Silicon Graphics computer with Norm Abram 1995

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Norm reviews the Napa Valley project with the architect who is utilizing a state-of-the-art Silicon Graphics computer to create a virtual reality 3D walk-through of the space. From "This Old House" Season 16 Episode 20 "The Napa Valley House Part 2". Originally aired Wed Feb 08, 1995.
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@mirrfan8844 3 жыл бұрын

As an architect this is insane for 1995

@ViralKiller Жыл бұрын

Silicon Graphics was way, way ahead of its time...

@_P0tat07_ 3 жыл бұрын

That’s pretty impressive for 25 years ago! I was initially going to mock it and how bad it looked, but once we were shown inside views, it changed my mind!

@lookoutforchris 3 жыл бұрын

The computer shown is actually from 1992. So this wasn’t right at the cutting edge of the time but I’m sure these systems were still in use in 1995. That’s an Indigo system. An Indigo2 would have been much faster but also more expensive.

@RoastBeefSandwich 3 жыл бұрын

That machine probably cost 20 grand when it was new.

@Wizardofgosz 3 жыл бұрын

The SGI stuff was WAY WAY Way ahead of Macs and PCs. This was broadcast in Feb of 1995, so I have my first dialup WWW account for less than a year at that time, and this was super impressive. My friend John was into computer graphics, and had a Mac 2fx in 1989 so I had seen stuff like this, and he was always talking about the SGI stuff, so this wasn't a huge surprise, but even today those indoor renderings look fine.

@closethedoornow7538 3 жыл бұрын

It all looks very Goldeneye to me

@jonathansoko5368 3 жыл бұрын

@@lookoutforchris I work in a medical facility, we still use sgi systems for several things. If it ain't broke don't fix it type of situation.

@myradioon Жыл бұрын

My father worked for SGI. The 3d graphics computers/cards were very powerful and years ahead of their time, leading to the visual tech world we take for granted today in many different areas. Here is a demo video from 1990 - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h7WgkrKps8qln4k.html

@AlBeebe 2 жыл бұрын

the lighting on this model was waaaaay ahead of its time. in 95 duke nukem was state of the art

@MrWolfSnack 5 ай бұрын

This is high end stuff, not meant for the public. Silicon Graphics were used by the FBI and several movie studios.

@PhilTronics1 3 жыл бұрын

Neat stuff for 1995

@ObiTrev 3 жыл бұрын

*NORM:* It's a wooden table. I know this!

@ThePaulwarner 6 ай бұрын

😂 underrated comment. Hold onto your butt joints !

@GrahamDIY 3 жыл бұрын

For 1995 this is good....although when he did the walk through it really showed you how slow the chips were back then. Even state of the art SG ones. Moore’s law etc

@NuGanjaTron 2 жыл бұрын

The Indigo (1) seen here was not state of the art when this was broadcast, nor was it high performance to begin with. But I agree the renderings look good, though I suspect the lighting is precomputed with Radiosity, which was either dumped to VTR frame for frame (=smooth) or shown interactively as seen on the monitor (=choppy).

@TheDime4life 3 жыл бұрын

Very impressed with how realistic the interior looked on that old computer

@robh7671 Жыл бұрын

Silicon Graphics computers were the best at that time. Used at LIM on many films but they did come with a price tag$$$$$$$$$

@greyman419 Жыл бұрын

The nook looked tight even in the render just like Norm called it.

@Wizardofgosz 3 жыл бұрын

OMG, before reading the description I could tell this was Napa Valley from that little kitchen table nook on the blueprints. I never missed an episode back in the day!

@saturnfire 3 жыл бұрын

I was in college at the time working on a similar Silicon Graphics Machine. I think it looks like their Onyx model...those were right at ~$25-$30k. Our College was selected to help build military simulations on these SGI machines. like previously commented these can be done on a iPhone now :P

@jolangse 3 жыл бұрын

The Onyx was quite a bit larger, and a bit more expensive than the model shown in the video. They are using an IRIS Indigo, and considering the timeframe it is probably an R4000 model with some variant of XS or ELAN graphics.

@sanchitmehta6513 3 жыл бұрын

What's your age now ??🙄

@ojbeez5260 3 жыл бұрын

There is a Granite SGI monitor on eBay at the moment for only £250! These things are rare as anything and real expensive... if only I had the room for it - it's a 30kg monster! :(

@HikikomoriDev Жыл бұрын

Most of those modeled spaces can now be easily visited in VR like in VRChat, uploading worlds and modeling them costs almost nothing now with Blender and free tutorials. Lol times changed.

@karlhungus5554 8 ай бұрын

Wow, that was 28 years ago. Very impressive. It still looks pretty good today, in my opinion. I'm guessing it must have taken quite a lot of time, attention, and Advil to bring those animations to life.

@kodoyama 11 ай бұрын

Ah the Indigo! SGI’s most beautiful workstation. If you look carefully there’s one on the desk next to Samuel L Jackson in the control room scene in Jurassic Park

@mtrivelin 4 ай бұрын

3D artist here, since 1992. I started slowly with Amiga computers and here I am, more than 30 years later, still working in the field with a simple but robust PC that any mortal can buy. And 30 years ago, if a solid PC was something that few could desire, imagine how unattainable these SGIs were, costing tens of thousands of dollars, not counting the value of the necessary software. For these reasons, not many were fortunate enough to have the chance to touch these wonders in their prime. And for some, like me, it was a dream - unattainable - to be achieved. I never had the opportunity to work with one of them, when they were at their peak, unfortunately. But, as fate is ironic, I now have an SGI here on my desk, a gift from friends, donated to me to be a decoration - as beautiful as it is obsolete - and a reminder of pioneering times in the art of 3D.

@MaxAbramson3 3 ай бұрын

Ironic, that Commodore was finally building a 3D workstation that could do this a bit slower right at the time that they went bankrupt in 1994.

@SenileOtaku Жыл бұрын

SGI, my first Unix machine. My first system with a functioning web browser even. And yes, our monitor on the Weby was that big. The other thing I found interesting was the webcam setup. In 1995 there were very few systems with webcam capability, but SGI had already made the webcam with a sliding cover over the lens. Here it's 27 years later, and you're only JUST seeing webcam covers as standard on consumer devices.

@RobTFirefly 10 ай бұрын

I haven't seen the rest of the episode with however they addressed this nook problem, but based on this I'd wonder about leaving off that extended section of countertop closing the nook off from the rest of the kitchen. You can still have the column, but walk more freely in and out of the nook on all sides of it.

@jonathanprime1507 3 жыл бұрын

The lighting is spot on

@shoman24v 3 жыл бұрын

0.5 frames per second. Boy how times have come. Imagine sitting there with a client and they're like, let's walk to the end of the room and down the hall. 10 minutes later... 🤣

@masdargames7133 3 жыл бұрын

Nowadays some people would think it just stuck or froze and would just clicking the mouse until it crash on desktop.

@TheChrisgralnic Жыл бұрын

This was the year I was born , and I am 27. Wild .

@leobrent7926 3 жыл бұрын

Amazing how back then the cost was 30000 dollars and now anyone can do it with an iPad hehe

@nerosmith2578 3 жыл бұрын

You can do photogrammetry of something you have access to. But pre visualization based on blueprints is still made by modellers.

@jiriq8853 3 жыл бұрын

Imagine 25 years from now.. I imagine you will be able to walk in a huge room with some AR glasses displaying some super realistic 3D model to you and be able to open cabinet, move objects etc..

@HikikomoriDev Жыл бұрын

The Quest Pro does this already.

@ogr2 8 ай бұрын

It is incredible how the technology has changed from back in the 90's until now. All these stuff back then was an unimaginable thing to do from a normal computer. Now, we have all that technology on a normal computer. Using programs like Blender we can do all this stuff now when back that time was something nearly impossible to do for normal people. It is funny in the video how slow it is the computer to show the changes and the presentator starts to incomodate a little bit XD.

@smallbluemachine 3 жыл бұрын

Very impressive. Nice illumination. Lacking shadow casting though.

@bagpiper03 3 жыл бұрын

1:20 is the Eagleton Courthouse in downtown St Louis which was built by HOK. That's a trip that they modeled it with that software.

@TOHClips 3 жыл бұрын

Cool! Thanks for that info about the courthouse!

@bratticuss 3 жыл бұрын

Yes and it took them over 10 years to finish too.

@bagpiper03 3 жыл бұрын

@@bratticuss I seem to remember a story about a pipe bursting on an upper floor and it causing catastrophic damage, either before opening or shortly after. Now that is something I'd like to see video of.

@SG-dw8jh 3 жыл бұрын

Where the fuck was I living back then? I thought my PlayStation1 was the peak of technology at the time. 🤦‍♂️

@chikato7106 2 жыл бұрын

It was peak cheap tech. Imagine this Indigo was a $30k desktop and had the shark tech demo in 1989 and a N64 was $300-400 in 1995. They got Project Reality squeezed into an embedded chip! The N64 is basically one of these machines scaled down to the bare minimum.

@dan_perry 10 ай бұрын

Model 2 and 3 by Sega/Real 3D was peak hardware of that era for real time graphics.

@ToyotaTacomaOfficial 2 жыл бұрын

That's actually pretty cool

@pupperpuppydog9901 3 жыл бұрын

i wanna know how many fps a GTX 3090 could get rendering this, lol

@patoren3gou653 2 жыл бұрын

Makes you wonder why they didn't make toy story on game Boy with silicone graphics computers

@ArchiLinkArchitects 3 жыл бұрын

How technology changed in the lats 25 years

@70h4nn35 3 жыл бұрын

Computer generated SYNTHETIC room

@tscoffey1 3 жыл бұрын

Now I want to know if they ended up removing that column.

@malavoy1 2 жыл бұрын

Be easier to move the doorway outwards and get rid of the wall that you see to the left of the support column.

@TheArfdog 3 жыл бұрын

You can gin this up on online web apps nowadays.

@GoatzombieBubba 3 жыл бұрын

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Graphics

@anthonysmith9410 3 жыл бұрын

Great video.....that monitor was enormous ! Norm is a real pro. Best of all.....NO BOB!

@lucky1206 3 жыл бұрын

I wonder how much computing power it's using compared to today's stuff

@oldtwinsna8347 3 жыл бұрын

The system did about 30 mflops back then, which was insanely fast as nothing else came close unless you got into supercomputer territory. However, these specs are laughable today, for even the cheapest $1 off the shelf microcontroller would be far faster. In 2007, the first snapdragon budget chip found in a smartphone, the S1, could do 40 mflops. So this means you had a portable device 13 years ago already as fast as this machine shown here. For point of reference, the newest snapdragon phone, the 865, can do over 1 tflops, that is 1,000,000 mflops. And desktop 3d graphics card are far faster, for example a $599 geforce graphic card can do 59 tflops (59,000,000 mflops) - to show how fast that is, you'd need to have near 2 million of these machines to do the work of a single $599 graphic card today (which is not even a top of the line model).. Pretty insane

@Jeremybro 3 жыл бұрын

@@oldtwinsna8347 what would this machine be equivalent to todays computer powerhouse? Because this must pretty powerful for that time.

@Nothing-qs4gj 3 жыл бұрын

@@Jeremybro nothing really, it would be really weak.

@NuGanjaTron 2 жыл бұрын

@@Jeremybro Nope. The Indigo was already way obsolete in '95. Back then the Onyx was SGI's top of the line.

@ViralKiller Жыл бұрын

@@Jeremybro like a dual RTX 4090

@caseanful 3 жыл бұрын

im here cuz kush aint bush im focused

@chrisgreen717 3 жыл бұрын

For comparison, this is how far we've come. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e82ioKWH1LvbqI0.html

@Vl7248 3 жыл бұрын

Fairly soon it won’t matter what your living situation looks like in real life because we’ll spend 99% of our time living in virtual spaces.

@r0nr197 3 жыл бұрын

...but can it play Doom?

@jdubdoubleu 3 жыл бұрын

If a pregnancy test can, im sure this can

@masdargames7133 3 жыл бұрын

@@jdubdoubleu Ahahaha ahahaha

@speedbird737 3 жыл бұрын

I can do the same on my iPhone lol

@jonathansoko5368 3 жыл бұрын

But can it run doo...... Nvm

@jpowinflation1250 3 жыл бұрын

1fps

@Wobblybob2004 3 жыл бұрын

Just rotate the chairs by 45 degrees and use a pedestal table. It shouldn't take three grown men to work that out. :-)

@ThePaulwarner 6 ай бұрын

Bar table around the corner.. sit and look out the window

@pajeeper420 3 жыл бұрын

BIM 1.0

@wilianferreira4304 3 жыл бұрын

3ds max

@D-K-C 3 жыл бұрын