Silver Chloride Conversion With Lye and Sugar Pt1 • Silver Chloride Conver...
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@ICU2B4UDOАй бұрын
Not bad Chief... $350-400 bucks that didn't get wasted in the bucket...WE'RE rolling now!! 🤣
@ClassicallyNamedАй бұрын
With nearly daily vids.. I've never bought a bottle of acid, do not own a silver cell made from my wife's discarded kitchen equipment, and really don't want to have to worry about nitric eating the wrong set of gloves... But, based on the last year's of watching... I'm pretty sure i can do a mad max style purification to get me through the apocalypse.. Thanks Mr Sreetips
@TheZombieSaintsАй бұрын
Right?! Sreetips is a great teacher and I also firmly believe I could refine silver and gold from watching over the last year too 👍
@adamtheninjasmith2985Ай бұрын
Lol I've been watching for years and I'm 100% positive I could walk into sreetips lab and run some batches. I finish his sentences while I'm watching and I'll even catch him doing things (or not showing it) like forgetting to add sulfuric acid to the gold solution in aqua regia to precipitate any lead that might be present. 😂
@alanpecherer5705Ай бұрын
Don't underestimate the importance of PPE, especially a face shield (not just goggles) and those red fumes are fiendishly toxic. Twice as toxic as cyanide, per the chemical literature. I always get the big eyes when I watch a Sreetips video, but I simply will not have nitric acid around, I just don't a place to do this work safely.
@AshChildOfGodАй бұрын
Don't forget how mathemical chemistry is and how dangerous what Sre tips does truly is. He makes it look easy because he is very knowledgable and great at what he does❤
@gnomespaceАй бұрын
@@alanpecherer5705 and a fume hood for sure!
@rikmono66Ай бұрын
Im hypnotized by these videos. Fascinating!
@SephBaneАй бұрын
It would be interesting if you did a video like the jewelers floor video but with your own melt table and floor sweepings.
@Ferd414Ай бұрын
Sounds like somebody else noticed the assorted bits and pieces that went on the table instead of in the dish - That's what got me thinking pretty much the same thing... Only I was getting a mental image of a "lab safety" type sign reading "ATTENTION! All floor or table sweepings or vacuum cleaner pickup must be placed in the reclamation bucket to be incinerated and added to a future batch"
@MadlintelfАй бұрын
This channel never ceases to amaze me, what I learn watching is amazing, then hitting the comments, it's like a perfect circle. Thanks everyone!
@souldrinkerchaplain7365Ай бұрын
I really enjoyed the silver drying on the heat. Very satisfying. Thanks for the content!
@nonshockАй бұрын
Both the dirty shot and the cleaner shot looks great to my new eyes, I really loved this video being so different from your others, thanks for the wonderful videos they make my days for sure!
@shaneyork300Ай бұрын
I'm glad you made these videos
@jph8266Ай бұрын
Glad you had your typical shot to compare it to. That was awesome. I hate it creates the high level of waste but there’s always give and take. Time or energy
@SpartanONegativeАй бұрын
Good Afternoon Sreetips 🤠 Thank you for your dedication and for sharing your experience with us. God Bless. 🙏
@isaacclark9825Ай бұрын
You should consider adding a copyright notice to your warning. That can be as simple as using the word "Copyright" followed by the year of publication.
@sreetipsАй бұрын
Thank you
@thebarrymanАй бұрын
Wow, the time lapse of the silver drying was incredible!
@14noonerАй бұрын
It would be cool to see you do a video of a deep clean of your shop and refine all the dust you clean up!! Thanks
@larrybarton2351Ай бұрын
Hey Senior, how about some nice big Silver bars!!
@msdmathssousdopamine8630Ай бұрын
Very nice series. Love it.
@adws5696Ай бұрын
Super interesting !!!! So much faster than cementing with copper 😮
@darrellsmith5395Ай бұрын
Really enjoyed it, would love to learn one day.
@StefanShorkoАй бұрын
Great work team! Keep up the good work chief.
@ArielleVikingАй бұрын
Oh my, that silver shot is so bright compared to the other container. 👍🏻❤️
@ZoonCrypticonАй бұрын
@0:30 You could have bubbled carbon dioxide into the solution to form sodium carbonate, which would have a good solubility in hot water, so rinsing it would be quicker. In your last video, perhaps you could have used an electrical pH-meter to reduce the added sodium hydroxide in the first place. Thank you for your great videos!
@sreetipsАй бұрын
Bubble CO2? I’ll try that.
@RealAjayАй бұрын
Waiting for that video now 🤦
@COL3A1Ай бұрын
I have noticed that you throw a little cemented silver and sometimes even gold on the table and it reaches the floor. It would be fun if you cleaned your workshop/lab and purified all the dust to see how much silver/gold comes out.
@thatdopelifestyle2602Ай бұрын
Mr. Tips. Could you please refine the slimes from the silver cell? Yer' easily in my top 3 channels. Thanks. I've learned so much.
@LuzeonАй бұрын
Truly Amazing!
@smokingkypiper1216Ай бұрын
Excellent video, as always. Would the higher purity shot affect the slimes produced in the anode filter basket? Or is that more of a product of the electrolyte?
@sreetipsАй бұрын
There will be far less to no slimes at all with high purity silver.
@dracotazАй бұрын
Hi Sreetips! Great vid again! Question for you, could you use that caustic waste liquid to drop the iron out of your final waste bucket?
@sreetipsАй бұрын
Possibly
@AntonowskyflyАй бұрын
You are welcome. Another 1/2kg brought back to life! Thank you Sir!👍👍🤟
@josephcormier5974Ай бұрын
That's a great yeald sir well done six stars brother
@johnny2shotАй бұрын
Very fascinating, thank you so much for these video series! I can tell that there's so much work involved, let alone filming and editing. Slightly disappointed that you don't try to recover the copper as well, must not be valuable enough for the trouble I guess. Still though, very thorough and impressive work.
@sreetipsАй бұрын
Clean copper for refining is cheap and plentiful.
@DavidDavis-fishingАй бұрын
Goooood afternoon from central Florida! Hope everyone has a great afternoon!
@sreetipsАй бұрын
Goooood afternoon!
@Sanzus2Ай бұрын
Always interesting!
@AshChildOfGodАй бұрын
Enjoyed this we would love to see a beautiful silver bar one day when you don't need the silver to use for the silver cell 😊
@theonewhowas7709Ай бұрын
love your content.. awesome!!!!!!!
@spinnerrАй бұрын
It will be interesting to see the resulting crystal structures from this more pure finer silver shot ...
@timothykitchens9972Ай бұрын
I agree. I wonder how much of a difference it will make. I'm betting that the filter will clog less/slower obviously. And possibly the crystals themselves will grow faster because the silver won't have to be separated from its impurities before it goes into solution? Idk. Just my SWAG.
@RGCbaseaceАй бұрын
Hello cheif I'm trying to process an amount of our silver scraps, and I'm trying to determine the best methode nitric boils or just smelting and cupelling want to try a sample ?? Thanks
@ClassicallyNamedАй бұрын
Also, look into narration/voice over. You do have a unique voice and cadence that could lend itself to certain things with ease.
@brett76544Ай бұрын
I agree his cadence is spectacular. had one movie with James Cromwell doing the narration, and we found some issues, so he popped in one day and redid those sections. Still finding the voices for narration is always hard and the cadence always is the biggest thing.
@sreetipsАй бұрын
Thank you
@davidrowe9168Ай бұрын
Love your vids. Thanks for the hard work. Why not weigh the Silver Chloride to determine the amount of Sodium Hydroxide to add?
@sreetipsАй бұрын
Because it’s important to keep the silver chloride moist.
@orophiliaАй бұрын
@@sreetips AgCl is much more dense than water, so the water content should not matter very much. Anyway, I've enjoyed your work for many years. Thanks.
@AiasmorАй бұрын
Loving it!!
@SpartanONegativeАй бұрын
Back in the 2000s almost all rubber gloves were purple. I remember when black came out and how expensive they were.
@timsmith9645Ай бұрын
Awesome video beautiful silver shot thanks for sharing sreetips
@Only1OrinthalАй бұрын
Could you use something like white vinegar to neutralize the alkalinity? Water works, but would that ruin the silver?
@sreetipsАй бұрын
I don’t know
@SpartanONegativeАй бұрын
Night and Day difference Sreetips 🏴☠️ Excellent Work 🐉
@szaboazАй бұрын
The description of the careful melting method made me think about if it could be possible to be even more economical with the torch gases. If only some of the heat that is being lost to the air could be trapped or reflected back onto the melting area. I'm sure some sort of lid (with a hole in it for the torch) was tried in the industry, but the gases still need to escape somewhere, and maybe that's where most of the heat loss happen. I wonder if an infrared camera (the kind that laptop reviewers like to use to demonstrate heat distribution) would provide some insights into the heat distribution patterns around the melting table. I imagine there's a rising column of hot air above the crucible... or maybe air currents go in every kind of direction due to the pressure of the burning gases...
@sreetipsАй бұрын
Infrared would be neat
@JamesAnderson-nz1roАй бұрын
wow it really does look like wet cement so very cool Sreetips .
@deshazo_henryАй бұрын
Is this some kind of new procedure for you or something of am I just not been on the channel in a while this is really cool
@sreetipsАй бұрын
I’ve done this many times before. Just figured I’d throw it out there again for some of my new viewers who’ve never seen it.
@thegoodlookinorange1986Ай бұрын
Nice recovery sir. Does the reaction need the heat in order for the reaction to react faster? Or can you do an ice bath. Ty Chief as always. Chemistry is much more fun with you. 👍
@sreetipsАй бұрын
I don’t think I have enough ice to keep it cool.
@thegoodlookinorange1986Ай бұрын
@@sreetips Thank you. By the way I wasn’t arguing last week with you about money and its value. I think it’s a shame how the government can just flood the market when the prices get where they don’t want them. No one puts a cap on their salary and bonuses. Always crappin on the little guys. 👍❤️🤙
@sreetipsАй бұрын
No foul
@logananderon9693Ай бұрын
If you do more gold inquarting, would you use this impure shot or some flatware?
@sreetipsАй бұрын
Flatware.
@dougbish5533Ай бұрын
Have you thought about either switching out that big cutting nozzle on your torch for a finer one? That and not turning your gas and O2 up so high would help control blowout. You could also probably just use a brazing torch instead of a cutting torch, although it wouldn't be as fast.
@ExtractingMetalsАй бұрын
I use a different method on my Silver Chloride because I don’t like working with lye. The end result is still the same but it does take a little bit longer.
@GigsVTАй бұрын
Can you use weak acetic acid to neutralize the lye quicker? The sodium acetate would be very soluble.
@sreetipsАй бұрын
Someone suggested bubbling CO2 to convert it to sodium carbonate.
@josephheffle601Ай бұрын
Nice and that almost pure silver shot will be Ulta pure when you run it through the silver cell
@brianevans1851Ай бұрын
Could you use the powder form of the silver in the 6 liter and convert the powder to silver crystals
@sreetipsАй бұрын
No, it clogs the filters.
@antoniobalmorac3761Ай бұрын
Good job
@gerard8496Ай бұрын
have you checked the use of an oxy-propane torch, it should reach the temps you need and it would be cheaper than acetylene
@sreetipsАй бұрын
Yes
@jakesmerth1919Ай бұрын
That is much cleaner looking shot than usual.
@robertclark2959Ай бұрын
If you were to wait a few days to a week after the lye reaction would it stabilize naturally?
@sreetipsАй бұрын
I don’t think so
@Capitaine.AlbatorАй бұрын
What would happen if you just melt the silver powder directly into a graphite mold in the electric furnace ? Always asked myself this question. Thanks 👍🏻✌🏻🇨🇦
@sreetipsАй бұрын
Getting a graphite mold hot enough to melt silver would ruin the graphite mold.
@IlovegoldАй бұрын
I’m so glad there was the side by side comparison. The silver chloride conversion method looks so much nicer. With silver shot like that you could almost use your electrolyte 3 times in the cell?
@sreetipsАй бұрын
Possibly
@marksoler7338Ай бұрын
Is it possible just to put the powder into the basket bypassing the shot process?
@sreetipsАй бұрын
No, clogs the filter
@gfhrtshergheghegewgewgew1730Ай бұрын
the other downside of this silver chloride method is you have to do so much lifting and pouring (pouring in the rinse water and pouring the rinse water out, and lifting rinsewater buckets around) i guess you cpuld do siphons instead, or some may consider that not a downside but a benefit from the physical activity. but my point is the silver cell method is less labor intensive and less liquid waste going around
@alfadoofusАй бұрын
I know you are showing other methods for converting silver , Which do you prefer ?
@sreetipsАй бұрын
I prefer cementing on copper then run it through the silver cell.
@hotrod47944Ай бұрын
Just out of curiosity why don’t you use graphite crucibles instead of the ceramic??? You don’t have to “season” them and they can potentially last longer too…
@sreetipsАй бұрын
I bought a dozen dozen (a gross) of them when I first started refining.
@erichosler4539Ай бұрын
How do you go about retrieving the silver that is adhered to the melt dish?
@sreetipsАй бұрын
One source says to melt the melt dish in hot diluted water sulfuric acid. I must try it one day.
@fxp0Ай бұрын
What would happen if you just put the cement silver powder directly into the silver cell basket instead of melting it and creating shot first? (as it's fairly pure already)
@sreetipsАй бұрын
It clogs the filter, don’t know why, it just does.
@richardpittman5291Ай бұрын
What respirator do you recommend for the acid fumes?
@sreetipsАй бұрын
I’d use a fume hood for acid fumes. I wear a 3M P95 mask for melting the metals.
@richardpittman5291Ай бұрын
Thanks
@87bwadmanАй бұрын
Adding dilute acidic acid very slowly from your nitric delivery system to the lye base rinse should help neutralize the solution and make it easier to rinse = less volume. A pH indicator for 7 would help as well.
@87bwadmanАй бұрын
Acetic*
@ArneDalbakk-ns2mwАй бұрын
Hello Mrs and Mr Sreetips... Always thing to do as a refiner🌺🌺 Nice clip as always Sir🌺 God bless you🙂🌺🌺
@sreetipsАй бұрын
Thanks Arne!
@thebarrymanАй бұрын
Why do the individual granules have different colors? Does it have to do with the amount of oxygen exposure the molten silver gets before it hits the water? I would assume every piece of shot from the same molten metal would come out with the same color.
@sreetipsАй бұрын
It only takes a trace of copper to turn silver real ugly.
@thebarrymanАй бұрын
@@sreetips I'm not surprised that the copper contamination created some color but I figured it would be evenly spread through all the pieces of shot
@stephencaine1548Ай бұрын
Random question: is it possible to make an electrolytic gold cell?
@sreetipsАй бұрын
Yes
@thepowerfox2867Ай бұрын
Can you just let a fan blow over the waste liquid bucket to evaporate the liquid down to a powder which is easier to get rid off?
@sreetipsАй бұрын
Yes, evaporation would help
@taxesdeathandtrouble.1886Ай бұрын
If you’ve got a friend with an outhouse?
@jamescball55Ай бұрын
I think your electrolyte will last longer with this more pure batch of silver shot. Might be worth it to get your regular silver shot to this purity???
@sreetipsАй бұрын
Yes, I think it would.
@ulrichenevoldsen8371Ай бұрын
He put the lime in the coconut 😂
@debcamp2359Ай бұрын
❤ the video.
@gustavoabate6242Ай бұрын
I wanna try this before i die, i'm writing down how many buckets i need, you could say i'm making a bucket list 😂
@sreetipsАй бұрын
Good one! My garage looks like a bucket farm
@zawadaflyАй бұрын
You should consider upgrading and buying a kiln. The melting phase seems to be the lowest capacity part of your refining process. Current process is also not energy efficient and cost of refining could be reduced with a kiln.
@sreetipsАй бұрын
It’s my silver-refining weak link.
@zawadaflyАй бұрын
@@sreetips I very much enjoy your videos though! Thanks for posting updates. Can’t wait for more waste processing videos.
@looweeg4229Ай бұрын
First thing this made me realise. It doesnt take a lot of copper to affect drasticly the colornof the silver shots. Second this, you should defenetly run the clean silver in the silver cell before the dirty silver.
@sreetipsАй бұрын
Go through like veggies through a goose
@looweeg4229Ай бұрын
@@sreetips Are you saying it's going to melt like butter in a pan?
@sreetipsАй бұрын
Yes
@scottindestin4292Ай бұрын
The King of Conversion.....
@mycikroto83Ай бұрын
what happen if when you rinse it, it doesnt gets into lower ph? and also, could you boil it over and over to get the PH down?
@sreetipsАй бұрын
Keeping rinsing and the pH will come down.
@mycikroto83Ай бұрын
@@sreetips i noticed. But if we dont do it and straight smelt it? What will happen?
@sreetipsАй бұрын
The lye will begin to dissolve the silica melt dish.
@navrangstudio8273Ай бұрын
Dear sir for gold precipitation how much pH leval on Aqua regia
@sreetipsАй бұрын
The pH level doesn’t matter. Hydrochloric acid level doesn’t matter. The only thing that matters is the level of excess nitric. Excess nitric will cause problems when trying to precipitate the gold.
@navrangstudio8273Ай бұрын
thank yo sir@@sreetips
@D_A86Ай бұрын
Would this silver produce more silver in the silver cell than impure silver? 🤔
@sreetipsАй бұрын
No. For every 100g of this silver I’d harvest 99g of pure silver crystal.
@erichosler4539Ай бұрын
I pretty sure you'd get silver and gold off the sweeps from your melt table.
@scotthultin7769Ай бұрын
50 👍's up sreetips thank you for sharing 🤗
@whats-ontv-se6wwАй бұрын
i have around 2kg of silver that i need to refine would u do it for me street tip lz
@sreetipsАй бұрын
I only work on my own material. This is my hobby
@clintonmoore5335Ай бұрын
Since you're doing this in a fume hood, couldn't you just heat the Silver Chloride to liberate the Chlorine leaving just pure Silver behind without the need for all of the washings?
@Seeing_RedАй бұрын
The silver chloride has to be chemically converted to silver oxide, then to silver metal. These are reduction and decomposition reactions. I understand where you are deriving your question, but it is much different than having separate silver metal and chlorine gas in a hypothetical mixture, then simply separating the two by exposing to heat.
@sreetipsАй бұрын
No, but it can be done in a furnace with lots of soda ash (sodium carbonate), so I’ve been told. But I’ve never tried it.
@davidgibson6909Ай бұрын
Why can't you evaporate the liquid waste and then dispose of the leftover solids accordingly etc?
@sreetipsАй бұрын
I guess you could, but I’ve never tried it.
@davidgibson6909Ай бұрын
Seems like there could possibly be some viable recoverable solids possibly a well.
@AtiTuran-zd2frАй бұрын
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@wszechmocnieuzdolnionyАй бұрын
Witam witam i pozdrawiam serdecznie z Polski 🇵🇱👍 👍👍 Good job 👊
@sreetipsАй бұрын
Hello!
@hiddentruth1982Ай бұрын
Now I see why you do it the way you do. Silver chloride is a pain to deal with.
@sreetipsАй бұрын
It’s faster, but lots of waste to deal with.
@stooartbabayАй бұрын
Just wondering why you created silver shot? Could you not just put spoonfuls of cement silver into the basket of the silver cell?
@sreetipsАй бұрын
No, clogs the filter
@wedgetailleatherАй бұрын
12:37 well, as a leather worker once told me, if you want to make money you need to find a way to make things from your scraps! I’ll take half a kilo of waste bucket silver any day! Haha
@sreetipsАй бұрын
Me too!
@ernestedwards4073Ай бұрын
500+grams! 🎉
@adamtheninjasmith2985Ай бұрын
It still amazes me that the mapp gas torch just doesn't quite melt that much silver. The flame is about twice as hot as the melting point for silver. I understand the science of it but it still seems unintuitive to me.
@Ellis157Ай бұрын
you can see the gold or coper in the new shot.
@sreetipsАй бұрын
Probably a little copper
@wesleymccravy901Ай бұрын
Just to let anyone know who does not know… when you empty a pack of your ph test strips aka litmus paper… you have another row worth at the bottom where it is stapled into the pack. #labhack
@sreetipsАй бұрын
Excellent! Thank you
@mgrillo2863Ай бұрын
i know youve got lots of silver sitting around, have you ever thought about casting some into something unique that you find interesting just for fun, or to sell at a premium since then it would be "art" and not bulk
@sreetipsАй бұрын
I’m still considering a solid silver chess set. But I’m running out of time.
@mgrillo2863Ай бұрын
@@sreetips that would be amazing to watch
@Dean_FАй бұрын
@@sreetipstoo bad we couldn't get @bigstackd to come in you and he would make a great team up and you'd have your silver chess set in a day or 2 😊 haha one can dream!
@thespicemelange.1Ай бұрын
$395 is not a bad payday. 👍🏻
@johnnyblueeyes8037Ай бұрын
You couldve added a small amount of hcl to lower the ph then you wouldve had less waste solution to deal witj
@sreetipsАй бұрын
I’m not sure how that would work, but it sounds logical
@tbreitkopfАй бұрын
Why do you have to melt this into shot. Can't you just use it in the silver cell as is?
@sreetipsАй бұрын
No, it clogs the filter
@Ellis157Ай бұрын
did you count how many times you used the pipit to pull liquid out of the silver lol
@sreetipsАй бұрын
Was it sixty time?
@Ellis157Ай бұрын
@@sreetips i lost count lol
@sreetipsАй бұрын
Counted twice, it was fifty
@Ellis157Ай бұрын
@@sreetips 150 milliliters nice that took a minute lol
@Ellis157Ай бұрын
@@sreetips about ten time i would of hooked up the vacuum pump lol
@thomaskenny4039Ай бұрын
U should get a turkey baster for taking more out of the dish😊