I kinda forgot Sakurai started with basically an apology with the Byleth reveal. The only thing I remembered was just how angry the internet was

Here’s a few others I can think of off the top of my head: -Smash 4 not having an Adventure Mode because they supposedly didn’t want cutscenes leaked (this may also explain World of Light’s lack of cutscenes too) -People not knowing if Ultimate would be a Smash 4 port (less development time than Brawl and Smash 4 doesn’t help) -Allegations of Kirby being severely nerfed in Melee because of creator bias (notice how the Meta Knight situation happened in the very next game) -Custom moves in Smash 4… like, everything about them -A near-complete lack of Pokémon spin-off content across the entire Smash series (seriously where the heck is my ukulele pichu alt) -Recurring debates on “the rat” (Pikachu) and if it should have been banned in Smash 64

Can't imagine making death threats over a video game. Some people need professional help.

I've said this on reddit, But I'll say it again here, at the end of the day, these characters are here to sell their games and it's not just for Fire Emblem. Most people wouldn't know these characters without smash in general, so it prones people to research them and get their games to know who they are. So it doesn't matter if this was done for the fans or not, money is money, business is business.

2:02 Nintendo didn't know fans would react like this, only Sakurai did. It wasn't his decision to put Byleth in the game, it was Nintendo's, and he knew fans would not be happy.

"Steve's meat getting cut loose"

I love how just saying Steve could be this whole video

16:11 The actual reason Brawl was delayed was due to huge amount of content in the game. Sonic had nothing to do with it. In fact the reason Sonic is the way he is Smash is because Sakurai based him on the classic genesis version. If you need more accurate info watch Source Gaming's series of why characters were chosen

blud called Dante an activision character💀

"Anime sword fighter" when half of Nintendo's franchises are anime 😂

Dante isn't an Activision Blizzard property. Devil May Cry is owned by Capcom. was so confused when you mentioned him XD

Smash is the definition of “Love the game, Fuck the community.”

I doubt Dante was affected... considering he's a Capcom character😂

I also love how Nintendo has to censor Samus, yet they gave Mythra jiggle physics.

Imagine spending all that hard work to make a unique character that's fun to play as and has so many combos but end up getting told to kill yourself because it's a Fire Emblem character 💀💀💀

I've noticed that with the DLC characters in Smash Ultimate for whatever reason some people were really overly sensitive when it came to anyone having any sort of negative opinion about them. I still remember how angry the fanbase was when Hero, Terry and Byleth were announced those three characters brought out the worse in the fanbase. If there's ever another Smash game (which I'm sure there will be) I really hope the community can learn to chill out and let people like what they like and dislike what they dislike without getting up in arms over other peoples opinions.

You missed the EVO Scandal where Nintendo tried to shut down Melee at Evo after they raised money for cancer research to be added to the roster

28:23 I’ll actually defend nintendo on this one. having a character who fights with her hair be the representative for a game called arms is a little backwards

The possibility of an Overwatch character getting into Vol 2 if Blizzard didn't screw up back in late 2019 is pretty insane, in terms of how we could’ve been in an alternate timeline with Tracer regardless of your thoughts on Overwatch

17:39 Lyn's age was changed in International versions of FE7, so they changed the Trophy to reflect that.

It’s very rare to someone mention Smash Overload in Smash controversy

Nintendo really hate the smash community. They even killed 30 mods on gamebanana

What really was controversial in Brawl for me is how "rigged" the AI is, going only after the player, even in a FFA. It's even mentioned in SSBWiki (in Flaws in artifical intelligence) and it's hated by lots of people.

Ultimate needed more Earthbound representation. Porky should have been added

Honestly I always gave Nintendo a pass for cutting the Disney Characters from Sora's stage. Negotiating with Square to use Sora and Kingdom Hearts characters was one thing, negotiating the mouse is a whole other beast.

I remembered playing in an official SSBU live online tournament and I fought against players named “FREE MELEE” in that tournament.

Byleth, Steve, Waluigi as assistant again, Bayonetta from Smash Wii U, Corrin from Smash Wii U, and Smash Con 2022 and Smash Con 2023 were among the darkest episodes of Smash Bros.

Half of those assist trophies/ spirits could've been some great characters 😢

9:59-10:39 NOSTALGICAAA!!!😭 Also congrats for the 100K!👏

Not sure if this was put yet but you can also play as Master Hand in Melee by a glitch that has the player's controller in port 3 hover over the option to put a new name and then simultaneously hit A and B together,if done right it goes to the stage select menu and I say port 3 because that's the only port you can control it in,not 1,2 or 4

18:37 hey, there's PMEX REMIX! (Dev from the project, appreciate the nod!)

Congratulations on 100k subs 😊

Nintendo didn't take down Slippi, they took down a tournament that used it. They didn't take down Project+ either, just a tournament. Nintendo doesn't seem to mind fan games as long as it's not a remake or a Pokemon fan game, they're also pretty strict on tournaments with their games in general

Brawl Meta Knight was a monster!! Lol my cousin randomly picked him up and was unstoppable for a long time 😭😭😭

Did....Did you just call Dante an activision character? Blasphemy I say! But it's cool, we all make mistakes, great video regardless.

Congrats For 100k Subs, You Deserve It Bro

the only thing i remember about byleth was waking up early to see it being like eh going back to sleep and then the video from nintendo store they were more hyped for the mii costumes i am so glad i only play smash very very casually as the competitive scene always makes me cringe to see

The Smash World Tour was run (and cancelled) by VGBC due to ‘health and safety concerned’. Panda was the Panda World Cup and was the only of these two partnered with Nintendo. VGBC cancelled and alleged it was because of Panda sending Nintendo after them. The community turned on Dr Alan and Panda. Just a small correction there in that it’s two seperate tourney with circumstances about them.

Death Threating poor Sakurai? These mfs need Jesus. I hate Byleth as much as the next guy, but bruh. That's just plain old evil.

As a Super Smash Bros Player, I loved this video and editing style! Well Done Homie!

Oh so thats what happened to smash overload because I remember seeing posts about those character trailers and then nothing else. Shocked that it didnt get shut down faster with the whole kickstarter

Love the use of the Boss music from Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games DS at 10:01! It's one of the most underrated songs out there for sure.

11:54 Correction: Slippi, as a service, is still a thing and can still be played today. Nintendo shut down a _tournament_ planned to run Slippi on the grounds of the program needing the "use of illegally copied versions of the game in conjunction with a mod called 'Slippi' during their online event." Source: Owen S. Good, _"Smash Bros. tournament The Big House 10 canceled over netcode,"_ Polygon, Nov 19, 2020

Can't wait for the next siiroth upload in 6 months

Thank you that you didn't include Byleth. Fans acted like spoiled little brats who cried because a new Fire Emblem character even though Byleth is one of the most unique FE characters in Smash

Hi, I have a weird question, can anybody tell me what's the music theme used behind Kazuya starting at 32:18

Great Vid, I learned a lot, but you forgot to mention in brawl thanks to sonic being slow (ironically enough) with development, wolf, toon link and jigglypuff wouldnt even be in the game.

There are a shocking amount of people who are still pressed about Byleth to this day. Like elite levels of copium

10:01 what song is playing here in background??

zelda getting nerfed to oblivion was my most hated smash moment

Why is the song at 22:58 so damn hype when nothing exciting is happening

Congrats on 100K

17:56 There was a big full length indie film for melee? I honestly had no idea. Then again I've always liked each new Smash Bros game better than the last.

Nice video!

Whats the song at 22:46?

Why is Link in the brawl cover art at 18:41 different then his actual look on other cover arts

The biggest controversy was ZS-Samus getting a smaller bust, which is another reason that every game should get a boob slider. Alright, thank you for coming to my tedtalk.

The big 100k let’s go

Nintendo walking out of the "hating fans" competition with every trophy that was there

What’s the first song in the beginning

Hey Siroth, Here are some things I wish to point out concerning the Smash 64 section of your video: 1. To my knowledge, no one got scammed from Smash Overload. People just warned others to not donate to this mod. 2. The only stage that got banned as a result of Tacna 2014 is Hyrule Castle. 64 Kongo Jungle, 64 Peach's Castle and Saffron City were banned for different reasons. 3. Can you provide any proof that letters were sent to Nintendo due to rumored characters not being in Smash 64? If not, then this shouldn't have been put into the video.

I was pretty young when Byleth was announced and I remember being excited for someone like Conker to join since I was super hyped about Banjo & Kazooie. Thought, I knew it wasn't a dealbreaker since Terry came with an announcement of another Fighters Pass. When it ended up being Byleth as the final Fighter Pass 1 character, I didn't know what to feel. I thought it'd all be third-party, so I expected a third-party character. Though, at the same time, it wasn't all disappointment since I had the same reaction to them as I did with Hero and Terry. I knew it wasn't for me and that people from the other part of the word was popping off. Then I saw the outrage that unfolded, these grown men and women on social media. I guess it makes sense, I mean, if you're a Western fan, you pay for a Fighters Pass and you expect them all to be banger third-party characters, and then the final one is a character from a second-party franchise that is considered niece in your region, from a franchise you consider to be over-represented. I guess that makes sense, so the whole "it is optional DLC" argument doesn't fully apply, I feel you can say that today, though if someone complaints in hindsight. Like, just don't buy it. Nowadays, I am actually a defender of Byleth in Smash and the FE rep in general now when I have a deeper understanding for the franchise, its reputation and popularity in Japan. Plus, Smash is an obvious way to represent and therefor marketing Nintendo's niecer franchises to a wider audience which has payed off, if you ask me (not even taking into consideration how every FE game features a new protag, making them more relevant than, let's say Waluigi or Geno). What with Fire Emblem games nowadays cracking at least a million copies which is insane for a Japanese tactical RPG, which one of the least popular genres in gaming. Oh, and great video. Gonna get a like from me!

Yeah, no, the whole Smash World Tour isn't as simple as "It's all Alan's fault" that people want to make it be. But knowing the community, they don't want to hear the truth anyways. Nah, they just want a bunch of sleazed bags get away with getting the best of them, because they entertain them. But will send you an email, charging you money for re-streaming their stream of their tournaments.... With one of them finally being out of the running, and going out of "business" (if you can consider hosting a game tournament a business) not that long ago. You'd figure summer 2020, after *that* event happening, that people would come to realize all their problems isn't always big corpos, or people who make deals with big corpos. And that it's sometimes from the person right next to you, the one who is "on your side."

Well.. Even If Samus Is Censored She's Still Considered Suggestive 🤔

Happy 25th to the series!

SMASH REMIX MENTIONED LET'S GO

15:24 I hated that bug where you would trip and fall randomly I'm so glad they took it out in Wii U And Ultimate 😕

Hope that you’ll do wanted characters for smash bros 6/smash bros ultimate deluxe port.

How can they force someone to return their prize money though? Unless there's an official legal contract for it that they had to sign before the tournament, which I doubt.

THE GOAT IS BACK BABY

happy 100k

I'm surprised you didn't mention Brawl's upload feature for photos/videos and the controversy there. EDIT: Contracts for DLC characters in Season 2 were likely done around the time the game launched, not before the release of the first character in the second fighter's pass.

He's back 🎉

I forgot the blizzard controversy

i have never played this series but i do like watching videos on it

Despite Byleth getting backlash by being included into Smash Ultimate, actually brought me into the Fire Emblem community and yes, I did buy Three Houses because of the DLC (along with Xenoblade 2) and I must say I absolutely love Fire Emblem mechanic, gameplay, and story wise.

they left some trophies in japan melee only. but they put the fire emblem bois in the game everywhere anyways

26:47 Fun Fact It's Not Just Mai That's Not In Ultimate, Luong And Kula Diamond Are Not There Either 😅

i'm 30 minutes into this video and idk what slippy is and it keeps coming up

I would've been a Mew main 😭 i cant believe they never put him in knowing how slow mewtwo is

I was honestly less upset that the fighter reveal was _Byleth_, and more that I _woke up at 4 AM_ to find out it was Byleth; my reaction was p much just "yeah that's neat and makes sense I guess but I'd have preferred three more hours of sleep" Like, yes, Byleth wasn't exactly the most conceptually exciting character reveal, but c'mon, man :/

Song from 0:00-0:16?

What about people in the Smash community who supposedly ate kids

loved the vid!

when byleth was anounced we actually were thinking we get Dante becouse Devil may cry creators were hyping nintendo direct at that date

Smash isn’t really my thing but you made me watch 36 minute video on this 👍

Has there been a fighting game with zero competitive controversy? The character bans feel ridiculous in concept.

13:06 the mark rober music

21:15 Wait what? I remember when I first played Super Smash Bros for Nintendo 3DS when it first came out that I was finding myself to actually play really well with Greninja. Then I started playing online with them and I wasn't feeling good about how I played as that fighter so I went back to the main I had in brawl who is still my main Sonic especially since he's better and smash for and ultimate than he wasn't brawl anyway, but yeah suddenly I wasn't really any good at using Greninja. I thought it was just that perhaps maybe I wasn't as good with the fighter as I thought I was although I'm sure that's part of it but I wonder if the nerf had anything to do with it.

wow, people were once mad that there *wasnt* Pit or a Fire Emblem character in the game?

29:46 bro had to pray to his anime waifu real quick LOL

I know it's probably not the case, but imagine if the reason we got a 2nd Fighters Pass was because of Byleth being the last one in the first pass.

Smash community more controversial than South Park 😊 I JUST NOTICED LATE AF HAPPY 100K BRO

A video concept that would be cool is one about controversies with newcomers in general. like when Americans got mad because they didn't know who Terry was

I thought Tamagon technically doesn’t exist in any copy of the game’s data, but only from memory cards loaded with data from that one Toys “R” Us thing?

This is just like when Onin received death threats for winning smash con

Sonic and Snake not getting 2nd characters baffled me

is so sad panda died like that, i even had bought a jacket from the store because i thought they were good and after some time...

Did the video creator cover Steve's meat victory? I couldn't find it in the video.

"Do you not have phones?" It may not be Nintendo related, but that panel is not easily found on youtube and if you go to watch it from Blizzard itself they cut that part out. The question and answer is cut completely from the video as they move to the next one.