Silent Industries Alpha with PDI 6.08 + R-hop?

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Жыл бұрын

My best results so far trying R-hoped barrels with Silent Industries Alpha chamber. I'm not happy at all with how my gun shoots - you can see lots of vertical inconsistency here and this is the best combo "bucking - lips tension ring - nub". I've tried all 4 tension rings and flathoped G&G 'green'q Madbull 'blue', Madbull 'red', Krytack 'orange' and Prometheus 'purple'. The most consistent result (least shots with vertical deviation) I have with Madbull 'red'. The main reason for this is not the chamber but the nub. The stock trolley even with modification is not suitable for M-nub longer than 4 mm. With 4 mm you don't have even enough contact with a 6 mm R-hop patch. 3D printed trolley with solid base for 6 mm M-nub overhops even with hop turned off. The M-nub must be shortened with the necessary precision to provide the flat surface contacting the patch.
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@chrisblack8224 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing the tests. Keep on the good work!

@stalinelie1088 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for all the tests you share with us. I love doing tests too and thanks to your videos I was able to make a very good set-up. For the vertical know that you get, check that the arm does not move in the hop-up wheel. The groove in the wheel is sometimes too wide.

@NikolayDimitrovFisher Жыл бұрын

Thanks. The play between the arm and groove in the wheel is negligible, almost imperceptible.

@m60user Жыл бұрын

Ive had less than stellar results with those buckings, as well as the Super macrons. The Supers seem to be "too grippy." Best result with a 70 macron ML in the M4W and Alpha

@NikolayDimitrovFisher Жыл бұрын

I'll try it, i have few 70° Super Macarons and MR hops laying around.

@robertocarloscastroloyola 4 ай бұрын

pasados de julios 1,5 y mucho.. falta mas hop up

@tannerg4511 Жыл бұрын

Hey so what bucking do you recommend with the M4W these days? Ive got a 260mm prommy

@NikolayDimitrovFisher Жыл бұрын

60° or 70° (Super) Macaron. Its patch fits perfectly in prommy window - photos.app.goo.gl/z1UVsd3vmdASJijn9

@tannerg4511 Жыл бұрын

@@NikolayDimitrovFishergood to know! Have you tried the begadi sph5 bucking?

@NikolayDimitrovFisher Жыл бұрын

@@tannerg4511 i have only mag5 on hand. Didn't see any advantages over SM.

@tannerg4511 9 ай бұрын

@@NikolayDimitrovFisher Hey! So I am running a SM thanks to your recommendation. I am considering buying a longer inner barrel and pairing it with the M4W and SM. Any suggestions on the barrel? Should I also consider getting the ML Omega nub?

@NikolayDimitrovFisher 9 ай бұрын

@@tannerg4511 with hard concave nub included in M4W you don't need the Omega. But it's good to have one in hand, just in case. Action Army or Maple Leaf barrels are good bang for their bucks and they seems to be made with SM and MR Hop AEG buckings in mind.

@fredericomendes5742 Жыл бұрын

Its nuts the spin inconsistency. You think the nub might be moving? Try a harder rubber maybe?

@NikolayDimitrovFisher Жыл бұрын

60° R-hop patches (EPDM rubber, not silicon) works great. I used Macaron 70° years ago with good results, but not as good as R-hop. I might give them another chance.

@fredericomendes5742 Жыл бұрын

@@NikolayDimitrovFisher those shots dont seem great. Some are overhoping by a lot.

@NikolayDimitrovFisher Жыл бұрын

@@fredericomendes5742 yes. Next I'll try different 3D printed trolley with 6 mm M-nub, i have perfect results with it in stock and M4W hopups.

@fredericomendes5742 Жыл бұрын

Oh i know. The issue is the SI Hop up :)

@Ghillister 4 ай бұрын

Hey, is there a link for the trolley, maybe to print it self ? U have test the da vinci raizen 6.05mm w r hop?

@NikolayDimitrovFisher 4 ай бұрын

www.thingiverse.com/thing:6476884 It's made for 3 mm nub.

@NikolayDimitrovFisher 4 ай бұрын

I've not tested davinci barrels and i'm curious how their "R" code barrel will perform with R-hop.

@christopherhayto1089 Жыл бұрын

I wonder if patch is to grippy?

@NikolayDimitrovFisher Жыл бұрын

Yes, usually this is the first thing to check but this particular barrel + patch works perfectly with stock hopup & with M4W, both with M-nub. This is almost the same barrel and patch as the first combo in my previous test - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bqd6a5d6safKqX0.html

@thepompking8842 4 ай бұрын

You do realize inconsistent shots are because the r hop is not properly broke in right? Every r hop is like this umbrella armory says it takes at least 5k shots to start seeing good performance

@NikolayDimitrovFisher 4 ай бұрын

This is not the case here. As i wrote in the description - the nub is the reason. The same barrel is used in this test - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e8dhqK-UubzRiGg.html with much better results where i have used a soft flat SI nub. The barrel has not been used between those two tests so the R-hop patch is the same.

@Toni.Sky_R32Gtr 6 ай бұрын

What a Range do you Shot ?

@NikolayDimitrovFisher 6 ай бұрын

62 meters.

@Vybramo 3 ай бұрын

Hmm little bad hoping consistency.

@NikolayDimitrovFisher 3 ай бұрын

Yep. R-hop is crucially dependent on bucking lips tension and nub softness and even pressure. With Alpha i have good shots trajectory only with 50° or softer nubs.

@stephger1925 24 күн бұрын

Test is useless: 1. It’s Outdoor. 2. because of the Movementpossibility of the BB-Gun.

@NikolayDimitrovFisher 23 күн бұрын

The MTW is on a bench rest. There’s no movement. I prefer to test outside because I play only outdoor.

@stephger1925 23 күн бұрын

I can see the movement of the rifle in ur scope cam. And u dismounted the rifle for changing the Hopupunit. So what are u telling me?

@NikolayDimitrovFisher 20 күн бұрын

@@stephger1925 with 35 mm lens every insignificant move is amplified in scope cam frames. Even the vibrations from shots. This is not a lab test. But for my purpose it's more than enough.

@MinM1337 11 күн бұрын

@@stephger1925 Why the criticism? I rather see testing in normal conditions. I use the Alpha with super MR 70 and black nub without R-hop in the standard MTW barrel. This weekend with 0.30 BB shooting arround 60m with out any issue. Do thinking of upgrading the barrel to a PDI 6.08