Simon Jordan QUESTIONS If FFP Rules Should Be CHANGED For New Owners To Allow Them To Spend MORE 💰😳

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TalkSPORT's Simon Jordan suggests FFP rules could be altered in order for new owners, such as at Newcastle and Chelsea, to be able to compete with rivals.
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@scottcampbell3644 5 ай бұрын

It's the top clubs who benefit most from FFP and they are ALSO the one's who pay the massive wages to players to poach them or prevent them from moving to other clubs who can't afford their wages.

@Jaycensolo 5 ай бұрын

The top clubs like Man Utd and Barcelona that can have to loans because of FFP. Or the fact PSG, Inter, Juventus and Milan all got fined for breaching UEFA FFP in September 2022.

@scottcampbell3644 5 ай бұрын

@@Jaycensolo What difference does a fine (or even a points deduction) make to the big clubs? If Everton lose points they are at risk of relegation. If City lose points it just means they will finish a bit lower down in the league for one season.

@Jaycensolo 5 ай бұрын

@@scottcampbell3644 Ask that clubs to clubs like Arsenal that due to missing out on CL football had to cut player wages by 20%. Or to two Chelsea who are now going to miss 2 seasons of European football. That is huge amounts of money lost. Yes not as much as being relegated but could mean some cuts / a big player sold to try and counter it. Edit - not to mention loss of sponsorship bonuses if they do miss out on Europe. They would also lose extra matches so would lose out on match day revenue as well.

@lewisbeadling779 5 ай бұрын

FFP is basically keeping the “big 6” safe from other owners of clubs challenging for there league, I agree with Simon a 2 year double loss would be great for new owners there taking over someone who didn’t want to run the clubs mess l. It isn’t just player transfers it’s , training facilities, stadium makeovers and maintenance etc

@creasicle 5 ай бұрын

The 'big six' as you put it are five of the most well-supported clubs in England and City. If proper FFP rules had been put in place when Abrahmovic rocked up and started throwing his dirty money at Chelsea, City would still be yo-yoing between the Premier League and League One where they'd spent much of the last 30 years. The reason Arsenal, Liverpool and Man Utd are where they are is because they have huge fanbases and their success spans generations. Would you prefer it to just be billionaire-backed playthings like City and Newcastle slugging it out for eternity? Who knows if Reynolds and McElhenney can find some Hollywood billionaires Wrexham could join them. You're also completely ignoring the fact that teams like Brighton and Leicester have managed to gatecrash the party without financial doping. Maybe the problem isn't FFP but how the majority of teams spend their money?

@lewisbeadling779 5 ай бұрын

@@creasicle them “big 6” clubs are well known all around the world massively there commercial deals are so different to a wolves or a Bournemouth but yet they are able to spend more.

@BigAsianMan1999 5 ай бұрын

I would rather a 5 horse race of city, Liverpool, arsenal and Newcastle and villa than a 1 horse man city race

@frasierfreak92 5 ай бұрын

I’m pretty sure most European clubs think the same of teams like Burnley and Bournemouth who can outspend Inter Milan despite finishing in the bottom of the table. The EPL is insanely rich compared to other leagues. You’re not the Big 6 and need to earn your way there.

@Surveillance-Ys 5 ай бұрын

@@lewisbeadling779big 6 narrative is false. Some of those big 6 are affected by ffp themselves and some are on the ffp watchlist. Also those clubs spend in relation to their sustained past successes. Whereby they built global fanbase and have earned that commercial income. Clubs like city and Chelsea didn't as they were financially doped..this practice is unsustainable and is toxic for the product long-term.

@jimhuf8102 5 ай бұрын

United can have a massive debt but Newcastle cant spend hard cash.

@jdogg448 5 ай бұрын

I haven't ever looked into it but it does seem bizarre that the Glazers can load Man United up to the gills in debt yet it effects nothing? they just continue as normal spending a huge amount.

@mustardegg2 5 ай бұрын

@@jdogg448Utd are bust, they have to get loans for Weghorst, Ambrabrat… their stadium is rotten … they cannot continue as normal

@ste4392 5 ай бұрын

I don't think the Glazers could buy a club like they did now, with the new rules

@leemartell7086 5 ай бұрын

@@ste4392they could. Some of the bidders they had in the past year were planning to finance it the same way. It isn’t that different to the way Chelsea are currently owned either. Instead of a bank, you have financiers. They have just swapped interest payments for dividends

@jdogg448 5 ай бұрын

@@ste4392 yes that has changed, no more leveraged buyouts.

@thecannylads 5 ай бұрын

NUFC have owners who could buy all the top 6 clubs but can’t spend to compete with the top 6 it’s a joke the top 6 are protected for decades and they know it.

@Freestyle80 5 ай бұрын

yeah so Oil clubs like you cant just randomly spend, bloody grow properly first

@b4dass 5 ай бұрын

If you wanted real fairness every team would have the same transfer cap. FFP means the big 6 can spend way more and thats the way you want to keep it. A closed shop and anti competition

@thecannylads 5 ай бұрын

Chelsea were allowed to spend spend spend City and LiVARpool about the same Man Utd just wasted their billions but nobody can buy a 1 billion + team it’s ridiculous

@lovejoy3347 5 ай бұрын

Give over. Manchester United wouldn't spend £172 million on Mbappe. But they would spend that on West Brom standard Conor Gallagher 🤣😂😅

@Lioness_UTV 5 ай бұрын

FFP should be changed because those restrictions hurt smaller market clubs.

@riyadhussain3384 5 ай бұрын

Yeah like for Everton but then you say Man City is getting a free pass

@russellward4624 5 ай бұрын

@@riyadhussain3384because they haven't done anything wrong

@user-ls1lu7gu4u 5 ай бұрын

Every club is a bigger club than another club and vice versa. I’m sure there are smaller clubs than the club you support whereby they could say you have an unfair advantage. You can’t just look at it like that. Newcastle have suffered dross for the past 15 years. Those hardworking fans have consistently pumped there money into the club.

@Yob365 5 ай бұрын

So you just didnt listen huh. If FFP is changed, clubs like Newcastle with UNLIMITED money and relaxed FFP would buy and put huge WAGES on their players, THUS inflating the market. As a result, those smaller clubs would have to raise thier wages also meaning they are screwed lol

@tinderuppal 5 ай бұрын

@Yob365 because City, Man United, PSG etc haven't done that already?

@ssoolliidd1 5 ай бұрын

theyll bring something like this in 'just in time' for Man U to go mad but NUFC will then fall into the 'over 3 years of ownership' category (or similar to whatever model is brought in!)

@MickyMuffMuncher 5 ай бұрын

this is 100% gonna happen

@Charlieb82 5 ай бұрын

I'm still hoping that Newcastle will run the CAT case again and get all the skeletons out into the open

@Freestyle80 5 ай бұрын

no one cares about Saudi FC

@jun3078 5 ай бұрын

Ive only seen FFP destroying smaller clubs since its inception.

@Tarek_ElMaddah 5 ай бұрын

How many clubs went to Administration since?

@DJ-fl4gn 5 ай бұрын

If the rules aren't changed, then the Premier League will eventually become like Germany or France. Boring leagues, dominated by a single team.

@temporaryuseraccount0012 5 ай бұрын

Have you been watching the league table this season? 🤣

@darylmathew7502 5 ай бұрын

@@temporaryuseraccount0012 The EPL is like France and Germany. Man City has won the league 5 of the past 6 years, and they'll end up winning it again this season

@ifldiscovery8500 5 ай бұрын

@@darylmathew7502City is best team in the world PSG and Bayer are not so them dominating makes no sense.

@russellward4624 5 ай бұрын

@@darylmathew7502as apposed to when utd won the league 12xs out of 20?

@phatstan1466 5 ай бұрын

@@russellward4624the point is it's changing. The top 4 turned into the top 6 and this year even more are catching up.

@Marais-cu3vo 5 ай бұрын

A fair FFP would be where all PL teams are allowed to spend the same. You can't have Chelsea spending 1 billion or Arsenal buying Rice for £105 million while Newcastle can't spend more than £70million. In Spain it's even worse Real and Barcelona can spend 780 million while the likes of Almeria and Granada can spend 10 million.

@dannytallmage2971 5 ай бұрын

Careful that’s how American sports work and people don’t like to be reminded how the PL copied the entire NFL sports marketing plan.

@Geokinkladze 5 ай бұрын

Michel Platini introduced FFP the year after the Abu Dhabi take over of City. Platini said "I just want clubs to spend their own money", which is exactly what City have done. It was all about stopping clubs like City buying their way in, the club that suffers the most in the prem now is Newcastle.

@andywoodland2753 5 ай бұрын

So what your saying is Newcastle are getting shafted as Chelsea and city basically did what they wanted but we have had a takeover when restrictions are at thier peak with nothing in place to allow us to even catch up.

@brobsonmontey 5 ай бұрын

FFP by itself is something that new owners can work with, because they can negotiate new partnerships & sponsorships that increase the revenues of the club. The bit that makes FFP a problem is the new FMV rules - the FMV rules mean that the new owner can't negotiate new sponsorships based on projected value, that those sponsorships need to be based on the current "fair market value". This means a smaller club has to take decades, to very slowly escalate the FMV compliant sponsorship deals (as they very slowly increase the value & profile of the club), to catch up - no new owner comes in with the intention of taking decades to progress their new business. The problem is less the FFP rules and more the new FMV rules - the FMV rules are the ones designed to protect the "big-6" cartel.

@MarkChandler-fb1fm 5 ай бұрын

The top clubs can spend more money because they can. The lower teams don't stand a chance, if they have a great season and get into the top 4 or top 6, they play in another competition the next year and then the can't afford the extra players and then the following year they can't keep up.

@daviddavis9256 5 ай бұрын

I agree...but city was a lower club..we broke up a top four cartel...utd l.pool Chelsea and arsenal ..I hope Newcastle and any other teams gets investment aswell...but that doesn't guarantee success...but it certainly them a better chance

@geordiedog1749 5 ай бұрын

Totally agree with PSR if I’m honest. It hurts my team because they have been brought in after other teams have spent unrestricted gazillions and bought success and therefore increased income and thus can spend more. I like the idea about a window at the start of the new ownership. A free for all could mean a very rich owner would be able to, for example, form a team and call it “London United” , buy players, buy a ground and staff it. The ground has a capacity of 50 seats so only the owner and his chums can watch. Offer the very highest wages and buy the very best players. Win stuff. But with no football fans. Extreme eg obviously but I’m sure you get the point. The other point they missed is that at the higher end of the football pyramid the limit of £1m is too small. That money buys you one very good press busting no 6 these days. And no change from it.

@skacel7 5 ай бұрын

The restrictions by FFP on Newcastle are an absolute disgrace. Chelsea can spend what they like but Newcastle can’t. We’ve finally got our super rich owner in Mohammed Bin Salman but the Premier League aren’t allowing him to spend his (self made) money on us because they want to protect the traditional big clubs. Disgusting. MBS made his money through hard work and he WANTS to spend it on us and make us the worlds best club, yet we aren’t allowed to spend. Utterly sick and once again Newcastle United are the victims.

@Deus-Vult472 5 ай бұрын

No. It’s like Bournemouth being taken over and start spending hundreds of millions You have been relegation candidates for years with no money, you can’t just start spending money without building your empire, you need at least 4/5 years in top 4 and qualify for champions league before you can spend big because of your previous league positions without said money

@skacel7 5 ай бұрын

But it's totally unfair on Mr. Bin Salman who bought us with his hard earned money and he's not being allowed to invest as he pleases. Really feel quite sad for MBS as his dream is being crushed by FFP@@Deus-Vult472

@fraserheath7956 5 ай бұрын

@Deus-Vult472 yes, because big clubs can spend more and will always be able to because of the rules which leads to the gap getting bigger between these teams rather than smaller

@Deus-Vult472 5 ай бұрын

@@fraserheath7956 dUrR, they’ve literally earned it… did United always spend big ? No, they built an empire then started spending, arsenal earned it, Liverpool earned it, because they all have a history of winning things, Newcastle do not

@thedok6419 5 ай бұрын

@@Deus-Vult472 you're right Newcastle doesn't but neither do Man C, Chelsea or Spurs.

@MarkChandler-fb1fm 5 ай бұрын

BS look at Chelsea, that owner spent a ton of money....

@hughiemg2 5 ай бұрын

Bigger commercial base and they utilised multi year player contracts as a work around as it amortizes the cost over a longer period. That loophole has now been closed

@paulnsno7198 5 ай бұрын

Is MpBappe good enough to be a squad player in the EPL for the investment of any team?

@gavincunningham4598 5 ай бұрын

They gave Chelsea and city a head start and are now reaping the rewards from prior to ffp

@mh9tv 5 ай бұрын

I would be in favour of a cost cap where every team is allowed to spent the same fixed amount on transfer wages etc eg every club allowed to spend £400mil a season on wages transfers

@TheEponymous82uk 5 ай бұрын

The rules will always benefit the richer clubs, even if they are changed, that's the way of the world. The problem in football now is that the authorities, FA, Premier League, UEFA, FIFA etc are incompetent and corrupt. They are supposed guardians of our game but find themselves only able to stick their snouts in the trough as the money and power of the new State sponsored owners is too much for them to control.

@mikem9309 5 ай бұрын

The worst thing about FFP is Man City waiting in a very powerful position because they did what newcastle want to do and in doing so triggered the people in charge to say ‘that shouldn’t be allowed, let’s make rules to stop It happening again. Too late- Man City already did it

@konthe678 5 ай бұрын

You do realize that ffp was introduced because City came into the game

@mikem9309 5 ай бұрын

exactly - they did silly spending and then ffp was introduced to try and stop that happening again. but ManCity got to keep their assets and thats why they are now at the top of the pile and ffp means noonw can repeat their trick @@konthe678

@_l0wkey_4 5 ай бұрын

So ffp is here to protect a specific number of clubs making it tough for small clubs to compete higher level then how is ffp fair

@mikem9309 5 ай бұрын

exactly. if ffp was there from the start it ould be a fair race but bringing it in after some clubs have got a headstart just makes the gap harder to close@@_l0wkey_4

@Burds1979 5 ай бұрын

Some rules could be changed such as a new owner coming in has 5 years to get their house in order rather than three from the date of ownership. Then every three years after that.

@Marais-cu3vo 5 ай бұрын

Simon is playing fool. Does he really think FFP was brought in to protect teams like Accrington Stanley? Can Accrington Stanley compete against Man United or Arsenal for players? Give me a break.

@scottcampbell3644 5 ай бұрын

Simon likes to pretend that FFP wasn't introduced to retain the status quo, but I'm not so sure that even he believes it.

@Surveillance-Ys 5 ай бұрын

Bet you can't provide actual context as to how it's there to retain the status quo.

@scottcampbell3644 5 ай бұрын

@@Surveillance-Ys It's common sense. If you were one of the richest clubs with the highest commercial revenue and turnover (enabling you to spend more money) at the time when FFP was introduced, you will always have the advantage over those who are trying to catch up.

@Surveillance-Ys 5 ай бұрын

@@scottcampbell3644 Clubs who have had sustained success and eras of domination have actually earned the high commercial revenue and turnover. They still held to the same regulations as all clubs. Your argument is further demeaned when you consider clubs like arsenal and united are on the ffp watchlist.

@benrogan9239 5 ай бұрын

I dont understand what jim White brings to any conversation, he doesnt listen to what people are saying, and comes out with his own view to cause more arguments, a human representation of the problems with the media.

@TheEponymous82uk 5 ай бұрын

Jim White is a naive simpleton, which is why he is employed by Talksport, he reflects the thinking of a majority of football fans.

@theyreallmeateatersmeteorm3043 5 ай бұрын

Scrap FFP altogether and we will get the best players in the premier league. As long as it’s not used to filter or launder money for nefarious purposes, let them spend the money however they want.

@jakefelix505 5 ай бұрын

Lol even still j ain't getting that. 😂😂 listen to u guys how shameful the prem is 😂😂😂

@larnx1692 5 ай бұрын

lol all you hear nowadays is fans complaining how much players get paid. You sure you want that?

@Freestyle80 5 ай бұрын

its so easy to spot Saudi FC fans

@lukelocks9083 5 ай бұрын

@ 04:26 DM staring at Simon, thinking 'how can you talk so fast and talk so much sense!' Wish my mind and tongue had a 4 & 5th gear too!

@johnearle1394 5 ай бұрын

When abramovitch+ sheik monsour bought Chelsea + man city ffp wasn't really around n could buy who you want but it's all changed so v hard for Newcastle at this time to compete with v big clubs + their owners are investors who long term want to make a profit

@samsungmccullagh3608 5 ай бұрын

There always be differences between top 6 because of there all 3 main incomes and mostly commercial. I would like too all owner put years wages into a fund that protects wages of players and staff. This should be paid upfront from new owners. Regarding FFP owners should be able too spend there own funds that dosent include FFP. Plus any club I'm debt shouldn't be allowed too spend owners money untill debt is gone.

@yogihightower 5 ай бұрын

Ffp is doing its job, its keeping those at the top that benefited from getting there before they came in. Pull the ladder up and call it FFP.

@wild4fp 5 ай бұрын

UTD wouldn't spend £172mill on Mbappe. They'd buy Maquire again for that price. Just what utd would do .

@AO19967 5 ай бұрын

Jim just call it a day

@petarpan8176 5 ай бұрын

Well said Simon, i agree 100%!!

@gjones8847 5 ай бұрын

Give Everton their points back

@patwhelan2781 5 ай бұрын

For me, the main problem with referees is the personality type nowadays. They used to be polucemen/military type. Now they are more like social workers

@chrismac2234 5 ай бұрын

We have ffp because of Leeds in the 90s. Maybe it should be tweeked a bit. But it can never change back now.

@RobertJones-ku4fg 5 ай бұрын

As long as Everton get their 10 points back 😂

@davidhughes4489 5 ай бұрын

It means the majority of clubs are stuck,,,if you cant invest then how the hell will you ever grow.

@winwinmoron 5 ай бұрын

Giving new ownership free reign for the first few years is just going to open the loophole where you keep on moving around the ownership using shell company.

@nikhilagarwal5295 5 ай бұрын

Whatever reason it was brought for. It is now a huge advantage to traditionally big teams.

@thedok6419 5 ай бұрын

Yes the traditionally big teams and also Man City, Chelsea and Tottenham.

@amlmorris 5 ай бұрын

Ffp should be a staggered system dependent on incoming revenues,so the clubs with lower revenues get more leeway in order to bridge the gap or attempt to catch up on clubs with higher revenue. This should be ongoing & not only for new club owners as Simon suggested, otherwise the clubs at the top who've been more consistent over recent times will hold a monopoly over other clubs which is bad for competition & very unfair. The current FFP regulations are a farce!

@grahamsidney9214 5 ай бұрын

That's a good idea. How else are other clubs meant to compete with the top teams would make it a lot fairer

@frankdux5693 5 ай бұрын

@@grahamsidney9214 that's the point of ffp. They don't want competition against the top clubs.

@paulharris3457 5 ай бұрын

I think it should be done on where teams finish like as a handicap system, similar in a way to the American football with the drafts only how much each team can spend depending on where they finished in the league the season before, and promoted sides could spend a bit extra to catch up. Wouldn't have to be much of a difference maybe like 5 or 10 million less per position down the league. And there needs to be a salary cap but I doubt they'd get that through because it's limiting someone's ability to earn

@phil.i.p8540 5 ай бұрын

Murphy might as well have gone and got himself a coffee…

@stevevenus1 5 ай бұрын

At the moment the rules favour the rich clubs(by revenue/profit) and make it difficult for a new player to provides competition and add vigour to the league.

@GBH001 5 ай бұрын

It clearly doesnt. Look at city, Newcastle, Chelsea

@GamingExplorerMike 5 ай бұрын

What point in FFP anyway ..... don't affect man city or chelsea

@Charlieb82 5 ай бұрын

Really what they should do is scrap FFP and make the owners of every club pay a bond each year to insure the club against bankruptcy - the bigger the club the higher the bond. That way if the club mismanages their finances it won't fold - if this happens though, the owners would forfeit their ownership and the club would be available to buy (which should be enough to pay back the insurers for the bail out). The club won't have the same finances, so won't be able to buy as many players again, but it'll be protected from going fully out of business, which was the reason for FFP, to prevent the likes of Bury from happening again.

@twatinahatsmith7428 5 ай бұрын

I agree Chelsea has only spent around a billion in the last few years😅 But seriously, you need some control of finances. Don't think many clubs make a profit. Letting them just spend money will only put extra expense on the fans in the long run. They use the excuse that they can't compete with the richer clubs. But they then themselves make that clubs without rich owners can't compete with them over time. So, trying to make it fair only helps those with extremely rich owners.

@garymillican4343 5 ай бұрын

How is FFP fair when even commentators are coming out with clubs near the bottom will have to sell their best players?

@OfficialFA 5 ай бұрын

So Jim just says anything to suit his argument, even if it's not true...😂😂

@jonnyhull7860 5 ай бұрын

Scrap it all together let these owners spend wot they want ,but if the owners want too sell the club make them clear the debt strait the way else the get points deduction or go into administration or get thrown out the league if they dont clear it

@MarkChandler-fb1fm 5 ай бұрын

Revenue sharing......equal to all teams...

@jpswaddle7899 5 ай бұрын

Everyone knows FFP was and is setup to protect the old guard clubs of Europe. The broken, indebted old men of Europe, Man Utd, Real Madrid, Barca, Juve, etc....

@SBandy 5 ай бұрын

"naval gazing" Simon's new favourite phrase.

@SBandy 5 ай бұрын

She really looks like Ron Pearlman playing the beast in that tv show.

@stevenpenten8297 5 ай бұрын

FFP/PSR is all used now to keep the majority of teams unable to compete financially with the big teams. The way around this is to produce your own talent, yes this model takes time, but create players yourself and create a team with young players and actually coach and improve them. Unfortunately teams never get chance as soon as a player with a decent season is picked off by the bigger teams and so on... FFP/PSR shouldn't be bringing lower teams along by having to offload their talent. That's financially sustainable but not competitively sustainable. Only way to improve the competitiveness of the game is a rule where every team have to field 2 under 21 Home grown player's and those are replaced on the hour every game by 2 more that are on the bench. There is too wide of a gap financially and competitively just in the premier League as a start. Even TV money isn't allocated equally,how can you create a competition where there advantages for others immediately and continuously. It's being done every year just because people want to see man city v Liverpool on TV rather than. Forrest and Burnley. It's not fair and those that can implement the fair system choose not to.

@lfcspectre4335 5 ай бұрын

Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber ✊

@oumuamua1963 5 ай бұрын

As a newcastle fan, ffp should not protect the big teams but promote competition

@MikeBeSafe 5 ай бұрын

Jim gagging for Newcastle to be allowed to spend a few billion. Ridiculous

@allanjones8789 5 ай бұрын

All I hear is Jim wanting Newcastle to get what they want because they now can afford it frather then under their previous owner.

@stevehay2293 5 ай бұрын

Ffp simply stops any football club from getting anywhere near the top six . How is that in any way fair .

@johnw7409 5 ай бұрын

My suggestion to ffp Your owners are allowed to invest in the team up to the value of 500m over three seasons on the caveat that you pay 20% on top towards grass roots football If the owner has just came in then that fee is reduced to 10% for the first year but the are allowed say 100m extra to get the club in good financial condition Owners cannot be changed year on year teams who benefit from the boost cannot apply for it for 5-10 years? Clubs are not allowed to sustain any losses any losses have to be soaked up by the 500m injection

@davidknight2104 5 ай бұрын

As Jordan says "2 things can be true at the same time" FFP was brought in for both reasons

@swannnny 5 ай бұрын

Why does Jim White try and find issues that aren't there all the time, he's so argumentative and such a smug prick

@mairtinotuairisg9844 5 ай бұрын

Totally agree, his arguments are all over the shop.

@omatseyeugen5697 5 ай бұрын

It is good for the show.

@gegoooooo 5 ай бұрын

@@omatseyeugen5697exactly he deliberately plays devilsadvecot😂

@BritishRosie-es3zr 5 ай бұрын

Allowing spending based on the size of your club's income is grossly unfair. Set the spending limit by the lowest income team in the division and make all the big teams stick to that. If Luton can only have say £20m to spend then Man City can only spend £20m. Level playing field, everyone has a chance of winning, not those who spend £1BN versus those who have a ground in a terraced street. It's a ridiculous system

@jonnyhull7860 5 ай бұрын

Thats stupidist thing ive herd 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@russellward4624 5 ай бұрын

Then the PL becomes a farmers league because top players won play there

@DaedricRiggs 5 ай бұрын

It would literally defeat the object 😂😂😂

@lil-g4879 5 ай бұрын

So Simon, instead of FFP, why not just have a wage cap for all clubs. No one is suggesting no rules, but you cannot have a situation where 6 clubs have locked the door behind them.

@KMV007 5 ай бұрын

If a dispensation would be put in place for new owners, we will have all the current owners “selling” the clubs to their cousins, brothers etc. literary every year. Expensive layers will always find a workaround, look at Chelsea.

@SLM3573 5 ай бұрын

Jordan is right wages is whats killing football, the new norm for good players is over 200k a week thats close to a million a month when you add in bonuses its not sustainable for any team not playing champions league football hence the mad scramble for top 4. there needs to be some sort of wages to turnover cap for teams because if its not under control how many years to we have our first 1million a week footballer.

@timdurgan 5 ай бұрын

Just do it anyway, rack up 115 charges and worry about it after multiple PL titles and CL trophy. That's the precedent PL have allowed

@rjw4762 5 ай бұрын

I've had no time for FFP ever since my club was put under Transfer Embargo 10 years ago for spending TWICE its Income. The annoyance came because a club that got Promotion to the PL that season - BOURNEMOUTH - spent THREE times its income. They received no sanction. Which is more reckless - spending twice or spending three times one's Income ?

@briancuthbert4508 5 ай бұрын

I tell you what Simon Jordan really knows what he’s talking about. Hard to believe some of these big clubs don’t want him as a director of football or ceo??

@frasierfreak92 5 ай бұрын

People keep saying FFP is to protect the top clubs, and maybe it is to some degree, but you absolutely can grow your club to a standard where you don’t need to worry. Liverpool trebled their revenues in four years despite little investment from our owners. We bought and sold well, finished Top 4 regularly and grew commercially. Brighton have increased their revenues by buying and selling well, and they’re a consistent Top 8 team now. Considering 8th will probably get European football this season and the revenue it brings, there’s no excuse not to take advantage. Yeah, it might take a few years, but so what? Newcastle spent heavily the last two seasons, they haven’t kicked on because Eddie Howe has run players into the ground and teams have worked them out, fairly simple. Why are Newcastle entitled to spend way more just because their owners are rich? Every club, even United, have grown to get where they are over time. United aren’t a behemoth without Fergie winning stuff with his academy kids and sensible investment in the 90s and 2000s. United are actually worse now that they can spend whatever they want!

@swanneck 5 ай бұрын

Simon is rarely wrong with his idea here. The Saudis would just exchange the business between their sons and back to them every 3 years. Thus benefiting from the double allowance as in all it's guises would be "New ownership" , so easy to get around that I am surprised Simon suggested such a half baked stupid idea.

@dannytallmage2971 5 ай бұрын

lol Jim was probably hilarious when he was younger. “A rule you just made up in the last 30 seconds.” Even funnier because he’s heard Simon explain this rule like ten times.

@Haakonisak 5 ай бұрын

Will propably be ok for PL until Everton ask for the same after the takeover.

@WaniZame 5 ай бұрын

I genuinely don’t know if Jim is playing stupid on purpose or is actually just thick. Simon is spitting straight facts.

@richardroberts7633 5 ай бұрын

Thumbnail picture Amanda Staveley looks like the cat in a hat

@David-rh6zg 5 ай бұрын

Naval gazing .., FFS price that into your thinking 😀😀😀😀

@patwhelan2781 5 ай бұрын

I don't get the over egged football rules these days. Space between opposition is offside. Deliberate handball or a foul. Is a free kick. Otherwise play! Cheating players need immediate red cards. And a 3rd card needs to be introduced because there are more than 2 levels if foul play. Ie dissent/ kicking the ball away. Green card for me 2 greens =yellow

@truthoverlies1820 5 ай бұрын

Let me guess..he says no cos hes envious as hell over Amanda Staveley etc. He would've loved to be able to spend billions at Palace

@mephisto40 5 ай бұрын

It's never been sustainable

@darrengrimmer8541 5 ай бұрын

I just don’t understand the whole FFP thing.. Newcastle by the fact of their owners are as rich as any club in the world.. however they can’t just spend spend spend.. why then are Chelsea and Man City able to spend however much money they like

@russellward4624 5 ай бұрын

Because they generate way more money than Newcastle.

@archivalhorror 5 ай бұрын

@@russellward4624 Only because they've had years of being owned by billionaires with far less restrictions, which allowed them to build a network of adoring plastics from overseas. Before that, clubs like Chelsea and Man City weren't anything major and wouldn't be bringing that money in. So in essence those clubs have been allowed to inflate their revenue and FFP protects that status quo. In other words, Newcastle or any other team will be prevented from doing the same under current FFP, despite having the capability. Let's not act like those few clubs earn all of that money by divine right. Saying "because they make more revenue" isn't exactly an honest appraisal of the situation, is it?

@russellward4624 5 ай бұрын

@archivalhorror every argument you've made can be made about lfc, utd and company. The only reason they're relevant is because they had more money than everyone else for years with no restrictions. What does it matter if Chelsea or city "weren't anything major"? Are you saying only teams that were succeful recently have the right to be successful forever?

@sandhurstwolves3956 5 ай бұрын

Im all for FFP otherwise owners like Newcastle would just buy everybody with their bottomless wealth. All good for them but no one else

@kofigeorge1156 5 ай бұрын

u lower salary on books and pay them with sponsorship from your other companies you hold majority ownership in

@anon7503 5 ай бұрын

FFP is great. Who wants to watch Man City and Newcastle buy every good player in europe and fight it out amongst themselves to see who gets to win the league every year? Nobpdy would bother watching the PL anymore. If you've got extra money you cant waste on players then spend it on infrastructure and youth academies and create your own world class talents instead of buying everyone elses.

@Justlookin958 5 ай бұрын

Yeah its much better the way it currently is, watching Man City win the PL every year.

@anon7503 5 ай бұрын

@ScottyGsFoodbankFridge City had to cheat like hell and break FFP 115 times to get where they are. If FFP was properly enforced the league would have a lot more parity.

@WaniZame 5 ай бұрын

Mbappe wouldn’t go near Newcastle even without FFP. What a deluded point of view.

@rothwellcoe 5 ай бұрын

The rules should be changed. FFP is anti competitive

@1574john 5 ай бұрын

FFP is a scam. It’s the established “Top clubs” strangling their rivals. It’s the brass ring.

@RudgeDailyNews 5 ай бұрын

FFP was bought in to keep the top 6 the top 6 end of.

@dannytallmage2971 5 ай бұрын

With consistent investment Newcastle can easily make it a top 7 in three of four years. I heard none of this whining from Newcastle fans last year.

@RudgeDailyNews 5 ай бұрын

@@dannytallmage2971 city Chelsea united etc had a head start for Newcastle they can’t spend 350 million like Chelsea did when they got bought out.

@dannytallmage2971 5 ай бұрын

@@RudgeDailyNews ok boo hoo. Newcastle is certainly spending more than west ham villa and Brighton. What happened?

@marktony9737 5 ай бұрын

Should they not FFP in the retail industry?

@scottmatthews5650 5 ай бұрын

FFP is broken it’s as simple as that, nothing fair about it

@MrBatchy123 5 ай бұрын

What you are seeing in France, Italy and Spain with their leagues dying and clubs have no money. But now our country want us to spend out the window just cause their clubs are owned by a state. Its pathetic. Run your club properly

@Tarek_ElMaddah 5 ай бұрын

Simon is just on a different level than the others 😂

@petersmitgary 5 ай бұрын

Cannot stress enough to state perpetually about Manchester United should never engage with the fans and extricate from their opinions of how to run the club, because more than 99% of the fanbase aren't qualified to work in the Sunday League, especially the professional fans who decided to support Manchester United for the living on the internet.

@hibrahim9252 5 ай бұрын

FFP RUINED EXCITEMENT OF JANUARY SIGNINGS.

@rockybalboap7763 5 ай бұрын

id rather have a wage cap and selling fee than this stupid FFP !!!

@Tarek_ElMaddah 5 ай бұрын

FFP was introduced so there’s no another Portsmouth or Rangers.

@1marki 5 ай бұрын

The one problem with Simon’s argument is that every 3 years, clubs will be passed from family member to family member.

@patrickkelly3617 5 ай бұрын

What would stop a club from changing it 'owners' every 3 years to get the double loss of FFP.. We've seen club's under the same ownership move players according to there value on the books in Saudi Arabia, these kind of onwers could easily create a new 'ownership' model to take advantage

@ifldiscovery8500 5 ай бұрын

what you implying cannot happen. Player evalution is not a random number people pluck out of this air it's based on stats.

@patrickkelly3617 5 ай бұрын

@@ifldiscovery8500 have you watched any of the transfers in the last year?