A jig for building beehive frames that is simple to use and easy to make.
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@RyanMcDonnough Жыл бұрын
I’m surprised that you don’t put a staple through each of the end bars to prevent the top bar from separating
@bobbinnie9872 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I've been waiting for this comment and should have addressed it in the video. I used to do that but with the amount of glue we now use it doesn't seem necessary. We have very little trouble. I would definitely do it if we weren't using good glue.
@RyanMcDonnough Жыл бұрын
@@bobbinnie9872 Thanks, Bob! I don’t necessarily think it’s required for honey super frames. But, personally, I do it on deep frames for brood boxes. Having a frame fall apart on me is not something that I want to experience again.
@chrisallen8631 Жыл бұрын
Lol there’s always someone who knows how to do it better than the guy who’s been doing it 40years and runs a million pound business 🤣 Bob you’re the man 👍 English beekeeper, pretty much learnt everything from your videos when I started up 2 years ago, cheers mate.
@RyanMcDonnough Жыл бұрын
@@chrisallen8631 That’s a pretty rude comment, Chris. 👎🏻👎🏻 Never did I say that I “know how to do it better” than Bob. Not at all. I posted a comment, Bob *pinned my comment*, and I merely said that I feel better having extra peace of mind from stapling the side bars to the top bar. That’s all. Have a lovely day.
@chrisallen8631 Жыл бұрын
@@RyanMcDonnough hi mate, sorry must have misinterpreted your meaning, can’t have people questioning the guru 😜
@babybeeapiaries8667 Жыл бұрын
Don't lose Jesse, seems like he does all the jobs nobody else wants to do. Great employee from what I've seen in your videos.
@bobbinnie9872 Жыл бұрын
The best!
@katiewebber760 Жыл бұрын
Am i the only person who yelled, “what part of this is supposed to be E-Z?!” While assembling? Thank you SO much for the video!
@ThatBeeMan Жыл бұрын
Same stuff happening here these days. As you mention, so many different ways. I do use the more rigid Ritecell. We install the bottom bars first then install the foundation as we install the top bar. A little less difficult, especially on mediums. I've found that for me, the time is the same even though it seems to take longer, the jig produces a finished frame. I also have a different method of glue application that I feel is way faster but it might not work for everyone. I can't explain it, it's shown in my videos though. Thanks again, Bob!
@TennesseeTim38451 Жыл бұрын
I’m the same way about my glue! I was a plumber in another lifetime and the apprenticeship taught us “glue is cheap, compared to leaks!” But wood glue needs to be heavy handed! Another great video Bob!
@lvbees6128 Жыл бұрын
Prior to putting the side bars into the jig hold an aligned stack of 10 in your hand and add glue to all of them at once. I use a disposable 1/4 brush to spread the glue evenly. Then add them to the jig. There will be less glue running down the sides of the bars as well. I actually add glue to the bottoms of the bars also while holding them but you have to work fast to get them assembled before the glue starts to dry up.
@fredshoney6458 Жыл бұрын
That's a great tip! Wish I had thought of that. I make sure that there is glue on what will be the vertical surfaces of the joints since these are what provide the most shear strength when manipulating the frames during inspections. Like in this video I often see people just putting glue on what will be the horizontal part of the finished joint which provides the least strength of the joint since this is subjected to tensioned strength.
@lvbees6128 Жыл бұрын
@@fredshoney6458 - absolutely correct. The little brush can spread the glue to the verticals so all three surfaces have a good amount of glue. I also collect aligned top bars and apply glue just to the side notches prior to installing them so both vertical surfaces get glue. I’m certain Bob would approve of the amount of glue that squeezes out when I push the bar into the frame end pieces, 😂.
@lastphcm Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the “rouge staple” tip. I always learn something new on you videos!
@rickeyjohnson8476 Жыл бұрын
Great video; love the relationship between employer and employee exhibited. Looks like a great place to work
@bobbinnie9872 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. We're lucky to have our current crew.
@dennisbarney869 Жыл бұрын
Great video Need to build me a jig I have been swapping out plastic foundation with wood. Also going to start making my own frames I'm in need of about 50 super frames and 40 brood frame. Great to see Seth moving on up-- I wish you and him well.
@bobbinnie9872 Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@MinnesotaBeekeeper Жыл бұрын
Love the blue coiled air hose.
@dadu63 Жыл бұрын
I bought some of these from ya last year and they all going in hives this year. Thanks again Bob and Jesse. Great video!
@scrotiemcboogerballs1981 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing I watched a video from on KZfaq a guy built a hive he called the bee barn it was made to help him in colder climates looks like a great idea and it was working really good for him
@barkersbees Жыл бұрын
From northern utah here and I’ve done these and I think they work good!
@luci75d76 Жыл бұрын
Big operations there ! Well done Bob
@daverowden-RowdyBeeFarms Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Frame building has been completed during the off season.
@rickwarner516 Жыл бұрын
Thank Bob and thank you Jessie
@keithfaithful3989 Жыл бұрын
You have obviously hired all the best people, to bad for your competition.
@bobbinnie9872 Жыл бұрын
We've been lucky to get the folks we have.
@hootervillehoneybees8664 Жыл бұрын
Phil the bee man has pretty cool frame nailer shoots all the staples needed by a foot pedal at the same time.. he gets his grandkids on it pumps them out in 10k batches
@timmorris47359 ай бұрын
You are lucky to have such great employees
@bobbinnie98729 ай бұрын
Totally agree!
@reedjasonf Жыл бұрын
I like the idea of the wedges to keep the side bars tight in the jig. But if I was doing the glue that precisely I'd go nuts making hundreds of frames. I just run a single bead of glue down the whole side. It's messy but I wipe the frame and save the time.
@CCCRApiary Жыл бұрын
I recently made a 20 frame jig, makes things go a lot faster.
@marknotley8206 Жыл бұрын
Hi Bob, a video that shows how you repair frames in the field would be good.
@donbearden1953 Жыл бұрын
Yep, thats the way I do it but my jig holds 10 and its a little different. I definitely like the consistency of Titebond II better for frames.
@kat2641 Жыл бұрын
❤ it’s a toss up but the cost is close but 🤷🏻♂️ winter time it’s snowing outside an COLD an the woodshop is heated an with coffee pot an TV an a recliner, just in case, the old man needs a power nap😂😂😂😂
@calebhollen5316 Жыл бұрын
I also staple the foundation to the frame. Top and bottom
@graemediesel293624 күн бұрын
Nice jig. I wonder if it would be faster to place the foundation before putting on the frame bottoms?
@bobbinnie987224 күн бұрын
Some people do that, and like it, but we like installing the foundation after the frame is built.
@michaelposner3994 Жыл бұрын
Suggestion, put glue on top bars not side bars, by laying next to each other so groves form long channel. lay a long bead in grove and spread with acid flux brush. End grain to side grain provides no strength.
@frogsurfer4403 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing; face grain to face grain makes the strongest glued joint. I also drive my staple in through the side bar, and add the plastic foundation during the assembly process not after. Thanks as always for sharing the knowledge Bob!
@dougpeterson5257 Жыл бұрын
I think I'm convinced that I need to glue my frames and skip the staple under the end bars. Over the years I haven't had lots of frames come apart but it can happen at bad times.
@honeyandthecoop803 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff!
@BrianJaggers64211 ай бұрын
He makes that look easy!😂
@ChhetMotTV Жыл бұрын
Good job ,sir
@burleybeeyard Жыл бұрын
I’m the rogue staple king 😂
@linr2870 Жыл бұрын
Great information, do you have the specs on the jig box? How to make one, I am in US and imperial system would be helpful. Thank you
@bobbinnie9872 Жыл бұрын
The inside dimensions of the jigs we're currently using are 17-7/8 inches for the frame length (end bar to end bar) and 16-7/8 for box width.
@linr2870 Жыл бұрын
@@bobbinnie9872 Thank you!
@richard3951 Жыл бұрын
Hi bob, as always super informative. Are you going to Chile to the Apimondia trade show? we will be going as a group from Costa Rica. Would be great to be able to say hello. big fan of all your videos . super appreciate all the info you share.
@bobbinnie9872 Жыл бұрын
I would love to go but will not be able to. Someday perhaps I'll make it one.
@user-qz7cj6ub1n Жыл бұрын
СПАСИБО THANKS
@micsonicman Жыл бұрын
Agree the Mann Lake foundation can be a bear to get in the frame. Frustrating when you have a couple hundred to do every season.
@bobbinnie9872 Жыл бұрын
Shallows are the worst!
@lambbrookfarm4528 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing the knowledge. Does anyone make plastic drone foundation for inserting into wood frames?
@bobbinnie9872 Жыл бұрын
There could be some but I'm not familiar with any.
@lambbrookfarm4528 Жыл бұрын
@@bobbinnie9872 thanks Bob
@lenturtle79549 ай бұрын
There are Green plastic drone frames with comb . The best part is to can open your hive and you easily know which frames are the drone comb
@lambbrookfarm45289 ай бұрын
@@lenturtle7954 I'm more interested in just the foundation as I would be cutting it to fit Layens frames.
@sgiza30 Жыл бұрын
Do you have dimensions for the frame box.
@beskidzywieckipasieka9652 Жыл бұрын
👏👏👍🏻
@WildwoodsBeekeeping Жыл бұрын
Good Video Bob, What Jig are you Using and where did you get it, Or did you Build it? Good stuff Bob! Looks good!
@bobbinnie9872 Жыл бұрын
We built it out of scrape plywood. Thanks.
@rodrigogabrecht7945 Жыл бұрын
👍🤗
@cliveharrison733 Жыл бұрын
Always good tips Bob thank you, does your foundation come pre waxed or do you add that yourselves ?
@bobbinnie9872 Жыл бұрын
We get pre-waxed. On occasion we will add wax to frames that were in a colony for a while but didn't get drawn out because the bees will strip the wax off.
@oscarvilla6841 Жыл бұрын
👍 Thank you
@bobbinnie9872 Жыл бұрын
Hi Oscar. The crew is asking about you.
@oscarvilla6841 Жыл бұрын
😀 see you in couple weeks
@mocarp1 Жыл бұрын
Bob, which amount of wax coating do you recommend for the Premier foundation, if the beekeeper rolls on another fresh coat before putting them in the hive?
@bobbinnie9872 Жыл бұрын
If I was applying wax I wouldn't pay extra for pre-waxed.
@SevenIsaCannibal7 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious, Bob. With how many frames you make yourselves, roughly how many old frames do you retire in a year and how do you decide that they're no longer worth using?
@bobbinnie9872 Жыл бұрын
We rarely throw frames away because we sell so many nucs and colonies that our frames are continuously being cycled out and replaced. But if one was to slip through I would throw it away once it begins to feel heavier than normal and begins to look very dark. This would normally take around ten to twelve years.
@randallcarter-carterhillho2277 Жыл бұрын
I noticed none of the staples are shot in horizontally. I assume you do this in the most efficient way that works and you have tried several ways of assembly and length of staples too. Do you have many issues with frames coming apart in the beeyard with no staples shot in horizontally? Thank you.
@bobbinnie9872 Жыл бұрын
With the amount of glue that we use there are very few issues.
@rajalebahacehbesar4505 Жыл бұрын
mantap
@ot7093 Жыл бұрын
Hi Bob hope you are well! What's your view on the Nicot queen rearing system?
@bobbinnie9872 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, I've not used one so couldn't give an informed opinion.
@barstat1002 Жыл бұрын
Bob - love your channel from Australia. Do you ever use plastic frames or aren't they viable in the US?
@reedjasonf Жыл бұрын
Plastic frames are nice because you can be rough with them. Throw them in the truck and such. But the also have grooves where SHB like to run and hide where the bees can't get them. I like using the plastic foundation with wood frames for the honey supers. Best of both worlds and no blowout in my extractor.
@gary5172 Жыл бұрын
@@reedjasonf If you have a small yard-20 or less-you could fill those grooves with wood glue or glue gun or whatever you can think of that might work.
@reedjasonf Жыл бұрын
@@gary5172 that's true. I still prefer wood frames with plastic foundation. I've also settled on wax-wire foundation for the brood nest. It seems more natural and I don't have to worry about blowouts on those frames anyway since I don't extract them. With new hives I really want them to draw out the brood nest comb quickly before winter (Michigan) and we usually have just barely enough time for that. If it is a bumper year and they can draw out a honey super, great but usually honey supers get drawn out the following year.
@barstat1002 Жыл бұрын
@@reedjasonf interesting. We have new plastic frames now to limit SHB. but it was an issue here previously. I'm with you around wood frames and plastic foundation - its the sweet spot for me.
@bobbinnie9872 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I am OK with using a few plastic frames but I don't like large numbers of them in my boxes. Things I like about them is that they are less expensive, they're immediately ready to use and they are tougher when prying things apart (end bars don't split). Things I don't like is that if one is above another (upper and lower box) more burr comb will occur between them than wooden frames, there are lots of places for hive beetles to hang out and if a top bar ear breaks off they are not easily repaired. All that having been said I definitely prefer wooden frames with plastic foundation but will probably be using a few plastic frames this year.
@dmitrysemakin8766 Жыл бұрын
Hello Bob. Please write the sizes of all parts of your frames and hives. Thanks for the first time.
@OklahomaBeekeeper Жыл бұрын
Totally off subject, but may I ask what brand of coveralls do you wear?
@bobbinnie9872 Жыл бұрын
I can't get them anymore. They were sold by The Walter T Kelly Co. (Kelly Bees) before Mann Lake bought them out. They're 100% cotton. I guess I'll have to find another brand when the ones I have now wear out.
@OklahomaBeekeeper Жыл бұрын
@@bobbinnie9872 thank you very much for your time and I do appreciate it very much.
@gburchett1 Жыл бұрын
What is the size of the staples you use?
@bobbinnie9872 Жыл бұрын
1/4 inch crown by 1-1/2 long.
@gburchett1 Жыл бұрын
@@bobbinnie9872 thank you
@ThatTanWillys Жыл бұрын
Genius. That's my least favorite chore in beekeeping
@Shawn-gt5dhАй бұрын
I ordered a lot of frames and beehives stuff from main lakes. I'll never buy from main lake again while do. My stuff came in moldy and they're trying to tell me that it was a stain. I used which the mold was on there before. I even touched a stain. The mold was so deep. It took a long time to get the mold out with the bleach. There's nothing but light in me. So I boycott man lakes.