I can't wait to get the new champion in 10 years and 5 primal shards

I was very excited for Clan Siege, but the rewards are the new standard of low and not worth any sort of stress that would come from playing this mode.

Nubs, Please push for us to be able to attack our clanmates defenses during siege prep to test our clans defenses, and see who has the best teams for our stronghold.

Our clan is just chucking random defences in anywhere. We don't have the communication to organise anything anyway so it is what it is. After a round or two we'll presumably start getting paired with other disorganised clans, too, so it'll all even out to a level, much like Hydra Clash does. I doubt more than the top1% of clans will take it seriously, though, the rest simply don't have the communication tools cos Raid apparently don't feel communication is important in the game (which is kinda wasn't until now, other than the obvious of getting to know clan mates, giving advice etc)

Nub i would go check Saph's video on how utterly pointless this is for all but 1% of the player base

I dont get all the people complaing about everything new Plarium adds to the game. The game can still be played like 5 years ago. Nobody is forcing anyone to do all the stuff available. If nothing else, it's still free rewards and something new to try, if you get bored of farming campaign, arena, demon lord and dungeons.

There is a chance my clan leader isn't active enough to manage siege. There has never been a deputy in my clan.

Yea I'm gonna sit this one out. I want to see the inevitable, absolutely terrible implementation and no dount issues, and subsequent "fixes" or adjustments that will arise and be (hopefully) addressed before even thinking about taking part.

"we could not test any thing on the test server " 🤣🤣

Nub seems to be the only person excited for this.. I guess he hasn’t seen the math breakdown on how long it takes to get everything. Or maybe he wants to play this mode for the next 20 years to get something.. I don’t know…

Have you seen the loot tables for the rewards? They are rly bad…

This video is a perfect example of what most people are saying about this new game mode...TIME-SINK...! You just spent over 30 minutes talking and thinking about how to play this new game mode, by yourself, and you aren't even getting 29 other opinions or input yet. Try organizing all your defenses and attacks, who donates orbs, who spends orbs, which special ability do we activate, who has a team that can beat a certain defense, when do we actually set defenses and attacks, and then tell me again, like in yesterday's video, how this shouldn't be too intrusive on your time. LMAO

Nubs! You can set AI! It’s called Team Set up!

I have a ton of questions that they don't seem to answer when reading through. 1. Are there 2 starting points? Posts 2 and 5 look like 2 gates to the city. 2. Are florins and mana capped and do they carry over if you leave the clan. Do you get them back if you donate and leave the clan? 3. Do the buffs stay if the particular building is not destroyed or do you have to purchase a buff each time? 4. If you have to purchase buffs each time since this is Wait Shadow Legends should you just hoard florins and mana?

I think sharing a live snapshot of your account on HH Optimizer is by far easier than a spreadsheet. This is going to be a nightmare for the leadership of clans.

The stronghold bonus applies to all building on that layer. Magic tower bonuses apply to the buildings that are connected to it by a path.

still only doing 2 battles a day in Cursed City, zero battles in Shogun, ever. and maybe 5 battles in Sand Devil since it opened, maybe 10 battles in Live Arena, ever, still never finished Doom Tower Hard in any rotation, still have zero battles in all Dungeons Hard level......and I play on a Daily Basis FTP, anyone else see the problem here. I have about 50 champs at level 50 that need ranking up, and about 30 level 60 that need Masteries, let alone upgrading and ascending gear, (oh and that's with crappy gear). How am I suppose to have the time, energy, champs, gear, etc. to even do anything new?? It took me 2 years to get a void leggo from a shard, and yet somehow I'm suppose to care about what new champ is "meta", that's laughable.

My only comment about donating all the florins is if your buildings do go down and everyone donates you will not get to use boosts next time if you don't get enough florins for the repairs.

i "rushed into it" it s just a game it will work out on the long way anyway ;)

I just told my clan to throw in their normal arena defense or offense and save. Don’t make it like a second job and have fun. Well never ever get the new champ being at tier 1 for another 4-7 years if we win all siege lol. Such a bad rewards system. They truly only want 1% of players to get this champ. At least Carange is there within a year or two not completing everything.

man im not glad to hear the guilds will instantly be in tier 6, it just gives the krakens even more advantages, and it makes me feel like i have to leave my clan now if i want any chance at progressing my account, the gear sets and primals/mythical books would alone be worth that bc lets be honest tier one is fucking terrible joke. we arent early game at all its just even tier 2 needs 2,5+ mill points in cvc and most people arent super active and only play raid all weekend long, like my clan has many end game players with 10mil+ power, i dont feel like leaving at all but now it feels like i have to leave just bc of the shit rewards i would get. pretty sure we would have had decent chance of competing in hier tiers too. this fucking sucks. the cvc rewards were really not that bad to miss out, bc we also got personal rewards so if i wanted to push i could earn most of what kraken clans could myself as well. this fucking sucks, ofc the content creators who are all only in tier 6 couldnt care less. but this is a real problem and super fucking unfair, one shouldnt exclude people from getting needed rewards just based on being in the right guild wtf

I've seen you say twice that you can't setup the AI skills but when you click to add a def in the top left corner it says team setup in there you can set the ai of saved teams. don't know if you missed this but it would be helpful to let people know.

All of your comments should be understood to be prefaced with, "IF your Clan is participating." The thing that everyone should realize is, if you don't set the minimum number of defenses, you won't have to concern yourself with this worthless new game mode. It IS funny that Siege battles don't count as Arena battles--when Siege is just an overly complicated Arena without any rewards.

This mode is so frustrating for leaders who does not have all members in discord... They made most coop needed game mode, gave no ingame tools to communicate, gave no means for leaders to cancel members defence or approve suggested teams. No ways for leader to say hey you fill this spot. Unless your clan is super into game as all is on discord is such a pain, that i fell I want to disband clan 😂😂😂 ofc I wont. And try to work around, but this is bs 😂😂😂

You can set AI for the defense team.

Hh gaming says these rewards are the worse hes ever seen in this game i wish that it wasnt copy and paste from classic again its like a tag arena all over again like cursed is fw just a little Different

please.. What buffs should a leader use in siege? Is it all combat? Or is it for arena only?

You can use team AI, it's the top left when selecting champs

Uhoh "impossible to test on the test server." CCs have given the best stress testing of everything Raid has offered so far. Let's see what interesting 'features' come to light....

I thought I was out, I have a very small clan and I in the prep mode. I'm the Leader and Dep, 2 accounts. Let's see how this works out.

Since the rewards are so terrible, it would be great if everyone just didn't put in any defense to let all the clans win. Either everyone will just get rewards or Plarium will notice and want to make a change to the system in regard to rewards.

I was put as siege coordinator for my clan and it is SO much work.

If you can't set presets the mythicals can't change form! That won't get great for defense teams!

Yo. Waiting for more info and possible fixes on Siege

Give the new mode chance to breathe jeez , already bad feedback from people

i think the conditions only apply to your enemy team. You can put whatever champs you want in there for defense, but enemy team would have to use banner lords only when attacking your post, which makes it much harder for them to destroy it.

Lyssandra was right there lol. she the new speed queen in siege

Whoops I donated all to clan leader loI

Looking at the rewards for 1 time every 2 weeks it's really not even worth playing unfortunately. Also you have to win to get anything and you won't win every time.

I'm fairly sure mythicals count as thier base form as what can be used.

Conditions for my post 12 are different - HP, DEF & ATK champs

Its shit, just say it and the reward system is even more shit....

That counter atk bonus negates the accessories,that's strong af

The siege page has new music

It appears you can’t set skill presets so many defense teams are going to be derpy at best.

Nub you can do presets, just click on team setup. You have me screaming at the video at this point...😂

I'm a clan leader but it's only level 2 and I have lower level players... I'll guess I'll just wait haha

It looks really interesting. Rewards are terrible but removes pressure from first run & can't see them staying like that.

cant even do the in game stuff at the moment! 🥴

where is the link to that Excel Spreadheeet??

The only way to get a competitive group is to spend hundreds of dollars. Good luck otherwise it takes years. Game blows.

There is a team set up button…

Can you use duplicates in siege?

Tier 5 rewards being worse than tier 4... 🤡

If we hate arena and will never wear that gear. Is there a point to doing Siege?

not gonna bother until they tripple the rewards, to much work to enguage with the new game mode

My question is - Arena Auras did not work on siege Teams Right?

Picked defence,donated everything. Couldn't care less about it

Spend. Dont spend. In both cases u get nothing. Skip

Confusing and no interest in figuring it out

This is not great unless we have a way of testing our clanmates defenses

Helo there, Arbiter :)

I honestly think this mode is going to fail miserably among the 99% in terms of years it’ll take to collect 100 fragments at tier 1. If they made this a pve mode, then we have an actual game mode. This being PvP is going to cause chaos.

Siege is only to win that Arena gear?? So Siege is pointless if we hate Arena??

If all of these orbs and mana aren't going to be free its going to be a total whalefest! basically everyone in your clan is a F2p your doomed to never be able to participate. Or it will create tension in the clans if F2P players don't contribute bc they don't want to spend.

Siege is live dont rush dont bother its shyteroooooooooo

This pvp cvc is a easy skip for me. Terrible rewards and complicated layout that is going to destroy a lot of guilds

Nub-Arbiter😂

How is it you missed "Team Setup" two days in a row lmao

IKEMEN Fenax 　💦

This game mode is utterly pointless, don't do it and save yourself some stress

mmm not interested yet, i didnt even finished the faction wars

Too late

Definitely not going to bother until the rewards are worth our time ... Jesus Christ these are pathetic

This mode is a complete skip for me. I don't want the champion, I don't want the new artifact set, and I don't want any of the lack luster rewards. Swing and a miss Plarium.

yasmine

Kaja armanz Timit and staltus being called a budget team makes me want to quit this game with the teams I’m working with lmao this is alllll kraken talk

too late lol

there's no point in your face being in this

siege is shit

This game mode looks dope raid community is so trash. Hell hades trues his best to maks it toxic. Mode looks fine rewards arent great but they can be changed lol raid community something else

Its terrible comes down to speed just like pvp this is complete trash junk fing game

Another update of total garbage

I just told my clan to throw in their normal arena defense or offense and save. Don’t make it like a second job and have fun. Well never ever get the new champ being at tier 1 for another 4-7 years if we win all siege lol. Such a bad rewards system. They truly only want 1% of players to get this champ. At least Carange is there within a year or two not completing everything.