Simon Jordan and Martin Keown Clash Over Mike Dean's Admission 🔥

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10 ай бұрын

Former referee Mike Dean did not intervene on an important VAR call because he did not want to burden 'a mate', he has revealed. talkSPORT's Jim White, Simon Jordan and Martin Keown discuss!
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@craigbuchan 9 ай бұрын

Trying to help out your "mates" shouldnt come into it. Martin is 100% right

@Do27gg 9 ай бұрын

He was wrong about Mike dean admitting what happened. Not a fan of dean but he willingly stepped down and admitted his mistake, nothing wrong with that

@user-zm9xf7mo4p 9 ай бұрын

@@Do27gg an apology doesn't change the impact these sort of decisions have and already have had on games though. Admitting to it means nothing

@jackdelacey2505 9 ай бұрын

@@user-zm9xf7mo4pif you were in his shoes as a ref and one of your colleagues who happens to be a mate made a mistake would you not do the same thing?

@colinedelman6392 9 ай бұрын

@@jackdelacey2505 no. Send him to the monitor.

@Dalwhat 9 ай бұрын

Ironic listening to Simon Jordan sticking up for Dean, or rather protecting the integrity of his own podcast. At the end of the day it is blatant unprofessional, incompetant officiating. The other thing is that it is impossible to believe this isn't the tip of an enormous iceberg. From inconsistant decisions to questionable lines drawn for offsides decisions. It's pointless continuing with VAR if it is so easy to corrupt the system.

@geoffreyfoster6355 9 ай бұрын

The fact that he admitted it so nonchalantly means it's commonplace within the profession. If it weren't he would have been far more guarded.

@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings 9 ай бұрын

Howard Webb named Chief Ref When City set out to equal Utd 3peat Casemiro escaped leg breaker on Akanji Not allowed to call it Corruption?🤔

@kth6736 9 ай бұрын

Its an open secret. Just check any Chelsea game refereed bt taylor.

@spinofthewheel5345 9 ай бұрын

Exactly we all see it every weekend there's big mistakes its done on purpose so these media outlets have something to talk about then talk about change but carry on doing the same thing

@martinsalbert2985 9 ай бұрын

Exactly mate!

@Lioness_UTV 9 ай бұрын

You have to listen to the interview, it wasn't nonchalantly said. There is a lot of context here and no I would not say its widespread. However, it needs to be said that some refs may dread this task and if they do they may miss something. There needs to be more transparency, more training perhaps as no one goes into that to cheat.

@matthewbarber13 9 ай бұрын

Martins right on this one. Simon cannot trot out that players try to con the ref, of course they do, their ultimate aim to make sure that their team gets the win. When Martin says the ref has to be 100% impartial he’s absolutely spot on. There’s no argument that can make what Mike Dean said any better than the disgrace that it was. To most fans of many clubs who thought that there was something off with Dean - that admission will only further that belief. I always thought the game was all about him, his arrogance and always wanting to be the centre of attention. The best compliment you can pay to a ref is to not speak about them at all. This has never been the case with Mike Dean.

@royhuson 9 ай бұрын

Best referee the prem has ever had !

@mcgot2good 9 ай бұрын

@@royhuson You must be trolling.

@chillygilly939 9 ай бұрын

They even had the cheek to double down and give tuchel a touch line ban because he lost it which is understandable considering the incompetence he experienced from these refs.

@anguswheaton20 9 ай бұрын

No wonder the refereeing has been so messy for decades. You wonder what else they deliberately have left undisclosed. There would be enough to fill a book. These guys cant make the same calls in a game, between two games the same match day, and from week to week to month to month to season to season.

@matthewobrien5348 9 ай бұрын

Mike Dean openly admitting what most people thought went on……blatant cheating in a game to “spare his mate” who had a tough game!!! Absolute disgrace.

@joemac9249 9 ай бұрын

Absolutely. They don't use the screen or over rule each other. No burdening their buddies

@leroysimon5692 9 ай бұрын

👍🏾

@Adelocity 9 ай бұрын

And the media just dismissed those talks as crazy worst refs in world football in the greatest league is a damn shame

@bykez4rhil 9 ай бұрын

Now we can question the decisions at Arsenal vs Brentford last season ... So much for protection

@stretfordender11 9 ай бұрын

It shows when people say these conspiracy theories of they make decisions based on other factors like helping a mate or certain teams or maybe the press focus in the last week. It shows they base decisions on other things so conspiracy theories could be right on referees. All of the theories.

@davidmildon3278 9 ай бұрын

Dont often agree with Martin but hes absolutely right. Simon is just feeling bad and guilty because its his podcast and he doesn't want Mike to take too much flak

@robhughes6446 9 ай бұрын

❤

@hello150 9 ай бұрын

I think it's the first time I've ever agreed with Martin too!

@aidanfblydon 9 ай бұрын

I totally agree. Well done Martin.

@Do27gg 9 ай бұрын

So you don’t want officials admitting their mistake and stepping down when they don’t feel up to it?

@xjkdx 9 ай бұрын

Simon will always protect authority and it shows transparently here.

@Bad_Gnasher 9 ай бұрын

Simon has had a shocker here. Allowed his friendship with Dean to get in the way of his opinion.

@robdolman2256 9 ай бұрын

Protecting his podcast and its guests 😅

@anguswheaton20 9 ай бұрын

Yep. As Dean did with his referee mate. Actually the best friends are those who call you out when you have erred. It might hurt at the time but you know that they are right.

@rgnngaleh7458 9 ай бұрын

I think he doesnt want to scare other officials from comng to his show

@fabzinho4830 9 ай бұрын

1000% agree with Martin. There’s no way Simon can defend Mike Dean, we can seriously ask the question how many times has this happened?

@leroysimon5692 9 ай бұрын

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@docholiday-lm4vf 9 ай бұрын

He always defends refs. Outs me right off him

@thrillofthesale 9 ай бұрын

Simon is now defending his mate Mike Dean lmao

@damiennielsen 9 ай бұрын

And Simon wasnt defending Mike Dean at all. He said several times he doesn't condone what Mike Dean has done. What Simon is getting at is that Mike Dean clearly wasnt comfortable in being a VAR ref and therefore should never have been given that task. So now the question becomes if all refs are "forced" to also be a VAR ref (where someone like Dean would be prone to doing more errors) or if its ok to just be a ref out on the field if thats what you want. I dont think anyone is saying that what Mike Dean did is OK. Its just lucky that Mike Dean has come out and being this honest cause now we all now there is a massive flaw that needs fixing when selecting referees for VAR duties

@LudiCrust. 9 ай бұрын

21-22 City title was decided on scandalous refereeing decisions

@bookillful 9 ай бұрын

Mike Dean has admitted what we all thought. The VAR officials primary concern is protecting their colleague on the field.

@joemac9249 9 ай бұрын

Definitely don't question each other So VAR doesn't question the Ref. Basically VAR doesn't help the ref as the decision is wrong. It is fairly incredible as that is VAR job. Its amazing they can drive home after a game with any dignity doing that.

@DodgyTodger 9 ай бұрын

Time to replace them with AI. The AI might do something about the divers too 🙏

@joemac9249 9 ай бұрын

@@DodgyTodger I gave you an upvote as honesty would be a nice start. If VAR is prejudiced its basically worse than a ref at the game. I mean they won't even use the monitor at the ground. Nobody questioned that? How stupid are the clubs

@davidmildon3278 9 ай бұрын

Mike Dean disgraceful admission. Exactly the kind of thing we feared as fans. Sky will sack him, Dean has burnt his post reffing career before it even started

@MrRondonmon 9 ай бұрын

Well, he's right, the atmosphere was very charged and 99 times out of a 100 the corner will not result in a goal. We all make mistakes, I assume he felt why bother, wont score anyway, but he's 100 percent wrong in the end, of course but I see the point, ehh if we called every foul in the box on a corer we would be using VAR all day, which is true, I personally think VAR is BS, go back to the refs making the call and JUDGE THEM, if they are bad sit them a few games. VAR OFFSIDES IS Horsehockey.

@JoksterMcDougan 9 ай бұрын

@@MrRondonmonthere’s mistakes (like missing a tackle or a hair pull) and there is a dereliction of duty. He decided not to bring his mate to the camera. That’s an active decision to NOT follow the laws he is supposedly upholding.

@SueMyChin 9 ай бұрын

What do you want him to do? He's admitted the mistake and left the position as a result.. Isn't this the sort of behavior you want of someone who has made mistakes? Accountability and honesty? Sky should commend him if anything. We knew he made teh mistake, whatever the reason for it is he can't change anything

@JoksterMcDougan 9 ай бұрын

@@SueMyChin he didn’t leave the position as a result. He knew he would be pulled out and asked to be removed because he didn’t want to do it. If he felt like he was too scared to make calls as simple as the one he ignored (or even worse, not upstanding enough to tell his mate about it) then he should have made that clear beforehand and not done the VAR role at all! As I said previously, this statement doesn’t help anyone left in the game, and builds on the level of distrust in officials rather than clears it up. The correct thing to do would have been to admit it when he was in the game. But that would have worked against him. This way, he is both safe from any punishment, and also still getting the fame he craves.

@khayanyathi7114 9 ай бұрын

@@MrRondonmonhe felt “why bother? Won’t score anyway” 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@JinNOSify 9 ай бұрын

Martin loses many of his clashes with Simon, but he definitely wins this one, in my eyes

@willmoseling3359 9 ай бұрын

Simon's got a conflict of interests here, because it's his podcast and he needs to protect its reputation, as well as the guests that go on it. Martin is 100% spot on. This is a cataclysmic admission by Mike Dean, and is borderline match fixing. English football cannot let this get swept under the rug. If this is what referees are happy to admit to, what else is happening that they DON'T admit to? This needs a thorough investigation, and a fundamental change in referee transparency going forward, because how can we ever trust the integrity of our referees going forward, when we hear and see so little of them behind the scenes and on matchdays?

@docholiday-lm4vf 9 ай бұрын

Its not only cause its his podcast. For two years simon has defended var and refs. Each week he defends terrible decisions! Its put me right off him. He will slam players and managers saying do your job better take responsibility yet defend ma refs

@scorpionsrock1511 9 ай бұрын

Simon is a disgrace himself. That’s why he defends disgraceful decisions by the refs. I have no time to listen to him but I’m glad i listened this debate.

@anguswheaton20 9 ай бұрын

Well said. Why do we keep watching such a tarnished product? We know its happening and it needs to end.

@edizldn1 9 ай бұрын

Terrified to make decision? Wait, aren’t you a ref? 😂😂😂

@t2d482 9 ай бұрын

That is an outrageous statement to make. I literally can't believe he has outright said he didn't make a call to protect his mate...incredible these are the people that are literally there to be impartial.

@jascu4251 9 ай бұрын

He said he didn't see it. But then if he didn't see it how is he making a decision not to make the call. This contradiction makes no sense!

@ThatGuy-tx4vm 9 ай бұрын

@@jascu4251because it is a lie. He didn't do it to protect his mate. These "mistakes" are made because they are corrupt. Human scum.

@jacknapier6668 9 ай бұрын

What he said to Simon was a lie. It was this statement that protected his mate. Not what he said in the statement. Real ones will clock it. Loyalty

@leroysimon5692 9 ай бұрын

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@Taporeee 9 ай бұрын

Simon's farcical defence of Dean is aptly demonstrating Mike Dean's point.

@efraimrojas1343 9 ай бұрын

Martin was completely on point on this one. Dean's admission completely impacts the integrity of the game and the supposed purpose of VAR which is to get the calls correct or in this case identify the missed what should have been a red card foul on Cucurella. Throw in the other impacts Spurs scoring on the next kick which changed the outcome of the game the 2 red cards after the game for Tuchel and Conte , Tuchel being fined for stating the obvious about the play and the start of the downward spiral on Chelsea's season just because Mike Dean wanted to spare Anthony Taylor getting embarrassed, and it retrospect it did nothing to spare any embarrassment because everyone could see what a horrendous non call it was

@scorpionsrock1511 9 ай бұрын

They’re only admitting what we’ve already known for years. Game is corrupt! No integrity!

@lazaron1 9 ай бұрын

It is scandalous and needs to be adressed officially - It is an admission that the refs overlook the rules - it is insane!

@ThatGuy-tx4vm 9 ай бұрын

there are two possibilities... Either dean is so stupid that he doesn't understand what he's saying or he is lying in order to make people believe this is just a mistake out of friendship instead of the truth, which is corruption.

@pleasantville4529 9 ай бұрын

@@ThatGuy-tx4vm There is also the possibility that this sort of thing goes on routinely, and he is so used to it happening that it's not considered out of the ordinary. We need a full enquiry now, and criminal proceedings should be brought. If it happened once, it happens every game. This just goes to prove that Taylor has been protected, even though some of his decisions have been atrocious.

@christoconnor 9 ай бұрын

Agreed

@leroysimon5692 9 ай бұрын

👍🏾

@DodgyTodger 9 ай бұрын

Fox and chicken coop comes to mind

@tevildo45 9 ай бұрын

Martin absolutely Mudded Jordan here. Get a grip Simon. You’ve been all over the shop

@CelebiFTW 9 ай бұрын

The thing is I remember when Danny Murphy suggested this quite a while back, how var would have slight bias in not wanting to stich their mates up basically, and Simon laughed it off 🤔

@harryale 9 ай бұрын

I used to wonder about some of Mike Dean's on-field questionable decisions. Who's to say he wasn't helping friends who support certain teams 🤔

@in8_ras 9 ай бұрын

This is mad, a different result in that game could have changed the course of many events. How did Mike Dean think that it was okay even saying this.

@Do27gg 9 ай бұрын

What’s wrong with admitting his mistake?

@cheesefactor1761 9 ай бұрын

@@Do27gg he admitted to not following the law, because he didnt want to burden his "mate"

@regopark 9 ай бұрын

@@Do27gg mistake? it was brazen corruption. what part of that don't you understand.

@Do27gg 9 ай бұрын

@@regopark idk why you guys think I’m defending his decision, it’s disgraceful, but I’d rather this information gets out so we know what goes on behind VAR decisions

@phildemetriou440 9 ай бұрын

@@Do27gglt's not a mistake, it's cheating. Mike Dean trying to keep himself 'relevant' has shot himself in the foot.......again lol.

@ibrahimoscarjalloh8807 9 ай бұрын

The crazy part is, Tuchel got fined for going on the officials

@wheatgrinder83 9 ай бұрын

It’s mad, right? And if the managers refuse to talk to the media, they get fined for that too. 😅

@philcopestake815 9 ай бұрын

I’d absolutely want the money back

@forearthbelow 9 ай бұрын

Didn't he get fined for his disgraceful behaviour towards Conte post match???

@stanleyigboanugo1245 9 ай бұрын

😂

@Karl_Grant246 9 ай бұрын

@forearthbelow Which is all because of the Ref. It is a ripple effect that wouldn't have happened

@akamiguelsanchez9985 9 ай бұрын

Simon Jordan basically said, ‘please listen to all of my podcast.”

@eltubster14 9 ай бұрын

I hope this is the last we EVER hear of or from Mike Dean. Absolute weapon of a bloke.

@KayLondon 9 ай бұрын

Mike Dean has put the refereeing body into further disrepute. What he has said is basically giving credence to what fans have been saying for years. He has opened that door for further scrutiny. For the PGMOL to find itself in such a pickle so early in the season says a lot. Lots of work to be done to bring back confidence in the game.

@maverick4123 9 ай бұрын

This is the same PGMOL that intends to book players for dissent? Where's the fairness. The same PGMOL saying they want to protect referees? What a shame!

@KayLondon 9 ай бұрын

@@maverick4123Also, I don't think I'm being too harsh to say that Mike Dean was not the best on-field referee in his day, yet the powers that be put him on VAR. Who thought that was a good decision to begin with?

@henryhoratio5355 9 ай бұрын

Would Simon be saying this if he still owned Palace and this decision got them relegated

@mikee7406 9 ай бұрын

Did he own Palace?

@jajaafrica 9 ай бұрын

@@mikee7406yes

@Rubideux 9 ай бұрын

@mikee7406 Yes. He ran them so well they ended up going into administration.

@elitestuntman5195 9 ай бұрын

Well he wouldn’t even be saying this if it wasn’t on his podcast let alone if it involved a club he owned 🤷‍♂️

@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings 9 ай бұрын

Simon Jordan defends Levy,Bohley,Mike Dean,Howard Webb Top bloke,proper clobber?🤣

@markt804 9 ай бұрын

"So he wasn't capable of being a referee then, was he?". Bang on Martin.

@zip7275 9 ай бұрын

What Simon is doing here is exactly what he had a go at Piers Morgan for when he interviewed Ronaldo.

@dariussparkes7080 9 ай бұрын

Jesus Christ... that's indefensible from Mike Dean.

@noelquigley8033 9 ай бұрын

And Jordan give him a free pass 😮😮😮

@paullyboi1990 9 ай бұрын

Disappointed in simon Jordan sticking up for mike dean and not calling out the shambolic refereeing we have in this country ! Thank goodness for mr keown👏

@samlam554 9 ай бұрын

As a Chelsea fan this makes me mad af. That game was a pivotal game for the season for us. It was early in the season, at home against one your major rivals. We were dominating that game. And then had this horrible decision. That led to the unforgettable handshake. Chelsea would have started on a high. But I’m contrast it was the downfall of Tuchel at Chelsea. The fact that Mike dean is so casual about this frustrating. Referees have to be held accountable as much as players for simulation or cheating in the game. Or outright incompetence. Millions of dollars and jobs are at stake each game. The fact that he was doing it to protect his friend is utter nonsense

@philb9521 9 ай бұрын

JORDAN, YOU'RE DOING THE EXACT SAME THING, PROTECTING A 'MATE', OR YOUR SHOW 😂😂

@anthonyboylan5436 9 ай бұрын

What I get from this is that you can't trust a single thing that happens in the VAR room because the guy in there doesn't want to put extra aggro on his mate so they're more inclined to go with what the on field referee decided than actually use the technology that they're designated to use

@DodgyTodger 9 ай бұрын

It's things like this have me screaming for AI to take over 😂. Seriously though, a bloody chimp could do a better job, at least it would be honest

@muhammadyasin7359 9 ай бұрын

Probably ended up costing tuchel his job, who knows that result might have made him stay at Chelsea longer. Referees don’t understand the long term consequences of their bad decisions.

@dagogogreene9155 9 ай бұрын

It sure did, tuchel was frustrated from then on… and knowing Tuchel, he carries emotions on his sleeves.. EPL is just trash FA, PGMOL all of them.

@chrisb4474 9 ай бұрын

That didn’t cost Tuchel his job! He got sacked for non footballing reasons

@muhammadyasin7359 9 ай бұрын

No one can tell for sure. Most if the times if your results are good on the pitch than things you do off the pitch are excused. I am nit saying this is the only reason.

@onochieosaji9427 9 ай бұрын

What Mike Dean did puts a huge spotlight on every decision he's made as a VAR. It also strengthens the calls for an unbiased third party to be present for VAR duties because if Mike Dean, an experienced ref can put sentimentality before his professionalism, then people like Paul Tierney who Klopp has openly accused of bias and who failed to make the right VAR call when Mac Allister was wrongfully red carded last weekend has to be seriously questioned and looked at closely.

@scorpionsrock1511 9 ай бұрын

They’re all at it. They need deep cleansing… starting with the guy at the top, Howard Web!!! Man Utd through and through! And we talk about the integrity of the game???

@b.r.e.t.t.s.a.n.d.l.e.r 9 ай бұрын

Simon's scrambling. There's a difference between not being comfortable in the VAR booth and being blatantly dishonest. Martin's on point. If this is Mike's default response under pressure, I wonder how often he made similar dishonest calls?

@Dingo-x 9 ай бұрын

I'm not a fan of Martin Keown, but on this one i have to agree with him. Just a couple of games into the season and we've already had some controversial var decisions being made!

@liamwright2510 9 ай бұрын

I get the feeling a similar thing happened with the Macallister red card to this.

@norwoodboy6048 9 ай бұрын

So he now works for Sky giving his punditry on Refs decisions but he has said he could not work in VAR, WTF is that about?

@littyagain 9 ай бұрын

And he's still giving explanations on var decisions that are biased 😕

@garygrimmett7945 9 ай бұрын

Mike Dean is terrible 😢

@alanmcclelland5245 9 ай бұрын

What about the 'tackle' by the Manu goalie in the Wolves game, definitely a penalty. Just watched the documentary on the betting scandal by refs in the NBA. The fix was in.

@riadramsaroop8248 9 ай бұрын

It was the first game of the season. The loss of points, the millions lost by those who bet on the result, tuchel subsequently losing his job etc. were all impacted by Mike Dean deciding to protect his friend.

@larchielad 9 ай бұрын

Martins right here simon, make the right decision its HIS JOB!!!! Send him to the bloody screen.

@colinedelman6392 9 ай бұрын

If I was Tuchel, I'd absolutely sue him and PGMOL. This single decision changed Chelsea and Tuchel entire season.

@captaincrag 9 ай бұрын

Tuchel got the sack less than a month after this, how much time would a win over local rivals have bought him.

@nsd_respect 9 ай бұрын

Relax mate.

@khayanyathi7114 9 ай бұрын

He was suspended for next game and Chelsea got smashed 3-0 at Leeds

@colinedelman6392 9 ай бұрын

@@captaincrag he got suspended and next game they lost 3-0… if they win that game, most likely they go on a run. They played really well up till that point.

@Lioness_UTV 9 ай бұрын

Tuchel got the sack because he and Boehly were not getting on and something went down internally. We'll no doubt get the details in 20 yrs. Regardless it was not because of this result.

@cyril3717 9 ай бұрын

DELUSIONAL from Mike Dean..he lied a YEAR ago for his friend... ..this IS STILL GOING ON IN THE GAME....

@veeman879 9 ай бұрын

Considering how outraged Simon gets about Boxing scandals, he is just protecting a mate here too and trying to confuse people with words as per usual

@MrNileM 9 ай бұрын

No idea how on earth Simon Jordan can defend Mike Dean

@Ryan-ep4py 9 ай бұрын

Just like piers Morgan with Ronaldo…because he was the one interviewing dean.

@ryanflood635 9 ай бұрын

Simon gave him a rope to climb up and instead Mike Dean hung himself with it. so Simon now regrets giving him the rope.

@MikeBeSafe 9 ай бұрын

Because he interviewed him and has this fetish protecting refs when 90% of them are crap

@Uppercut676 9 ай бұрын

Keown stating its fraudulent and Jim white thinks that's harsh.. That's exactly what it is!

@keenangan6047 9 ай бұрын

Cause it’s Simon Jordan

@MarkAtherton 9 ай бұрын

Absolute disgrace. Corruption everywhere nowadays.

@SueMyChin 9 ай бұрын

That's now what corruption means.

@paulmallon9292 9 ай бұрын

@@SueMyChin I generally don't agree with Keown but it is corruption. The definition is 'dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power, typically involving bribery. "the journalist who wants to expose corruption in high places"'. Money doesn't have to change hands. It's certainly dishonest conduct.

@MarkAtherton 9 ай бұрын

@@SueMyChin of course it is. In this case Mike Dean was corrupted by self interest and protection of his mate. He failed to do what was expected of him and his judgment was influenced towards a biased outcome.

@colinedelman6392 9 ай бұрын

@@MarkAtherton Nowdays?? How do you think Man U built their legacy? Is it a coincidence since Webb is back we are complaining about it every week now?

@paullyboi1990 9 ай бұрын

@@colinedelman6392it's no coincidence, we hav3 been talking about these poor refereeing decisions for years if not generations...hence why var was introduced in the first place🤷

@gambleo1536 9 ай бұрын

Keown spot on, if Dean isn’t ‘capable’ of making correct decisions for the best of a game, he was never capable to referee, period

@michael-jamescaroline9366 9 ай бұрын

That offside goal from Brentford against Arsenal makes me wonder…

@MrSupasheva 9 ай бұрын

This is astonishing and I get that even Simon is trying to protect Mike because he convinced him to speak on his pod. but ultimately its a very alarming admission. How different is this from a linesman making a call on a penalty / offside? We can have all the technology but the people behind it are the reason we had all those horrendous decisions last season

@docholiday-lm4vf 9 ай бұрын

Simon has defended all refs and var for 2 years now. It’s pathetic!!! Var and refs in the prem ate terrible, everyone sees it yet he defends them

@lenl860 9 ай бұрын

@@docholiday-lm4vfVAR is good but the use of it is bad, having technology to spot a handball or look at extreme tackles or incidents initially missed is good to keep the game fair. The clown show running it has no consistency and honestly proves that the human error still ruins football

@Rockydenzel 9 ай бұрын

It’s proper alarming it feels like a whistle blow to a certain extent we all thought it could be the case but no it’s concrete

@abiodunodeleye7984 9 ай бұрын

He didn’t miss it, it was not an error. He purposefully didn’t make the call!

@stanleyigboanugo1245 9 ай бұрын

Unbelievable stuff, really! 😂

@leemcphail634 9 ай бұрын

As an Arsenal fan I can't say I'm surprised! Always thought Dean was bent!

@scorpionsrock1511 9 ай бұрын

All those penalties awarded to Sp*rs against us, and some of them were even outside the box. The game is corrupt!

@boxmad9850 9 ай бұрын

Bad outlook from Jordan. Keown was spittin pure facts 👏

@MONEYLAB001 9 ай бұрын

Martin is Correct. Its integrity and Honesty For The Values of Fairplay in Sports. Nothing more, nothing less.

@JoksterMcDougan 9 ай бұрын

Mike Dean still wanting the limelight. All his admission has done is a) put him in the spotlight he loves and b) undermined all of his ‘mates’ in the PGMOL. Not surprised Simon is backing Dean having been on his podcast. Love the “you have to go and listen to the entire interview” line too. PS - has Simon just come back from Turkey? 😜😂

@ThatGuy-tx4vm 9 ай бұрын

Simon is just a dog who defends corruption on every opportunity he has.

@isthatakingfisher2931 9 ай бұрын

Now we know why they don’t want referees to do interviews cos the minute they do they spill the beans about shielding their mates, unbelievable. It’s a disgrace!

@raywalker6376 9 ай бұрын

For once Martin i totally agree with your statement he is a professional ref no bias, but did it for his mate, absolute scandalous. That match could have been the two teams contesting for champion status. if his feelings are involved to letting his mate off, then it could be said the same if his feelings go as far to teams he likes or dislikes.

@christopherbutton1804 9 ай бұрын

It’s got nothing to do with ‘being capable’ and everything to do with helping out his mate. Completely unacceptable and a true reflection of the officiating in this country. Rotten to the core

@scorpionsrock1511 9 ай бұрын

@@Terminator-ds9le 🤣🤣🤣 Are you Simon Jordan in disguise?????? Players are young competitors! They’d do anything to win (not that I condone cheating)! Referee’s job is to keep law and order on the pitch! Above all, in order to ensure his authority, he has to have integrity and fair and unbiased judgment!!!! Now go and analyse what I said above and come back and enter the discussion, as you’re speaking like you’re Simon Jordan or Mike Dean in disguise.

@harrybean3374 9 ай бұрын

Really surprised by Simon’s perspective on this tbh!

@libby4608 9 ай бұрын

@@kevinconway2965if it was any other person’s podcast he’d be seething and ripping into the ref

@kayceee6770 9 ай бұрын

Only part that I agree on with Simon is that some of the refs, if not all, are not suited to working on VAR. VAR officials should be separately trained personnel that are not active on the field refs. Find people who actually know the rules and can make objective decisions. Everything else I agree with Martin

@alzer6467 9 ай бұрын

I'm not surprised at all, Jordan is just a well spoken contrarian and most Talksport listeners aren't the smartest so they get taken in by him. Hes always being "edgy" by going against the grain. He can't help himself and now he's ended up simping for Mike Dean.

@harrybean3374 9 ай бұрын

@@kevinconway2965 I get he is trying that angle (and potentially him trying to enable himself access to further guests by doing so) but I thought his whole brand or ‘persona’ was blunt, concise honesty. This comes across as at best cynical self interest or worse indifference toward a ref admitting to cheating! (If a player did something similar he’d be the first on his soapbox!) I’m just surprised as I think it’s an unintelligent PR move

@spinofthewheel5345 9 ай бұрын

@@alzer6467exactly they are blinded by their love for him for some unknown reason

@troy8613 9 ай бұрын

I almost NEVER agree with Keown but here I am!

@Ad-wu8te 9 ай бұрын

Never mind Mike Dean, at least he’s being honest. God knows how many of these other refs make the wrong decisions for similar reasons. Would explain why with some decisions, everyone in the world and their dog can see what’s the right decisions but the refs somehow don’t.

@atikurrahman9304 9 ай бұрын

This was an unreal admission from him. Absolutely disgusting.

@dagogogreene9155 9 ай бұрын

I bet he didn’t understand how the interview works

@lopetonceba1059 9 ай бұрын

Absolutely unreal, but him making this admission doesn't it help us then know the kind of problems that exist with referees? Had he not said anything we wouldn't have know such things might exist

@banditalley9592 9 ай бұрын

Many fans have always assumed that VAR is refs looking after their mates - at least now we know it's true. They need to take referees out of this and bring in ex players in VAR.

@user-om4fo3vg3u 9 ай бұрын

Well how would that work? That would be even worse, instead of ex refs protecting mates, you would have ex players looking after mates/teams.

@dagogogreene9155 9 ай бұрын

Just bring in foreign experts to handle var with no attachment to PGMOL, and sound out their communications through the stadium speakers.

@vjaska 9 ай бұрын

This just backs up what Wenger said about Dean 5 years ago and it backs my own opinion about how these referees have operated in the Prem for years

@JLaw-jr7ir 9 ай бұрын

I’d love to see Simmons take if the interview was done on the overlap

@ZaineKnight 9 ай бұрын

Very well said

@ruthy0026 9 ай бұрын

I'm confused how he was terrified of make in a decision as a var ref ? His integrity surely is blemished how can he be involved in the game ? The fact he made the statement and he said it was to protect his mate and not the game is madness fans will think all the refs are sus now

@AM-so9oq 9 ай бұрын

How can someone say they're not capable of doing VAR? What, you're not capable of watching a replay in slow motion to spot a blatant & obvious foul?? Probably the worst argument I've ever heard, Simon and Jim just backing Dean 'cos he did Simons special podcast. If a player admitted to cheating they'd be all over them like a rash

@MichaelCastle143 9 ай бұрын

He's obviously incapable of having any integrity

@Lioness_UTV 9 ай бұрын

You need to listen to the interview. He didn't do this on purpose, he already said that it was unforgivable what he did but there are reasons. And its those reasons that need to be listened to. For some, being a VAR ref is like you are judge and jury, and he couldn't do it effectively. We forget that refs are human too, not these perfect ppl.

@Ejdfj 9 ай бұрын

@@Lioness_UTV he quite clearly alluded to the fact that he made the decision to protect his mate; it wasn't a mistake he made it was a well-thought out act because he felt bad for his mate. As the primary commentor said, how can he not be good enough to be in the VAR room but he can be a ref? You're given more time and technology to decide what the conclusion is... if anything it's easier than a ref because you have so much more time to decide if it's a foul or not. Simon is protecting him because he was party to the conversation in question.

@exitthelemming145 9 ай бұрын

Which job might you think would be more stressful?: having to make decisions within a nanosecond of the event on the field, having both sets of fans abuse you, both sets of players and technical staff trying to con you into making the wrong call OR sitting in front of a screen, safely ensconced miles from the stadium where you can watch endless slowed down replays of the action to alert refs about decisions that might warrant a second look.

@docholiday-lm4vf 9 ай бұрын

@lioness you are missing the point. The interview does nit matter!! What matters here is car and refs are not doing there jobs correctly regardless of the whys and buts. Simon for two years has defended refs and var and its a disgrace

@Do27gg 9 ай бұрын

The mac allister red card needs to be investigated. The VAR room at the game has Paul tierney (klopp openly saying he hates him) and the linesman that elbowed robertson. There is no way in hell there wasn’t bias not rescinding the red card

@littyagain 9 ай бұрын

The United one as well. Letting the ref walk to go give a card to the wolves manager and not tell him to walk a few metres further and check a TV screen is just as bad

@Do27gg 9 ай бұрын

@@littyagain 100%

@Ejdfj 9 ай бұрын

Managers are not allowed to publicly speak out about referees because they might get sanctioned, yet Mike has clearly confirmed a lot of people's concerns over refereeing integrity. How can you fine a manager for criticising refereeing decisions but referees can make atrocious decisions and never have to face interviews? They're so protected it's disgusting and it is one of the few times I've thought Simon is deliberately side-stepping the issue, he is usually quite direct but he's avoiding the real issue.

@Ps-zl9is 9 ай бұрын

Just imagine how many more of these occurrences has happened in these past seasons. They get away with everything, no accountability

@dannysaidu1964 9 ай бұрын

Can you imagine if it was Piers Morgan that did the interview with Mike Dean, Simon J would have been losing his mind this morning. Simon is trying so hard to defend the indefensible here.

@CharlesTIII 9 ай бұрын

Simon tryna help his mate right now. Defending a shambolic admission bc the guy said it on his podcast.

@chrisgoldstone3716 9 ай бұрын

It should be public record which team all of these officials supports.

@ZEQIPO 9 ай бұрын

Simon is a hypocrite!! Now that it’s his mate he’s defending his terrible actions. Martin is absolutely right, how many of these incompetent actions has he committed during his time as a ref?! 🤔

@LegendNinja41 9 ай бұрын

@@Terminator-ds9le alot of things are on the line though, it's not a school game. alot of money, attention and pressure on the players, managers, everyone and we all know how alot of fans act and what they say/do just because of a bad result or bad performance by a player.

@LegendNinja41 9 ай бұрын

@@Terminator-ds9le gotta point there tbf.

@alexischristou3266 9 ай бұрын

Im honestly quite astonished after hearing this from Dean. Which shows that some people in the VAR room are to emotive or have friendships that effects there ability of executing the laws of the game. Theres a word for that deriliction.

@420MrReefer 9 ай бұрын

Mike dean was always know for questionable decisions and this confirms everything

@TabsT-vy5jy 9 ай бұрын

Mike dean didnt surprise us. We all knew this already

@charleslebi7297 9 ай бұрын

This is the stuff that actually affects the integrity of the sport. We always knew that Mike Dean was a crap official but these new revelations kind put some of his stupidity in a new light.

@bryguy572 9 ай бұрын

That he wanted to protect his mate and saying he' wanted to spare Taylor "grief" is an indictment on corruption in the game. Simon is way off on his narrative that he's coming clean and "couldn't do the job". That was nothing to do with doing the job, apparently he knew it was a foul and red card, just decided against making the call. This is probably a lot more common in officiating, especially the Premier League, than we all think as there's really no excuses for so many poor calls on the field. Where you sit there and ask "how could they call this?" or "how could they miss that?". I struggled to believe it was just incompetence and Mike Dean just confirmed there are additional elements at play and it is not ONLY down to incompetence. This is a scandal when you consider the money involved in each game played.

@RebelWisdom 9 ай бұрын

One thing that no-one talks about with VAR, how does it affect the decisions made on the pitch when the ref knows that VAR exists - I bet they make less decisions knowing there's a backup

@theblues8840 9 ай бұрын

Simon comparing a manager getting his team selection wrong to a referee not doing his job in order to protect his mate 🤣

@jamiekb9v 9 ай бұрын

and Tuchel got disciplined for complaining about it!

@patters1978 9 ай бұрын

As an arsenal fan ive known dean to be corrupt for years, not really shocking news

@tommetcalfe8163 9 ай бұрын

There’s one thing not being capable, it’s another deliberately looking past an incident as clear as anything, to save his mate making a decision which is actually very simple and they look worse now because of it! We’ve enough issues with referring and VAR without this setting the room on fire!

@triplenz 9 ай бұрын

Simon is helping out his mate here.

@jamesbutler7547 9 ай бұрын

How on earth can Mike Dean say this so casually. It’s unbelievable!

@keenangan6047 9 ай бұрын

Thank the lord he’s not there anymore

@joemac9249 9 ай бұрын

Absolutely shows they aren't using VAR to help get fair results

@Hubris030 9 ай бұрын

You'd love to live a lie at any costs. Outraged comment on KZfaq when someone takes your blinkers off and tells you the truth 😅

@DodgyTodger 9 ай бұрын

8 million net worth, he doesn't give a f

@jagi1484 9 ай бұрын

Martin spot on here.

@ocubex 9 ай бұрын

I can't believe Simon can even try to defend this!

@victormakeleni9245 9 ай бұрын

Simon loves the sound of his voice. He always has to be right

@Lfceva 9 ай бұрын

He should be forced to pay both conte and tuchel 35k each the same amount both had to pay as a fine because of a dispute that came from this decision

@kabelomaragelo2745 9 ай бұрын

I agree with Martin 100%

@nigelpayne6133 9 ай бұрын

When you hear this, then think about the recent game at Old Trafford. There's definitely some corruption going on.

@me4374 9 ай бұрын

Let’s be honest Mike dean wasn’t capable of being an on field ref, but that never stopped him before. The amount of penalties and red cards he gave against Man Utd was a joke

@benmartin7708 9 ай бұрын

It’s just another blow to their integrity tbh. We all know the officiating in the English game is sub par but now we know it’s corrupt too if we didn’t know it before. The recent Onana clothesline in the wolves game comes to mind how was that missed how can that be justified. We need post game explanations and we need to start hearing the var conversations for transparency

@Mansa-kunda 9 ай бұрын

Simon is clearly speaking as a business person today 😂

@aaroncarter7164 9 ай бұрын

The ultimate irony here is Simon Jordan batting for his mate

@luisbronson2349 9 ай бұрын

@talksport Never allowing Martin to finish his point once again…….he is saying that if one part of the refereeing is compromised then what else is also compromised…. Integrity in refereeing is vital as they are in a position of power which ultimately affects the game and possibly the final outcome

@davidfisher2359 9 ай бұрын

That's a complete disgrace. Shocking!

@BlueBloodPenn 9 ай бұрын

You don’t need to have played the game or been involved in sport to understand that this is a threat to the integrity of the game. Yes there are subjective elements, yes there personal view and yes there are mistakes. But (for once) Martin is spot on. When you are in the position of authority where your actions have consequences and it is the literally job to interpret the rule to the best of your ability, to throw that away for any reason is shocking.