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Sim Racing Setup Guide 07 - Ride Height & Rake

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Chris Haye

Chris Haye

Күн бұрын

Welcome to part 7 of my sim racing setup guide. This video is all about ride height and how it impacts and is impacted by various other suspension and aerodynamic adjustments on the car. This series of videos is intended to give beginners an overview of how to set up a car in any of the modern racing sims.
Throughout all 12 videos, I have been describing in detail the various aspects of car setup and how to bring all of them together to build a car setup.
The first 10 videos explain the ins and outs of each setup area, trying to explain the how and the why. Then, video 11 starts to bring everything together and talk through the process of building a setup. Finally, I’ve included video 12 as a case study of an Assetto Corsa setup that I created for the Audi R8 GT3.
If you want to skip to any specific sections of the Sim Racing Setup Guide you can do so using the following links:
1. Introduction - • Sim Racing Setup Guide...
2. Tyres - Pressure and Temperature - • Sim Racing Setup Guide...
3. Suspension I - Toe, Camber & Castor - • Sim Racing Setup Guide...
4. Suspension II - Anti Roll - • Sim Racing Setup Guide...
5. Suspension III - Springs - • Sim Racing Setup Guide...
6. Suspension IV - Dampers - • Sim Racing Setup Guide...
7. Ride Height - • Sim Racing Setup Guide...
8. Brake Balance - • Sim Racing Setup Guide...
9. Gear Ratios & Differential - • Sim Racing Setup Guide...
10. Aerodynamics - • Sim Racing Setup Guide...
11. Diagnosing a setup problem - • Sim Racing Setup Guide...
12. Case Study - Audi R8 Case Study - • Sim Racing Setup Guide...
Playlist Link: • Sim Racing Setup Guide
Hopefully this guide will be useful for those looking to improve their understanding of setups in iRacing, Assetto Corsa, Rfactor, Project Cars, RaceRoom etc. If you have anything to add, please leave a comment, and if it’s helpful to others, then I’ll pin I to the top of the page.
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@halloweennr2
@halloweennr2 5 жыл бұрын
I am allready 2 seconds faster by your guide! Many thanks Chris. You'r the best!!
@finbeats
@finbeats Жыл бұрын
6:32 wholesome, good video
@MrTimdtoolman1
@MrTimdtoolman1 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see your sub count rising. No surprise to me my friend as your content is in a league of it's own. Keep up the great work.
@ChrisHaye
@ChrisHaye 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tim, It's going really well at the moment. At the end of Summer, I'd set myself a target of 5K by Christmas, which is starting to look a bit conservative now. It's a nice problem to have!
@MrTimdtoolman1
@MrTimdtoolman1 5 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisHaye Brother, that was an ambitious goal but for someone with your editing and speaking voice/skills you will surpass that goal with no problem at all. Congratulations on your past success and I wish you all the luck in the world (not that you need luck) but from what I have seen over the years of watching YT vids, for a person with your skill set your sub count will go "through the roof" with time.
@Rex.ux.
@Rex.ux. 5 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for your hard work Chris! Sim racers need these clean and detailed presentation!
@kleiniification
@kleiniification 5 жыл бұрын
Chris! I do comments very rarely (guessing 15-20 per year max). But I have to say: I love your work! Fantastic and outstanding! Not only a great effort, but a great help also! I´m watching most of your videos anyway, but these setup guide videos actually brought me back to work on my setups, an aspect of simming I didn´t focus on for a long time. I did in the days from Geoff Grammond´s Grand Prix 1-4 and GTR 1+2 and rfactor1 also. But then...just driving with slightly cusomised default setups. But these guides made me try again. For example: Project Cars2, Lambo Huracan Super Trofeo at Watkins Glen....2,2 Seconds. So Thank You for inspiring me again. Cheers from Stuttgart Andy
@anthonyedward573
@anthonyedward573 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video Chris and I'm learning a lot about set-ups but wondering if I'll ever get time to race again with the amount of effort needed to find that perfect set-up.
@alphalobster8021
@alphalobster8021 5 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Chris. FWIW most of my best best GT3 Spa laptimes in Assetto Corsa are with negative rake setups as Assetto only redistributes CofG with ride height with zero aerodynamic effect.
@JohnnySnappleseed
@JohnnySnappleseed 5 жыл бұрын
You're the best of men, Chris.
@ChrisHaye
@ChrisHaye 5 жыл бұрын
You're too kind dude!
@pspuser1991
@pspuser1991 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@Hamisxa
@Hamisxa 5 жыл бұрын
New here. Exactly what I've been after mate. I'm super quick but in lobbies with custom setups I'm 2sec a lap down or more. This will definitely help. I was ridiculous for always putting the same ride height front and rear!!!!
@ChrisHaye
@ChrisHaye 5 жыл бұрын
Hey man, glad you're finding the videos useful dude. :)
@hectorcsg4624
@hectorcsg4624 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris and still writing down notes here.(and thanks for all your Replays)
@ChrisHaye
@ChrisHaye 5 жыл бұрын
No problem Hector - glad you're finding the guides useful. Have a good weekend :)
@jaysysumakaRatMaster3
@jaysysumakaRatMaster3 5 жыл бұрын
I’ll just give a 👍🏼 as I’m very much enjoying the series 😉
@ChrisHaye
@ChrisHaye 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jay - appreciate the comments dude. Have a good weekend!
@badme9684
@badme9684 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Crabby happy again have a nice day. Thumbs up
@Kungfujoe1110
@Kungfujoe1110 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these videos Chris, they've been very helpful. Quick question - I've heard this before, but there is a natural, obvious concern about bottoming out. I've heard that, generally speaking, you go as low as you can until you "feel" the car bottom out. In lieu of a real car and a compressed vertebra, how do I feel that in a sim? Like, I've played AC, rF2, and iRacing, and I've never really been certain what I'm looking for. Should I just fire up AC, take a car, drop the ride height ridiculously low, and feel what it feels like? I guess that would work. Could do the same in iRacing in testing too...hmm...Maybe I just answered my own question
@pgale
@pgale 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome thx love this series big help
@jackson_m4
@jackson_m4 9 ай бұрын
What about rake's impact on corner balance and neutral weight distribution of the car?
@eSKAone-
@eSKAone- 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks♥️
@mazvydux
@mazvydux 5 жыл бұрын
I see you drive the audi :) maybe you have a setup for road atlanta track ?
@emanuelec.5921
@emanuelec.5921 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. where can I find the mod to view the downforce data? Thank you
@kevinacres1699
@kevinacres1699 4 жыл бұрын
I really cannot tell outside of some telemetry data that my car is bottoming out while driving or don't know the ques that it's bottoming out.
@jj72rg
@jj72rg 5 жыл бұрын
I am flagging this videos for subliminal absolute vodka advertising :p
@ChrisHaye
@ChrisHaye 5 жыл бұрын
Hah!
@CY078
@CY078 3 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I am wrong .... is it best to change the ride height first and then make all the other changes around this ?? Isn’t the ideal COG pivotal to car setup ..
@Steve-jo3cl
@Steve-jo3cl 5 жыл бұрын
HI Chris, just wondering when you get into a new car do you use a setup a sheet as you work through setting it up to get a good quali car then a good race car ?
@ChrisHaye
@ChrisHaye 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve - No, that's a good point, but it's something I've been meaning to produce for a while though. At the moment I just refer to notes in Evernote, but a proper 'biro & clipboard' approach would make a lot more sense. If nothing else it stop the risky behaviour that is using Alt+Tab in a racing sim! ha
@Steve-jo3cl
@Steve-jo3cl 5 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisHaye oh does that mean I just gave you a helpful idea ? And im not even a sim racer yet, Im just in the process of upgrading from a PS4 player that used a logic G29 to Ive ordered a P1 cockpit from simlabs, Simworx ( a Australian based Company ) Pro Series GT V3 Pedal set and a Sequential Shifter​, and have also ordered the small MiGe motor OSW from SimRacingBay .... Any good tips on where to get a Decent Rim ? My thoughts on having a setup sheet with a "clipboard & biro " was also to give myself a more immersive experience because as Sim Racers we are the driver and also the engineer, and i thought that after going through a prcatice session and making changes Im able to sit down afterwards and go through the data of the session and compare it to the notes of a setup sheet and then make more incremental changes ? Your thoughts ?
@SergejGrabun
@SergejGrabun 5 жыл бұрын
Setup sheet is good idea :)
@lucianomicale1099
@lucianomicale1099 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry chris, where can i find explanations on the telemetry data?!?
@viperion_nz
@viperion_nz 5 жыл бұрын
In a downforce car if you're too low you may stall the underbody aero - OK cool, but how do I know this is happening?
@Kuronekoninja
@Kuronekoninja 5 жыл бұрын
You suddenly lose lots of grip in high speed corners .
@kleiniification
@kleiniification 5 жыл бұрын
I think Ayrton's 1994 Imola crash is the best example there is...
@ChrisHaye
@ChrisHaye 5 жыл бұрын
Hey dude - yeah, as the other guys have said, it's usually pretty obvious. You may lose the front, or the rear, depending on the circumstances and the rest of the balance of the car, but generally it'll happen at a point where the car is very highly loaded, so say T3 at Barcelona.
@lingSpeed
@lingSpeed 5 жыл бұрын
+Viperion_NZ Every car is different here (!) but stalling can occur both when too low and too high. When too high it will loose a ton of grip and won't let go - think top of eau-rouge where front is stalling in almost any GT car with any setup - you get endless understeer. When too low the car suddenly becomes twitchy, as the closer you are to the stall limit the better aerodynamics work. For front splitter it looks like this: you enter the corner, car wants to oversteer and then suddenly understeers, then oversteers again and so on. And in reverse for diffuser stall on the rear of the car. This often happens in corners with some compression or camber, like bottom of eau-rouge, and also can happen under straight braking where tyres lock in initial braking phase - where front bounces off thanks to the stall reducing front grip for an instant long enough for a wheel lock. What's also important is that when you are close to stalling on one side of the car, a small change on the other side may ruin your day. For example, you run GT car with nose close to the ground, then you stiffen rear springs, and suddenly car is understeery in high speed corners, that's front splitter stall happening because jacking the rear up brought the front down.
@akioasakura3624
@akioasakura3624 11 ай бұрын
Sir this is a very bad video. Lots of talk about essentially nothing. Conclusion: “cars are tuned like this”. No real examples, and the lame excuses for explanations only cover part of the issue at hand. This whole video series is about as helpful as copying some random tune from a website. Sorry if I’m misunderstanding the purpose of the series’s sir, but I’m finding it insanely lacking. Not good for beginners since there’s nothing to actually think about or learn, and also not good for advanced players because it’s too broad and unspecific. There is a fantastic book on tuning called TUNE TO WIN by Carrol Shelby. The version I read was quite outdated since it talked about technology from the late 70s. I don’t mean to offend, hopefully you can re-do this whole series. This is a common trend I’m seeing in these videos. Take care
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