi to audio in order to side chain? I've seen some tutorials that say side chaining doesn't work with a midi source.

@jakethomsonaudio Жыл бұрын

As long as your midi source is actually creating an audio signal (such as a midi note playing a kick sample) you can use a midi track as the input source for the side chain; and if you route it into a non-output aux track as I did in this video it will act as a side chain trigger at a consistent level without being sent to the main outs.

@AfiScruggsplaysbass Жыл бұрын

@@jakethomsonaudio Thanks a lot.

@amanrelaxes 3 жыл бұрын

Bruh. Thanks.

@user-py5fk9ot8o 7 ай бұрын

so many clicks it takes, but logic UI looks cool

@adrianhall9752 3 жыл бұрын

So when I bounce to mix, what do I do with the AUX track? Sorry if this is a really basic stupid question.

@jakethomsonaudio 3 жыл бұрын

When you say “bounce to mix”, do you mean when bouncing individual tracks to mix down in another project?

@adrianhall9752 3 жыл бұрын

@@jakethomsonaudio once I am happy with the arrangement, I bounce and replace all tracks so everything is audio. But there is no aux track to bounce,?

@jakethomsonaudio 3 жыл бұрын

Gotcha, so since the aux track is only acting as a trigger for the side chain, just make sure when you bounce the bass track (or whatever is being compressed by the trigger) that the side chain compression is working. I believe if you solo both the bass track and the kick aux track, once you bounce that it should retain the compression. Besides that there’s no reason to bounce the aux track on its own because it’s set to “no output”. Hope that helps, thanks!

@adrianhall9752 3 жыл бұрын

@@jakethomsonaudio Great, that works. Thanks so much