Simple Methods To Fix Your Aero (No CFD, No Wind Tunnel)

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B Sport

B Sport

2 жыл бұрын

Let's have a closer look at the team "Tuning Akademie" that I have been working in and check how we fixed our Aero Issues with little budget and simple methods.
How did we reduce drag and increased downforce at the same time?
How did we solve the cooling issues?
Which methods did we use to succeed?
Let me know if the video helped you and what other questions you have about race car aerodynamics!
Pictures:
Tuning Akademie
#Nurburgring #N24 #Aerodynamics

Пікірлер: 67
@swagon2027
@swagon2027 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video! An engineer's dream to fix problems simply with knowledge of flow physics and good judgement, rather than relying on sophisticated tools.
@stickman-1
@stickman-1 Жыл бұрын
Wow. Really a good video. You have more actionable info in 8 minutes than most videos have in an hour. I very much appreciate all of it.
@BSport320
@BSport320 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
@alloy299
@alloy299 Жыл бұрын
The over-surface NACA duct problem seems so evident in hindsight, yet must require experience to detect. Thanks a lot for sharing.
@krisnestorurian9127
@krisnestorurian9127 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for showing aerodynamics practically
@BSport320
@BSport320 8 ай бұрын
You are welcome!
@WWMike12
@WWMike12 2 жыл бұрын
I'm upset at this channel- because you don't post enough! MOORRRE! MORE!
@e36s50b30
@e36s50b30 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Very informative content! I would love to see more on aerodynamic topics, such as optimal brake cooling, diffuser lenghts and angles, wheel arch venting etc. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
@BSport320
@BSport320 2 жыл бұрын
More to come!
@akautosport
@akautosport Жыл бұрын
What an awesome video. Thank you. One thing I would like to know more about is relieving fender pressure.
@HoaPham-zs1mh
@HoaPham-zs1mh 2 ай бұрын
Wow didn't expect practical and applicable tips on aero, best video ever
@sinusmagnus2015
@sinusmagnus2015 2 жыл бұрын
I would be interested in a video on how analyse flow vis and cotton threads please ! Very interesting video
@draza3083
@draza3083 6 ай бұрын
My favorite video on aero. Hands down.
@BSport320
@BSport320 6 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@konstantinmoraglis5300
@konstantinmoraglis5300 9 ай бұрын
Very informative, congrats for the performance Thank you
@xcandiottix
@xcandiottix 8 ай бұрын
This is the most informative video I've watched all year. I autocross a TT in a prepared category and some of these ideas are brilliant for my use case as well. Thank you for posting!
@BSport320
@BSport320 8 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@panacelium
@panacelium 2 ай бұрын
Great work! I now want to improve the aerodynamics of my vw scirocco 3 to reduce drag. I have 2 ideas 1) Use the factory air intakes located on the sides of the front bumper and make air outlet holes in the wheel fender 2) Make a grille in the skirt of the rear bumper so that the air from it goes directly into the low-pressure zone behind the car, thereby reducing it. If you can give me some advice, then I would be happy!
@BSport320
@BSport320 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! You can contact me via email to arrange a call.
@panacelium
@panacelium Ай бұрын
@@BSport320 Where I can find your email?
@ady8817
@ady8817 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video!
@bradwavemb
@bradwavemb 2 жыл бұрын
Such a wonderful video!
@camerone397
@camerone397 Жыл бұрын
very informative video. goes to show that all the fancy software and analysis won't do you any good without fundamental knowledge and the ability to test empirically and improve based on that. I'm not in the full time workforce yet but that's definitely something my school's Formula SAE team could stand to learn from...
@shadowwsk3507
@shadowwsk3507 2 жыл бұрын
Simply fascinating to see, i always learned something here!
@adityasingh-hf4zc
@adityasingh-hf4zc 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, please keep making such videos, it really helps a lot.
@Sturmovik1946
@Sturmovik1946 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, some very neat info on budget racing.
@rocketman99
@rocketman99 2 жыл бұрын
Great example of aero done right
@FormulaFrancois
@FormulaFrancois 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Thanks for sharing some of your real world examples. Really enjoyed this.
@jasonwishart6800
@jasonwishart6800 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Simple explanations of the problem solving approach.
@gafrers
@gafrers 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video, very interesting. One of your best
@BSport320
@BSport320 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@crowntug
@crowntug Жыл бұрын
Super insightful and interesting!
@BSport320
@BSport320 Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@alenseven11
@alenseven11 8 ай бұрын
What an amazing chanel you've created! Bravo! 👏 So much knowledge and useful information is very hard to find, and to be so understandable and dense. You're an amazing engineer! This is so interesting, to me at least, I can't believe I didn't find your videos earlier.
@BSport320
@BSport320 8 ай бұрын
Welcome!
@288gto7
@288gto7 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice video 👍
@mymohdazrul
@mymohdazrul 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for infos
@cbongphd
@cbongphd Жыл бұрын
Must have been a lot of fun albeit a lot of hard work to work on this project.
@alexanderklenk2195
@alexanderklenk2195 2 жыл бұрын
Does the effect of gravity on the flow-vis ever cause issues? Or are the aero effects always much more significant?
@BSport320
@BSport320 2 жыл бұрын
I mean once you sprayed it on the car, it should really start driving, overwise it will dry while the flow viz is running down. Same goes for hot surfaces (bonnet etc.) It will be dry before the car starts driving. But as soon as you are driving the flow effect is more significant than gravity.
@S.AlienLife
@S.AlienLife 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for insightful video’s!! Many engineers dream of being in the hothouse of intense pressure of F1… you had (it seems, a relatively short) time in F1, and then left. So whats more challenging, being a high-focus specialised F1 engineer or being a freelance engineer with a high diversity of challenges & opportunities? Also, would you go back to F1 (or LMH/LMDh) if approached by a factory?
@BSport320
@BSport320 2 жыл бұрын
I've been in F1 for 3 years, which is normal looking at my work mates. 4-5 years is regarded as a long time in F1:) Anyway, I left because I wanted to start my own business and enjoy the freedom and variety of projects now more than being specialized on a particular area. Never say never but currently I am pretty happy being self-employed.
@petertimowreef9085
@petertimowreef9085 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video, good combination between theoretical knowledge and understandable practical applications. Why kind of engine were you guys running, why not the NA V8?
@BSport320
@BSport320 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! The NA V8 needed 3 times more fuel per lap which resulted in too many pit stops. The better choice for long endurance races was the V6 TDI.
@petertimowreef9085
@petertimowreef9085 2 жыл бұрын
@@BSport320 A diesel?! Interesting! Maybe you could do a video about how racing with a diesel engine is different from petrol? Just a random idea, I really appreciate that you take the time to answer my questions.
@coove3940
@coove3940 2 жыл бұрын
Are there any translations of those races, Would like to see the car on track and chant for your team)
@Jon.S
@Jon.S 2 жыл бұрын
Great Stuff. A question on the NACA ducts in the floor....you said they had a "step" which was preventing them working efficiently.....how big was this step? The pic you showed had them mounted externally to the floor, with the "lip" on the outside, so is that step (i.e. the 2-3mm or whatever the thickness of the plastic is) too small to be a problem?
@BSport320
@BSport320 2 жыл бұрын
The step was 2mm and separated the flow. We could see that with flow viz and at the diff temperatures. After removing the step in front of them, the NACA ducts worked fine.
@Jon.S
@Jon.S 2 жыл бұрын
@@BSport320 Hey, sorry to be a pain but I don't quite understand, do you mind if I email you to ask another couple of questions? Just really curious and surprised how much of a difference it made etc :)
@BSport320
@BSport320 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jon.S Sure, you can. But you could also ask questions here, it might be interesting for others too.
@flizndfor
@flizndfor 2 жыл бұрын
Cool. What was the difference in lap time? 😬
@BSport320
@BSport320 2 жыл бұрын
That's not easy to say because the video summarizes one year of updates and the conditions at the Nurburgring are different every time. But with aero updates + some software updates for the engine, we were able to reduce lap times from 10:10s to around 9:50s (25km VLN track)
@indopleaser
@indopleaser 2 жыл бұрын
question: are the old open top CanAm cars way better aero-wize? less frontal area, hatchback shapes are better then coupe shapes. i know their are easier to design and cheaper due to no doors or roof. thanks
@Moli571
@Moli571 Жыл бұрын
Seems a choice of compromise: open cockpit so less drag, more flow to the back, but less surface to guide it. Even if the former seems to me the less relevant. Viceversa for every point for the closed one
@TheMightyJoggernaut
@TheMightyJoggernaut Жыл бұрын
Vielen Dank, super cooler Content. Ich frage mich gerade, ob ich bei meinem Fahrzeug die Radhausentlüftungen öffnen soll, oder nicht. Es handelt sich um einen Radical RXC. Für wie entscheidend hältst Du die Radhausentlüftungen bei so einem Fahrzeug? Danke und viele Grüße
@BSport320
@BSport320 Жыл бұрын
Hi, vielen Dank. Das haengt davon ab wie die Entlueftung aussehen, wo sie positioniert sind und was du erreichen moechtest. Wir koennen gerne einen Beratungstermin dazu vereinbaren. Du kannst mich gern per Email kontaktieren.
@TheMightyJoggernaut
@TheMightyJoggernaut Жыл бұрын
@@BSport320 Gerne, hatte Dir direkt eine Mail geschrieben. Viele Grüße
@damncritics
@damncritics 2 жыл бұрын
Why weren't you running front diffusers? Regulations issues or something else?
@BSport320
@BSport320 2 жыл бұрын
Simply no space. The RS4 has a large engine in front of the front axle and we were running very wide tyres.
@damncritics
@damncritics 2 жыл бұрын
@@BSport320 interesting. Would there be a point where you would sacrifice front tyre size for increased downforce? Or was that simply not a worthwhile tradeoff for a car as front-heavy as the RS4?
@BSport320
@BSport320 2 жыл бұрын
As a small team we couldn’t just simply change tyre size on an all-wheel-drive car. We were pretty happy with the mechanical grip and the static downforce of the nose heavy Audi was good anyway. But for more performance at faster corners it makes sense to have them. We worked on front diffusers lateron.
@damncritics
@damncritics 2 жыл бұрын
@@BSport320 Thanks so much for taking the time to explain.
@user-ci4tt7wt1d
@user-ci4tt7wt1d 3 ай бұрын
How was the gas mileage
@MartlRS
@MartlRS 2 жыл бұрын
Turbo??? Was it not the NA V8?
@BSport320
@BSport320 2 жыл бұрын
It was the 3.0 TDI in a RS4 body. Better for endurance racing, 3x less fuel consumption, 3x less pit stops, quicker overall and much more torque for quattro.
@devandrasimanjuntak1646
@devandrasimanjuntak1646 2 жыл бұрын
@@BSport320 ah I was also wondering for a moment there 😅 How much power is it making? I’m assuming just about 350hp given the top speed of the car.
@BSport320
@BSport320 2 жыл бұрын
That’s pretty close. The mono turbo versions were around 320hp, the later bi turbo engine we used was around 400hp
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