SIG Spear LT (Gen 3 MCX) to 500yds: Practical Accuracy

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The Sig Spear LT has been riddled with doubt and skepticism in the firearms community, whether it's the price tag, or the quick-change barrel system, there is no shortage of doubt on this platform...
So how does a brand new "out of the box" SIG Spear LT do on our course? We find out!
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@bradhaines3142 2 ай бұрын

'thats the sweet sig you need the saur sig' my god that line was great.

@ftn5546 2 ай бұрын

Takeaways: Some SIG MCX Spear LT 556 shoot well. Some SIG MCX Spear LT 556 shoot poorly. All SIG MCX Spear LT 556 have a significantly higher MSRP than nearly every AR-15, apart from Knights Armament SR-15. All SIG MCX Spear LT 556 are non-standard piston AR-15 variants that weigh more overall than standard comparable AR-15s and that weight is forward of the magazine well. Some SIG MCX Spear LT 556 seem to have handguard flex that may be unacceptable for LAM, CNVD, and/or COTI users. All SIG MCX Spear LT 556 come with non-adjustable fixed length stock with a length of pull that is not suitable for most average American males. The SIG MCX Spear LT 556 does have a folding stock and can be fired when folded. I feel that all of the drawbacks to the SIG, most importantly its cost, outweigh its few advantages over the AR-15. URG-I is my choice.

@oso1165 2 ай бұрын

Over gassed, over weight, over priced, just like every other wonder ar18 clone that was supposed to dethrone the ar15 Decades ago stoner designed the ar18 as a budget alternative, not an upgrade, but people will trip over themselves to drop 3k$ on a 416/Scar/Mcx ... 😂

@rman713 2 ай бұрын

But it looks cool

@ftn5546 2 ай бұрын

😂

@jonhurley7889 2 ай бұрын

Sop mod block 2 is the goat

@kobeh6185 2 ай бұрын

Thats why i chose the BRN-180 and built it exactly how I wanted to. It gives me all the things I wanted, for cheaper, and with greater compatibility with the AR-15.

@mrkeogh 2 ай бұрын

SIG Neuhausen: I HAVE NO SON 🤨

@AJohnSmith Ай бұрын

“I’ve abondoned my boy! I’ve abandoned my child!”

@nyarlatothep666 2 ай бұрын

I think we reached the peak of evolution in regards to firearms. You can spend millions in developing a new service rifle, and, in the end, it will only be marginally "better" than proven guns like the AR15, AR18 and AK, but for a way higher cost.

@Borderline5440 2 ай бұрын

We are definitely at the point of diminishing returns in regards to this type of rifle. I am glad to see piston guns become far more prevalent.

@matthewconnor5483 2 ай бұрын

Yes. The AR-15 and AK are so mature at this point that anything "better" then those is stupid expensive or makes significent sacrifices to be better in certain aspects. And if I'm given a fixed budget to equip an army I don't see the value in any of these newer platforms when you can buy twice as many M4s with add-ons for what sig and others are changing.

@ninja393 2 ай бұрын

This. Getting that last 10% is logarithmically expensive. 80% good is best.

@frostblasts 2 ай бұрын

Indeed, unless there are breakthroughs in metallurgy and propellants, AKs and Ars pretty much more than good enough.

@geoechidna 2 ай бұрын

Even crazier is that NONE of these designs are remotely new. The AK is basically a massively improved and streamlined M1 Garand that’s upside down, the M4 is based on a design from the ‘50s, and even the “newest”, the AR-18, is basically using the same gas system from the SVT-38/40 designed in the late ‘30s. The only real “innovation” I’ve seen this century is improvements in polymer receivers, and even then this is a “what’s the point” kind of thing that I personally wouldn’t take over aluminum or even stamped steel. I genuinely wonder if we’ll still be seeing AKs and ARs in 200 years. It seems like these are the evolutionary dead ends of firearms design and maybe that’s okay. 😂

@sapperstyle57 2 ай бұрын

Actual Spear LT 11.5 owner here. Had the "bendy barrel" problem, turned out to be loose handguard screws. Tightened those to spec as well as barrel clamp screws. Accuracy was crap, 5-6 MOA. Had to turn the gas system to " + " to get it to function in temps below 30F. Had to use the " + " gas setting after firing more than four magazines. Noticed rail was really dirty. Found that the gas block was loose. It went back to Sig. Sig replaced the barrel and test fired it. They do have good CS. I had the Spear back in 4 days. They sent the test fire targets as well. I have only done a test fire so far. Planning to do more testing this weekend. I do still like the Spear. Its just going to take some time and ammo to verify the problems are resolved.

@jb7483 2 ай бұрын

Total opposite I have the sbr 3.5 acog on it and I can group 2in at 100 yard. The 16in I owned I sold and was less accurate. I have the arisaka clamp and it was torqued to spec. Sorry you had the opposite experience. I also run the new sig can, and there is zero shift of poi.

@FXIIBeaver 2 ай бұрын

That is some PSA QC.

@skinwalkerhiddenvalleyranch 2 ай бұрын

PSA qc at HK prices

@MrCashewkitty 2 ай бұрын

Sig thanks you for your beta testing service

@Starless85 2 ай бұрын

You better have good CS when you have shit QC.

@joshmeads 2 ай бұрын

Would love to see this test with the Sig Spear in 277 Fury!

@CheekRunner 2 ай бұрын

trash rod

@marcgastright4882 2 ай бұрын

M7 accuracy tests have been done. Haven't watched this in a while but from what I remember, it can keep up with an LMT in 6.5 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aLWnd7qqtczSlJc.html&pp=ygUec3BlYXIgbG10IDE0LjUgbG9uZyByYW5nZSB0ZXN0

@Clockwork0nions 2 ай бұрын

@@CheekRunner Is that what the girls at the local bar call you?

@matthewconnor5483 2 ай бұрын

But only if they use the unicorn AP ammo that doesn't seem to actually exist.

@sgthl 2 ай бұрын

Agreed, it should be with the real bimetal high-pressure ammo. It´s probably not a coincidence that SIG USA doesn´t let anyone actually test that configuration. With all the money they are throwing on their advertising and social media guys money sure isn´t the problem.

@SkunkCreekRanch Ай бұрын

This is what I always appreciate. Rifles always grouped to what they do versus shooting three rounds and proclaiming it sub MOA. For the relative little I shoot carbines, a 2-2.5” gun is going to be more than sufficient for most any purpose.

@brrrt7623 2 ай бұрын

The fact that the MP5 was still trying to be "killed" by competitors 50 YEARS after it hit the scene, really speaks to the genius behind the design and all that. 1965 the MP5 was released and it is still the bar to which everything in that sphere is judged.

@blackout.ghost718 2 ай бұрын

Meh

@jeremygrbj4745 2 ай бұрын

The Mp5 has been an outdated platform for A LONG time. 1993 was when it was getting dropped by many SF groups when its failure in combat was seen during African operations. The US Seals kept using them for a while because of how well they worked for water interdiction. Its very smooth to shoot and still fun to use but it hasn't been cutting edge in combat for a long time. The mp5 was fielded in special uses during GWOT when trying to maintain a lower profile.

@johnher4946 2 ай бұрын

A LRBHO and modernized rails are the only improvements to be made. The former isn't that important for a gun rarely deployed in a situation that needs speedy reloads, and the latter didn't get started until SMGs were beginning to get obsolete. The MP5 has been killed effectively by the proliferation of SBRs.

@zackalba442 2 ай бұрын

@@jeremygrbj4745outdated and kicking ass. I mean holy fuck how many agencies world wide use it?? Still to this day. Yall just cock suckers who hate on any gun.

@zackalba442 2 ай бұрын

@@johnher4946you say killed as if HK still ain’t making and shipping them to countries all over the world including us based agencies. Crazy. Think before you speak dog

@mattwhite7421 2 ай бұрын

You should do Bloke's 1 MOA all day long challenge with the URGI.

@spenser5762 2 ай бұрын

That IMI ammo has an extreme spread of over 100FPS and an SD in the high 20’s in all my recent experience. Not surprised it missed low and then was dead center with no change in POA

@great_deception 2 ай бұрын

Boggles my mind how people are using IWI ammo in ANY accuracy test.

@sebastiantran1266 2 ай бұрын

Depending on the barrel, I guess. I’ve got 100+ ES on my SR-15 14.5” in all 3 different grains, but they all perform pretty good on my both Geissele and the Spear LT, under 40 ES, especially the M855 with under 30 ES.

@NickBlazer-cf1vs 2 ай бұрын

@@great_deception ? Why? Do tell.

@Matthew-zb3iw 2 ай бұрын

@@NickBlazer-cf1vs bad accuracy, made by bad actors 🤮

@great_deception 2 ай бұрын

@@NickBlazer-cf1vs You'll figure it out.

@meanman6992 2 ай бұрын

I can swap all that stuff out too, with two captured pins…. On my AR…. Pop pop, slap other configuration of upper on, snap snap, done.

@FXIIBeaver 2 ай бұрын

Almost like stoner knew what was up.

@mavrikmavrik3032 2 ай бұрын

I agree with everything you said. As a 16” rifle mine sat in my safe for 6 months and never made any range trips. Eventually I decided to convert it to a shorter barrel. After a cost analysis I couldn’t really justify a new 11/11.5 inch barrel. Ultimately I had my 16” barrel cut down to around 12” and had a sig suppressor P&W to the end of it (the machining and P&W was still less than half the cost of a new barrel). Now the OAL is just over 16” and the rifle shoots very well. I changed out the selector, handguard, trigger, stock and a few other things. It’s heavy but at least it makes the range days now.

@MrWadeant 2 ай бұрын

A random question guys: Have you considered doing the Tikka T3 Arctic that the Canadian Rangers use? A very interesting modern bolt gun specifically designed with iron sites? (Maybe even a run off between the Tikka and a Long Branch .303 No.4 Mk I* as their current and past service rifles. Great Video though guys, keep up the good work!

@TheWolvesCurse 2 ай бұрын

the disappointment in Henrys face, when Josh took watchmakers finest from his hands and gave him garborod 2000 instead. xD

@jamesgunnyreed 2 ай бұрын

For a while after the Marine Corps went with the HK-416 based M27, and then all the hype over the NGSW (XM5, M5, XM7, M7 whatever they are on now) and basically this rifle, I was set on getting a piston gun. After a few years of putting it off, NOT willing to spend $2000 + on something that weighs more than an AR, doesn't really perform any better, I realize I am perfectly happy with the good ole AR platform.

@perspicacity89 2 ай бұрын

Great video, thank you.

@SuspiciousGanymede 2 ай бұрын

3 generations of a $2500 rifle to fix the recoil assembly, SIG perfection 😉

@Gaspard129 2 ай бұрын

This is the real problem with Sig. They beta test with their customers and offer zero transparency on issues, changes, or generational updates. They could build the best rifle/pistol in the world and I would never buy it simply because their unethical behavior.

@renelopez2244 2 ай бұрын

Exactly

@czgunner 2 ай бұрын

And drop support for the older gens. That's great.

@blackout.ghost718 2 ай бұрын

Kinda like Glock which changes every generation and then the buyer still swaps to aftermarket everything lol

@krockpotbroccoli65 2 ай бұрын

@Gaspard129 I once applied for a job with them. And mind you, I'm a gunsmith and I would've had to relocate to work there, so I drove up for an interview and to tour the two plants and talk with various shop foremen. Actually a cool day. HR calls me a couple days later and offers me a part time temp cnc operator job. I laughed, hung up and never looked back.

@AMG454PRO 2 ай бұрын

Glad to see the original intro music back 👍🏻, don't change it!

@adamparris8353 2 ай бұрын

That was the most professional tackpack ad I've ever seen.

@wood-wheel-wizard Ай бұрын

Of course it is.

@heavilyarmedhippie75 2 ай бұрын

You mentioned that this is a modernized AR180, and i tend to agree. What i really want as a shooter and a consumer is the best parts of the G3 and the AR platform

@corydailey1486 2 ай бұрын

Modularity: built a 8.5 300 black out upper and a 10.5 556 upper. Both with a Strike Ind. Gridlock Lite handguard nut. I transfer the handguard, bolt and charging handle between the two within one minute. It's been a solid system.

@Hostilenemy 2 ай бұрын

Look at what you've done, Josh. By taking away Henry's 556, you've upset him gravely. Just look at his face. He's been crying the whole time during the discussion!

@camoandplaid Ай бұрын

Looking forward to the Rattler review. I think for the majority of what people need in the states for self defense, the Rattler can do. Its size and .300 BO make it great to go with you everywhere, and can deal with bad breath distances out to 200 yards without issue. For LE, it’s the patrol rifle you can take with you everywhere (not that most SOPs would allow it) and not have to run back to the car for. Great observations on the MCX as y’all always do.

@Gringo111R 2 ай бұрын

21:25 Most important segment when talking about the 16 inch or “Patrol” version of this rifle. It’s incredibly front heavy for what it is.. a 5.56 rifle. The MCX was really meant to be in an SBR version. I think if you want a long barrel piston driven system the PWS MK series can’t be beat in terms of weight and reliability.

@superdacoolman 2 ай бұрын

Check out the spear LT melt down video. Took the most rounds prior to failure.

@Gringo111R 2 ай бұрын

@@superdacoolman it’s a cool demonstration but not really relevant for the vast majority of civilian owners

@superdacoolman 2 ай бұрын

@@Gringo111R it highlights reliability design, component quality.

@Gringo111R 2 ай бұрын

@@superdacoolman if that's the case, I'd take a SCAR16S based on Battlefield Vegas's armorer feedback. Lighter than an LT too.

@AString95 2 ай бұрын

Sig. plenty to love and plenty to hate.

@ibdagimp16 2 ай бұрын

The stock on this Sig says, "Take my strong hand"

@mackgmoney1515 2 ай бұрын

Lol no JOKE!

@12ga.shooter84 2 ай бұрын

Did you guys just finish a magnum review? Henry looks like he’s nursing a scope eye in the discussion portion.

@Heywoodthepeckerwood 2 ай бұрын

No, he’s just Asian I think.

@ethan5.56 2 ай бұрын

I'd love to get one some day but I'll happily put my own gas guns together until then haha. Great video as always

@themajortom69 2 ай бұрын

In my experience, a 2 moa gun out shoots 90% of the people at the range

@9HoleReviews 2 ай бұрын

Because many of them are 5MOA shooters.

@Heywoodthepeckerwood 2 ай бұрын

100% truth

@fafhrdkreig4739 2 ай бұрын

As far as request rifles go, I would like to see practical accuracy with the HS Prodkt VHS-2 AKA the Springfield Hellion. Thanks for what you do.

@ryanrayfuss9037 2 ай бұрын

It’s so humid in tx rn, even Henry’s got a layer of sweat going lol I feel yu bro

@KealeyOnCars 2 ай бұрын

Someone out there bought a $3000 Sig Regulator and is cursing every diety known and unknown.

@lolwutyoumad 2 ай бұрын

Imagine paying all that money just to have a worse rifle than a mini-14

@elcadejo1722 2 ай бұрын

@@lolwutyoumad I know right? The mini-14 had an average day when 9-hole tested it years ago and no excuses were made for it then.

@lolwutyoumad 2 ай бұрын

Classic sunk cost fallacy, everything expensive has to be better than something older and every flaw is the result of a mistake and not just that being new doesn't make it better

@ravenwing199 2 ай бұрын

@@elcadejo1722 The Mini 14 failed to feed and took 10 extra rounds. By no means is it comparable.

@LootGoblin432 2 ай бұрын

I bought one, no cursing here nor seeing a reason to? I did buy it purely because I think it looks friggin neato, it has yet to do anything better than any of my ARs but I didn’t expect it to.

@m16a2m4 2 ай бұрын

Thanks chaps!

@ryanhutchinson3550 2 ай бұрын

You guys gotta do a video on the new gisselle 6mm arc rifle and not only practical accuracy but take it out to 1000👍🏼😉

@stackscustominc1 2 ай бұрын

Personally i think as a civilian rifle i want a 1moa rifle, unlike a military i don't have to fill out a bunch of forms and get funding allocated by the military budget to replace the barrel when my fancy super accurate barrel wears out

@QuickStrikes84 2 ай бұрын

Yeah right, not even knights and HK's can guarantee that. lol you want it to tuck you into bed and read you a story too? inb4 rando with lucky 3 shot groups.

@STEMbyidiots 2 ай бұрын

@@QuickStrikes84 Who tf hurt you lmao.

@breed4659 2 ай бұрын

it's not that hard or expensive to find a 1moa AR these days. I have a plain Jane 16" rock river that has shot a handful of sub 1" 5-shot groups. I paid $500 for that rifle. I also have a Daniel that I paid 1500 for that I've never gotten to shoot under 1.5". Some of it is just luck of the draw, but I've never had a 16" or longer gun that couldn't hit torso sized steel over and over at 600 yards with cheap 55gr plinking ammo. That includes a $379 radical and a $500 ruger. Modern ARs are just extremely accurate in general

@jordanwilliams6972 2 ай бұрын

If you spend money on the barrel and not the logo you can easily get an AR that shoots consistent sub minute. Not with random off the shelf "military match grade" ammo but cmon. Lmao

@STEMbyidiots 2 ай бұрын

@@jordanwilliams6972 yep. Tbh doing proper hand loads of some 77gr black hills and having a decent barrel does wonders.

@othernamesweretaken1871 2 ай бұрын

You have some of the most razor sharp verbal articulation I have ever heard. Just curious, is English your first language? Thanks for the vid.

@michaelschlissel8071 2 ай бұрын

The Orlando, Fl police SWAT team uses the MCX with 14in barrels, helicopter crews use an 11in version

@simoncleret 2 ай бұрын

XCR had the same issue with barrels loosening back during the initial production run. They ironed it out since then (like before the XCR-M came out)

@krockpotbroccoli65 2 ай бұрын

Oh look. One of the guns of all time. Yayyyy.

@jimbo1278 2 ай бұрын

"the ability to take down and customized... how valuable is that to the consumer?" to each there own but for an ex-infantry dude. that makes cleaning the thing sooo much easier.

@lolwutyoumad 2 ай бұрын

It really isn't even that that useful to your average grunt who is stuck with whatever kit they are issued with

@jimbo1278 2 ай бұрын

@@lolwutyoumad if you dont know better, you dont know better right? my intro to military firearms started at 16. i thought the C7A1 was the Cadillac of service rifles. 20 years later, i know now that there are alot of soldier quality of life improvements that even the C7A2 still need. experience counts for something. im not saying any rifle is better or worse, just the ability to strip a rifle down like that makes cleaning significantly easier. and thats definitely important to a grunt.

@attilathegod 2 ай бұрын

Try and run the course with a blackout defense DTL. They put a lot of science into how they make their rifles and I would really like to see their product pushed to distance to see how they do at extended ranges.

@invertedpolarity6890 2 ай бұрын

No reason to replace the M4 with the SIG.

@calholli 2 ай бұрын

They won't... Just like the SCAR didn't either

@FXIIBeaver 2 ай бұрын

@@calholli these contracts are just lining Sigs pocket.

@frostblasts 2 ай бұрын

The new ammo is interesting but the platform, not so much. 20 rounds capacity of SIG .277 seems problematic.

@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz Ай бұрын

But you dont understand, the M4 isnt [checks notes] _made by Sig USA_ so its clearly inadequate. Dont ask why Sig offered me a job after my military service is done....

@calholli Ай бұрын

@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz lol. Revolving door gonna revolve

@Lt._Nut 2 ай бұрын

1:15 WOW Josh that was just mean! Can’t do that to Henry, the man was enjoying his SIG

@mtgAzim 2 ай бұрын

Josh, you're not saying TacPack correctly. You're supposed to tense up and force it out as if you spent the last two weeks eating nothing but dry oatmeal and percocet.

@mangofett927 2 ай бұрын

Issues or not, I'd still take one over my cheap M&P 15 7 times out of 10. I'd pick a URGI over both of them or some kind of POF upper if I have to have a piston system. That or a JAKL or BRN180 upper.

@tperry101202 2 ай бұрын

I own a 11.5 spear LT and I dont experience any issues, Ive worked as a gunsmith and have seen the issue most seen in the 16 inch models. I know Isound like a boomer saying this, but here is my perception of the design I dont think sig made the clamp system strong enough to handle the force of flex that a 16 inch barrel can generate. I've never seen the barrel flex issue on any of the 300blkout models which have a 8 inch barrel. I've retorqued alot of 11.5 556 models simply out of owners being worried after their purchase. I've also handled exchanging warranties for sig so I got to see people go into my range and test them literally after they bought, tested, torqued, sent for warranty, then retested. The issue seems to be from my perspective "some have it, some don't." but I can say the rate seems to be higher with the 16 inch models. I've only sent 1 11.5 inch which I did not attempt to retorque at a customers request. when it returned the customer said CS resolved his issue and the rifle was shooting around 1 moa with match ammunitions with a surefire suppressor attached. mine shoots 1.5 moa using a 1-6 razor and rugged razor 7.62 as my suppressor for testing, I normally shoot it with a romeo 4t on unity mount but I do not trust reddots for grouping. I do use a arisaka rail clamp, I have never used the rifle without one. I'm not taking any sides in the conversation only sharing my experience. I do like my 11.5 spear LT its one of my favorite suppressed rifles, but I don't care the 16inch version, I would say testing a 11.5 inch model would give the gun a fair chance to redeem itself. Sig is not saying why this issue is present so everything is speculation on why the issue is present, testing a 11.5 inch would give it a chance to redeem itself and give it a fair fight I think. once again not taking any side only sharing my experience, I have the unique position where I have seen many LT models both on a range and in a smith room.

@superdacoolman 2 ай бұрын

Haven’t shot any other than a 16” LT with the arisaka clamp and I shot a 1” moa at 100 yards. I enjoy it.

@calholli 2 ай бұрын

You should have used a 1-8x lpvo.. so that it represents the new optic (xm157) that goes with this thing (or at least the big brother).

@louiscambre3445 2 ай бұрын

Sig sells the 11.5" 5.56 as either a pistol or factory SBR.

@donnelson4140 2 ай бұрын

When I came back to CONUS in 1977 after back-to-back Asia tours, I bought a HOWA AR180 to keep in the back of my Bronco. It wasn’t perfect, but it was handy and reliable. Yeah, the LT channels that, so I bought one for the back of my 4Runner. These days you have to bolt shit to a rifle to be credible, so light-weight 2x and flashlight later it arguably can reach a bit farther and in darker conditions, but mostly it’s the same handy, reliable, not-quite-perfect truck gun I liked a lot as a youngster.

@jiggy6486 2 ай бұрын

I still cannot comprehend how the MCX line is in perpetual beta test while the 716/516 are pretty decent. Is it just hard to mess up an AR or is it another reason?

@FXIIBeaver 2 ай бұрын

Backdoor deals.

@jiggy6486 2 ай бұрын

@@FXIIBeaver Can you elaborate? I know there's whispers of SIG bribing their way into adoption by the Army, but why the difference in quality among different production lines?

@DZ4295DBW 2 ай бұрын

They're two totally different weapons for starters and most of the issues with the MCX stems from the rail itself and possibly the cross bolts not being torque from factory. What this means is just go with LMT since you have any barrel modified to its system.

@lolwutyoumad 2 ай бұрын

Shitflation, you pay more for new products that aren’t better or worse than the stuff you are trying to replace d

@FXIIBeaver 2 ай бұрын

@@jiggy6486 internal policies or they just have shitty workers on the mcx

@bmrz38 2 ай бұрын

Impressive! Not surprised though.

@uwesca6263 2 ай бұрын

Given that the spear got an optic with an rangefinder that adjust itself to the distances and such: what are Henrys opinion concerning those things on normal and speedway curses. Do they increase performance for an experienced shooter? Or more of a gimmick?

@chrissheffield5468 2 ай бұрын

Great review. How about the same testing of the SIG 552 Commando? Meet me at Warf 39 at midnight. No MPs.

@whatiwant8898 Ай бұрын

I would love to see you guys do a practical accuracy test with the Tavor 7. I think it would do much better than the last Tavor you tested. I get right around 1MOA with 168gr SMKs.

@Kingcole26outdoors 2 ай бұрын

Could y’all do one on the PSA jakl?

@9HoleReviews 2 ай бұрын

just got one in

@werre2 2 ай бұрын

the gun looks cool

@cw7legionofpewrights596 Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂 Henry’s reaction 1:22 Just like nooo 🫣

@simlucien 2 ай бұрын

I love sweet and sauer sig

@davidhanson719 2 ай бұрын

I legitimately said the same thing as Henry earlier today about it being a modernized AR-180 😂

@jazon9 2 ай бұрын

One of Polish Special Force unit JW 4026 Formoza now use Sig MCX replace HK G36.

@skinwalkerhiddenvalleyranch 2 ай бұрын

g36 isn't great but it's better than sig's scams

@UMADBRO64 2 ай бұрын

@@skinwalkerhiddenvalleyranch God the poor cope is real.

@skinwalkerhiddenvalleyranch 2 ай бұрын

I own various hk and steyr firearms, all of which are better than anything sig has ever produced

@UMADBRO64 2 ай бұрын

@@skinwalkerhiddenvalleyranch You own an Aug that you bought because it was "good" in a video game you played. But sure, you totally own HK firearms, like a PTR 91, or a USP .40 police trade in. The poor copium flows endlessly like the soylent that flows through your veins.

@johnher4946 2 ай бұрын

I sold my Kate Moss stock for $140 and I hope the buyer is still enjoying it regardless of the "collector's value" today. It was adequate but not comfortable, and it's totally insane how much it's blown up when virtually identical clones and even better variations of it are on the market today. The thin shoulder blade doesn't distribute recoil so well, and I didn't like how it kept pushing against my earpro.

@stackscustominc1 2 ай бұрын

It's crazy how much Sig usa rifles varying accuracy from one to the next, a Swiss PE90 with gp90 ammo is a 1moa rifle. Some of them even shoot better, heck the 550 sniper with GP90 is a half minute rifle but obviously that's very specialized

@armorers_wrench 2 ай бұрын

Why havent you posted the URGI Practical accuracy? You filmed it a long time ago apparently.

@jeffpraterJSF 2 ай бұрын

Could you test a Sig M400 Tread pistol or the M400 Pro and see how a mid tier off the shelf AR compares against the top of the line new Sig products?

@desperado8605 Ай бұрын

I get wanting the most accuracy but would love to see this done as a minute man style with standard ball ammo

@orchirion 2 ай бұрын

3:38 Whoa, I can actually see the bullet flying in. Neat. 👨‍🚀☕

@jb7483 2 ай бұрын

My 11.5 sbr came with the m4 magpul stock.

@christophercasanova3968 2 ай бұрын

Any plans for 8.6 blackout videos??

@charltont23 2 ай бұрын

You need to ship that back to sig. With 77 Grain Im getting sub moa 5 shot groups. Dont judge the Spear Lt by this particular Spear Lt. Get it fixed or replaced by Sig

@platinummarketingservices8448 2 ай бұрын

Agreed! Sub Moa Tool with heavier rounds.

@bobshaw07 2 ай бұрын

My 16” shoots 1.5” groups with crap ammo. .75”-1.25” with match ammo. All 5 shot groups. It did shoot 3 moa when I first bought it because the barrel clamp screws weren’t fully torqued though.

@JohnTBlock Ай бұрын

Whose wall is that, that Josh is in front of for the Tac-Pac ad? I'm jealous....

@HBK-6S 2 ай бұрын

I know I've asked before, but I've got a 14.5" other that I was wondering if you'd be willing to test out to 500 yards.

@willsanders7313 2 ай бұрын

The 9” Virtus is the best version of the MCX! Sub MOA w/ 110gr VMAX

@johnmcleod4859 2 ай бұрын

Will you guys be bringing the X95 to Practical Accuracy?

@nam430 2 ай бұрын

yooooo new PA vid lets gooooo.

@juncho1977 2 ай бұрын

I got to fire a Spear LT and I was surprised at how light the rifle was! It had more recoil (short stroke) than my PWS MK116 (long stroke) but was slightly more accurate. Sig makes great barrels.

@rickfastly2671 2 ай бұрын

What do you think made the short stroke have higher recoil.

@juncho1977 2 ай бұрын

Definitely more of a instantaneous feeling push/shove instead of the PWS's long, drawn out recoil impulse. Even the guy who owned the Spear LT thought so too.

@rickfastly2671 2 ай бұрын

@@juncho1977 dang, that’s actually crazy, a lot of people say long strokes have more recoil.

@FXIIBeaver 2 ай бұрын

@@rickfastly2671 technically they do but it is the impulse that feels better.

@trunkmonkey56 2 ай бұрын

I own an 223 11.5" and 16" PWS, plus 9" 300 mcx and 11.5 556 mcx. The 16" PWS is a super long and smooth recoil impulse. The 11.5 PWS is quicker and more punchy. The mcx is just a bit quicker and punchier than the PWS models. The long stroke piston of the PWS is my favorite recoil of the bunch. A standard DI rifle is the lightest recoil by a lot. I just prefer gas adjustment and easy wiping clean due to the Piston systems because I was in his game before flow through suppressors, and I suppress everything.

@iac4357 Ай бұрын

Still waiting to see a Mod. 91 Carcano run through the Course !

@shibaspeed 2 ай бұрын

As a first 5.56 rifle, instead of the URGI, what about the LMT Specwar?

@rekoobnad187 2 ай бұрын

That raid mod is 🤌🤌🔥🔥🔥🔥

@666bzyku 2 ай бұрын

Josh, that stuff behind You at 5:00 . Is tahat all Yours?

@rednecksniper4715 2 ай бұрын

PLEASE make a follow up on the New more clone correct Gordon Carbine

@jfhucka1 2 ай бұрын

Would like to see you walk out a short 300 blk

@jacobdeem8187 2 ай бұрын

I contend that you could replace any sig rifle with LMT and get better results in almost any category. The exception is that abomination the 277 fury and that's because they don't chamber it

@superdacoolman 2 ай бұрын

Search out the spear LT melt down video. It took the most rounds up to failure. Top of the list.

@jacobdeem8187 2 ай бұрын

@@superdacoolman I believe you. Did they do a LMT? Also what do we think is the failure rate is with sig vs. LMT? How many gens floating around out there of the spear vs any LMT? I don't hate sig, I carry one of their pistols but are a great marketing company who sells better than average guns

@superdacoolman 2 ай бұрын

@@jacobdeem8187 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h795f9t0l6zblIU.html&ab_channel=GoldenWebb Not sure if they did but they have a list. I believe they did. With all the accounts of their pistols I’ve stayed away and at a shop I was checking one out and the magazine release components came apart and fell out. Glock FTW IMO. They did good with the LT though...

@ravenwing199 2 ай бұрын

@@jacobdeem8187LMT has Monolithic uppers and nothing else particularly worth the money. The barrels are great but not much more durable than a Colt or FN.

@jacobdeem8187 2 ай бұрын

@@ravenwing199 what magic is sig selling? Also if you think colt and fn are tge same as LMT, I would disagree

@brikeswardebbarma4029 2 ай бұрын

pretty accurate with 77gr OTM Match grade ammo

@aggrodkreg4321 2 ай бұрын

I'd spring for an HK MR556 or a SCAR like Josh has configured over this at the price point, but I won't crap on anyone that chooses this. Even with the issues it's had in the past, if you like to tinker, you should be fine.

@user-mj1vb8jr6j 2 ай бұрын

You see the new MR27 that has 1000 copies available for public purchase? I wish I had the money because that sucker will retain its value SO HARD!

@aggrodkreg4321 2 ай бұрын

@@user-mj1vb8jr6j I have not. Admittedly, I'm not a collector. I like to use and abuse my guns, so limited runs and value retention aren't my cup of tea. How much are they at the moment?

@CharlieFoxtrot128 2 ай бұрын

@@aggrodkreg4321barebones is 4400, “deployment kit” (foregrip, bipod, ACOG, piggyback RMR) is 9500

@kennethherrick8436 Ай бұрын

I just realized you are just a little over an hour away. I live in Aggieland.

@9HoleReviews Ай бұрын

hah my wife is an aggie and won't stop reminding me

@sebastiantran1266 2 ай бұрын

I can shoot sub MOA with my 11.5 LT and the PLxC using either the IMI Razor Core or the AAC 77gr (non-SMK) all day, and I’m not a good shoot by any stretch of imagination

@The_Assassin_of_The_Gray 2 ай бұрын

Ooh! New Bendy Boi™ video!

@aaronwilcox6417 2 ай бұрын

Problem is with is they dont support past items theyve produced like much of the P series pistols and legacy rifles. Always wanting to sell a bew mousetrap.

@gregorholmes1837 2 ай бұрын

Not a sig fan for many reasons. Reasons. But bcm hand guard move too.

@jfess1911 2 ай бұрын

If you were to choose a suppressed short-barreled platform, would the more rearward balance of a bullpup sway the decision? Non-suppressed, I think that getting the muzzle closer to the user's face is generally a bad idea.

@cxerphax1 Ай бұрын

Hold on so just confirm, you guys are saying you torqued the barrel screws to 60 inch, and the handguard screws to 45 and it was still bending?

@jimmywilliamson8540 2 ай бұрын

I think this is one of those rifles where is definitely doesn't need a lot of discussion, people tend to want to talk about it at length but essentially it's just a rifle that appears to be reliable and appears to be sufficiently accurate but definitely cost too much. If accuracy is all you care about you can get a $700 bolt action. Presumably this rifle is the complete package when it comes to semi-auto and it is also not a $8,000 sub Moa semi-auto Beast

@JohnTBlock Ай бұрын

5.56? I wanna see it run this course, and the Speedway, in the new caliber! (AND the issue War ammunition!!)