Sikhs and Caste - The Truth!

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Basics of Sikhi

Basics of Sikhi

11 жыл бұрын

Why do some Sikhs believe in Caste? What is the Caste system anyway? Who made it? Follow us on FB (basicsof.sikhi) and twitter @everythings_13 - This video is an excerpt from our weekly English Katha programme at Park Avenue Gurdwara Southall. Basics of Sikhi is a youtube channel to spread Guru's wisdom set up by www.everythings13.org (a registered UK educational charity)

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@harminderbedi8448
@harminderbedi8448 6 жыл бұрын
It amazes me how so many Jatts attempt to justify their casteist attitudes by declaring that Jatts are a race and not a caste, hoping that this will allow them to call themselves as Sikhs and Jatts at the same time. Do a simple DNA study on them and they'll realise that they also share genes with Tamils and Bengalis, who are no where near Punjab.
@binary
@binary 5 жыл бұрын
exactly. I'm supposedly a Jatt and recently read a study where the dna of Jatts and Khatris (bhappa) are pretty much identical. Jatts in Punjab are just land owners (mostly uneducated) with a lot of the dna as most of the other caste. Heck even Jassa Singh was a freakin' "jatt." It's all mixed up and serves no purpose anymore.
@amitfaujdar6421
@amitfaujdar6421 5 жыл бұрын
@@AryaManIndia sahi baat boli aapne...
@vedicindian5333
@vedicindian5333 5 жыл бұрын
@A m a r Singg Those jatts are much more intelligent than you even with your supposed education.
@simranmehtab3757
@simranmehtab3757 5 жыл бұрын
Vedic Indian that’s what you think. But the main thing is if we’re a practising Sikh we shouldn’t care about caste.
@ak4shii458
@ak4shii458 5 жыл бұрын
Brother, i ask you to devote a little effort, to expose hw these farmers are in active WAR to keep themselves standing on the DIGNITY of 900 million souls, all AKAAL's creation, as do the BANDITS aka Pundits aka the brahmins, is this GURMUKI?
@balou333mb
@balou333mb 6 жыл бұрын
It's absolutely disgusting our Guru's gave their lives just to eradicate the caste system but sadly it failed
@simmyk1897
@simmyk1897 5 жыл бұрын
balou333 I agree! All of the Gurus had the same message to abolish the caste system. “Don’t be so proud of your caste, class and social status you ignorant fool. So much sin and corruption comes from this pride” - Guru Granth Sahib Ji
@singhanmolpreet5935
@singhanmolpreet5935 3 жыл бұрын
@@simmyk1897 Pls tell the pg no. of this, just for reference
@user-hh3gx5mc1k
@user-hh3gx5mc1k 3 жыл бұрын
Its actually only jatt caste that ruined it and continue to. That why I have pulled away from this culture ...they have lost their way...
@detectivesdelhi
@detectivesdelhi 3 жыл бұрын
Caste system is not Indian. We had flexible varna system. In which one can change varna as per choice. Caste system is European and rigid. Casta is a Portuguese word.
@indranidutta1945
@indranidutta1945 3 жыл бұрын
You got it wrong. The gurus gave their lives to protect the brahmin and his janeu in Kashmir as it symbolises sanatana Dharma. A people who were practicing bonded labour till late into the 20 th century are a desecration of the teachings of the great gurus of this land and should do some truly intense soul searching and read the granthis properly. Many of the granths are behaving like mullahs and maulvis and are feeding untruths to improve on their power base
@baldevsingh8715
@baldevsingh8715 8 жыл бұрын
Guru Gobind Singh had abolished castes after creation of Khalsa in 1699 but people revert to old practices. Teachings of Gurus are against such an thinking !
@udaykhanna1
@udaykhanna1 8 жыл бұрын
They rejected the caste system u idiot but they were born into Khatri Caste family .It doesnt matter whether u want to accept it or not ,no one can change the reality.
@udaykhanna1
@udaykhanna1 8 жыл бұрын
All the ten Sikh Gurus were Khatris. Guru Nanak was a Bedi, Guru Angad was a Trehan, Guru Amar Das was a Bhalla, and the rest of the Gurus were Sodhis. During the lifetime of the Gurus, most of their major supporters and Sikhs were Khatris.
@udaykhanna1
@udaykhanna1 8 жыл бұрын
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@baldevsingh8715
@baldevsingh8715 7 жыл бұрын
In terms of census report of 1931 total Sikh population consists of 66 % Jatts, 12 % Dalits, 8 % Ramgharia/tarkhans, 5 % Aroras, 3 % Kambojs, 2 % Sainis, 2 % Khatris and rest consisted of Rajputs, Brahmins, Ahluwalia/Kalals, Lubanas etc.
@udaykhanna1
@udaykhanna1 7 жыл бұрын
Baldev Singh Ji Khatri and Arora are same caste. Bloodline is same.
@AmarSingh-zc5nj
@AmarSingh-zc5nj 4 жыл бұрын
The caste system is poison and has no place in Sikhi. I also wish our Punjabi music will move away from referencing Jatts in every bleeding song.
@meetpremsingh
@meetpremsingh 9 жыл бұрын
I don't know how this caste system comes to our Sikh religion and We need to take a very strong stand against it. I already start doing it by saying my last and family name as Singh only and i hope all do the same because our Guru Gobind singh ji gives us Singh name only.
@ravindersagoo9133
@ravindersagoo9133 8 жыл бұрын
+Meet Prem Singh as I understand the 'singh' or 'kaur' is given at the time of becoming an Amritdhari sikh, one who gives themselves to Guru ji.
@sarbjeetkaur7253
@sarbjeetkaur7253 7 жыл бұрын
Meet Prem Singh i also say my last name is kaur only if somebody ask me
@khushi5922
@khushi5922 4 жыл бұрын
Sabhi movies and songs me... Jatt... Jatt munda.. etc hota h... Spreading castism
@meetpremsingh
@meetpremsingh 4 жыл бұрын
Mahavir Singh This is what we need to stop it. Atleast we can start from our side first. I myself stop listening songs or watching movies have the name Jatt. This is so pathetic in our sikh religion. Totally opposite to all our sikh gurus teaching.
@meetpremsingh
@meetpremsingh 4 жыл бұрын
ravinder sagoo your understanding is totally wrong. Please read our sikh religion first before believing anything.
@basicsofsikhi
@basicsofsikhi 11 жыл бұрын
Vaheguru - we can avoid caste surnames and bhattras are no longer needed to remain distinct in the west. Khalsa creation ended all caste for Sikhs.
@dhavalkuvadia5921
@dhavalkuvadia5921 6 жыл бұрын
Basics of Sikhi sorry to say but yes caste discrimination is evident in sikhs too and thus ravidassia formed a separate dera and broke off from the mainstream Sikh
@kuldeepsinghshekhawat7542
@kuldeepsinghshekhawat7542 6 жыл бұрын
Jatt, sikh m sbse bde h kya...nhi to phir punjabi gano m khud ko glorifie kyo krte rhte h....
@tarushsingh9181
@tarushsingh9181 3 жыл бұрын
Theoretically caste ended in sikhism but practically it didnt its all about teh majourity and minority caste actually the majourity dominated and the minority suffers. Its so foolish how people say i am jatt sikh , ramgarhia sikh , ravidasia sikh etc how are we gonna eradivate castism i think its not possible in the near future atleast 1000 years i guess. I think one of the other reasons is songs making jatts sound synonymous to sikh . Its actually a very open neglect to teaching of Guru granth sahib ji.
@shimankumaheshwari6904
@shimankumaheshwari6904 2 жыл бұрын
Rome was not built in a day....similarly Sikhi will take time to establish....so be patient....fun fact: I m a Hindu baniya caste...lol
@basicsofsikhi
@basicsofsikhi 11 жыл бұрын
sorry to hear that bhenji, its the job of the Husband to handle his own parents, not leave it to his wife. Tell Mr Singh to be a banda of the Guru.
@samimir8626
@samimir8626 4 жыл бұрын
Even though Guru Nanak Dev Sahib despised the Caste System the Sikhs still observe it to this day sadly.
@PHEROMONE-wz9bz
@PHEROMONE-wz9bz 2 жыл бұрын
In india, Even abrahamic faiths Christianity & Islam strongly believes in caste system.
@rp7159
@rp7159 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the peaceful people also have discriminatory teachings which cannot be over ruled or challenged under any circumstances for obvious reasons. Surah 9 text 29 is a classic example. Please read and find out
@harminderbedi8448
@harminderbedi8448 6 жыл бұрын
Listen up..we may have different ancestral/tribal/clan origins (e.g. mine is Bedi, just like Guru Nanak ji), but it does not mean we have a caste or are practising casteism, and should not interfere with the way we deal with each other. We are all humans. Caste is nothing but occupation. If subcontinental people wish to classify us as a caste, then ALL SIKHS are a combination of Brahmin and Kshatriya, because we are all SAINT SOLDIERS. Doesn't matter if their ancestry is Mazhbi, Jatt, Chamar, Tarkhan, Saini etc. To be a Sikh means to be a saint soldier. No Sikh is higher or lower than another. For instance, this guy, Jagraj Singh Hundal, maybe of a Jatt origin, and I might be of a Bedi Khatri origin, but as Sikhs, we are all equal, no matter how the outside world views us.
@scientificbeekeepersofjammu
@scientificbeekeepersofjammu 3 жыл бұрын
Guru Nanak was also from Bedi clan, but he didn't used the word Bedi at once, then why are you using it? Also Clan and Gotra are two different things. Clan may belong to a single Gotra but Gotra consists of hundreds of different clans.
@AZAD_DIMAG_AZAD_KHYAAL
@AZAD_DIMAG_AZAD_KHYAAL 3 жыл бұрын
@@scientificbeekeepersofjammu bedi clan ka gotar kashyap hai suryavanshi
@anupamprasad9645
@anupamprasad9645 Жыл бұрын
​@@AZAD_DIMAG_AZAD_KHYAAL abe bhikmange sikh channel par v aake caste k upar hindu wale chutyapa failane lagte ho
@saif1980saif
@saif1980saif 3 жыл бұрын
In islam caste system is against islam. But culturally it exists. Culture will always prevail over faith. That's the human behaviour.
@rp7159
@rp7159 2 жыл бұрын
Surah 9 text 29
@anandpandey7164
@anandpandey7164 6 жыл бұрын
Kalidas, rishi valmiki, ved vyas, vishvamitra, none was brahmin but are the greatest intellectuals of vedic tradition. Caste is not part of vedas, it is part of indian culture and we can change it. Varna is part of vedas which is based on actions and attitude and not by birth and see anywhere in the world these 4 varnas are there. And there was no untouchable in vedas. There were criminals like favours, theives murderers et etc who were expelled out of the 4 varnas.
@sk....3049
@sk....3049 5 жыл бұрын
Hinduism caste system is terriosm no one can justify
@Dr_Tesla_
@Dr_Tesla_ 4 жыл бұрын
@Anand Pandey Please don't tell Us. Entire World Know about Manusmirti and Vedas which has cast Systems , Discriminations , Violence, Due to such Varnas JAINISM BUDDHISM SIKHISM and LINGAYATISM came into Existence.. These Religion entirely Banned MANUSMIRTI and VEDAS.. They don't accept neither they follow Vedas and Manusmirti. These Religion have Entirely Abolished Condemn Vedas Manusmirti.. Hindu Religion is basic root cause which failed, Brahmins ( Aryans ) are Mother of Manusmirti Vedas.. Bhrahmins Infected the whole Humanity and true Ancient Culture of Sindhu Civilization.. So please don't make us Fool .
@AZAD_DIMAG_AZAD_KHYAAL
@AZAD_DIMAG_AZAD_KHYAAL 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dr_Tesla_ who is manu????
@yash-lu7qp
@yash-lu7qp 3 жыл бұрын
Everywhere Sharmas, Pandeys, Srivastavas drop and talk about how Hinduism doesn't support the caste system and it is very tolerant while in practice they will marry within their caste and constantly spread hatred against Muslims and now even Sikhs.
@AZAD_DIMAG_AZAD_KHYAAL
@AZAD_DIMAG_AZAD_KHYAAL 3 жыл бұрын
@@yash-lu7qp जज साहब
@PavinderSingh99
@PavinderSingh99 11 жыл бұрын
Waheguru, Great explanation!!!
@manvirneta82
@manvirneta82 9 жыл бұрын
Amazing example at the end, well explained.
@HiddenHistoryofBharat
@HiddenHistoryofBharat 6 жыл бұрын
One Thing I would like to mention here is , I accept that Caste system is still there in Hindu Society , but u are saying here that "Hindu Scriptures say that Only Brahmins and Khsatriya can attain salvation while others cannot" I find this statement incorrect, I have read Bhagwat Geeta and in that Bhagwan Krishan say that If u have true Bhakti / Devotion of God in your heart than No matter which Caste or class u belong to u can attain salvation , and there is no need of Hard Tapasya if you have true devotion.I can give you references..So please don't misguide ppl regarding Hindu Scriptures which you also are not having Knowledge of
@aryanverma5467
@aryanverma5467 3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever read geeta? Go and read Br Ambedkar book Riddles in Hinduism......he has given many references about a birth based varna system from geeta itself
@aryanverma5467
@aryanverma5467 3 жыл бұрын
Geeta strictly says that one's duty is based on ones varna. And his skill is also inherent by his varna.
@HiddenHistoryofBharat
@HiddenHistoryofBharat 3 жыл бұрын
@@aryanverma5467 Yes, Varna was profession but for salvation it's written in Bhagwat Geeta that a person can attain Moksh by following the Path of Nishkam Karmyog irrespective of his Varna, People of all 4 Varnas can attain Moksha following the path of Karmyog
@aryanverma5467
@aryanverma5467 3 жыл бұрын
@@HiddenHistoryofBharatwhy there is no instance of a shudra taking birth in a brahmin family? This is a general proof ...
@sunilvarma3532
@sunilvarma3532 3 жыл бұрын
@@aryanverma5467 there are so many examples of people transcending the Varna, Neeraj is correct. Why are you referencing the Gita? it's not Shruti? Why would I read Ambedikars book on Hinduism, he rejected Hinduism so his words mean absolutely nothing.
@GurpreetSingh-iv1ur
@GurpreetSingh-iv1ur 8 жыл бұрын
wahe guru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh! pa ji i have series of questions , i will go one by one. 1. i was astonished to know that Darbar sahib che jakara ni laundey , why? 2. why in darbar sahib women are not allowed to do kirtan ? khalsa is no gender , then why to distinguish in a prime place of sikh faith. 3. asi parkirma leynna aa guru sahib ji dey around and nishan sahib ji dey around , we go from left to right , why no right o left and why it signifies ? 4. Hajoor sahib che jo bakrey di bali or what ever it is , jo reet chali aa rahi aa , what is your opinion about it.
@dilbagsingh3359
@dilbagsingh3359 8 жыл бұрын
brother in every religiOn we have to follow the firts is our sacred Schripture.. Guru Granth Sahib. if it is on Our Schripture we follow it. if it againts our Schripture we throw it. todays a lot of parcharek/ giani make their own opinion n own rule..
@tazza6789
@tazza6789 11 жыл бұрын
i agreed with what he was saying, but correct me if im wrong, im pretty sure one of the main reasons, ideas or foundations of Sikhism was to abolish the caste system...?
@simranmehtab3757
@simranmehtab3757 5 жыл бұрын
tazza6789 yes.
@simranmehtab3757
@simranmehtab3757 5 жыл бұрын
No sikh should follow caste system but culture likes to talk about caste and clashes with the Sikh religion.
@sunilvarma3532
@sunilvarma3532 3 жыл бұрын
Nah it was to defend themselves from Mullahs who had ethnically cleansed Hindus from Afghanistan, Pakistan, and soon Punjab with the way the Sikhs are going.
@singhindia9577
@singhindia9577 4 жыл бұрын
Some evil fools are still living in darkness of the caste system. Jatt is a abbreviation of two words "Zamini Tutoo." Under the false Hindu Caste system, Zamini Tutoos were low caste (shudar) and not allowed in Hindu temples. They begged to enter, but pundits denied them entry to Hindu temples. Then Satgur Baba Nanak came. Satgur eliminated the caste system. Shri Guru Gobind Singh Ji established Sikh Religion and brought equality to all castes. Sikhism brought prosperity and respect to Zamini Tutoos and all other castes. Once Zamini Tutoos became prosper under Sikhism, they became arrogant. "Kuta raj bithaya, murh chuki chute." It is true very few can handle prosperity. Prosperity is the enemy of humility and harbinger of arrogance. Zamini Tutoos began to glorify their caste as Jatt and stabbed Sikhism in the back. My grandfather was a Zamini Tutoo, but he did not care for it. He was content being a Sikh. In 1984, my father also realized that being a Sikh is enough. The false caste will not save us or help us achieve salvation. Salvation is in Guru's word. I have no caste. I spit on the evil caste system. Zamini Tutoos now say they are not caste, they are tribe(s). That's so dumb. Caste and tribe is the same just as lawyer and attorney, physician and doctor, petrol pump and gas station, custodian and janitor. Today's Zamini Tutoos suffer from severe mental disorder. Psychological research indicates pride of caste or race is a severe mental disorder. Extremely low IQ and low self-esteem are the cause of false pride of caste or race. Patient feels his or her group is superior and productive, other groups are not. No patient is born with these feelings. These misleading feelings are implanted in patient's mind by other mentally ill individuals in patient's group. Patient writes, reads or listens to compositions that gives his/her false pride constant boost and justify his/her false feelings of superiority. Patient feels paranoid, unable to get along with others, isolates himself/herself, becomes sociopath and violent. By himself/herself patient might feel normal, but fear of being rejected by own caste or race causes anxiety to patient and keeps him/her trapped in vicious cycle of false pride. To please the ill in the group, patient conforms to ill group's ill norms and constantly glorifies his/her group's name. Jo Sikh he usdi jaat nhin, jisdi jaat he oh Sikh nhin. Kde nhin ho skda.
@gunner9936
@gunner9936 4 жыл бұрын
please distinguish from croupted Hindus and the religion please read this before you spread ignorance ekavarṇama idama pūrvaṃ viśvama āsida yudhiśthira karmakriyāviśesena caturvarṇyama pratiśthitama Even the distinction between caste and outcaste is artificial and unspiritual. An ancient verse points out that the Brahmin and the outcaste are blood brothers.  antyajo viprajātiśa ca eka eva sahodaraḥ ekayoniprasūtas ca ekasākhena jāyate In the Mahabharata, Yudhishthira says that it is difficult to find out the cast of persons on account of the mixture of castes. Men beget offspring in all sorts of women. So conduct is the only determining feature of caste according to the sages. The four-fold order is designed for human evolution. There is nothing absolute about the case system which has changed its character in the process of history. Today it cannot be regarded as anything more than an insistence on a variety of ways in which the social purpose can be carried out. Functional groupings will never be out of date. As for marriages - they will happen among those who belong to more or less the same stage of cultural development
@user-vp5ub1br7u
@user-vp5ub1br7u 6 жыл бұрын
im not Indian, but i find this is a good talk.
@Vlogs_Dharma
@Vlogs_Dharma 2 жыл бұрын
The Speaker is blindly accusing Hinduism Vedic Scriptures he is speaking about Perversion in society and equating it to Varnashram system and he also spoke many wrong things which have nothing to do with Hinduism . Eg Drug addiction is widespread problem amongst Young Sikh Community so would it be correct to equate it somethy to do with Religion?? Answer is No . Similarly Casteism is not coming from Scriptures it's simply pervert practices.. According to Lord Krishna, no one is born a brahmana; it's just Qualities and activities ( Guna Karma Vibhgasha ) samo damas tapah saucam ksantir arjavam eva ca jnanam vijnanam astikyam brahma-karma svabhava-jam “Peacefulness, self control, austerity, purity, tolerance, honesty, knowledge, wisdom, and religiousness these are the natural qualities by which brahmanas work.” Bhagavad-gita 18.42 Our advice practice your Religion honestly don't try to create Fault in others Religions which do not exist ..
@swarnsingh3050
@swarnsingh3050 10 жыл бұрын
i want d whaeguru song which a lady sings in d begining of every video plz give d link fr dat...
@basicsofsikhi
@basicsofsikhi 10 жыл бұрын
Vaheguru Simran in the Intro and Outro is how Sikhs chant Gods name. Its performed by Jagdeep Kaur of www.qi-rattan.com. You can download it for free from www.thekdp.com (Jam 2, track 6 = Waheguru Simran).
@dilipnaik6081
@dilipnaik6081 2 жыл бұрын
Some prominent castes among Sikhs are Arora, Khatri, Ramgarhia, Jat, Saini, Kamboh, Mahton, Chhimba, Mohyal , Chamar, etc. Each caste has its sphere of influence and specialization.
@swarnsingh3050
@swarnsingh3050 10 жыл бұрын
thanks vrg.. :)..it very short but..plz ask d singer to extend the duration.loved d tune.. :)
@Life-Row-Toll
@Life-Row-Toll 10 жыл бұрын
I'm "Jatt" Sikh; however, Jatt + Sikh equates to caste system, correct?
@mankind9074
@mankind9074 7 жыл бұрын
yes, true. a true sikh does not believe in the caste system.
@shoo8873
@shoo8873 4 жыл бұрын
@@mankind9074 kon bola sikh caste system mai believe nehi karta....khatri sikh or jatt sikh mostly apas mai wedding nehi karta
@gurbindra1349
@gurbindra1349 3 жыл бұрын
@@shoo8873 chutiya bihar sikh hater listen up...sikhism is not shrewd like ur BJP nationalist shit, there is no caste system in sikhs, jatt is a race not a caste, go back to ur hanuman chalisa
@rockingakshay7465
@rockingakshay7465 3 жыл бұрын
@@gurbindra1349 Thate very rude i dont know who teach you to hate other religion. You are watching jagraj singh videos yet you have not learned the basics of Sikhism
@gurbindra1349
@gurbindra1349 3 жыл бұрын
@@rockingakshay7465 lmao i've seen this "sourav videos" user spew hate on sikhs in other videos, using much more offensive remarks than what I have, this is why I responded like that, otherwise it's cool
@sukhlegend2614
@sukhlegend2614 8 жыл бұрын
bhaji, i cannot find the quote "Chaar varan ik varan karaaon, tabei Gobind Singh naam kahaaun" in punjabi, can you help? where it was cited?
@Gaganwalia4179
@Gaganwalia4179 3 жыл бұрын
SGGS p1128)
@lordgawain
@lordgawain 4 жыл бұрын
The big difference is that sikh scriptures are anti caste system and hindu scriptures are pro caste system. So its not in our roots. Youngsters are growing out of It I believe with the SGGSji translation available. People are reading what sikhi really is about & follow Guru.
@totalentertainment6853
@totalentertainment6853 3 жыл бұрын
No brother it is nowhere mentioned in the bhagwat geeta about caste system. Its actually called the "varna"(वर्ण व्यवस्था) but later on it got spoiled. And people started discriminating the lower caste sanatanis(हिन्दू).
@aryanverma5467
@aryanverma5467 3 жыл бұрын
@@totalentertainment6853 read geeta properly
@aryanverma5467
@aryanverma5467 3 жыл бұрын
Read Br Ambedkar book on Hinduism He has shown proper proof of geeta supporting the vedas Geeta has always supported varna system which says your quality is also based on your varna.and every varna has a fixed duty (karma)
@sunilvarma3532
@sunilvarma3532 3 жыл бұрын
@@aryanverma5467 Shut up about Ambedkar, next you'll ask people to read colonialist versions of our great texts with false commentries.
@lalkrishnsolanki
@lalkrishnsolanki 2 жыл бұрын
Hey little shit. Don't blame for your shit on Hinduism. First read about Hinduism and then bark. Even your holy book says about upper and lower caste, not ours. Here is the verse from Bhagwad Geeta on Varna system . ब्राह्मणक्षत्रियविशां शूद्राणां च परन्तप | कर्माणि प्रविभक्तानि स्वभावप्रभवैर्गुणै: ||18:41 The duties of the Brahmins, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas, and Shudras-are distributed according to their qualities, in accordance with their guṇas ( ब्राह्मण, क्षत्रिय और वैश्यों के तथा शूद्रों के कर्म स्वभाव से उत्पन्न गुणों द्वारा विभक्त किए गए हैं) Means Varna system is based on profession decided by gunas which are developed by karma. But read sggs in ang 1. ਹੁਕਮੀ ਉਤਮੁ ਨੀਚੁ ਹੁਕਮਿ हुकमी उतमु नीचु हुकमि By his(god) command some are high ( higher caste) and some are low (lower caste). So before barking look at your own scriptures. Of course my words are bitter but truth.
@San2Singh1
@San2Singh1 10 жыл бұрын
Very good!! Very well explained and worded..
@gauravacharya5946
@gauravacharya5946 2 жыл бұрын
The voice in starting is very pleasant... I am hindu Brahmin and yes there was so much discrimination in our society when i was a kid all 4 Varna actually treated Dalits/harijan in ver bad way but what i absorb is new generation is changing atleast i can see it... I have been punjab and i founded same pattern with majhabi sikh and dalit sikh they were not treated weel there too ... I hope that one day dream of govind singh ji maharaj will came true and all sanatani castes remove all their differences.
@sigma4220
@sigma4220 2 жыл бұрын
They are still treated better than dalits of up
@gauravacharya5946
@gauravacharya5946 2 жыл бұрын
@@laba3423 mere man ne ya na man ne se hindu muslim ka frk khtm nahi hoga. Qur'an me iski sakth manyi hai ki kisi bhi mushriq,murtad,kafir se dosti karne ki. Aur saf kaha gaya hai jab ap akhliyat me ho to unhe ya to convert karo ya apne state se bahar karo . Mohmmad ke akhri lafz yahi the ki koi bhi mushriq meqqa me Na rahe unhe ya to khatam kr do ya bahar nikal do. Upar likhi sabhi bato ka proof me Qur'an aur shahih Hadiths (bukhari,muslim, dawood) se de sakta hu . Ye problem kisi bhi aur relegion me nahi hai chahe vo jewism, christanism, zorastrian, sikhism ,budhhism, hindusim , Jainism ho. Problem ye nahi hai ki hindu ya sikh muslim ke bare me kya sochta hai problem ye hai ki quran aur hadiths apke aur hamare bare me kya sikhati hai . Muje kisi bhi relegion se koi problem nahi hai sivay us relegion ke jise sbse problem hai . Aur me apko challange de skta hu har chij pr bcz mene unhe khud ke relegion se jada padha hai . Aur aaj hi 30 sikh aur Afghanistan se special flight se aa rahe hai aur ye bat sabit karne ke lie kafi hai upr likhi bato ki gavahi dene k lie . (Kabhi debate krni ho to jarur yad krna )
@gunner9936
@gunner9936 4 жыл бұрын
From the Gita, The emphasis is on guna (aptitude) and karma (function) and not on jaati (birth). The varna or the order to which we belong is independent of sex, birth or breeding. A varna is determined by temperament and vocation - not by birth or heredity.
@aryanverma5467
@aryanverma5467 3 жыл бұрын
Read chapter 18
@aryanverma5467
@aryanverma5467 3 жыл бұрын
Geeta also says that guna is inherent by ones varna
@aryanverma5467
@aryanverma5467 3 жыл бұрын
You guys always make wrong interpretation to mislead dalits
@aryanverma5467
@aryanverma5467 3 жыл бұрын
Who determine varna? Answer? Bhoot? Its your parents varna. Even Ram was a by birth kastriya
@TheChandanrandhawa
@TheChandanrandhawa 10 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! How can we change this amongst Sikhs, that's the real struggle.
@jazsingh550
@jazsingh550 11 жыл бұрын
brilliant... very well explained. thanks
@bankimmondal9043
@bankimmondal9043 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice talk and nice example of experiment...
@jamalicon1
@jamalicon1 7 жыл бұрын
there is no caste system in sikhism, because sikhism came out of hinduism many sikhs have remnant of hindu caste system.
@ElGringozable
@ElGringozable 6 жыл бұрын
I am Hindu and I can say that the caste system is category of professions for that time, context. People have maliciously incorporated caste into culture / religion. People have distorted religion to their own benefits, so sad. Caste system is unjust and should disappear.
@simranmehtab3757
@simranmehtab3757 5 жыл бұрын
ElGringozable that’s why Guru Nanak dev ji rejected it and sikhi started.
@gunner9936
@gunner9936 4 жыл бұрын
you should know the Gita doesnt talk about a caste system only order.
@sunilvarma3532
@sunilvarma3532 3 жыл бұрын
The Varna system is a core part of Hinduism and was prevalent throughout the world (see 4 noble professions in China, compare Kshatriya code with that of the Samurai, many more examples). It is a part of the Vedas, Prabhu Krishna and Rama were Kshatriya, if you want to make our varna system disappear. You may as well leave Hinduism and become a Sikh extremist, tell lies and turn your back on Dharma.
@anupamprasad9645
@anupamprasad9645 Жыл бұрын
​@@sunilvarma3532 i spit on hindu caste system There is no discrimination gurudwaras Nodbody asks in gurudwars the caste of the devotee
@sunilvarma3532
@sunilvarma3532 Жыл бұрын
@@anupamprasad9645 do you mean the vedic Varna system? if yes, you spit on all of dharma. Who do you think taught the Sikhs how to fight? if not Kshatriya
@AmarSingh-ux2fq
@AmarSingh-ux2fq 10 жыл бұрын
Genius with Guru Mat and Guru ki kirpa;)
@ramankatoch7119
@ramankatoch7119 2 жыл бұрын
Who told him that vaishyas and shudras cannot get "mukti" just because they don't wear Janeu ??
@PeaceDayCortez
@PeaceDayCortez 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Thank you.
@gurgia7
@gurgia7 4 жыл бұрын
A co-worker told me that eastindian boys are discriminating against other eastindian boys based on last name and caste. This is happening in Edmonton Alberta Canada.He asked why students in (Tempo-School) bully other students using their last name and caste.His other question was if caste an issue in Indian society in Canada. I told him it is the singers and song writers, also the film industry of Punjab is also to blame, which promotes caste ideology and a gang culture. it is against Sikhs to practice caste based hate which is nothing less than racism. How can we ask for equality when some of us discriminate based on caste. i am posting this on face book in hopes leaders of Gurdwaras and Sikh schools will discuss this matter of our youth forsaking Sikhism and walking on the the wrong path of discrimination that is caste based. It seems the parents of Sikh boys need to have a discussion with their children as to why Sikhs oppose caste and how dangerous the caste system is and how many lives are lost in India due to caste-discrimination. Another teacher who was a part time military officer in the Canadian Armed Forces also asked me this question many years back in regards to caste hate that is and what Sikhism preaches etc. Sikhs need to be on the guard in regards to our youth on how they are being influenced by caste. If the Sikh community ignores this from leadership and parental levels, this will cause great concern and a threat from within Sikhism. we all know the RSS is always trying to destroy Sikhism via caste ideology, Sikhism is and always will be at war with the idea of caste and caste hate. caste is similar to Nazi or the KKK belief that one human is superior to another human. Sikhs should be concerned with one question how do other non-Indian communities view our youth? Do they view them as a discriminatory group or youth that belong to a people who promote equality for all of humanity Nav Singh
@sunilvarma3532
@sunilvarma3532 3 жыл бұрын
Racism, lol you are such a dumbass. Comparing your own hindu family to KK and Nazi is a hateful extremist mentality. Dharma will destroy the destroyed, goodbye.
@kaurdhesi4405
@kaurdhesi4405 11 жыл бұрын
Bhaji, who sang the simran in the beginning of your video? Can you give a link or something please?
@faithnegator
@faithnegator 3 жыл бұрын
Qi Rattan. I know its 7 yrs late, but someone should have answered you.
@kaurdhesi4405
@kaurdhesi4405 3 жыл бұрын
@@faithnegator awesome! thank you so much 🙏🏻😊
@yash-lu7qp
@yash-lu7qp 3 жыл бұрын
@@faithnegator This is funny. lol.
@Aryvrt
@Aryvrt 2 жыл бұрын
Caste is not rigid. Shudra is the most skilled Varna. Please stop propagating incorrect information. Noone is upper or lower based on their Caste or Varna + it's Shatriya not khatriya
@JATTbythegraceofGOD
@JATTbythegraceofGOD 10 жыл бұрын
I agree, we should not follow the Hindu caste system, but why do people hate on Jatts? We are not a caste.
@thejattlord
@thejattlord 8 жыл бұрын
+lovesikhi You can be a Jatt and Sikh. We are Scythians (Europeans) who follow Sikhism. Simple.
@justhumanhuman3461
@justhumanhuman3461 8 жыл бұрын
+thejattlord Jatts are Romanian Gypies.Good luck with your OBC Reservation.Poor farmers to poor Gypies.Sudras.Low Caste.
@justhumanhuman3461
@justhumanhuman3461 8 жыл бұрын
+lovesikhi no mate.Jaats are poor farmers.Romanian Gypies.You are uneducated farmers.Who are you looking down upon.Jaats are fighting for OBC reservation from Mr.Modi.You farming is fcuked ,doing really bad.Jaats are Sudras.Low Caste, working class.Wot so high about jaats.Are proud to be Romanian Gypies.
@gurbanichanan1215
@gurbanichanan1215 7 жыл бұрын
Sher Jatt bhai saab sat sri akal let me remind u of jat history .. jats were shudra till 17 history .. they were not even on maps. sikhi made them brave and they still say we did it and never give credit to gurus .. thats bad. everyone knows the history its in wikipedia also .. dont try to lie. regarding tarkhans they are 90 ℅ bearded and keep in line with sikhi .. they left race history cause they abided to guru and left castiesm . but u people still follow hindu caste system and say proudly we r nt humans like all we r jatts.. hahaha brahmins gave all shudras funny names like chamar - chamra worker Thoka- thokne wala lakdi ka worker and most funny jatt- jamini tattu u still proud. jatts history . lets talk about it u definately had great warriors .. who never claimed and wandered about like fools saying we r jatts thats why we r brave . gurus belonged to khatri community and they were one who raised u from that shudra status ..u were not capable of doing that .. if u were . till 17 century you were not slaves under brahmins .. majhbiz- they were the ones who got title .. rangrete guru ke bete.. not u .. mirza sahiba .. sassi punnu bekar bande .. all jatts .. dont consider this history .. they are vehles. jatts were so good till 19 century start.. they never were proud coz they knew where they come from .. but now a days .. a sudden surge has started called jattism which is nothing but haume hankaar .. kps gill . mr brar .. all responsible for 84 harmandir sahib attack . jatts do it badals killed punjab .. they are bains. singers started weopens and drugs. all jatts. history history history .. Suura so pehchnie jo lade deen ke het. your deen was to consider all equal as you promised gurus when you were slaves and asked gurus for help ki gal hun bhul ke ehsaan sab ..guru nu ditte wachan bhul gey.. remember jatt sikhs .. sikhs dont have caste.. nothing special about jatts .. just farming bro..really just farmers.. like us all . do you got six legs .m or you born with bells n whisles.. ja yr kam kr apda
@pavansingh650
@pavansingh650 6 жыл бұрын
Because of things like your username 😴
@1234kundal
@1234kundal 10 жыл бұрын
" Chaar varan ik varan karaaon " Why four only?? why not five as you mentioned there are five varan ? Even the fifth one should also get same opportunities.
@1234kundal
@1234kundal 9 жыл бұрын
***** Where do you classify so called "untouchable people"?
@1234kundal
@1234kundal 9 жыл бұрын
***** More Precisely Human Race should not follow caste system at all. I love Sikhism and i do follow "Manas Ki Jaat Sabhe Ek Pechaanbo"
@1234kundal
@1234kundal 8 жыл бұрын
69MrBunny I said I follow (not temple or gurudwara) and i don't follow anyone blindly. I can pick whatever i feel good in any religious place. But i do agree with ur JOKE part!
@1234kundal
@1234kundal 8 жыл бұрын
***** you have written absolutely correct. But tell me where its written that Shudra generation has to be Shudra or Shatriya Sons has to be shatriya. There is a problem in implementation of theses ideas. Its almost 400 to 500 (from Guru nanak era) and still people get discriminated on the basis on many parameter even though gurwani says "ek noor te sab jag upja". I request all the religious Sikh teacher to come up with innovative ways to teach, so that people start following Gurwani outside the Gurdwara also. Currently there is some disconnect . (I am writing this based on my life experience. and not in intention to do debate)
@simransidhu3444
@simransidhu3444 4 жыл бұрын
The foundation and justification of the caste system is the Vedic concept of karmic reincarnation. This is why karmic reincarnation is rejected by Gurū, contrary to common misinterpretations of references to the Vedic “chaurassi lakh joon” in GurBānī.
@simransidhu3444
@simransidhu3444 3 жыл бұрын
G K, Gurū Sahib is quite clear that no-one knows what happens before birth and after death. Bhagat Kabīr Ji describes life as an apple that falls from a tree - once it falls, it cannot be reattached. Bhai Gurdās Ji’s vārs open by describing Gurū Nānak Sahib as the one who freed us from “janam-maran ka bhau” or “fear of reincarnation”. Because Gurū Sahib is addressing people who understand the world through the Vedic paradigm of “chaurassi lakh joon”, reference is made to it to explain how - without Nām - they will be trapped in such concepts. Sadly, many Sikh parchāraks divorce pangthis from the wider context, and end up locking in on Vedic or Puranic references and see little else. Thus the _bhāv arth_ (intended meaning) of the lines disappears, and we’re left thinking Sikhi is just one of many branches of Hinduism instead of a total rejection of its tenets.
@simransidhu3444
@simransidhu3444 3 жыл бұрын
G K, you are right. No Sikh believes that we are Hindus. Yet it is extraordinary how many Sikhs (including Basics of Sikhi, Nanak Naam, etc.) interpret Sikhi along Hindu lines. This is because the standard is set by Damdami Taksal, which claims lineage to Baba Deep Singh, and is home to an elite group of “Brahm Gyanis” who they claim were entrusted with the secret “real” knowledge of Sikhi. Of course, these are just stories. Stories that don’t fit with the democratised spirituality of Gurū Nānak Sahib. BoS and NN prachaaraks all hail from the Taksal. They consider the unverified writings of the so-called “Dasam Granth” to be GurBānī attributed to Sri Gurū Gobind Singh Ji Maharāj. They use its Hindu ideas as a Rosetta Stone for how to interpret GurBānī.
@GS-km5yu
@GS-km5yu 5 жыл бұрын
Another amazing video, rip
@Aryvrt
@Aryvrt 2 жыл бұрын
Castes became rigid because our Gurukulas were destroyed and banned. Open your eyes and see the caste system around you in every human society. Caste system is a universal system of economics which you can't escape. Please stop this ideological non sense against Hinduism.
@thribhuc2827
@thribhuc2827 2 жыл бұрын
Under the Kakatiya in present day Telanagana we removed the caste system. But unfortunately we couldn’t hold on to our political power. Miri and piri- we didn’t have that.
@torsvaghavfiske2528
@torsvaghavfiske2528 4 жыл бұрын
Guru Nanak, Jesus Christ, The Buddha, Prophet Muhammad, Moses and Lord Krishna all taught the same thing.
@sunilvarma3532
@sunilvarma3532 3 жыл бұрын
Don't be foolish and compare Mo, Jesus or even Nanak to Prabhu Krishna. If they all taught the same thing, why did some religions practice conversion, why did some religions practice extreme violence and mass genocide and other religions have no history of that at all.
@simrenkaur5187
@simrenkaur5187 6 жыл бұрын
So the caste bhatra whats is it ??
@inmybox100
@inmybox100 4 жыл бұрын
Is it true that The Caste system is also in place with in Gurdwaras ? I have not seen it at work my self when I have visited them but told that it is , also why would it be that a lower caste Girls family would not allow her to marry a higher caste boy even if the boys family has no objections ?
@nsingh2527
@nsingh2527 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't heard of this before but I'm in England. Alot of malpractices happen in India though. Recently somebody pretended to be guru gobind singh ji and people followed him🤦‍♂️. Some people are delusional and do not actually follow true sikhi but an idea they have in their head. Sorry gor being so blunt about this
@inmybox100
@inmybox100 3 жыл бұрын
@@nsingh2527 I have seen this problem of Caste with in Sikhs from a very young age in the UK , sad to say that the teachings of the Gurus are not being followed Sikhs are like my fellow Indian Muslims they follow customs from back home rather than what the Holy books say , we just have to look at today Its the Holy day of Divali for Hindus yet Sikh Friends are sending me Greeting saying happy Divali when they should be sending me greetings of Bandi Shor Diva , Even the BBC are making it look as if Hindus and Sikhs are the same ,
@nsingh2527
@nsingh2527 3 жыл бұрын
@@inmybox100 yeah I understand that but it wasn't always called bandi chor. Guru Hargobind Sahib Ji was called bandi chor. The day was changed to bandi chor not in the gurus times but later to avoid confusion. You can watch the basics of sikhi video that was posted yesterday👍
@inmybox100
@inmybox100 3 жыл бұрын
@@nsingh2527 thanks for that .A lot of what I have learnd about sikhi comes from the net and from visits to Ghudwara .when Sikh friends tell me something I then need to look it up to see if it's a fact . Thanks for the information 😁
@nsingh2527
@nsingh2527 3 жыл бұрын
@@inmybox100 a lot of people who are of a religion don't search about their own religion but I feel like its important to know the facts because sometimes families beliefs could be different
@lucaswitts4132
@lucaswitts4132 9 жыл бұрын
Very insightful, I'm not fully educated on the caste system can someone explain a bit more please?
@sunilvarma3532
@sunilvarma3532 3 жыл бұрын
Best to ask a knowledgeable Hindu, the Sikhs just make stuff up as they go along.
@shimankumaheshwari6904
@shimankumaheshwari6904 2 жыл бұрын
@@sunilvarma3532 Best is to follow religion of love and compassion and general common sense...
@funlow3003
@funlow3003 3 жыл бұрын
If guru Gobind Singh ji say this 4 caste ko ek karne kii baat and I also respect all 10 gurus but I don't understand if sikhs against caste then why they support in indian constitution so many caste or posts in india Such as Prime Minister, home minister. Ias, IPS, hawaldar, peon, Lawyer, etc And I have one more question can ias officer go hawaldar house for dinner and can hawaldar go ias officer level party
@BZaildar
@BZaildar 11 жыл бұрын
Very nice explanation; but from exp I have notice major diff in common values of people in diff cast systems. I know most of you say no it depends on person to person. But I believe that when you stay in the circle of your cast system you also adopt some of the values (good or bad) And when you interact/marry with other cast you will have conflict. I hope this change in future, and we mix a lot more under one God,so that this cast system totally disappear But we got long way to go
@DocRealTalk
@DocRealTalk 10 жыл бұрын
Im not Skih but I this was a brilliant analysis the caste system! Wish more people in India would have this outlook. Part III -Untouchability & Casteism (Castes) Still EXISTS even Today in India- 2013-..Must Watch It
@sunilvarma3532
@sunilvarma3532 3 жыл бұрын
It was absolute rubbish analysis, full of lies and half-truths. Sikhs are turning to religious extremism, just as the Isha Upanishad predicted.
@DocRealTalk
@DocRealTalk 3 жыл бұрын
@@sunilvarma3532 I don't think you even understood what I said. I even provided a video which backs up what I said.
@sunilvarma3532
@sunilvarma3532 3 жыл бұрын
Is this guy a Sikh Scholar or does he just make stuff up as he goes along? No wonder Sikhs are so lost. Caste is not the same as Varna (you are confusing with linear Jati system that your masters, the British implemented in India), three of the Varna's are considered Dwij, not two. Then you claim that there are 5 castes, then you say the guru told you to make all 4 varnas into one. 4 and 5 are different numbers. Then that monkey story at the end is made up, based on a real experiment, but you tell it as a half-truth. You should change the title of this video to Sikhs and Caste - Propaganda and half truths
@ramneek07able
@ramneek07able 3 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏veerji was awesome
@realtalk3968
@realtalk3968 2 жыл бұрын
These is no caste system in Islam Alhumdulillah. God looks at one’s actions not their cast to judge an individual.
@funlow3003
@funlow3003 3 жыл бұрын
I think all are think If I abuse and find mistakes from Sanatan dharm then I am so famous but no one try to know what is Castism and what is varna system
@lallimann8952
@lallimann8952 6 жыл бұрын
plz make vids in punjabi also....so i can show these to my parents
@jaswinderdhaliwal2013
@jaswinderdhaliwal2013 10 жыл бұрын
The monkey story is very similar to the Stanford Prison Experiment. That only took 6 days to develop these certain personalties of superiority. I wonder how long it will take to change generations with this upbringing and mentality.
@iqbaljitsingh5927
@iqbaljitsingh5927 10 жыл бұрын
the new gen i think is quite changed, its our parents' gen that is stuck in the mindset, ie im a jatt gurmukh intersted in marrying a singhni of khatri background, but my father disapproves ignoring her merits as a gurmukh all because she isnt jatt, not even old school jatts in Guru's time were like this, for them it was always sikhi first over their caste, Guru Gobind Singh's rules always took precedence over their pride. basically our community has been brainwashed to think that the caste makes you great, when its sikhi that makes one great. they're using the reputation of sikhs of the past to boast themselves today when they aret even .01% the sikhs the jatts were in the past, this goes for other castes too
@jedimaster9922
@jedimaster9922 7 жыл бұрын
How about the Gurus.
@iqbaljitsingh5927
@iqbaljitsingh5927 7 жыл бұрын
actually i've done some reading and learned that khatris, rajputs are also Jatt/jaat. We form the Kshatriya varna/race of ancient india. They are all Jatts, those that moved to cities were called khatris and those that moved to Rajasthan were called Rajputs. Veera Bhadra created from the Jatta (Hair) of Shiva is the progenitor of our race and the first Jatt (the being created from the Jatta of Brahm Gyani Shiva) Veera Bhadra means powerful warrior, he married the many daughers of King Daksha who was one of the first humans in india adn this laid the foundation fo the Jatt and hence Kshatriya Warrior Varna.
@iqbaljitsingh5927
@iqbaljitsingh5927 7 жыл бұрын
khatri, Rajput, jatts/jaats/jatro are the same Varna of Kshatriya, hence they are all Jatts. Jatts who did city work were called Khatri and those that moved to Rajasthan Rajput. But its the same blood.
@jedimaster9922
@jedimaster9922 7 жыл бұрын
***** Khatri is brahmin/vaishya,rajput is kshatriya while jatt is shudra.Just because jatts became rich does not make them kshtriya.Will you call mayawati kshtriya tomorrow.
@tomashromnik108
@tomashromnik108 4 ай бұрын
The original varnashrama system was meant for spiritual progress of society. The modern caste system is a degradation of traditional vedic system of varnashrama where everyone had his prescribed duties to elevate their consciousness.
@gaurigupta8045
@gaurigupta8045 2 жыл бұрын
Nonsense!!No where in Hindu scriptures its written that you need to be a Brahmin or a kshatriya To attain salvation.Please read Bhagvad Geeta properly!! Caste system in Hindu scriptures is not based on birth. Ved vyasji who compiled Vedas was a fisherwoman's son. Valmikiji who wrote Ramayana was not a brahmin or a kshatriya. Karan in mahabharata was not killed when he picked up weapons. In Bhagvad Geeta also Its is no where mentioned that caste system is on birth. In vedas there is no where mentioned that to attain mukti You need to be a Brahmin or a kshatriya
@kpujakrishnaa
@kpujakrishnaa 2 жыл бұрын
I've been reading shrimad bhagavad gita... I haven't completed reading it and was shocked to hear such things this man was saying in this video...thanks for helping me to acknowledge the truth.. Hare krishna
@detectivesdelhi
@detectivesdelhi 3 жыл бұрын
Caste system is not Indian system. Casta is a Portuguese word. Caste system is rigid and European. Varna system is Indian and flexible and not based on birth.
@tayyabkhan2228
@tayyabkhan2228 2 жыл бұрын
he didnt explain his caste?
@satish2975
@satish2975 6 жыл бұрын
thank God I saved my life and my future and my future offspring , castism in sikh , I m shocked , castism in islam I m shocked , even islam has no castism only shiya sunni who are their own believe not cast. bt hinduism influence all religion in india either sikh or muslim to follow cast,
@jamal8738
@jamal8738 3 жыл бұрын
Islam has castes converted hindus follow caste system in islam like tyagi muslim jat muslim rangar muslim etc
@SpartanSpirit300
@SpartanSpirit300 3 жыл бұрын
Islam par bhi caste haa bro not only Shia and Sunni! Ahmedia, Ismaili, Pathan, Shaikh, Syed, Quershi, aur bhu kitne haa
@SpartanSpirit300
@SpartanSpirit300 3 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rpubldxqxNfXpnU.html Check this video casteism in islam. Hinduism, Sikhi, Islam haar religion ke log discrimination karte haa mene suna haa Buddhism me bhi hota haa
@JamesBond-zr1qf
@JamesBond-zr1qf 10 ай бұрын
So much disinformation! The janeu was to initiate the three varna, not just Brahmin and Kshatriya. And the janeu is just a piece of thread, to signify their devotion to the Vedic panth. Would a Sikh allow a clean shaven man to recite Gurbani in gurdwara, even without wearing a headscarf or turban?
@Geertwilders865
@Geertwilders865 3 жыл бұрын
Also although sikhs dont practise it openly but internally they do it
@Geertwilders865
@Geertwilders865 3 жыл бұрын
Also not letting your girls married in muslims also comes from same mentality ( see the recent case in kashmir )
@HK20207
@HK20207 11 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, everyone should watch. Feel really sad that im going through problems with my marriage due to caste his parents just wont agree because he supposedly belong to a high case compared to my family :-( ,
@gunner9936
@gunner9936 4 жыл бұрын
He obvioulsy didnt read the Gita, to obatain moksh isnt by birth, that is ridiculous and nonsense, that goes against all teachings of the Gita, please read this Sikhs and you will be true Sikhis Attaining moksha. In the Bhagavad Gita, Lord Krishna tells Arjuna that one should give up everything and surrender to Him, and if one were to do this, moksha is assured. ... He knows that Krishna is the Supreme One, the only One capable of granting moksha
@gunner9936
@gunner9936 4 жыл бұрын
ekavarṇama idama pūrvaṃ viśvama āsida yudhiśthira karmakriyāviśesena caturvarṇyama pratiśthitama Even the distinction between caste and outcaste is artificial and unspiritual. An ancient verse points out that the Brahmin and the outcaste are blood brothers.  antyajo viprajātiśa ca eka eva sahodaraḥ ekayoniprasūtas ca ekasākhena jāyate In the Mahabharata, Yudhishthira says that it is difficult to find out the cast of persons on account of the mixture of castes. Men beget offspring in all sorts of women. So conduct is the only determining feature of caste according to the sages. The four-fold order is designed for human evolution. There is nothing absolute about the case system which has changed its character in the process of history. Today it cannot be regarded as anything more than an insistence on a variety of ways in which the social purpose can be carried out. Functional groupings will never be out of date. As for marriages - they will happen among those who belong to more or less the same stage of cultural development
@gurbindra1349
@gurbindra1349 3 жыл бұрын
wdym by read this sikhs and we will be true sikhs??
@gurbindra1349
@gurbindra1349 3 жыл бұрын
if ur giving importance to a fantasy wonderland like hanuman krishna i have nothing to say but laugh at u, these are made up stories which the whole world laughs at u for
@kpujakrishnaa
@kpujakrishnaa 2 жыл бұрын
@@gurbindra1349 do u even know how rapidly sanatam dharma is growing in foreign countries like russia etc...first go and get some knowledge... Fools like u can't understand shri krishna.. U Better read bhagavad gita and gain some human values knowledge
@kpujakrishnaa
@kpujakrishnaa 2 жыл бұрын
@@gurbindra1349 do u even know how rapidly sanatam dharma is growing in foreign countries like russia etc...first go and get some knowledge... Fools like u can't understand shri krishna.. U Better read bhagavad gita and gain some human values knowledge
@lakhbirkaur9581
@lakhbirkaur9581 7 жыл бұрын
The Bhat Sikh community is the only community of Sikhs that originated from Inter-Caste marriages between Rajputs, Jats, Gujars, Khatris and Southern Brahmins where they came from in Sri Lanka and Southern India. Other castes dislike Bhats, but if any caste is true in their Sikhism. The Bhat Sikhs are.
@gunner9936
@gunner9936 4 жыл бұрын
I am Punjabi and Hindu, he is wrong he hasnt read the Gita, the caste system is not linked to the religion, this is BS need stop spreading hate, caste is a english word that doesnt translate to Sanskrit, there is a Varna order, it means order and these professions were based on merit the culture croupted it, anybody can attain moksh it doesnt matter what varna you were born in, please read our texts before you spread nonesense. Jai Sri Ram.
@jakharkartik1152
@jakharkartik1152 4 жыл бұрын
Hey people .. As we all knew jats were considered as shudras by pandits ,we were not allowed to enter temple ...thanks to guru Maharaj 🙏... But if you see if a person back in period was even not allowed to use common public resources ....and now they are reaching new heights .. becoming president (choudhary Charan Singh) and there many more examples ....so I as a Jat I'm proud of my Jat clan even he is Muslim ,sikh,hindu ..even though iam against the rigidity of casteism..but one should be proud of its success ..and so we are .. Satsri akal ji 🙏
@nirmalkaurkhalsa4288
@nirmalkaurkhalsa4288 11 жыл бұрын
thanx for the explanation
@billubhai5644
@billubhai5644 Жыл бұрын
Much of you said is wrong. Read hindu philosophy before commenting on chatur varnasharam
@scientificbeekeepersofjammu
@scientificbeekeepersofjammu 3 жыл бұрын
Sikhism has caste system only because of one reason. The reason is they intermarry with Caste Hindus. As a Sikh we don't believe in caste system but when a Hindu girl came in our home after marriage, things changed. They are biased to certain castes which is evident in their behaviour, subsequently this bias percolate down to next generation and despite borned into Sikh family, their behaviour with other castes remain same. If we had to stop Casteism in sikhism, we had to stop intermarriages with caste Hindus
@Ryan-jk5xn
@Ryan-jk5xn 3 жыл бұрын
muslims have caste too. its an indian problem not only hindu
@sunilvarma3532
@sunilvarma3532 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ryan-jk5xn so are the four noble professions of China Indian, duh. The Varna system is the original archetypes of mankind.
@Ryan-jk5xn
@Ryan-jk5xn 3 жыл бұрын
@@sunilvarma3532 what are you saying?
@sunilvarma3532
@sunilvarma3532 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ryan-jk5xn that what you call as the caste system, was a worldwide practice from the Samurai to celtic warriors. It all comes from Kshatriya dharma, which is most definitely Hindu.
@Ryan-jk5xn
@Ryan-jk5xn 3 жыл бұрын
@@sunilvarma3532 I already know that but sure
@MrAbhayansh
@MrAbhayansh 6 жыл бұрын
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ , ਮੇਰੇ ਨਿਕੇ ਨਿਕੇ ਸੁਪਨੇ ਆ , please ਤੁਸਿ ਪੁਰੀ ਕਰ deyo 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@ak4shii458
@ak4shii458 5 жыл бұрын
Bravo!!! A typical JATT response, this farmer is as much sikh as is the BRAHMIN, he reinforces the very system that our GURU'S DIED for, can't you sangat see this???
@gurveermatharu9727
@gurveermatharu9727 3 жыл бұрын
He is just giving historical information about how caste system came to enforcement.
@shrirambhandari1463
@shrirambhandari1463 7 жыл бұрын
It is no where written in the Hindu Shastras that only the Brahmins and Kshatriyas will get Mukti, I can quote the Upanishad if you want. It says some thing very different.
@jiti5034
@jiti5034 2 жыл бұрын
Cast system is bad no matter what religion,,, but this proves one thing Hindus are not teh only once to be blamed! even those egalitarian religions also have cats! LOL so why blame Hindus alone
@kpujakrishnaa
@kpujakrishnaa 2 жыл бұрын
Bcz they like to target hindus..simple
@pimpmastaa101
@pimpmastaa101 3 жыл бұрын
Jatt Sikh is an oxymoron
@ranimsafar8031
@ranimsafar8031 2 жыл бұрын
I think also some hindus from ``low casts`` are afraid that their `gods`` might get angry and punish them if they leave hinduism = supertition, thats why many stay in hinduism out of fear
@kpujakrishnaa
@kpujakrishnaa 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing like thay exists...a lot of hindus are converted to christianity ....its absolutely their wish ....we hindus never demand others to follow hinduism ...its his\her personal choice to wether convert or not
@kpujakrishnaa
@kpujakrishnaa 2 жыл бұрын
And yes...i belong to that so called lower castes u have mentioned ...#dalits and a hindu
@harveyepstein8256
@harveyepstein8256 2 жыл бұрын
caste was never meant to rigid jagraj always ignores this fact in the vedas
@ManjitKumar-fk5np
@ManjitKumar-fk5np 7 жыл бұрын
need to be educated .. just read the books of pro Gurnam Singh Mukatsar.. he introduced 8 edition then u can get the exact and correct information .. don't spread wrong information ... In a Sikhism there is no jattism .. stop it ..
@jazzbansal
@jazzbansal 5 жыл бұрын
Thinking ones better than their brothers or sisters... it’s called PRIDE ..!!! PRIDE comes before a fall. Having too much pride or confidence will cause one to make mistakes that lead to a setback or failure. The phrase is adapted from a verse in the book of Proverbs in the Bible: "Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall." Be humble u humans
@bbenezra1169
@bbenezra1169 7 жыл бұрын
That's when seek man aproval to worship God, when you follow man made religions.
@rp7159
@rp7159 2 жыл бұрын
Caste system is not rigid. Today there are people from all backgrounds, white, afro Caribbean, Chinese training up to be priests and have been doing it for decades. A carpenter only begets carpenter children doesn't sound logical does it? Or a doctor's son/daughter will also have a natural interest in medicine so will also end up as doctors, not logical. Today children from all backgrounds are choosing various careers which are totally different from their ancestors. Also, there's no mention of why there are different types of characteristics among all human beings....not everyone will take an interest in studying medicine or engineering or carpentry...hope you understand my point? You also didn't mention the role karma plays in any humans life while discussing this topic.
@lalkrishnsolanki
@lalkrishnsolanki 2 жыл бұрын
This is a slap on the face of those Sikhs who say that there is no discrimination in Sikhism and the caste system has been given by Hinduism. A verse from Bhagwad Geeta on Varna system. "The duties of the Brahmins, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas, and Shudras-are distributed according to their qualities, in accordance with their guṇas" 18:41 (हे परंतप! ब्राह्मण, क्षत्रिय और वैश्यों के तथा शूद्रों के कर्म स्वभाव से उत्पन्न गुणों द्वारा विभक्त किए गए हैं ) A line from Shree guru granth sahib. हुकमी उतमु नीचु हुकमि (ang 1) By His Command, some are high(upper caste) and some are low(lower caste) . So simply in Hinduism there is Varna system which is related to profession decided by gunas which are developed by karma but in Sikhism their god decide who will be upper caste and who will be lower caste. A personal request to all my hindu brothers, whenever someone blame Hinduism for their shit then reply them in their language🙌
@gaurigupta8045
@gaurigupta8045 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. This man said that Lower caste will be killed For Changing caste but the truth is Karan was Never killed for pucking up weapons. Ved vyasji was born out of intercaste Marriage.His mother was a fisherwoman
@lalkrishnsolanki
@lalkrishnsolanki 2 жыл бұрын
@@gaurigupta8045 The problem is that we (most hindus) don't have knowledge of our religion , it becomes our habits to listen bad about our religion, If we have knowledge about both religions then we can easily shut up their mouths. We didn't have knowledge that's why Sikhism came into existence. We didn't have knowledge that why Muslims is here in South Asia.
@lalkrishnsolanki
@lalkrishnsolanki 2 жыл бұрын
@@laba3423 There are lot of non brahmin priest in hindu temples ,, I have enough knowledge about Hinduism, and I don't have any problems with non brahmin priest. In practically, it's very rare that someone discriminated for their caste , and discrimination among caste also happening in sikh community
@anupamprasad9645
@anupamprasad9645 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but does anybody follow that guna system A person claims to be pandit just bcz his fatger is pandit without having the knlwledge of vedas If it was according gunas why dont u guys declare a sc st obc working in bsf army a rajput bcz his work is of a warrior Why dont u guys declare a sc st obc a teacher having a teaching job Hindu system was shit
@lalkrishnsolanki
@lalkrishnsolanki Жыл бұрын
@@anupamprasad9645 If a system changes from it's original state that doesn't mean that system have problem it's mean those people have problems who changed it and follow it. Now a days varna system is not in practice it's caste system given by constitution so how can we change constitution. If someone ask me if warrior from st/st called as kshatriya ? Definitely My response will be positive. So tell me,, Our background is farming and , Can you please guess my varna?
@SaveUall
@SaveUall 3 жыл бұрын
Most of the things u told were wrong. Clearly shows your low knowledge about caste. Sikhs also have caste system. Irrespective of what gurus said.
@Cartar.11
@Cartar.11 3 жыл бұрын
No such thing as castes. We are all equal
@topicsnow7014
@topicsnow7014 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone should take Measures if Want to abolish Caste system.
@topicsnow7014
@topicsnow7014 3 жыл бұрын
In Sikh religion also Many tell there and use surnames, not all but most do that and in Comment section every one is blaming one only ,First they did not accepted as lifestyle was harsh and As Machinery and Population is high now everyone Wants Abolish this , want to Abolish
@harinderk9738
@harinderk9738 8 жыл бұрын
What cast is surname jagpal?
@roopkaur8248
@roopkaur8248 8 жыл бұрын
+Undisclosed Undisclosed what is Ramgharia??
@harinderk9738
@harinderk9738 8 жыл бұрын
+Ekroop Kaur a caste
@roopkaur8248
@roopkaur8248 8 жыл бұрын
+Harinder K wat caste
@roopkaur8248
@roopkaur8248 8 жыл бұрын
+Harinder K like what type
@roopkaur8248
@roopkaur8248 8 жыл бұрын
+Undisclosed Undisclosed fit? wat do u mean?
@hemantmehndi
@hemantmehndi 5 жыл бұрын
sir wrong .... Hindus never had caste system ...but varna vyavastha. Which is totalllyyyy different what had happened. You're forgetting India was under rule for 1000 years and a lot of wrong ideas were spread.
@Dr_Tesla_
@Dr_Tesla_ 4 жыл бұрын
Hindu Religion me Cast Systems hai and bht Discrimination hai, that's why Sikhism came in to Existence, Sikhism has EQUALITY.. But now I came to know that their is cast system in Sikhism also, Ravidasiya mahizab Dalit sikhs etc.. But Guru Gobind Dev ji ne sabko apna and barabar samjha tha.. phir ye sab kyu. Sun k bht dukh hua ki isme bhi Hindu Religion jaisa hai.. I think JAINISM LINGAYATISM and BUDDHISM is best where their is no cast System. Every one is Treated equally.. People in Sikhism should treat people Equally, as Equality is the basis of this religion..Guru dev ji aaj hote to unhe bht dukh hota .
@nsingh2527
@nsingh2527 3 жыл бұрын
In sikhi people are treated equally but the 'sikh caste system' that he was talking about was one that is falsely fabricated by non-practicing sikhs
@abcdefgh9513
@abcdefgh9513 4 жыл бұрын
ANY BODY BELIEVE OR NOT BUT THIS IS TRUTH BY JEANS DNA ACTUALLY ALSO WE WERE HINDU WE ARE HINDU WE WILL REMAIN HINDU THAT'S WHY THIS CAST SYSTEM IS IN OUR BLOOD
@prateekpal3646
@prateekpal3646 Жыл бұрын
Your understanding of the Hindu caste system is blatantly wrong. 1. There's not just 4 major types. It's incredibly complex. Some conservative estimates suggest the numbers to be around 3000. Majority of whom do not fall in the 4 major castes mentioned here. 2. Caste is not linked to enlightenment. There is no such religious sanction in Vedas or any authoritative Hindu texts. 3. Varna system in ancient Bharat was linked to work and was not a 'system' for exploitation as suggested here. Many castes which are labeled 'lower' have been integral to the functioning if the society. And do it to this day. 4. Caste is social thing. From a religious POV, there's many paths for enlightenment in Hinduism which have nothing to caste. Including, following of Dharma, Karma, Bhakti, Yoga, Tantra, learning through a Guru, service and many others. 5. The castes have been segregated in higher and lower because of the superimposition of class system imported from the colonials, who saw the caste system as a class system and started favouring one over the others. Including recorded usage of caste movement as an incentive to mobilize sections of Indian society 6. It's becoming an increasingly irrelevant part of modern Hindu religion and society but caste identities will always exist. because caste is not just an exploitative system. It's a legitimate way to preserve vocational knowledge passed from one generation to the other. It's no coincidence that Khashtriyas are good at fighting or baniyas are good with money. They preserve and pass on this knowledge. Those who value these knowledge systems and culture will preserve it anyway.
@VARUNWITHSHARMA
@VARUNWITHSHARMA 10 жыл бұрын
And I want to add something to my earlier comment after reading some comments regarding Caste issue creating problem in marrying. Hinduism only request and emphasize to practise Gotra system. Gotra's remains same even if one change its Varn ( trade). For example: A brahmin can change its Varn to shudra( vice- versa). But, he/she should keep the same Gotra. Same Gotra marriages were not allowed to have a good Gene Pool for healthy off spring and healthy society.
@jattadeputt9880
@jattadeputt9880 Жыл бұрын
Khatris were never Kshatriyas ! This is a baseless argument given by various Punjabis but - 1. Khatris never had a single kingdom throughout history and have no historic records before Sikhi. 2. The father of Guru Nanak was a humble shopkeeper, not a king or a warrior. 3. Throughout the history of Punjab, it was the Jats who went fighting the invaders, be it Ghazni, Ghori, Taimur or Babar, never khatris. 4. Making Khatri a synonym for Kshatriya just because it rhymes is funny and shows the lack of basic understanding of the history of Punjab. 5. Khatris were always cloth weavers and shopkeepers who had no native home and kept going from one place to another looking for work, in the case of Punjab - becoming shopkeepers in Jat villages. 6. Khatris mostly call themselves Punjabis instead of Khatris but technically they were outsiders to Punjab and are actually found throughout India - Bihar, Tamil Nadu, Gujrat, Maharashtra etc. 7. Rajputs never considered Khatris as Kshatriyas and never had any marriage alliances with Khatris(they never had a royal family) 8. Banias don't consider Khatris as Vaishyas and don't intermarry with them. Hence Khatris are an Avarna caste and are of mixed origins as their name reflects their occupational history and not race or varna. The word Khatri could have originated from Khaata (book keeping) or Khattar (cloth) occupations. Jats uplifted SIkhi, not the other way ! Sikhi is nothing but Baman-Bhappa propaganda which propagates the same dumb Vedic and puranic ideas for which innocent Jats fell. The history of Punjab and Northwest is the history of Buddha, Kushans & Harsha, know your past brothers and sisters ! We were all Shramanas, the people who discovered Dhyan, Samadhi, Yoga, and Ayurveda from which Brahmins learned and then completely destroyed the Shraman culture, the original culture of the subcontinent. 1. Budhha was not a Hindu, but they tried to call him Kshatriyas just like Guru Nanak. 2. Buddhist archaeology pre dates Hindu archaeology by centuries. 3. There is not even a single archaeological evidence of Vedic religion/culture before Christ. You may research and find out :) Cheers !
@TheApoorvc
@TheApoorvc 3 жыл бұрын
4 varan ek varan khaua k waqt char bol rhe ho janab aur khud describe krte waqq 5th extra add kr rahe ho..... stick with your stuff first
@GurpreetSingh-iv1ur
@GurpreetSingh-iv1ur 8 жыл бұрын
** to edit.....khalsa has no gender.
@cinefile0075
@cinefile0075 10 ай бұрын
Hinduism is a casteist religion with its scriptures not Sikhism. Still caste system is prevalent in Sikhs unfortunately
@bornagainhuman7581
@bornagainhuman7581 2 жыл бұрын
With all due respects, The so called caste system exists because the society is feudal in nature. Neither is India nor punjab industrialized. Yes India has some industries but large parts of the economy are still feudal. As long as their is no industrialization, the so called caste system will not go away. Do you know that around 30% of so called low caste punjabis own less than 5% of the agricultural land in Punjab ? The only way to bridge this divide is by industrializing, build infrastructure, schools etc and level the playing field so that everybody gets a fair opportunities.
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