They screwed me over completely. I ordered a Silent Yacht and paid 2.1m which is all lost in their bankruptcy. The new company they started says I would need to pay another 4.8m to get a boat that I ordered at 3.2m and that my 2.1m paid does not count.

@@MrMagnussounds awful but your bullshitting.

Link to proof?

@@snorttroll4379 proof of what? I can forward you the emails if you want.

Well if thy don’t come up with a better looking design and focus on one design/model thy are most certainly done for it, there is a reason companies start with one design, and produce larger volume or said design

@@lylefranksaunders2113 Their salon designs are awful looking, the design and placenent of the interior is shocking to the eye!

@@lylefranksaunders2113 Their designs are great, proven by the long waiting list for their ships as more people have placed orders for them than they can build.

The clients are not though. I paid 2.1m for a SY which the new company does not honor. Mr S lent money into the new company which he most likely will extract from future suckers

@@MrMagnus That's rough! So the new company didn't properly go through the books when acquiring SY or something?

This is not the "future of yachting" for probably another 20 years. Diesel/electric hybrid with solar backup is the foreseeable future in yachting unless battery and solar technology jump by about 5×. Check out Greenline Yachts. They're not going bankrupt because their engineers are firmly grounded in reality.

So an investor or bond holder had a prepaid boat on order and did not pay in to kneecap the company to take ocer?

@@snorttroll4379 the Koehlers spent the client deposits freely on expensive offices, nice dinners and even bought themselves a plane to go to their holiday house in Greece with company money.

Well, they went bankrupt. Clients lost huge amounts of money by trusting them like I did. I regret it big time

They went bankrupt after spending client money on other things than building their boats. Customers got screwed. They should be in jail.

What did they spend it on?

Agree! They started with the Solarwave 62 for 1.4mio euro without VAT. But from than on, only bigger and bigger and more expensive models....

Start is 2.8€

@@gwmu7745😮

It's a double whammy. Not only can the "average millionaire" not even afford one, the truly rich that can, are exponentially unlikely to care about burning fuel. Heck they probably made their money in oil.

@@CitizenMio yes exactly my thoughts!

Why would you trust them after their bankruptcy that screwed over buyers like myself?

But they struggle to produce them to the point that they went bankrupt after spending the clients money. They tried building a big one but failed and had to scrap it. I bought one, paid 2.1m but lost it all

@@MrMagnus I see, so they took money and don't deliver.. which is a bad business practices and plan all around. Thanks for the report. There another large Solar Boat maker by the name of Sunreef Eco Yachts that I probably look toward to make my boat purchase than..

Why? They went bankrupt

Honestly, you could probably buy a tiny catamaran and have it converted to solar electric for $500k. But the reason they're going out of business is that people are starting to realize that solar panel AND battery technology aren't far enough along yet to make them a viable standalone option. Even most people rich enough to afford millions for a solar yacht can't afford to wait around for it to charge ...IF the sun is even out to charge it. The panels have to be cleaned constantly, they lose efficiency with each year, and no one wants to be stranded at sea waiting for the sun.

@@BradleyBellwether-oy2qi All these yacht has diesel electric generator allowing the Silent Yacht to charged and run even without the sun

@@dinhscotmight as well buy a new diesel Volvo engine.

@@dinhscot Telling about green yachting, needing Diesel to come along! Their biggest Problem is the enormous weight and the cause is not the batteries! These yoghurt-cups are filled with everything a person who can afford such a solar toy needs to survive in his luxury live! Additionally the area of the solar panells is to small! I saw a video of a young couple testriding the SY60 just around the Baleares and they didn´t really come along on that few miles! IMO without sails or at least a very light and evenso very expensive carbon hull and less luxury to reduce the weight it will not work! But what kind of jet-setter wants less for more cash!

@@BradleyBellwether-oy2qi You are absolutely right!!!

you need a lot of surface for the solar panels. only catamarans offer that large surface.

@@henq Of contraire, I have measured the available surface of three super yachts, and there is more square footage available to hold solar panels, or even better, solar sheets than they have on silent yachts or the vision E. Keep in mind, SunReef yachts has proven that solar does not have to be only on flat roof like surfaces.

but peace & independence aren't cheap you need to pay ;)

@@sasakostic1982 I don’t pay to help. I usually get paid lol or it’s an act of good faith.

There is a solution.. electric generators.. no problem.

SY are for the anti-sail crowd. When you say SY were not the first, they were ahead of Sunreef. SY were 2016, SR were 2022. I'd love to know what pre-2016 large electric-only boat you're thinking of.

@@darthkek1953 Last year they managed to get 1 boat into the water. Then they went bankrupt early this year. A new company was started that screwed over all clients. I would not be surprised if this happens again

@@MrMagnus yeah, they collapsed. But they were first.

Hi, not yet - but our clients cruised way more than 100.000 miles on almost all oceans - in a few weeks even on the Pacific Ocean. It´s even easier to cross the Pacific Ocean - as the name "pacific" indicates, calm, not a lot of wind, but sunny.

1. With Sunreef, I doubt that the solar panels laminated into the hull will ever balance out the additional costs in the lifetime of the catamaran. Sunreef is a luxury symbol. Admittedly impressive when you step aboard, but few people can afford 5-star luxury. Silent is less than half the price. Still a long way from the normal price level, but the inovation accessible to more people for a charter. 2. if you do the math, you get results. a) Purchase price in relation to the possible solar area, as well as the question of the stated engine power? Can the solar harvest store enough energy for these motors? b) Additional weights at the top of the ship and the increase in torque characteristics in moving water until capsizing. c) Ratio of ship weight for monohulls (often steel) or multihulls and thus even heavier engines, thus worsening the balance between possible solar harvesting in batteries, further increase in ship weight. Solar harvesting is 60-90% lower in sidewalls. So more of a marketing gain. Water resistance to be overcome at 6, 12, 18, 24 knots? ... Underwater hulls for monohulls and multihulls are different worlds,... much more. If you don't know the different influencing factors, you can't calculate them. And a little tip. Even a thin tensioned line leads to 60% solar yield loss. Every antenna or radome and and and.... Measuring a ship for a solar harvest from a bird's eye view???. ...is just as precise as the gardener's statement that exactly this one seed grows the fastest when he reseeds the soccer pitch. But to work with and find out new ways is allways positiv. Greetings to all

​@@user-ri7lg9lv7k What boat? Where i can find the BBC Fox or or other the worldrecordnews? 2,5 times around the world in weeks is exelent. Gratulations

My plan was to do that with the SY I ordered and paid for but then they went bankrupt and screwed me over

or just dont go bankrupt and screw over customers

Redundancy is key for sure when far away from shore. I remember talk about a kite system for one of their models? With sail catamarans at least, being able to use the props as dynamos to regen is a hugely powerful combo that blows any solar out of the water. So taking advantage of the wind when present, in addition to a hybrid generator would be even better.

SY all have generators that can be used to fill the batteries, you're not dead in the water if you run out of sun.

@darthkek1953 Yeah, but they can't propel the boat while they charge, like a diesel hybrid can. Also, in a diesel hybrid, if one or the other goes out. You still have a backup to get home. That's pretty important when you're miles out at sea.

@@BradleyBellwether-oy2qi that's literally the opposite of the truth. SY have a management system that lets them charge the batteries from the generator whilst also using the batteries to power the engine. You really need to study these boats more.

@darthkek1953 I know they have a generator. You're not understanding what I'm saying about redundancy. And I've actually studied up on sy a lot and I'm telling you. They're going bankrupt for a reason! You should study up on Greenline diesel hybrid yachts.

Why? They went bankrupt. I lost the money I paid for one

They are even slower and heavier than the specs. You heard they went bankrupt right? I paid 2.1m to get one but that money is now lost

MK spent the clients money and bankrupted the company. He should be in jail and I believe it will happen. He even bought himself a plane with client deposits

@@MrMagnus That´s the problem of so many start-ups and SY is IMO nothing more than that ... the first shine of success on the horizon and they think they are Elon Musk or Onassis for the older ones!!!

@@wolfgangsaller5843 exactly! They spent the client deposits like their own money relying on new deposits

Why? They went bankrupt after they lost many many millions

No they should be in jail after going bankrupt

I agree but SY went bankrupt after spending clients money. I lost my 2.1m I paid for a SY and their new company says it is lost and does not count.

Well. We just dont want to be forced to use more exoensice transportation. Now when aptera x gets 4 wheels and two more seats, people might choose electric voluntarily(no subsidies)