Why do TS bring on an actual expert on the subject and have Jim interrupt at every opportunity and Simon try to pretend he knows more than the expert? Simon thinks because he was once in a court, it makes him the expert. It’s like me getting a speeding ticket and thinking it makes me Lewis Hamilton. You bring the expert on…let him speak and give his learned opinion on the subject.

Simon is very argumentative even when he isn't in an argument. Just let the bloke speak without butting in.

He correctly said "objective" and Simon still felt the need to claim he said "subjective". I heard that I'm sitting behind a laptop in another country...

Glad to see these comments actually wanting to listen to this guy.. and not Jim and Simon interrupting.

Would of been nice if Jordan let him actually finish a sentence.

If Simon stopped interupting he might learn something. More importantly, so might I.

Simon is spending every ounce of his energy to appear smarter than this guy, instead of just chilling and listening.

Would’ve been nice to let the bloke talk without Simon interrupting him constantly

I don't know why the media hasn't better explained this to us regular fans. Forest/Everton have been charged with spending outside their means but they accept this but believe they have mitigating circumstances. City are being charged with fraud, which they dispute, which is a much more serious matter and adds up to 115 charges. That's 1 of the reasons it's taking so long to solve

He said objective - Simon’s desperation to assert his intelligence really lets himself down. He just looks like an arrogant, rude fool.

Well spoken..Simon is not neutral on this,he already assumes Man City are guilty…thats not right…

Well done on bringing on an informed guest then interrupting him non stop 👍

Simon out here embarrassing himself. He can't stand having someone more knowledgeable than himself

That headline is misleading - it’s not what the expert concluded at all

I love it when someone well informed who comes on this show and communicates in a measured way. Simon always seems to come across as an angry confrontational man, even if there's no need to be.

Bring in an expert, talk over him. Simon can’t bear to have someone on who’s got way more experience than him haha

He said 'Objective' first time around

Miss leading headline as usual, he said that could be the punishment if found guilty, but he believes they will be cleared of all charges

Simon the guy who nearly bankrupted Crystal Palace on his own,now a presenter on a radio show who loves his own voice and I don’t think he’s the person to give out financial advice considering his past record

I really want to know the opinions of Cundy and O'hara on the legal situation swirling around Man City. I'm sure they have some valuable insights the lesser minds might have missed.

Simon gets a bit tetchy when he has people more educated or richer than him in the same room, doesn’t he. See this guy for more education and Hearn for richer.

I wish Simon would let people speak without interrupting them every 20 seconds

Would have been good to actually hear what the financial advisor had to say! Without the interruptions.

3:14 "Somebody's that objective" 3:26 "You said subjective". Simon is actually mental ...

I like your opinion Simon but stop the sniping from the sideline when others are talking

Football fans aren't financial experts. Stefan knows about it. Suggest people listen and understand rather than just say strip titles etc. There is a legal process to go through and the burden of proof is huge.

Stefan knows what he is talking about. Back when the usual football journalists were reporting that UEFA had a slam dunk case to take to CAS, Stefan proved the opposite. These 'journalists' (Miguel Delaney, The Sporting Intelligence guy et al.) laughed him off when he went into detail about the flimsy nature of UEFA's case. He was proven right. Everton fans and journos told him he was wrong. Again, he was right. He will be right about Chelsea too - unless Chelsea pull a rabbit out of the hat.

For a student of law premier League in this case the fa better have some level of proof for the level of accusations. This is not a case of everton overspending, this is a case of inflated sponsorship. This literally means you are accusing someone who runs some reputed firm of lying about actual figures. If you don't come up with legal proofs or if the independent commission comes out with a wrong assessment, i see city dragging it to the supreme court. Nobody in business will want their image tarnished for some agenda. In all i hope the hearing is fair and clean, otherwise if it's not but driven by other motives fa will be screwed. They better get it right the first time because if any court later on proves city's innocence the amount of penalty someone has to pay for dragging one's name to the mud is hefty. Moreover it's the image of the body which will be tarnished once and for all. They better have substantial proofs. Any malicious intent will do the opposite.

They might get relegated, but not in our lifetime..

Simon Jordan could start an argument in an empty room lmao, guy loves his own voice 😅

Well done Stefan. A calm and balanced opinion not like the smug and childish Simon Jordan. MCFC OK

I think it's starting to dawn on people that Masters is a utd, liverpool and arsenal stooge and that FFP really is just designed to stop other clubs catching up to the old guard. "Can't have Everton and City investing to make themselves better can we"? The old Sky 4 really are terrified that someone will buy Leeds, Sunderland, Villa etc

What we have here shows you the problem that crops up with Simon a lot, he's in a conversation with someone who works in law and has worked in football finance(advisor) yet he still wants to come across as if he knows better(listen to the tone, his heavy breathing when he doesn't like what he's hearing... he's so petty). The only people remotely fooled by Simon's interruptions and desperation for the last say are those who want their pound of flesh regardless of whether the allegations are proven(they haven't been proven). He's always putting a dishonest spin on what happened at CAS. He likes to say UEFA found City guilty but leaves out the biggest takeaway from CAS was that they were told(13 instances) they didn't have the proof required to come to their verdicts of everything that wasn't time barred(this included most of the Etihad stuff and a few Etisalat claims). When someone is smart enough to pull him up on that he reverts to trying to inflate the importance of the tacked on non-cooperation charges, which ISN'T a major breach or a sign of guilt at all... As Stefan pointed out it's actually a normal legal tactic in complex cases. All the complaints about how good City's lawyers are and disingenuously dismissing the notion that they are acting on expert legal council for every action taken in response to this witch-hunt.

Simon been making some big claims about city, was like a mouse this interview. Did you notice they didn't say much on it after the interview, they dragged their heals to not talk about it. If the expert would have said he thinks city are guilty and yada yada talksport would have been waxing lyrical about it foe the next half hour. All Simon could say was the sport washing tosh again.

If you are going to bring an expert in, let him speak!

Simon can’t stand people knowing more than him 😅

Simon even needs to make up that the bloke said "subjective" when he obviously said objective so he could butt in and start arguing

What he actually said was if they are found guilty but he thought that outcome extremely unlikely and they would be cleared

Two people talking at the same time doesn't make the matter less complicated

Let the man speak he loves his own voice does simon

Simon and Jim keep jumping in to talk nonsense just let the expert speak about it . Simon thinks he knows everything and doesn’t ever say he’s wrong . Especially against city

Jordan embarrassed himself during this interview. It’s about time talkgarbage had someone on with some knowledge, just ashame Jordan’s ego won’t let him get a word in.

I think City's case is frivolous and vexatious on the part of the football authorities. As with all authority, football authorities have a similar grandiose view of their own importance and it's this that is at the root of the case. Basically, it seems to me, that City has looked at the rule book and found a way of complying with the rules whilst injecting huge sums of money into the club. This is only possible because the people behind City have these huge sums at their disposal so they've injected the money in a legitimate manner by setting up other enterprise organisations that can pass the money under the normal rules of business. Obviously the authorities have found out and are typically annoyed that there are people in charge at City who are smarter than them. This is exactly the same sentiment that leads finger-wagging judges to scold accused individuals for "breaking the spirit of the law" because they can't find them guilty of a crime because they actually didn't break the law i.e. they didn't break the letter of the law. This is how all authority works - they don't like when people are smarter than they are and they act in typical fashion by trying to contrive legitimate behaviour into criminality. I predict City will be acquitted and the football authorities will rewrite the rule book to stop them doing what they're doing. City will probably be expecting this and will likely be working on different methods to achieve the same goals whilst complying with the new rules. This is what all companies do when authorities introduce more and more regulation.

The shamelessness to bring on an expert, constantly interrupt him and twisting his words to gain traction is insane.

How about letting the man finish a sentence Mr i think i know it all . Simon is after explaining FFP about 15 different ways . 1 minute he says Newcastle can spend half a billion in a window and it wont breach FFP because of how Mike Ashley ran the club now where hearing there close to breching FFP without having spent not even close to what Simon said they could spend but Jim wouldnt dare remind him of that statement .

I’m not surprised Crystal Palace almost went bankrupt when Simon Jordan owned the club. He doesn’t listen to anyone, even those who know more than he does. 😂

Simon Jordan is an absolute tool. He thinks he knows everything about everything and that gives him the right to interrupt every single guest they have on.

Brilliant.Made a change from the usual smear campaign.Which was immediately in the news afterwards.

"Whether Simon likes it or not"!!!😂.... Simon the joker!😂

So you bring on an actual expert and then interrupt him every chance you get lol

Let the guy get his point across! Just constantly interrupting the man

City living in Simon’s head RENT FREE-Priceless.. 😂😂😂

Just get on with it, if we are proven guilty then so be it, we will still turn up in our droves no matter what. City till I die.

My goodness let the man speak

Aside the fact that they have already got through this in two separate courts. No chance of anything coming of this. Comment sections seem to have over looked the fact that they might be innocent??

Long term subscriber to the 93:20 pod. If only all football “experts” talked with such sense

Why should MC cooperate with UEFA and PL when they got information with hacked emails. They are not obliged to cooperate . It’s onus to PL to prove those hacked emails are true in reality. Bring the proof if you have.

What is wrong with Simon Jordan? It’s bizarre he seems to be taking Man City’s allegations so seriously? How does it affect his life? Very perculiar.

Sounds like we are good 🙌....I think Simon the little Englander might have a problem with where our owners are from.

when there is a chance of Man City being in trouble, Simon gets very excitied, he hopes that Man city will be relgated.

Simon thinks he’s a lawyer now and an expert on litigation hilarious, shaking his head because he didn’t like what he was hearing, showing his anti city bias as usual. So now we know what it’s taking so long and why the date can’t be announced maybe the morons is this world will calm down and get their tissues ready

Jorden making an absolute tit of himself talking to someone who actually does have some knowledge/intelligence, love it! I know what you know because I was in court once. 🤣

Simon's ego suffering when there's a smarter and well in-tuned guest in the room.

Listen to the full video and then look at the headline. Then tell me the media don't have it in for city

Simon should not have interrupted him. Stefan was telling the truth when he said he was going to be as subjective as possible.

Great to see that their are so many people on this thread who see the real picture here not just the "white van man" foam at the mouth types talksport are aiming for with their clickbait video title.

Plot twist. Man City aren't guilty. Listen to the lawyers.

Very simple, expert comes on and knows what he is talking about. Simon suddenly realises he is not the most knowledgeable in the room / radio station interupts and pulls faces. Pathetic from Jordan.

Near impossible to prove the charges! Thank you Stefan 👏🏻

I think Simon Jordon is half man half goat, cos he’s always butting in

Does Simon let anyone finish their sentence?

It happens, Glasgow Rangers FC.

Simon is once again either wrong or ignorant. CAS had the information. They admonished City for not giving it to UEFA but CAS got everything. City simply didn't trust UEFA to be fair and paid £9m to stick our fingers up at UEFA. If you read the CAS report, it is clear that CAS had access to the transactional level of data and also interviewed many of the people involved. Simon's trying to paint a picture that CAS essentially ruled with no evidence before them and that is manifestly untrue.

FA haven’t thought all this through !

Very intriguing and well explained

Wow , more people in the comments who have dazzling insight and knowledge into this case and also an advanced experience and knowledge of football finances at the top level.

So as anybody with a brain knows and was the case at CAS. They will not be proven guilty of the substantial charges, will get a fine for not cooperating and maybe some points deducted but as for relegations and 50 points and the nonesense spouted by some of the Dullards on this thread. It's how it will play out. Simples....

The difference between the Man City case and Everton/Nottingham Forest is one of realpolitik vs basic accounting maths. Man City more than likely fail the basic accounting maths test (as the other 2 clubs have been found to have failed) - but whether they will be held to account depends on whether the Premier League can bring home those charges as well as charges of fraud against, among others, very senior members of a foreign government. This will end in high level litigation where there will be endless argument on everything other than the core issue of monies coming in and going out.

Lawyers view in short.... The charges are massive... If proven would result in relegation... But the quasi-court of the PL won't be able to make the allegations stick as too big... Oh.... And Simon should stick to football!

This will drag on for a long time and will end in some out of court/tribunal fine that will at least give the premier league some sort of face saving. The burden of trying to prove the allegations and the amount of people companies executives they would have to put in the dock suggests this won’t go any further as it’s nigh on impossible and could result in various slander cases. What will probably happen is some sort of rule change in transparency of commercial and sponsorship deals going forward but ultimately City will walk free of near all charges

City refused to cooperate on the emails because it was ruled by a Portuguese court that they should not be used in a court. However Uefa's case was held in Swiss rules and Cas determined that under Swiss law the evidence could be used. They also decided the evidence was deliberately misleading.

Sounds dodgy as hell, inflating the sponsorship from a company that is also owned by the same owner was just an effort to circumvent the FFP rules, but like Stefan said, it's going to be difficult to prove conspiracy. Sounds like the Prem need to close that loophole so that there are no conflicts of interest from sponsors, directly OR indirectly, if that hasn't already been done.

I am sure Jim White has personal issues with Man City. Simon actually shut him last he spoke about this situation. Man United has fallen.

To summarise the allegations are of such a serious nature. The premier league have very much bitten off more than they can chew, it will be extremely difficult to prove against city and an outfit like the premier league don’t have the wherewithal to bring this to a satisfactory conclusion in their favour.

If they are found guilty they have a right to appeal which doesn't fall under the current FFP regs, These charges are pre 2023, The appeal process could last years, Nothing will happen to City in the near future.

Sounds like what he's saying is the accusations are so serious they would be difficult to prove.

Charges need to come to fruition this season before Masters changes the rules next season. I still think that City will get “A get out of jail card”. If the charges aren’t enforced this season.

Top six can spin out with top financiers and lawyers for years - bring City and Chelsea to finalisation now - 2 sets of rules ? As forest fan I accept we did bend rules by hanging onto jonno but we were building side and looking at loss of 20M by letting jonno go to Brentford - cmon powers to be taking piss ( or backhander)

Great to have finance experts on

The last two minutes (when he was actually allowed to speak) were priceless😂 You could see the colour draining out of Simon's face by the second😅

The best thing is if even 1 charge is proven guilty there titles mean nothing😊😊😊😊

The UEFA charges against City had to be dropped because they were deemed to be too long ago to be punishable and the same will probably happen with the Premier League charges.....basically get away with it on a complete fudge!

3:23 he said objective, there was no need to interrupt whilst sitting with a smirk on your face.

City do not need to clear their name. The onus is for the PL to prove beyond reasonable doubt that such a fraud took place. That will mean a very high level of proof.

In short, they'll get off scot-free from all allegations as there's no way to prove any inconclusively. What a huge surprise, not!

Have this guy in more. His insight into finances is great.

We finally get a real expert on the show but Simon still feels the need to constantly butt in. Why can't people see that this is all planned, order out of chaos, to make way for the super league.

Jack Grealish's hair band doesn't sweat this in the least.

Jims head was spinning that whole segment! Didn’t even know where to put his glasses

This guy is truly an xpert, premier league will not be able to prove anything there